TOP GEAR TOYOTA GT86 - What’s It Like To Drive? Goodwood Track Day

I had an opportunity last week to spend the day at Goodwood driving some Toyotas. This GT86 was the car I spent the most time in, but I also have some more videos to come from the day in other cars.
This is one of 3x GT86s that were prepared by Rogue Motorsport for Top Gear, to be their "star in a reasonably fast car".
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[@sydneybell9246]

gran turismo 3 music feeling right in this one

[@samslinger16]

As a gt86 owner it's really interesting to hear your perspective. I find the neutral balance is addictive, Increasing grip too much takes away from the fun on the road. All comes back to the fast car slow or slow car fast debate. I have found increasing camber helps it not feel like it's rolling over on itself

[@geoffygeoff9391]

With regards to the TC, I think on 86's there is a procedure known as the "pedal shuffle, or pedal dance" to fully turn it off. Some combination of pressing pedals, switching ignition positions and pressing buttons.

[@Spg-93]

People have too much power ego these days. This was enjoyable to watch as per usual.

[@daedalus_20v]

Interesting to see your impressions of a modern car around the circuit... looks quick! Makes those mad lads with the 40's, 50's, and 60's technology cars and tyres seem even more insane ripping around the circuit!

[@mikehipperson]

This is the circuit that, effectively ended Sterling Moss' serious racing career in 63. A couple of years later an up and coming saloon car driver was seriously burned when his Ford Anglia crashed at Lavant corner and also the track where Bruce McLaren was killed testing one of his Can-Am cars on the run from Lavant to Woodcote. During the recent 79 Members Meeting, one of the commentators suggested that the circuit would make a great BTCC venue, if the owner and the local council would allow it.

[@dannyDC2]

It would make a great venue for any racing, but is certainly up there on the danger list.

[@michaelhepburn3710]

I watch a bunch of other folks drive Goodwood and in comparison, the speed you carry through the corners is mad! Top stuff.

[@steveunderhill6570]

Top stuff there Dan, loving the content as usual, keep up the good work fella

[@TheCarSouls]

Enjoyed that! Both car and circuit looked like good fun.

[@benpenagonzales6014]

Love the goodwood circuit. Partly it’s one of the few I’ve driven! But nice fast flowing, especially down to the bottom and hammering back up again. No run offs basically anywhere, straight into tyres most of the lap

[@nickbards2134]

Awesome watch, pleasure to watch a great driver and shows you don’t need big power to have fun.

[@Retrobeemer]

Now then Dan! Enjoyed that, thanks. I love Goodwood and some of the best laps I ever did in my E30M3 track car were there. I loved how late you can brake for the right after the pit straight and the way the whole track flows is just epic. I did a couple of sprint events which were really well run too. Anyway, good to see a GT86 getting some love too.

[@smilepermile8165]

Hope someone will let you drive the GT86's replacement - GR86. Even most of the power-hungry Americans noticed an improvement in midrange torque with the increased displacement of 2.4 litres. Even with the bigger displacement engine and more airbags, it hasn't gained much in weight. Sucks that it will only be on sale for two years in the UK...

[@ConnorRidesDaily]

Another top quality video

[@AntonHu]

Video shows a Primacy 4 tyre. The original spec for 86s was the Primacy HP, a different kettle of fish, especially in the damp,

[@TheJLAshley]

Great vid, the track and car looked great fun

[@quicknickdriver8510]

Our Dan at Goodwood. Glad you’ve found the place, you look nice and smooth. Excellent video, thanks.

[@dodgyt25]

Good quality video Danny keep it up

[@TyredFormat]

I do still miss mine every now and then. I only did pads and tyres, and even then I was careful with my choices not to fluff up what Toyota had developed. Oh and its the ABS fuse out to kill all the driver aids.

[@arobinson3767]

Was down there for the MM79 so good to see your perspective on the track

[@SuperWesty177]

I didn't really care for these much till my mate bought a BRZ and holy shit I was wrong about it they drive so well and the gearbox is sensational to rip through the gears.

[@papakyriakouandreas]

Quality content this. Hope you are well !!!

[@tomh753]

Looks like a good day out. Really want to visit Goodwood one day. Très historique

[@otacon4065]

my mates got a brz on potenzas on 17x7.5J, recaros, TOMEI unequal length mani/decat/Nvidia exhaust and a remap making 212-220 iirc and it completely removes the flat spot it has around 4.5-5.2k (i forget where it was) i've driven and drifted it and it's amazing. with coilies/arb's it'd be a very capable car.

[@paulrooney5552]

Nice to see you down my neck of the woods Danny goodwood certainly is a phenomenal track super fast and demands full focus. The only issue is the snob factor you get. My 205 wasn’t exactly welcomed on tracks days mixing with your astons and Porches. Bar that super special place. Super driving as always.

[@abc123732]

Need a re-visit in the m3, or the dc2 when she's done. Watched the classics a few weeks back, imagine a gt40 or similar. BIG BALLS. Nice driving also, you've learnt this quick that's for sure. Lines and turn in points are sweet

[@micheltebraake7915]

Lucky you, that you can do this!

[@bandwagon240]

That haircut makes any car faster.

[@isoconfused8744]

I think this is the natural progression from the MR2.. I am saving for one. Hoping price drop when the new model is available in the used market

[@altypeRR]

I knew it. Dan you are secretly the stig!

[@misterLukeG]

sold my GT86 for 8k in 2017. It was cat C and very rough. That’s the only cheap one I’ve ever seen. Loved the drive. Engine is pants really uninspiring. it Had enough power for fun but just a very lack lustre engine. I think one with a 2 litre BEAMS 3SGE swap would be a cracking NA track car.

[@JD-eo7dr]

I found a company doing a k20 complete swap kit for these in America. Properly done too👌

[@chriscaarnold]

Took mine to Silverstone gp circuit. I payed 14k for a 2014 14k miles car mow they are going up. Great cars and im not a talented driver so looking at buying another one soon. Will take it to Fensport, uel header, fix torque dip, upgrade breaks and leave the rest stock. I loved the crappy tires and low grip. Did some miles down to modena, monaco, italy, france and route Napoleon. Great small light cars and enough power for fun on the roads

[@pjay3028]

Try this from GT 86 forum: 1) warm up the engine fully. 2) turn off the engine. 3) the side brake needs to be released. 4) press and hold the brake and start the engine. 5) while holding the brake, pull the side brake and let go of the brake. 6) press the brake 2 or more times and hold the brake. 7) while holding the brake, release and pull the side brake 2 or more times and hold the side brake. 8) while holding the side brake, press the brake 2 times. 9) TC and VSC lights should turn on. If you can't turn the TC and VSC back on by pressing the buttons, then it worked. You'll need to turn off the engine to turn TC and VSC back on

[@yapira3d]

This is bonkers 😂 why so hard to do

[@jonclark25]

Always fancied one of these for track work as seems a great base, though I can imagine forced induction would be high on the list...

[@markythegreat]

This is my local. Expensive but memorable trackdays. Trackdays are gentlemanly here, you don't get a K-Swapped EG screaming past. They run in fixed sessions like the Nurburgring GP circuit TF days so by the 3rd lap you're usually on your own once the starting pack shuffles itself into order. That crest you nearly binned it on is flat in every car in the dry, but it's with a straight steering wheel at the apex and just the let the car push wide.

[@markythegreat]

I'm amazed this car survived on stock pads though, I've destroyed a full set of road pads in three 15 minute sessions here, it's brutal on brakes with a 150+ mph to 50mph braking zone at the end of lavant.

[@oscarzt1652]

yeahhhh race track in the south

[@fairyliquid6864]

9:27 My 2005 Celica has a button to turn off TC, but there is a 'stability control' system that cannot be switched off. Can get a bit annoying when you want to have a bit of fun. Maybe they put it in for insurance reasons?

[@mrporsche4236]

Get the dynamic performance pack. It comes with 4 pot brembo brakes and better handling suspension

[@XunoHa]

yeeaaa buiiii

[@MikeSmith-rd9fi]

It might be like some cars where the only way to remove TC completely is to remove a fuse.

[@Martinnc30]

VSC? other toyota's some you cant turn off, my is300, had to cut the ground to the steering sensor to trick it,

[@AndyQuinton]

Big up Subaru for that lovely gearbox.

[@TABRO284]

The new 2.4 litre GR86 is for sale tomorrow in the uk. Do you fancy getting one?

[@Sideburns892]

I do like these cars, and this video is a great demonstration of what they are capable of, but as you say they have kept their value and also the engines seem liable to break from my experience of track days.

[@runrabbitrunracing]

Now then!

[@chrisandwillhobbies]

prefer the liana honestly mate, do one of those next

[@therickman1990]

Michelin Primacy's are a good tire, used to have them all round on my car untill the shop thought they were a bit expensive and recommended Vredestein Sporttracs, never again! I'm doing my best to destroy the Vredesteins asap and switch back to Primacy's. Not for track I reckon though, I did my very first lap around the Nurburgring on Primacy's, took it really easy but the tires were overheating halfway through the second lap

[@dannyDC2]

I’m on those Vredesteins on my E61, they seem good for me

[@therickman1990]

@@dannyDC2 Mine have no grip when there's 2 drops of rain on the road, the Primacy never did that. French cars belong on Michelins I guess lol, they can sense it

[@dannyDC2]

@@therickman1990 maybe, I have driven mine through all seasons and never thought they were lacking

[@thegoat5009]

Now then, Danny

[@BlackLines]

Hopefully the prices on these will take a tumble because the GR86 comes out today in the UK 👌

[@michaelgoodwin593]

Did you get a go in the new GR86 by any chance?

[@matthewwilson9441]

Less than ideal 😂😂 you been watching Joe delaney?

[@kieranbonnie7729]

Not sure if you see it as a fun day or an achievement but I’d defo call this an achievement. I bet if you’d told yourself back when you had the k swapped mr2 that you’d have a standard engine mr2 in the future and end up giving passenger laps in the top gear car you’d have probably thought you were talking rubbish. Good video as always 👍🏻 Do you think there is such thing as a “cheap to run” rwd track car these days, other than maybe the mr2?

[@danielmartin6492]

MX5 NC

[@kieranbonnie7729]

@@danielmartin6492 didn’t realise they could be had for as cheap as they are 👍🏻

[@danielmartin6492]

Super underrated car! I've got a 2.5 swapped one with cams from America. Chassis is much better than earlier mx5.

[@rhysrhysrhys]

Still waiting for these things to get cheap. Great review and driving, as always!

[@BlackLines]

they will now, GR86 releases today so the GT86 will plummet in value.

[@filterstyle]

You can wait a long time…. This car will never go very cheap, because if you want one you have it right know and dont sell it again…

[@driftmonkey3646]

The passenger, one of the driftworks owners?

[@seany8787]

I have a GT86. I quite like it as you do. Standard pads are indeed pretty poo. My ebay Brembo specials smoke on the road tbf, no way would I track them. I have Yoko Advans, they’re ok but tbh prefer when it had Potenzas with 2mm tread left. Coming from an EP3 the engine is the biggest let down. Its ‘OK’ but other than a low centre of gravity and the worlds easiest alternator change theres not much character to it. One thing I have been told repeatedly is if you are tracking a GT86 you absolutely need an oil cooler otherwise engine goes knock knock a lot sooner than you think. I think the car would be much improved not with more power but some shorter gear ratios. Engine has asymmetrical conrods (yes really) so your never going to get Rb20 levels of boost because the rods will fold like my nan being chinned by Tyson. As others have said you need to do the pedal dance to fully turn everything off, think it even turns ABS off as well. For the road, pressing and holding the button is fine. Theres a couple of modes in between fully on or everything ‘off’ but the electric nannies are still wayyyy to aggressive. I enjoyed this video, would love to see more 86 content if you ever get chance again

[@ThEtEcHnOsAm]

Always wanted a GT86, this doesn't help the wants. I should really be saving money for a Mini Cup car for next year.

[@YTSsport]

You can't turn it fully off via that button. You need to do the cheat code with the pedals to turn everything fully off.

[@dannyDC2]

What stays on?

[@YTSsport]

@@dannyDC2 both TC and VSC are still on. Just they are down to like 10%. Doing the pedal cheat code aka pedal dance turns every off bar ABS. That's what I remember people talking about.

[@dannyDC2]

@@YTSsport that's crazy. I don't get why they would still leave it on a bit

[@YTSsport]

@@dannyDC2 because some people have more money than talent. With how easy it is to go sideways on standard tyres, you're average hero would end up in a tree.

[@ixxifan]

Now then Danny, If you had to choose...GT86 or your E46?

[@dannyDC2]

no competition there

[@justsean6199]

Swicked

[@Booka3141]

I'm hoping the GR86 will knock these down in price a bit, would make a nice cheap to run if not all that cheap to buy, track car.