Top LPVOs of 2024

[@BrassFacts]

I've gotten 20+ questions all to the effect of: Why no Razor 1-6x SFP HD. It's a good scope, trust me, I had one for 3 years. But on a recommend list, it's not really a stand out scope as it once was. It's stand out feature (bezeless amazing 1x) is handled by the PLX-C for 200-300 bucks more, while being a fully fledged out FFP design. If you need red dot bright, the PLX-C nova has that handled while also weighing 17oz not 23oz while being 1-8x. If you want to not spend 1500/don't like the PLX-C the delta Stryker 1-6x is almost the same scope as the razor, while costing 850, and weighing 6oz less. The 1-8x Vudu is also a very similar design for less money, with a 1-8x. I also think wire frame style reticles leave a lot to be desired in the LPVO category because they are very thick, obscure detail on small targets at range, which is why I prefer the Credo 1-6x SFP over all of these. I get why people like red dot bright, it's why I have a elcan. But with a LPVO, I personally don't care that much for red dot bright when it comes with the downsides that it does (shit battery, limited reticle).

[@BrassFacts]

​@@firstbeforelast433 the nova HAS TO BE SFP. Fiber bright free standing reticles cannot be FFP. The FFP rds bright scopes like the razor/atacr etc are all going to add about 500 bucks to the manufacturing cost. So the PLXC Nova FFP would just be atacr price at that point.

[@shaolinwarriormark]

​@@BrassFacts ​​ Bought the athlon 2-12mil, and oh boy, the review is 100% spot on!!!!! For the quality, value, ranges its capable of, and the eyebox, which im slapping myself across the face on the "how did they accomplish this" I humbly thank you! On my 308 build, im going to get the ares 3-18 with ultra soec glass! That scope is another grand slam!!! Thank you! Sincerely, Mark Golden!

[@Captain-Kawa]

Hey nice video ! If I can ask based on your experience, I was ready to buy a new scope and I arrived to the conclusion that an lpvo or mpvo is the way to go for me. I have a ar, 20 inch barrel, 556 with M855 most of the time and a rec-10 at some occasions. The scope is for the AR and it is mostly for recon max 700m and except general shooting that happened to go above, I used for precise shots at max 300. But, I still need it for less than 50 meters (CQB). The recon is very important to me and I really to be able to see the difference of a guy holding a grenade, rock, Molotov, or just a soda. But the fact that I still need for close combat made my choice a bit hard even if I am ready to pay the price.

[@skoolynugenator1802]

@@firstbeforelast433I prefer SFP

[@mattogle2582]

Is the new nova plx1/8/ compact a good deal at 1499 and the same as the bigger version,and is it in your opinion better than vortex gen 11 1/6/24 ,that’s a lot money for a optic,and I have no clue if it’s better glass and quality than the vortex for same price

[@BrassFacts]

Cringe, brass facts made a top 3 video.

[@CTM54539]

It's so over

[@robertdole5391]

Top 5 videos are better.

[@antiluckermd1956]

​@@robertdole5391 about 2 better

[@Error_404_Account_Deleted]

A guy sent you an email a month ago who could have REALLY helped you with the subject matter in this video 😂

[@BrassFacts]

@@Error_404_Account_Deleted they did?

[@evanacey1414]

1). Gen 2 March 1-10 shorty w/ dual focal plane reticle & manual parallax adjustment. 2). PA PLXc 1-8 FFP 3). Vortex Razor Gen 2E 1-6 SFP VMR-2

[@die-lon_X5]

Eye box on the March terrible or no?

[@7ElevenTruther]

​@@die-lon_X5I imagine anything that smol had to have a crappy eyebox as a trade-off.

[@HammerheadClassCruiser]

I really want to get the March 1-8 with the fmc-2 reticle

[@luckygunnerx30]

@@7ElevenTrutherits actually really nice

[@luckygunnerx30]

@@die-lon_X5not at all its pretty good

[@Bubblemech]

I am unbelievably jealous of the area you get to run and gun. Greatest open area facility ever.

[@_Art.Vandelay]

We demand an industry awards show hosted by you, Hop and Luke at the end of the year called “the Novas”

[@BrassFacts]

amazing.

[@borkwoof696]

I think C_Does already does that

[@hopewilliams6705]

​@@BrassFacts has anyone tried the Sig Msr FFP 1-6 skew that just showed up?

[@flopus7]

I'd support this idea as long as the categories were for worst qc or worst cs or most obvious shilling

[@JacobBrown-sx7qp]

@@BrassFactsis this happening, please for all that is holy, host “The Nova’s”

[@BigRed383]

TIME TO CONSOOM!!!!

[@MattWaller04]

*CONSOOOOOMER*

[@99cobra2881]

Guilty of this but man eventually you hit the Ive got enough 💩 level

[@stookypotato]

I LOVE PRODUCTS!!!!

[@investigativeoutcomes9343]

youtube is gay.

[@TheDankCat127]

**points in wojak**

[@battlestartoaster]

I got a Sig MSR 1-6 and didn't care for it due to weight and poor 6x performance. Your review of the PA 1-6 Nova convinced me to buy one and I've been delighted ever since, it's a perfect optic for me because 1x is red dot bright, 6x is alright and it feels lighter. Thanks for making honest reviews, it really helps.

[@MrGible]

Thank you BrassFacts for giving us free content over the years, have a great rest of your day!

[@CSMaaaann]

I’m imagining the neighbors looking out the window while you’re zooming in on passing cars. 😂😂😂

[@CiviTac]

I one watched a guy DNF a night shooting stage in a 3 gun match because the strike eagle glass couldn’t get enough light collection. I ran a pst gen2 and had no issues hitting at 400 yards in the dark. He was a good shooter too. Sad day it ruined his whole match

[@BrassFacts]

very common for lower end LPVOs to just complete implode on performance at the lower price brackets in low light.

[@CiviTac]

@@BrassFacts yes I learned that day. Other guy had a rough night and wasted his time at the match out until 3am getting his ass whooped. Just couldn’t see

[@Kryogenikz15]

Thanks to your videos and a friend of mine, I now have two Credos: the 1-6 HX with the fiber dot, and the 1-8 FFP. For the price, they're insane. Great glass, great build quality.

[@dougannash6985]

Delta Stryker 1-6x. Nuclear bright, fantastic glass, made at the LOW factory in Japan (along with higher end Vortex/Trijicon stuff). 17.xx oz. I've loved mine; best kept secret in the world of AR optics. Reticle is simple but more than usable through the entire range of the 5.56 round.

[@JTTTTT850]

1-6 isnt worth using when 5X prisms exist

[@nf1]

​@@JTTTTT850Does a 5x prism have a 1x? No? Didn't think so. My primary arms 5x prism almost never gets used because the FOV is so shit

[@XxMrSandmanxX]

Agreed, absolutely love my Delta Stryker 1-6x. Rivals my buddy's Nightforce 1-8x in terms of glass quality and brightness and has a better 1x IMO.

[@RunningWithSauce]

I have a Vortex Spitfire HD Gen 2 5x prism with a red dot up top. It's great and way better than any LPVO. I also have an ACOG with an RMR piggyback, and I think that's a better solution than an LPVO.

[@investigativeoutcomes9343]

5X prisms do not have 1X capability @@JTTTTT850 . 🤦‍♂

[@jessel3621]

The Vortex Viper 1x6 SFP regularly goes on sale for around $500. Still the best glass. Worth the extra $100 over the Nova.

[@wardwilson5884]

Viper owner, can confirm. However, if it ever breaks or I could go back in time I would buy the delta Stryker. The viper is a hefty boi

[@dasc507]

I love the viper, but I got a Nova for $250 and with throw lever and being 5-6 ounces lighter. At that point I couldn’t honestly say the Viper is twice as good. But… to each their own. Cheers!

[@willl7780]

the tract lpvo looks sweet...i have a LR tract and the glass is super nice

[@alejandroflores-samaniego9320]

got two vortex viper 2, and can’t complain they have very nice glass. one on 13.9 and 14.5 comp rifles. and also have 1x6 and 1x8 strike eagle. i can’t complain they get the job done.

[@J.Panxer]

Over and done with lpvo's. Too many points of failure. I'm a swampfox guy. Their 5x is heavy and big, but you're not going to get a better prism for an AK side rail for the money. Their 1x prism for a krink or a pdw is great too.

[@Skrubenz]

I bought a Delta Stryker 1-6 like 4 days ago, that better be on the list, justify my purchase Mr. Facts

[@JackManiacky]

Great scope. You are worthy

[@gnarl12]

Wooo I'll be getting one in a few weeks

[@TerminalM193]

You now literally own the best sfp LPVO under $1k. The Delta Stryker 1-6x is like a vortex pst Gen 2 on steroids. Better glass, better 1x, better turrets, better everything honestly. If I didn't already own the PA PLxC ffp yards and wanted specifically a daylight bright LPVO I would possibly get the Stryker over the new plxc nova. Personally I'll never need that kind of LPVO since I still believe the steiner p4xi does that the best by a LONGSHOT. Anyways, great purchase!

[@coreyp9211]

I picked up one of the discontinued Trijicon Credo HX 1-4x for $500 when they were being cleared out and absolutely love it. All the same praise as the 1-6x model applies its just limited to 4x. Highly recommended if you can find one on clearance.

[@PetuniaOnDaBeat]

You put me onto Venture Surplus a year ago and I swear my wobbie poncho liner turned into the daily comforter lol

[@PetuniaOnDaBeat]

The cheapo ifak insert is the best organizer/GP insert.

[@wipplewopple1876]

I personally found the Arken 1-8 FFP KL-BOX a pretty good budget LPVO. I was personally looking for something with a big ring in the reticle, and had heard that the EoTech VUDU wasn't bright enough in daylight. It's at the least good for what you're buying.

[@ghostpunkkilla]

Mocking the shift knob in the Ford. I'm about it.

[@M2m1x]

Dodge Ram.

[@caseysmith8831]

Best nova footage ever. My dog and I watch your reviews together

[@atranimecs]

commenting and liking for the bumps - LPVOs are definitely starting to get more affordable for quality. if the PA 1-8 PLX C had a Gen 2 upgrade to give it red dot bright illum, it'd be enough for me to bum on it noodles for weeks to purchase one.

[@CaffeineThrottle]

Good general info, saved me from researching a bunch of deadends. Subscribed after viewing.👋👍

[@ExplorinInTheWoods]

I’ve been telling people for years about the gospel of the credo 1-6 SFP, it’s pretty bright for a massive reticle

[@danielsummey4144]

I’m super glad you made this. I’m literally shopping for my first LPVO and I want to buy something cheap just to decide if I like them in general. I was sitting here watching your previous Sig Tango MSR video and you were a little ambiguous on it so great. Gonna get one now.

[@RavenTwoActual]

The Monstrum Banshee is pretty close to the MSR, and it costs about $300 less.

[@rondobrondo]

you are making a mistake. You should have gotten the Primary Arms SLx NOVA if you are wanting to get a scope with mount for $300. The MSR is not good

[@Samuel_REDACTED]

I personally run a Primary Arms GLx 1-6 FFP that I got on sale from $700 to $400 and I'm loving it

[@skoolynugenator1802]

Trijicon Credo HX 1-6 SFP is the best bang for your buck. I got one for under 800 last year and it absolutely has a red dot bright reticle. I also just picked up the Razor Gen 2 because I’ve always wanted one. Currently 1k on Focus Camera. Even better glass than the already amazing Credo and that dot will burn your eyes out at high setting. Its only Achilles heel is the weight. I definitely can’t wait for the PLX-C SFP to come out.

[@billbee235]

I’ve been rocking a the OG PLX 1-8x Griffin MIL. Ran it out to 750yds with my reloads no problem. Owned the Gen 3 razor for a while and sold it, just wasn’t happy with it. Something felt weird. That said I’m a Vortex fan, so that was a tough choice

[@Hankhillismrbig]

I was a prism guy until I got my mitts onto one of those 1-6 Credos. I’m actually considering getting a 2nd for my AUG rather than an ACOG like I had originally planned.

[@whatiwant8898]

I personally would put the Swampfox Arrowhead and Tomohawk II in as honorable mentions. Mid $400 without their Military/First Responder discounts and mid $300 with. Glass is suprisingly good for the price, illumination is good to red dot bright, and lots of reticle choices. The only downside is a bit of a tighter eyebox. I could be biased though since they're local to me haha. Great list nonetheless

[@theweaponsmerchant5140]

Trijicon accupoint is the best lpvo on the market. Amazing glass quality, multiple reticles to choose from, light weight and built like tank.

[@KindaUpsetLlama]

I've been looking for this exact video and had to scroll way too long to find it lol. Hope the algorithm blesses you.

[@Hades16899]

I got a Razor 1-10 that I love, never lose the red dot while moving and clear as hell at 10x.

[@snakebite210]

Brassfacts Friday 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@frankholub4673]

The Credo 1-6 gang rises, that segmented BDC is juicy. Always appreciate you and Hop for not just looking for or promoting "best in slot" gear in a vacuum but rather focusing on price to performance ratio for the everyman based on long time usage and within the context of use case and tradeoffs. Keep doing you!

[@swedishcharm]

I'm happy you at least mentioned athlon as an optic, I personally have been super happy with mine, but I don't think enough people put a correct demonstration or capability usage of them as a whole.

[@GuacIsExtra99]

Which Athlon do you have their 1-10 ffp looks good but I don’t know enough about them

[@swedishcharm]

@@GuacIsExtra99 im currently running their Ares ETR UHD 1-10x24mm ATMR3 Rifle Scope 212104. It is wildly bright in daylight with the illumination, glass seems really good for the price.

[@swedishcharm]

@@GuacIsExtra99 which js their 1-10ffp in a 34mm tube. Its got a rather small eyebox and can get a lil funky if you punch it in to 10x but are not in the correct apot

[@GuacIsExtra99]

@@swedishcharm thanks for the rundown

[@swedishcharm]

@@GuacIsExtra99 I really would like to see somebody actually do a really good in-depth on it, cuz it does have a lot of good features but there are some stuff that I still think are missing but for if you pick it up on sale for about $750 to $900 it's fantastic

[@SquallWulfhart]

I narrowed my choices down to the plxc and nx8 and preferred the nx8 feature set, so i got it and enjoyed it so much that I bought the atacr 1-8 to replace it. This is for a 308 rifle so I like the bigger eyebox and slightly better clearity. It's my first venture to scopes beyond $1000 and i can say that it makes a big difference when actually trying to spot things in the wilderness. $1500 is probably the sweet spot right now though. I think I'd take the nx8 over atacr for a 5.56 gun.

[@dionysis84]

Plx>NX8. Atacr for sure but the Nx8 misses out on everything aside from durability vs the plx

[@SquallWulfhart]

@@dionysis84 Nx8 is daylight bright and I prefer the mil reticle. I don't know for sure but I would guess it gets the nod on glass and durability.

[@TerminalM193]

I've played the LPVO game for too many years now.... Cheap all the way to 3k+. With that I still keep coming back to the steiner p4xi. Beautiful 1x and wonderful 4x both with massive fov.

[@chizorama]

I missed the boat on the Steiner when they were cheap, but I keep on going back to my Vortex Viper Gen1 1-4 because of the glass & FOV, & it's light. 1-8's don't really feel like twice the magnification, & I appreciate the wider FOV of a 1-4 & you can still stretch out a 5.56 to it's effective range.

[@flopus7]

I'm an acog simp and only aimpoint can get me to even be momentarily distracted from it.

[@dionysis84]

Why go with a 4x lpvo over an acog?

[@chizorama]

@@dionysis84 $900 dollar difference. Not that I'm against an ACOG, but I'd like to try one out before I lay my money down on one.

[@TerminalM193]

@@dionysis84 I think the answers obvious.... The p4xi does such a damn good job from 1-4x that it eliminates the need for any kind of micro rds having to piggyback or offset. The 4x on the steiner is so clean that it can easily compete with any budget 6x and even some middle of the road 6x LPVO's. When I do any kind of competition I've always scored better with the p4xi when directly compared to my delta Stryker and pst..... But, I'm also one of the very few that think the PA plx compact is extremely overrated. Had suboptimal 1x and a mediocre at best 8x where I ended up using the 6x as high end instead of 8 which made the reticle harder to use. Ended up selling mine.

[@shockwave6213]

My pick for best value for money budget LPVO/MPVO of the poverty budget: Monstrum Banshee 2-10x30. I put it on my PTR-91 and it has survived 1,000 rounds of 308 so far (including half of that on a SCAR 17. It costs $150 and comes WITH a mount. I already understand that LPVOs aren't a true 1x, so I chose the 2-10x30 (with BDC-B1 reticle. The BDC reticle is perfect for my 20 inch AR and 308 from an 18 barrel so I bought 2) because it has a larger objective lense for that light and FOV advantage

[@cazorp]

No test of European LPVOs? Swarovski Z6/Z8i, Kahles k16i/k18i and the unicorns PMII's from Schmidt & Bender?

[@Instananners]

Really love my Steiner T6Xi 1-6. Really great glass, 1x is great, locking/capped turrets, only meh is the reticle & brightness. Kinda funky in terms of usefulness, but its easy/good to use as a general "aiming" reticle, and brightness could go one or two "clicks" more. $1700 price point for a new one.

[@Zahnaxx]

Great video as always Brass Facts. Truly can't stand to watch other gun youtubers. You consistently knock it out of the park with the cinematography, background music, and narration.

[@wyattbottorff2473]

I'm glad I went for the Sig on my new PSA PA10. Disappointed that the higher magnification versions won't be as worthy as this 1-6, but thankfully your video has helped me find some better choices!

[@lasvegashelipilot]

Selling my PA PLXc 1-8 and keeping my Eotech Vudu 1-10. But only because top end performance is more important to me than the 1x (I shoot more DMR-style matches than run-and-gun). If you're primarily staying at 1x, the PLXc is an incredible scope for the money.

[@depthcharge126]

No mention of the venerable razor hd gen 2? I know it’s chunky but you can get it sub $1k on eurooptic. The -E model can be had for $1100 ish

[@BrassFacts]

the non E weighs a lot. And there's a lot of good alternatives. And honestly now a days. for 1200 you can get a lot of really nice LPVOs with real reticles. It'll be a good comp optic

[@Jake-oz8ln]

How do you get the E version Sub 1k?

[@brad_1388_]

​@@BrassFacts dude its 4-5 ounces heavier than all the other lpvos. if you picked up two different rifles blindfolded, one with a razor and one with a (insert lpvo) mounted, you would never be able to tell the difference. the razor reticles are perfectly suited to use on a carbine; aimpoint tier ilumination, thin subtensions, simple, and has a basic ranging feature. you don't need all sorts of windholds, huge ranging stadia, and a bunch of other crap on a rifle thats not going to be used from a tripod, in a hide. thats exactlythe kind of stuff that seems great on the range, but in the field it'll do nothing but block your field of view. most importantly it's a proven, reliable optic thats been shown to live through all sorts of abuse for almost a decade now.

[@BrassFacts]

@@brad_1388_ you can tell the difference. Also more importantly there's just better reticle wise. If that's what floats your boat. By all means. It's just not what I look for. And I say that as a razor owner of 4 years.

[@ethanmitchell3439]

It’s a good scope, I have the g2-e, it would be an amazing option if it had a few more features added to the reticle. But I think it’s a fiber based reticle like the PA Nova, so that isn’t possible. I may sell it because I want a plx-c to put on an accurized build.

[@bradleydillard8010]

I still love my razor 1-6. I know it’s dated by today’s standards but damn it’s a solid piece of glass.

[@BrassFacts]

it's totally solid, and a great scope still

[@lukaskerjanc]

Are you talking about the razor gen 2? Is it worth 1.5k?

[@wolfnthemist]

@@lukaskerjanc if you want a red dot bright lpvo and a reliable warranty yes. However, you can very easily find lightly used second hand units for WAY below that 1500 and go with the E model. Worth the weight savings and mag ring tension adjustment vs the non E

[@sub-par-shooter]

​@wolfnthemist yep, got a second hand Gen 2 E with a scalarworks mount for 1,250

[@dsxz]

@@lukaskerjanc 1350 pretty regularly, 999 if u wait and know where to look

[@vik12D]

Been looking at possibly changing out the ACOG/RMR for an LPVO. Thanks for the heads up.

[@michaelshanahan4965]

Primary Arms SLx 1-8x24 SFP Rifle Scope - Illuminated Reticle ACSS. Works great.

[@slamfire5382]

Had the ATACR, it was ok. Acceptable glass but FOV was lacking. Giant optic body. Reticle, illumination, and eyebox are exceptional.

[@VoFALT]

Vortex Venom 1-6. Got it based on Focus Tripp's and C_Does's videos. Haven't shot with it yet, but it looks promising. This time I did not cheap out for the mount. I originally got a PA SLx Nova and was hoodwinked by the red dot bright illumination and the 1x. Then when I actually went out to zero the damn thing I quickly realized I absolutely hate that reticle. Needless to say I'm never getting a crosshaired scope ever again if I can help it.

[@_Art.Vandelay]

(Last one to pump the algorithm) Hot take: if you are looking for an LPVO less than $1000 but more than $500, you are better served by a used ACOG TA01 and a cheap holosun piggyback. Way better glass, a real 1x and 90% of the time you aren’t using the magnifications between 1-max and you probably don’t even need that top end if you can’t justify the spend for something like PLXc. I said what I said.

[@alexispadilla2606]

Thats straight up not true

[@evey0259]

The existence of the Delta Stryker, Credo, Razor, and Viper tell me that you are flatly wrong.

[@heyhayhay247]

I wouldn't flat out say "better served", but I would call it a solid alternative worth considering.

[@collinb.8542]

Having been training with an lvpo for about 3 months now I wish I would have done this instead.

[@MDZac2024]

Have a PLXc 1-8x on my Q Sugar Weasel. Incredible optic for the money. I cannot believe how good performance and build quality are for money. Run a Delta Point Pro 45° offset and it’s an incredibly versatile setup.

[@ryanweiss1721]

Just got a PLXc in. Gonna mount it on a 14.5 build. Great glass

[@absolutegunrights3079]

The PLXC needs the better GLX reticle. If you're shooting on the run, the combination of outer posts and 120 moa circle gives a big advantage. The PLXc Horseshoe is a little too small to be used without illumination. The 1-10 GLX is very usable in CQB without illumination. For distance shooting, these are the absolute best reticles. If I'm putting a pound and a half on top of the gun, I want a lot of information.

[@BrassFacts]

yep, I like the new GLx reticle more.

[@Myrcene]

Ooo, Flatline Fiber Co sling. My personal favorite.

[@MrKingArthurhk]

I ended up with the Vortex Gen 3 1-10 FFP. Why? It was used and came used with a mount and a lifetime warranty. Also, I put it on a Cobalt Kinetic 6.5 Grendel SPR.

[@TheCamaro5]

Arken EP8 8 power 34 mm tube FFP Japanees glass with mount under 400 or used to before they go up.

[@Apalm12]

The vortex razor 1-6 is the best scope for under 1500

[@MT_Pant_Suit]

+1

[@jayoharrow9155]

Totally agree

[@TheRedmercy]

I use a 1-6 Swampfox Arrowhead with an illuminated reticle for duty.. works and very functional for my purposes

[@ultima8250]

I can get a new Slx Nova for $290 and a new Viper PST for $450. I cannot for the life of me decide if the viper is really worth the extra $150+ over the nova, especially with the pst not having a throw lever so needing an extra $50+ for a throw lever on top of that. Decisions...

[@BrassFacts]

how much do you care about 6x glass quality, and the 1x and 6x optimal focal range matching? How much do you care about weight The nova is lighter with worse glass.

[@ultima8250]

I plan to have an offset red dot anyway so I probably would just keep the LPVO at 6x at all times regardless. So I guess it's really just down to glass quality. I guess since I won't really use the 1x all that much and adding more weight with the offset dot definitely makes the lighter Nova more enticing.

[@FraterMikhail]

Well, vortex replaced a whole optic that was didnt work right with their warranty, fwitw. holosun wont, idk about PA

[@TheGrimiest]

@@ultima8250maybe I’m the drooling moron here, but why would you go with the nova if you’re running an offset dot and not planning to use the 1x at all? Why even get an lpvo over another medium range? The nova is a great value mainly because of the 1x and brightness of the reticle imo so you’re kind of just taking the worst parts about the nova and only utilizing that it would seem all for a little bit of weight savings? Edited: Why not just get a primary arms 5x prism since you’re wanting to keep the lpvo on 6x? This would also shave down a lot of weight and free up clutter on the rail. Delta34 made a new actually good top dot mount for it now to fix the main gripe I had with it.

[@magdumpdaddy]

You can find the SLX Nova 1-6 for about $259 if you do some research :)

[@TwillyZXY]

Still rocking a P4Xi, glass is just too good. Got it used for a steal with a mount. 4x cant compete with the 6x scopes anymore though. Everyone seems to want 6x minimum or no deal.

[@mtnbound2764]

i would be happy with a 1-4x lpvo if someone could actually make a compact and lightweight one that doesnt compromise on tube size.

[@kurtismeinhardt68]

Still got mine too, on a 11.5

[@TheDraeg]

@@mtnbound2764 Trijicon TR24 is a great pick

[@Impaletheadl]

Glad to see the scope I got made the list. The only negative is the weight.

[@ConventionRejected]

You really gotta get your hands on a March 1.5-15 DFP, it is a kick ass scope. I've been using mine in all sorts of matches (proof on channel) and in my opinion it is the ultimate "Do All" rifle optic, given certain POU constraints(such as opting to only use 1 optic and not running an offset/piggyback dot). The Dual Focal Plane reticle really does give you the best of both FFP and SFP, at the cost of, well, cost.

[@Jay9TV]

I love my march 1-10 shorty. Not enough people know about them, and I prefer it over the similar priced options from nightforce and vortex.

[@ConventionRejected]

@@Jay9TV March is criminally unknown

[@HedgeMaster26]

@@ConventionRejected It's because they charge left nut prices. Not saying it's not worth it just they are expensive.

[@ConventionRejected]

@@HedgeMaster26 They aren't any more expensive than any of the other high end scopes like NF, Vortex's Razor line, Kahles, Leupold Mk5HD, etc.

[@PrimaryArmsOptics]

Awesome review and as always great content!

[@deltaraider87]

Perfect timing... Just got a BCM 16' yesterday and I just so happen to need an optic

[@TerminalM193]

Steiner p4xi

[@BrassFacts]

dont buy a p4xi for current prices.

[@TerminalM193]

@@BrassFacts just got a brand new one for 600 even.

[@haraldweiss8487]

I use a Schmidt&Bender 1-8 dual focal plane reticle in FFP and red dot in SFP. The scopes in the video are mostly made by light optical works somewhere in asia.

[@ryankennedy3199]

have you looked at the Arken LPVO or is it just based off one of the optics mentioned in the video?

[@goawaybaizuo]

I really like the vector continental 1-6x24i fiber scope I picked up on BF sale for 350 much more than the SLX. I run a credo hx 1-6 and plxc on my main setups. I've been looking more at 2-10x scopes with a piggyback dot.

[@alouiciousjackson5812]

I got the PLx-C in yards and it's good, although I'd probably get the meter version in the future. The picture sort of loses it on 7 - 8x though. I wish now that I'd spent the extra $500 and got a March compact since it has AO. That would be a gamechanger on an LPVO.

[@FreshwaterSailor06]

Primary Arm PLXc 1-8x SFP Nova. Thoughts on SFP above 1-6x?

[@SNW_36]

first one I ever bought was a PST II 1-6. Figured out I was going to RAPIDLY outgrow it. still a good optic

[@Chonkasaurus]

I've been using the Razor Gen 2e 1-6 for a few years, and thought the PLXC would be a good upgrade. I bought one and took it on one range trip and it got condesation internally and now I see a large dried waterspot when it's illuminated. The mount was torqued correctly so I'm not sure how it happened. It's covered by warranty, but its pretty discouraging and don't really trust it for durability now. Because of this my Razor Gen 2e 1-6 is still my favorite.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

I’m very happy with my Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24. I live in the woods so a 100 yard shot is about the max and accuracy is great.

[@rawmilkmike]

3:50 What do you have it mounted on. It looks like a rifle. I'm assuming you wouldn't be waving a rifle around on you balcony.

[@libertyenjoyer2247]

It's just an upper receiver

[@TheMsdos25]

Vector Optics' Continental line runs about 350-400 with German Glass (in a Chinese tube). Looks like a Viper PST killer for a quarter pound lighter...if you trust the brand. Edit: forgot to mention they offer bright fiber optic reticles too.

[@broadhead_rc5808]

Where would the PLXc Nova fall here, in your eyes? Or is it something you're planning a review on? I have yet to find any in depth reviews on it yet, which is surprising, considering the hype it had, pre-release. Thanks!

[@john-draftanimal]

I still love my PA 1x6. I can shoot and hit within my house size and I can hit a man sized target at 300 yards. Good luck saying they suck. BTW I miss those dry mountains by the lake. Hills have eyes scary but fun to hike. Nice to see snow on the Wasatch too.

[@bernardbarr2354]

Good format and content. Good job. Thank you.

[@narutobroken]

No razor 1-6 gen 2 E?

[@DR.skullworks]

Love your vids! Which of these would you per say trust 100% with your life in a SHTF situation

[@citizeninfantry]

I just purchased a Tango 6T SFP with FL6 reticle for ~1200. Trying to see what performance I can push through my 14.5

[@victorsaenz9452]

I have a Sig tango MSR, the lower tier one, I bought it as my first one without any real experience with LPVOs I tried out someone’s vortex and honestly I liked it more. I’m still happy with the sig tho

[@_banana__6792]

the gen 2e razor 1-6 has been my favorite scope ive ever used, best 1x ive seen on an lpvo

[@BrassFacts]

try the plx-c very similar while offering ffp

[@_banana__6792]

@@BrassFacts was actually just looking at grabbing one, pretty cheap, seems like a really small bezel, don't care too much on ffp for smaller scopes but I'll give it a look

[@nathanaelberkopec6699]

3:50 good this no one saw you pointing that thing around lol

[@R_K_S2401]

Does anyone know if the primary Arms 1 to 6x Nova scope comes with throw lever? When I'm looking at it, it has an option to buy it with a throw lever, but on the pictures on primary arms website, it shows it with a throw lever already on it. I don't want to have to buy two and then return one.

[@lewisgarland4128]

run the swamp fox Arrowhead LVPO 1-10 and love it on my Aero Precision

[@coleross937]

Been looking at the credo sfp but I contacted sig today and they can sell me a blemished tango6t sfp for 799. Looking on opinions on which is the better choice

[@ferrumchnop6617]

Picked up a credo 1-6 last week $940. Glad we agree.

[@CalebGoldsberry]

Wish you could have gotten your hands on a 1-10 Credo FFP. Red dot bright, awesome Trijicon glass, 1x is much cleaner than the 1-8. Sold my 1-8's and have 3 of the 1-10's now. Couldn't be happier.

[@jtcustomknives]

I LOVE trijicon glass. I have a 2.5-10x56 accupoint and it’s ungodly clear.

[@JBsX39]

I have a basic primary arms slx 1-6 sfp with the basic acss. Sitting in a larue mount. And I have never seen a “quality” lpvo because I am a poor. But I am satisfied with my basic lpvo. It does what I need it to do. Hold zero. And adds magnification.

[@dsxz]

Idk if i had really bad luck with the slx but I returned one and saw one at a gun show with the same issue. If you're not perfectly centered the image gets blurry as fuck, like really bad... Never seen that in any other lpvo

[@dannbrauckmann1545]

I'll stick with my Accupoint SR25, for now. Obviously, it's missing some fancy reticle stuff, but damn, that glass, that 1x, that beautiful, simple (some would say too simple) red triangle. At $650 shipped (like new), I couldn't go wrong.

[@kidkolb]

i got the 1-8 FFP strike eagle off of the PX website for $470 which in my opinion was a good deal. love the optic for the price

[@efrajimgrunzweig7890]

I know it costs a shitload, but try a S&B 1-8 Short-Dot Dual CC once! really fucking expensive, but worth every piece of money if you can afford it.

[@touge242]

Gotta mention that guitar background is on point for all the desert footage

[@Jiggaboots420]

For me, it's the Nightforce Brand ATACR 1-8x24

[@linkchen8245]

Great, plxc can be rds bright but it will add 500usd to keep it as FFP. can you move the markings from botton left to top left or top right? it is blocked by the play bars.

[@2bNIKEt1]

I just recently bought my first LPVO. Its a SP 1-6x Aurora that was on sale for 200. My mount was more than the scope. (Bobro 1.93) I wouldve preferred the new Nova...I wasnt a fan going into this. I really wish the Prismatic market was larger. I just prefer that with a top dot over an LPVO

[@MavHunter20XX]

Unfortunately, SWFA no longer provides 1-6 FFP optics. I happen to have one. Not sure why they don't offer them anymore.

[@SuperSnallygaster]

@8:05 what gloves are these? They look lovely!

[@DillianDoe1084]

what poncho do i keep seeing you guys wearing in many of your videos?

[@BrassFacts]

alpaca mail.