Top of Class, Monster SCM L'invincible FS 7 Jointer/Planer! 20.5" width, 15hp & 5 sec change over!

This is my Un-Paid, Un -Sponsored review of the SCM L'invincible FS 7 after 4 months of ownership.
Late 2022 build.
2350 pound beast!
This is a 15hp three phase model with:
- The xylent cutter block
- overturn fence for small material jointing
- Segmented infeed roller
My "Little" aircraft carrier!
Check us out on Instagram for more stuff @pkwoodworking

[@Hog-g2z]

Good morning 🌅, Great machine, I have separates, the model one below yours, My jointer is 420, which I believe is the same length as yours, I found it not long enough, so I’ve purchased for aluminium extruded rials, and on either side of the bed I drilled and tapped to insert captive bolts, It took me quite awhile to make sure that it was accurate, but I then slide the aluminium rails on either side, with a support leg connecting the two end together to the floor which I could adjust in height, and I set 24 mil/1inch plywood into the aluminium rails, the total length of the table was somewhere around 5 1/2 m, + , Classic E520 had the input reading, I believe I was one of the first in the uk , around 2007/8 , I am now retired and now living in France, and I still have most of my machines, and my Felder K7 spindle moulder/sawbench and tools , Mafell and Festool, Wadkin EKA 4/5 head tenner , Wadkin R8 wood lathe, from France.

[@pkwoodworking]

Fantastic stuff indeed! I have the Aigner extension devices and the rails to attach to the J/P, the Shaper and the band saw. I still need to add the rails to the J/P ans the bandsaw.

[@Mc-zb3xg]

YESSSSS PK UPLOADED AFTER A LONG 4 MONTH HIATUS

[@pkwoodworking]

Yes, I have another video in the works!

[@justcruisin109]

The envy is strong with this one 😊 Thank you for explaining all its features. Cheers

[@pkwoodworking]

Thanks justcruisin109! I know I may have rambled a bit, but there just isn't much out there on SCM and L'invincible on KZbin.

[@creyerson]

Congratulations! A very well produced video.

[@pkwoodworking]

Thank you

[@bigdogmn73]

Here we go....been waiting for this one.. What a beast! Congrats!

[@pkwoodworking]

Thank You Nate D. Time just gets away from ya... So far it's Beauty and the Beast!

[@extremewoodworker]

Congratulations, an awesome buy that will provide many years of enjoyment. Steve

[@pkwoodworking]

Thanks Steve! With a 5 second switchover, I should grow old with her!

[@r.guardia9107]

That’s one handsome machine. I can’t imagine the Martin would be any better. Have you noticed any rust on the mirror table? Looks too nice to even use.

[@pkwoodworking]

No rust. I did coat the top with carbon method.

[@David_Best]

Martin is reconsidering bringing the T32 J/P to the USA. Currently, you can't buy one here. This machine looks like a better choice than the T32 and it's less money.

[@pkwoodworking]

Competition is great. Hopefully we will get more combo machines to jump into the US market. I agree about the L'invincible FS 7, but I am biased

[@ravenheart1439]

I tell ya for the price it better be flawless out the box..super nice machine, goes without saying...

[@pkwoodworking]

I agree. Taking the leap of faith with this was a worry as I had no reference in North America. I was more than satisfied when it arrived!

[@NicolasRubio]

Totally in love, congrats!!! And thank you very much for posting content on this machine, there is almost nothing online about the L’Invincibile line and as someone with an all-SCM shop, they are my dream machines!

[@pkwoodworking]

Nico, SCM should be way more covered on KZbin! It is great stuff.

[@NicolasRubio]

@@pkwoodworking Totally agree on that! I have a MiniMax cu300c combination machine, a MiniMax me22 edgebander, a MiniMax ad21 line boring machine and my Formula s440p bandsaw should be here in a month. “Albert’s workshop” is a very nice guy who is waiting for a L’Invincibile sliding table saw so I look forward to seeing content on that one soon!

[@pkwoodworking]

Nico, Albert and I email back and forth quite a bit. He helped push me over the edge to buy this. I have a S640P bandsaw that I found on a auction site that was pretty much brand new. It is a beast, waiting for the new shop!

[@NicolasRubio]

@@pkwoodworking Looking forward to seeing that new shop! I was going to get the MiniMax s45n but decided to go for the Formula s440p. I then considered the s540p but it wasn’t worth it for me and the footprint was a dealbreaker. I hope I can move to a bigger shop sooner than later and get separate machines and a bigger bandsaw too.

[@pkwoodworking]

Nico, I didn't intend to get that bandsaw. It just happened... But I always thought that a bigger shop would mean separates for me, but with a 5 second change over, I figure it takes 5 seconds to walk to another machine and turn it on.

[@Conradlovesjoy]

This tool makes me drool. Too bad I don’t have 3 phase in my house lol.

[@pkwoodworking]

I don't have 3 phase power at my house. I use a phase converter to get three phase.

[@Conradlovesjoy]

@@pkwoodworkingwell well well. I had no idea such a technology existed. Good to know! Now I won’t be so hesitant when I see a good used professional tool that has 3 phase required.

[@pkwoodworking]

I wish I would have taken that advice a few years back...

[@swiftyforlifey1]

I'm in awe!

[@pkwoodworking]

Well, You did see it in person...

[@zacharybrosious2293]

I asked my local dealer about the L’invincible FS 7 Jointer/Planer and was told its not in the US market.

[@pkwoodworking]

Obviously not true anymore. I purchased through Wurth Lewis and company in Southern California but Sam Blasco from SCM was able to get me info and pricing before that. I do believe that mine is the first in the US.

[@davidhouchin2353]

​@@pkwoodworkingsam blasco is great to deal with

[@pkwoodworking]

He sure is! @@davidhouchin2353

[@colinturner6628]

Great video, do you find the SCM quality is good?, looks fantastic. SCM do some excellent products, but you do have to pay a premium for them.

[@pkwoodworking]

Colin, I find the quality to be exceptional for the L'invincible and excellent for SCM in general. THe L'invincible line is the top class SCM product, so you should expect better. I feel like the SCM L'invincible is actually a great value when you compare it to Martin and is a bit more than Felder Format 4 products.

[@tomkelly4535]

Great Job!

[@pkwoodworking]

Thank You

[@LongNeckWoodworking]

Awesome machine!

[@pkwoodworking]

Thank you!

[@newdutchworkshop7026]

That's a beautiful machine! Do you know if they offer a second outfeed roller on these? That combined with the segmented infeed roller, digital thickness control and crazy quick change-over would absolutely destroy any competition...

[@pkwoodworking]

I asked about the option of two outfeed rollers. Sadly although the brochure was not clear, we found that there was not an option for two outfeed rollers. Only for the S7 planer. So far there has not been an issue of pulling the wood through.

[@newdutchworkshop7026]

@@pkwoodworking that's a shame. Still a beautiful machine though. I've currently got an older FS410 and I'm thinking about upgrading to a dual51 or FS7 half a year or so from now. Seems like the FS7 is way faster when it comes to the change-over. It's interesting to see that my current machine is actually very similar when it comes to the castings, parallelogram system and cutterblock/roller assembly despite being some 20 years old. I do have to lower the table to 100mm or more and pull the fence all the way forward for change-over. Like you, I'd love to have separate machines (Martin!) but I simply don't have the space

[@pkwoodworking]

I know this may be controversial, but I think the Nova units are closer relatives, but the base of the FS 7 appears more substantial, and there is a significant weight difference.

[@newdutchworkshop7026]

Hey! Just watching this again because my eyes are bigger than my wallet😂 (also still financially recovering from my Martin slider) I've been looking at those Aigner extensions as they would be great for my J/P combo as well as the bandsaw, I'd love to see a video on them and hear what you think :)

[@pkwoodworking]

When I get the machines into the new shop I will do a video and include the Aigner Extensions in it.

[@kazoobmp]

I bought the dual 51 and I'm very happy with it, but i originally wanted the fs7... mind if i ask what the msrp was on it? Great video!

[@pkwoodworking]

@kazoobmp I ordered 18 months ago and the base price was just under $27k then.

[@andrejrasevic6088]

I’m curious what feature this has that the Formal Dual 51 does not? The Dual can programmatically set the height for planing like the SCM. Not arguing on behalf of one or the other - just making sure I’m not missing something

[@pkwoodworking]

This has a few features that the Dual 51 does not. - I prefer the fit and finish of the FS 7. - The FS 7 has a larger motor @ 15hp. The max for the Dual 51 is 13.5 hp - The air assisted table lift system (There was an electric option for the Dual 51, but I was told this was discontinued)Th - Planer table does not need to be lowered (beyond 25.0mm) to execute the switch over - The Dual 51 has to be lowered to 5" approximately. - The dust collection does not change during the switch ove, so less flexible ducting can be used in a permanent setup. - 5 second change over for the FS 7 vs. approximately a minute for the Dual 51 (could be a few seconds less depending on the height of the planer) - Heavier Machine @ 2350 pounds vs. 1980 pounds - 4" longer bed for the jointer - 520mm vs. 510mm planer width. - Available with a segmented infeed roller. - Quick change outfeed rollers The Dual 51 has some features that are NOT available on the FS 7 - The Dual 51 has fully adjustable speeds vs 4 speeds for the FS 7 - The Dual 51 has an option for a rubber infeed roller - The Dual 51 can be had with a SUVA guard from Felder, the SUVA guard is available for the FS 7 but not through SCM. - The Dual 51 has a bracket that can be ordered to use a power feeder with the jointer. This could be fabricated for the FS 7.

[@andrejrasevic6088]

@@pkwoodworking Thank you sooo much for such a detailed response. Very fair description from both manufacturer's point of view. Last question - I am assuming you have a phase converter at your home shop. Which one do you have and what has your experience been?

[@pkwoodworking]

I have a Phase Perfect PTE010R and it is amazing. It has been flawless! I will be upgrading soon to a larger Phase Perfect because I now have a 3ph Dust Collector and that adds to the 3ph load, I highly recommend Phase Perfect. I chose to mount it outside. This minimizes to noise inside the shop. It is not loud, just a bit buzzy.

[@andrejrasevic6088]

@@pkwoodworking thanks for the detailed response again! I’ve been looking into phase converters for some time now and phase perfect does seem to be the leader for this technology. I was looking into getting a 3 phase service set up at my home shop but it just doesn’t seem to make sense financially. On the other hand from what I’ve been reading it seems like the phase perfect actually produces a cleaner and more consistent signal than you would even get from the power company

[@pkwoodworking]

I agree with the statement about 3ph from Phase Perfect. the tolerance from leg to leg in voltage swings is tight. Many people have no issues with 3ph from the power companies. Others have issues. I believe it comes down to how the power company gets you three phase as there seems to be several ways. I am not an expert on 3ph power, so consult SCM and Phase Perfect!

[@gonzomaximus2429]

Did that come in on a 3 phase electric system or 1 phase.

[@pkwoodworking]

This is a 3phase Machine. Only made in 3phase.

[@Simonfrios]

my guess is $25k

[@pkwoodworking]

Answered above - list was $28k without options.

[@damionbrown9132]

I was enjoying this video until you said touch up paint

[@pkwoodworking]

Not sure why? The machine came pretty much flawless from SCM.