Top Reasons You Won't Like 2025 Toyota 4Runner: Buy 2024 Instead?

[@Toyotajeff]

Remember to visit www.6thgen4runner.com and www.4gtaco.com

[@DevGhadiali]

PLEASE DO REVIEW FOR THE NEW 2025 COROLLA HYBRID ALL TRIMS

[@renegade7493]

Miss the V8

[@Kjhgr01]

5th gen 4Runner for ever!!

[@bluedevil0133]

Bought a 2024 TRD ORP earlier this month. Have about 725 miles on it. Everything I wanted and nothing I didn’t. Plan to keep for 20 years. Couldn’t be happier with my purchase.

[@994pt4]

Same!

[@on2wheels275]

Same

[@Nonthanburi2]

Same, SR5 Premium 4WD, wanted last generation, very happy with it so far! No moon roof (couldn’t care less), fake leather seats. When I left the dealership, I felt all beat up! 😂

[@994pt4]

@@Nonthanburi2 more headroom height without sunroof...my preference.

[@rickyaz8640]

Auto start stop is not a selling point for your average 4Runner owner

[@DavidWX877]

It's just more junk to force you into a new one sooner than ever just like the turbo.

[@scottstewart8737]

They don’t have that so why would it matter?

[@rickyaz8640]

@@scottstewart8737 was in the video. Maybe watch it next time

[@Anomize23]

@@scottstewart8737 DOH!!

[@musclesmouse]

Bought my last 2 vehicles because of no Start/Stop

[@calvinkang1224]

I am with my third 4runner now, most likely gonna grab a 6th gen or LandCruiser in future but I am waiting at least 2 or 3 more years to let the problems of new products settle down.

[@werd2182]

Same here.

[@994pt4]

5th Gen going out of stock everywhere! So glad we got our 2024 ORP earlier this year.

[@utubetjc]

I traded my 2017 SR5 Premium for a new TRD ORP November 2023 for many of the reasons mentioned in this video. Thanks for your overview Jeff.

[@tgrujic1965]

I'll wait for a few years till they iron out the kinks

[@triley9587]

Never buy the first new model year

[@marcosquartec5073]

💯💯💯

[@dorrito]

I'll lease year 1, then buy or get the 4th year!

[@musclesmouse]

bought a new 2023 4Runner because of the new 4Runner announcement. V6 vs turbo 4

[@therealpatriot1776]

We have that exact same silver 4runner with black decals and silver color. Just got in in December last year. Best SUV of all times

[@Levi-mg4nf]

The 2010-24 4Runners are a modern classic. The frame, the 1GR-FE V6 engine and 5-speed auto transmission actually debuted on the 4th generation 4Runner back in 2003, with minimal changes afterwards. Much of the research and development being done in the late 90s and early 2000s. So in short, the outgoing 4Runner comes from a bygone era when Toyota was at their peak in terms of quality and reliability.

[@Monkeyseemonkey79]

They are great vehicles, but if you live anywhere that salts the winter roads then sadly they are rust buckets.

[@markderoller7645]

I have a 2022 Limited. If I bought new I would spend a little more and get the GX.

[@josephkraft5640]

Yeah I have 5th gen TRD pro. I’m set for life. If I ever had to replace it and get this new turbo crap I’d go with Landcruiser the new 4Runner is not what 4Runner people wanted. I like the rugged box on wheels not the rav 4 with some extra weight.

[@Toyotajeff]

I love the 2025 4Runner and would gladly upgrade! What's your opinion of 2025 vs previous years? Thanks for watching and subscribing! Jeff

[@RogueDemagogue]

you're doing a great job as a paid spokesman for Toyota to pump up this 6th gen 4Runner with a smaller engine that's turbo charged to a point it will fail and explode from the higher heat and pressure.

[@jensalan]

I'm glad there's so much hate towards the turbo 4 cylinder. Maybe I'll actually have a chance at finding one at MSRP without waiting a year 😂

[@Toyotajeff]

That’s amazing logic haha!!!

[@bohan9957]

The 4-banger turbo is a major turnoff for me.

[@DXpheus]

Awesome, I'll buy a 2000 4runner with no turbo or auto START/STOP

[@adeyemiadewuyi2962]

I bought a new 2023 4runner limited. Just because they were ditching the V6. I don't want turbo and 4 cylinders . Will keep it for 10 years

[@MorleMinto]

10 years ???

[@adeyemiadewuyi2962]

Yep. I also have a 2003 v8 4runner. Runs like a charm

[@flyguy2021]

My 4th gen is only at 250k. It will be a few years before I need a new one.

[@makyhianimations]

2:15 That engine looks like a nightmare to fix

[@jensalan]

You're right. If they had included a plastic cover, it would have made it look a lot easier to work on. 😉

[@Shmity1962]

On the new 4 turbo the fuel rail goes over the valve cover. Can you imagine just changing a valve cover gasket

[@e30ogPlayground]

Why didn't you open the rear hatch of the new one? Clearly trying to hide the fact that the new 4Runner has a much smaller cargo area than the old one

[@florindagonzalez5700]

Really? Ew.

[@Anomize23]

It’s the same with the new Land Cruiser they try hiding which has a small gas tank😂

[@davidmagnuson1428]

I am sure that Toyota will get all the kinks worked out of the 2025 4Runner eventually, but with turbos and V4 and new 8 speed transmission - No thanks for the first year of anything including Toyota. I needed a new beach truck this year, and so I bit the bullet and got 2024 TRD Off Road Premium and am very happy so far with my V6 gas guzzling reliable 5 speed 4Runner.

[@troylandwehr]

All turbos stress the engine out. Small engines with turbos don’t last . It heats up the solenoids everything runs hot and turbos make the gasoline mix with the oil. When gasoline mixes with the oil, the oil cannot do its job.. never buy turbos

[@DavidWX877]

these people will never figure that out! They think Toyota reinvented the turbo and compare it to turbos on a diesel engine.

[@dbastardo1]

Has Toyota ever dropped the ball with the quality of their vehicles that people aren’t buying them anymore? I’m confident Toyota engineers took everything into account to produce a good replacement for the former 4Runner. Unless you know something from the manufacturer we don’t, I’d say give them some time to prove themselves. Besides, first generation vehicles normally come with bugs so let’s be patient and “don’t burn them bridges just yet” 🤣

[@DavidWX877]

@@dbastardo1 Yeah they have dropped the ball, have you been under a rock? The Tacoma, Tundra all have major issues. The new 4Runner has been delayed.

[@dbastardo1]

@@DavidWX877 but aren’t they standing behind their product and replacing engines on all the vehicles involved? It only happened to one specific model engine, not their entire fleet of vehicles. There are some that don’t even have an issue and they’re still replacing it. I remember Porsche went through something similar with crankshaft bearings in a particular engine back in the day. Issues were corrected as well. Now I remember Corollas from the 2000s also had issues with oil leaks in their engines past the 100k miles due to issues with piston rings. None of the less, Corollas are considered today one of their best built vehicles right next to the Camry. That doesn’t sound like dropping the ball to me. Not everything is perfect. Perhaps today’s vehicles are not being built like the old days, built to last. Just saying

[@dorrito]

@troylandwehr not these new ones. This isn't 20 years ago. But unfortunately the cylinder count will only go down from here.

[@DavidWX877]

unfortunately turbo engines do not last as long. average life of a turbo is 150,000 miles.

[@flyguy2021]

What’s the basis of that statistic?

[@steve8803]

@DavidWX877 any engine that's poorly engineered doesn't last long. The longest running engines out there are turbocharged, look at any transport truck.

[@XPRoller]

you should get a new one at 150k anyway. Gotta enjoy the new technology.

[@Frontier2022]

I agree a candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

[@bjsimon802]

Usa emission laws are killing v6 and v8, understand

[@olgamakarova5520]

Nailed the look , AT LAST , while preserving THE DNA AND SPIRIT.

[@Wreck-it_Ralph]

I traded my 2013 tacoma for a 2024 4runner trd premium. I absolutely love the 4runner. Coming from a stripped tacoma I feel like I'm driving a luxury vehicle that is built like a tank. Yeah its not the quickest but if you figure out when to let it rev a little (2nd to 3rd gear) she pulls just fine. I find all the options people seem to complain about perfectly functional and simple. I hope to keep the 4runner for a very long time.

[@viking7558]

Twin turbos? Nope! I have experienced what a turbo failure does to an internal combustion engine

[@LionRunner]

I'm so glad I have the 5th gen 4Runner, Reliability is by far at the top. Per CarCareNut 4Runner engine is more reliable than Land cruiser200 / Tundra/ Lexus GX460. Isn't reliability the main reason to buy a Toyota?

[@BradleyBishop]

I'll say it since no one else is addressing it. Turbo: the problem I see with turbo is that manufacturers are putting in under-sized engines for EPA/CAFE compliance. If you let it coast and never engage the turbo then your EPA numbers look great. It's now how most people drive. The way most people drive the turbo will be in use a large percent of the time (I'd argue most of the time). Meaning, now that 4cyl engine is being hit rather hard, most of the time, because it is otherwise underpowered and turbo is the only way to get it to be consumer-acceptable. Turbo in a race car? Ok. Turbo in a pickup truck for when it needs an extra boost? OK. Turbo to assist an undersized engine just sounds like it's asking for trouble to me.

[@timgibson3754]

0f all the comments I've read This was the best.

[@willywold9090]

As a 33 year diesel mechanic I learned a long time ago a thing called duty cycle. The ability of the engine to sustain 90% or higher horsepower for an extended period of time. A turbo’d 4 banger is not going to be able to sustain that especially towing up long grades, towing a weight of say 80% + of its tow capacity. Sure the turbo 4 cylinder has more HP but at what cost? Dip into that HP too much and you’ll be replacing turbo or engine a lot sooner. We’re downsizing in don’t need a 1 ton diesel truck anymore. However I need something my wife could drive and not be intimidated. Like a 4x4 Limited. We’re planning on moving to the Northwest next year so 4x4 is definitely desirable. Here in Texas I don’t find very many just the 2wd. Then she prefers a “sparkling white” as she puts it, with tan interior. Sigh. Now she wants to wait till 2025 to purchase something, most likely it will be used as people are scarfing up the last V-6’s.

[@dorrito]

I love how jeff is basically ric flair for yota's.

[@arashalvandi4371]

I ❤ 4RUNNER!

[@timgibson3754]

2nd Place

[@erickisel8668]

@ToyotaJeff Reviews: Looking forward to my first ever Toyota, a 2024 4Runner TRD ORP in Underground. It is due in this week. I am hoping it will last me the next 20 years.

[@994pt4]

same!...not letting this one go.

[@chuckwalla2967]

I would get both so that I'm covered on both reliability and modernity.

[@Baasicstuff]

Anyone knocking the 4Turbo has not driven one, the V6 and 6 speed is terrible. Turbo phobia in America is very odd, Japan's been using them for years and are prefered over the less efficient non turbo engines. I lived their for 11 years and off roaded with the many Japanese, they also dont put large wide tires on their cars which destroy the torque numbers.

[@4WheelsfromRob]

New 2025 4Runner not likely to have any issues as same current Tacoma (limited number of models). My 22 TRD Pro lease is up a yr from now and I will be getting new model. Been driving new 24 Tacoma now for 6mos and it's been fantastic 👌

[@Anomize23]

Always a sucker

[@rickp6391]

Without a doubt the 2024 is the last year of the awesome reliable 4R. The new 2025 turbo or turbo/hybrid (no frame bump stops) is extremely more complex and has 3-4 times as many fail points. Don't buy a turbo, hybrid, electric or CVT, you'll be much happier and wealthier. Turbos do one thing awesome, they wear the motor out much faster. Never mind the turbo also wont last long either. Good luck.

[@DavidWX877]

To bad everyone does not know this they like to point to diesel engines with turbos and how long they last but they seem to forget gas and diesel engines are not the same. Not only that a turbo puts stress on the little engine causing it to wear out faster and the whole idea of them coming with a battery pack that needs to be replaced at some point that will cost thousands of dollars to replace is a huge added cost with very little benefit.

[@florindagonzalez5700]

Yep. I had a hard time liking the previous gen face that when I finally grew to like it, they changed it for 2025, and I don't like the it.

[@drift6785]

24 still looks good after 15 yrs. Imo looks better than the 25 4runner to me. And guaranteed that the 4runner currently will outlast the 25 and more. The 25 second row looks tight and getting in and out of it you'll probably have some tire stain on your leg or pants since it isn't covered at The wheel area when you open the door.

[@Lexusgx550]

What was the most miles Toyota lasted on turbo engine ?

[@gladsonj2333]

I am not sure if this will hit New Zealand. We only have Prado here

[@SteveSabbai]

2025 4Runner rear tail lights ARE FUGLY.

[@rationalmoderate]

To each his own. My 2012 Trail edition is ready for trade. I want the new one, it is quite "Manly".

[@7aramkeda334]

Toyota has made a huge mistake with the new 2025 4Runner, that 4cyl is absolutely 💩.

[@jamesmcguire730]

Am I to ignore the 100 reasons I do like it? Toyotas 2jzgte engine is turbo and extremely reliable and one of the most famous engines ever made

[@ryan_isherwood]

I have zero interest in a hybrid and I don’t want a tiny little turbo motor. Sorry I’m out.

[@SleepyJoeNephew]

I looking for a 3rd gen Tacoma with premium package low mileage and in white color, affordable as well. and not overpacked in miles

[@topofthegreen]

the 4 cylinder turbo is a deal killer, that and the price.

[@RogueDemagogue]

Toyota won't stop building the V6 naturally aspirated engines, they still have customers in different countries that demand them. the V6's will be in some sort of smaller version of the 4Runner for overseas customers. So, a replacement engine will still be available for the 5th gen for a very long time.

[@jeffmeyers8417]

I'm interested in the 2025 4runner

[@anthonygregorio2208]

I’ll take the 2025 if they fixed the steering wheel shake that my 2024 and 2021 had and that Toyota is not doing anything about. Hit 65 mph and steering wheel starts shaking. They say it’s the tires and even after road force balancing them the truck still shakes. Then the dealership said “Well the tire company allows a certain tolerance”. Are you kidding! This is my 2nd 4Runner and so far my older H3 has proven to drive smoother. For a $50k truck these 4Runners should not have these problems.

[@4WheelsfromRob]

Oh yeah, just to mention, the 2024 production has ended. So if you can find a 2024, grab it now.

[@monoped_adventures]

I just hope the Japanese build quality for the 6th gen 4Runner is better than the 4th gen Tacomas. I took a close look at one, and I was shocked at how cobbled together it looked.

[@bapakbob3897]

4 FJ cruisers owned 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014, hated that 19 gal tank. Same truck under the skin as 4R. Started out looking at the Crown SUV intro'ed this year. Head slap time: the Crown limited version is almost same price as a limited 4R, but a new unibody failure with mucho plastic and the thinnnest metal Toyota could press, and a 4 banger. Wow i could have a body on frame v6 luxo 4R limited for same money!. So i did a 500 mile search and found the one i loved, a dock strike was keeping it on the boat until this past wednesday. now just waiting to go to dealer and pick it up. Will join its stablemate the 2021 Tundra limited. The last good trucks Toyota ever built and will ever build, now that Toyota is a hand maid to Corporate Average Fuel Economy. i DO like my 38 gal Tundra tank for my all day drives, ha ha.

[@jm4runnerpro330]

Did you say the match with 8-speed transamination of the old 4 runners?

[@RogueDemagogue]

You mentioned the 5th gen doesn't have upgraded safety; it was only 10 years ago that the 5th gen was rated the safest vehicle on earth. Most of the upgrades to safety in other vehicles have failed and killed people and recalled and companies were sued.

[@richardwray8478]

No thanks on the 6th generation. A no or low tech, shift not dial 4 wheel drive, V6 varient would be great. Toyota appears to abandon a great ( don't need to advertise it) product? Loyal customers are the best customers.

[@MartinezFAMHawaii]

Tech wise 2025, Engine wise Reliability 2024 and it's proven....

[@pipoodd2740]

The 5 gen 4 runner has the best automatic transmission ever made 😉

[@FrankLinares]

I have a new 2024 SR5 premium in artic white. Love the vehicle. But for someone who sells these Toyotas for a living I wouldn't make a video with "Top Reasons you Won't like...". Just my 2 cents.

[@Stormtrooper_98Trd]

I have a 2nd gen that i just put a 5vzfe 3.4l v6 in. I'll never need another 4runner again. O mile rebuilt 3.4l v6

[@yengvang1368]

Look at all the wires at the engine bay. How do you work on????, it have to go to the dealer to hang out and make more friends.

[@Urosaurus]

I think they will get it polished in a few years

[@sinajetta1746]

I love the 5th gen that's why on my 3rd

[@Jhnzo_]

Turbo 4, nope

[@DavidWX877]

Yeah it wont last as long. Did toyota forget why we buy toyota in the first place?

[@DeafPivots]

EPA smog enforces all car makers to use less cylinders for better smog.@@DavidWX877

[@Gazmitron-nt4dp]

Toyota, I was ready to pull the trigger on getting my first when I saw this... then I found out the engines it comes with. Thanks anyways.

[@aekuterbach1]

Toyota believed the eco hype and is paying for it now! Nobody wants these weak power packages across their whole line of new cars. 😢

[@baljindersinghsidhu3959]

Moment I heard that 6th gen 4runner has a turbo charged engine, I made my mind that I'm not going to buy this in the future and only stick with the 5th 4runner.. Turbo engines r worst doesn't last long.. not worth.

[@TheAngryCamper]

4runner with a 4 banger, hell nah bro!!

[@garynapoli3042]

When did they start putting eight speeds iin

[@pabloscarimbolo8797]

Do you know the mpg of the 2025 i-force?

[@nick-3388]

Is it because the 2025 is not available for sale yet and they want the 2024 inventory gone?

[@Pghyinzer]

The 2025 looks like a RAV4 on steroids. I like it.

[@Anomize23]

YAY!!! LETS GET RAVVVY!!!!!!! 😂

[@ningstover1221]

Here in BRISTOL and KINSPORT, TN. soo hard to find a SR-5 Premium 2024> Toyota 4 Runner! I’ve been looking and searching for it.

[@BradleyBishop]

Talk to the sales guy and see if they have one allocated to them and then, if they do, put a deposit down on it ($500).

[@naveedrehman2987]

I’ll stick to the 2024 4 runners and priors. They will last along time. Not so much the new ones.

[@svang1991]

I’m pretty sure the 5th gen 4Runner does not use an 8 speed auto. It has an archaic 5 speed auto.

[@danpauls3323]

I love my 2023 4Runner. If I had to replace it - say due to an accident, I'd get a Land Cruiser. I don't like the looks of the 6th gen. I'm not too worried about turbochargers - Toyota has been putting them in their diesel engines for a very long time (too bad none in the US, though).

[@scottstewart8737]

You’ll like them once you see them in person they’re beautiful

[@Anomize23]

Yeah diesel and turbos are quite different than regular gas and turbo. Former VW owner here and id suggest you look into the differences.

[@danpauls3323]

@@Anomize23 I wouldn't necessarily compare VW's engineering or manufacturing abilities to Toyota's - regardless of the fuel the engine was designed to burn. I had a TDI Jetta and I traded it in for my first Tacoma 15 years ago. It was a decent car, but the quality just wasn't the greatest.

[@WhatTheIfYouSeeKay]

A 2024 TRD Pro 4runner is cheaper than a 2025 SR5 4runner…… I got a 24 TRD ORP for 46k…. When the new generation are in the shop getting new turbos or new battery banks replaced. Or new engines because of all that torque in a small engine = accelerated wear and tear…. I will still be driving my dinosaur! ( btw….I hope I am wrong, but you know I am not)

[@kgjung2310]

You basically need to ask yourself if you're ok spending $50k+ for the privilege of being a beta tester. If you are, then congrats you're going to get to do just that. If not, just wait and see how this new drive train actually performs and lasts. It's conventional wisdom in tech that you never bet on generation one of anything. You always wait till gen 2 or even gen 3 if you can. By then any bugs are worked out and you have better known quantity to judge. If you don't need the newest shiny, let those who do take the hit.

[@tjernst6488]

I can’t afford a Tacoma anymore; I’m just guessing 4Runners will start at $10k more.

[@cindyloppnow1621]

I mainly like the new colors of the 2025 😂

[@Wolfsden_Gaming]

People blaming toyota for the 4 banger turbos. Its not toyota. Look at the auto market, ita all auto makers, they are being foeced to downgrade engines and bet better fuel econemy by the damn epa. We need to abolish the epa and go back to ice v6 and v8 engines.

[@Anomize23]

THAT is the big achievement to be made to have an overall impact ACCROSS THE BOARD. TOO BAD NOONE CANT SEE IT HARD ENOUGH 🙈

[@jeffhenjes1722]

The real reason the 4Runner is garbage is Toyota wants to push more expensive Land Cruisers and Lexus GX vehicles and I'm OK with that.

[@Prachka1]

Like the redesign. However, their drivetrain needs idiots to be a tested on….

[@blackwatch7151]

When will the engine replacement/recall happen 😅

[@jaredcritzer2647]

.. 2024 matched with a 5 speed transmission not an 8

[@nunobarbosa7091]

It’s thermodynamics…..increase the heat and you will get (at some point) a hit

[@CesarDelgado-fu2nd]

Well Jeff 2025 is good deal

[@fe9523]

man the old 4runner eats more gasoline than anything out there, if you are ok with breaking the bank every week on gas you should get it, I certainly prefer any of the other more fuel efficient options from Toyota..

[@Shmity1962]

I’m still driving my 1996 3rd gen but have a 2024 on order and getting it soon. I’ve owned turbocharged cars, not interested

[@tkluz]

Really Jeff ???? You are doing a 'Comparison" using an SR5 (lowest trim) to a Limited ?!?!?! OMG. How much does Toyota pay you for these maligned 'reviews"? Maybe do a 'review' on how exactly alike the new Tacoma and the new 4Runner are, that would be nice. Maybe do a 'review' on sales figures for the new and former generations?? Because really, its customer demand that matters most and there isn't anyone 'demanding' these new ones. Customers were demanding the last generation though.

[@tab3Gator]

In one breath you address the problems with the Tacoma’s, and in the next you say you’ll jump in this one? Huh??

[@coreylucas5997]

Despite thirsty fuel economy, reliability, durability, the interior is bulky old school feel, screw the 25 model year coming, I haven’t seen a single new one on dealerships, I’m sure Toyota is delaying it since the Tacoma truck is not selling and is wayyyyyy overpriced, I found a 2024 for 40 grand I feel when they finally get the 25 year on the lots imma negotiate 2024 one down to 30 grand then shoot my trade and down payment

[@Thankyou_3]

5th Gen 4Runner has the 5 speed auto transmission and the 4.0 V6 engine are bulletproof. The 6th generation can never match the reliability of naturally aspirated engine from 5th generation 4Runner.

[@utubetjc]

I agree.

[@TheKingOfInappropriateComments]

The thing that always annoyed me with toyotas is that you can buy a brand new one and 1-2 years later they come out with a new grill or slightly changed body style then you're already driving the old style model.

[@Jojo-ni2cg]

Hi Jeff a 2.4 turbo is to small of a motor for the big rig!!

[@josephchiarello11]

I don’t like the new one - I have a 5th gen and I’m keeping it

[@TimNewton-ts5cw]

Stay away from the four banger turbos they're junk

[@patrickona2306]

Buy a 24 and keep it for 20 years