Top Star Bowling #9 Don Carter versus Dick Hoover

[@bobby_c7671]

When Don Carter opened his new center in Tamarac,Fl,I had the honor to bowl against him in thier scratch Peterson point league. He beat me 2 out of 3 but i got him in total. What an absolute gentleman he was. It truly was one of the highlights of my career.

[@douglasday4424]

Hey bobby-- what combination of mind altering drugs are you using?

[@nicholasschroeder3678]

I'm watching a 60 year old bowling match at midnight. Enough with the Covid. Pretty wonderful though to see such a civilized and mannerly competition. Kudos to both the competitors and producers.

[@barrysharer3401]

Back in the 60’s a 206 average was County high. I went to a scratch league recently and many of the averages were 220+! A different game today.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

Yeah, there are a lot of total hacks nowadays averaging 220-235 and they think they are great or something. The combination of the resin ball and the Typical House Shot have inflated scores and egos to the great detriment of the sport. Back when this match was played these guys had to make really good shots to hit the pocket and they had to be great spare shooters as well. Now you have B and C leaguers carrying a 220 average and missing three or four ten pins a night. Back in the day all you needed was a $25 rubber ball, a decent pair of shoes and a bag to carry it in, and you could go anywhere in the USA and get your strikes and spares if you could hit what you were looking at. Nowadays you can just keep switching balls until you find the one that lets you miss two boards either way and strike. And you have hotheads, sore losers and clowns acting like spoiled little children bowling for major titles. It’s just asinine and terribly expensive and we’re watching the ruination of a great sport that called for accuracy and consistency to reach the top level.

[@dougmilesmedia]

Don Carter had a totally unique style. Looked like he pushed the ball down the lane. The Arnold Palmer of bowling. Jack Buck at the mic is great!

[@DAG1439]

The Legend Don Carter great films he was my idle growing up.

[@1ufcfanatic795]

@Carrie Zhu All 750 rpm of him.

[@bufb]

Jack Buck Sr commentary. Love these old bowlers

[@kevinjohnson4599]

Same here because this was when bowling was bowling. It's not the same anymore.

[@20alphabet]

@@kevinjohnson4599 You are absolutely correct.

[@drummachine434]

Wow Dick Hoover put a lot of revs on that ball. Especially for the 50s

[@20alphabet]

I liked his bowling, but he wasn't very well-liked by other bowlers from what I've heard.

[@douglasbuck8986]

Well......... what can you say about being able to go back in time and SEE the people you only heard of. Nice to see hand written scoring again.

[@DAG1439]

Don Carter was in at least the top 3 bowlers in the last 75 years yes he is dead but if you look at the tougher Lane conditions they bowled under with rubber balls which they now use for spares their strikes did not come that easy back in the 1950s and 1960s He won tournaments that he had to Bowl 100 games and defeated many others and very tough competition such as Dick Weber, Dick Hoover

[@dubious1s]

Thank you for the post, I am a novice (at best) bowler and found the information about the difference in the game between then and now quite interesting.

[@blakfloyd]

I agree with you Stan. Don had to beat more Dicks than Linda Lovelace.

[@stewartberger7734]

Carter the Babe Ruth of the lanes

[@johnchojnowski8790]

I bowled my first 300 game at Don Carters Homestead bowl in a trio league in 1988 I bowled lead off and my opponent was Don Carter🎳🎳🎳

[@lendrury2771]

Used to watch don Carter bowl on ABC wide world of sports in the late 60s i was just a little kid and don was already a veteran bowler so he probably went back to the early 50s

[@mjhammer11]

I have never seen Don Carter bowl, and I always wondered as he was a star when I was a kid. Bowling in general always paid homage to Don Carter, so I always wondered what he was like bowling. This is the first time I've ever seen Don bowl. What a delivery. Very odd. But I guess it's no worse than the 2 handed bowlers of today. Just unusual. Loved it, Thank you for posting.

[@steveperry1344]

his bowling stroke looks like he's pushing the ball.

[@nicholasschroeder3678]

I'm more impressed with his posture. It looks like it hurts. His stroke is like Jim Furyk. Very odd, very accurate.

[@sk8ersbus1]

Shame on Bowlmor-AMF for running this historic bowling alley into the ground!!!! Along with Dick Weber Lanes and others. This classic footage is like GOLD!!!

[@FlyingCrow]

+sk8ersbus1 They're ruining a lot of nice bowling alleys into the ground, but don't worry, AMF will eventually run itself into the ground. It happens with any business that is controlled by the latest fad.

[@railroadskater2896]

Yeah I heard about Covina, what a tragedy that was. Of course now what they did to Carolier in NJ also makes me sick inside. Basically turning it into an oversized, overpriced boutique alley called Bowlero and throwing out any professional tournaments that were staples there for years.

[@20alphabet]

@@railroadskater2896 Covina Bowl is gone, and West Covina Lanes, now Bowlero, looks like a bar and arcade with lanes.

[@burdettecattley9164]

Don Carter STILL IS the greatest bowler of all time.

[@cayce9822]

Carrie Zhu what do you mean by that comment, are you mocking the fact that he died? Don Carter's accomplishments are legendary in spite of your juvenile & immature comments.

[@1ufcfanatic795]

WRW Jr might have something to say about that!🤣

[@samuelbeach5585]

@@1ufcfanatic795 Earl would as well.

[@ITILII]

Don Carter is BEYOND Legendary.....but the greatest bowler of all time is Earl Anthony 🎳

[@kevinkoch6900]

I always enjoyed bowling duck pins. To bad big money & TV never televised tournaments of it.

[@beeemm2578]

Being from the Akron, Oh area, Dick Hoover is an absolute immortal name around these parts. NE Ohio is an important area the longtime bowling scene. I have a doctor right next to Riviera Lanes....lol. Hallowed ground for sure. You can see the "Through These Doors Walk..." signage from the road. Awesome.

[@steveperry1344]

don carter looks like a really cool character. both guys roll a really soft ball.

[@cayce9822]

Don Carter was so cool, he could carry ice in his pockets Lol Seriously, he was a class act and one of the best bowlers of all time.

[@TheBatugan77]

Any video of the late great Dick Hertz?😮

[@Eddie_Schantz]

Would it be too much trouble to post the date that this was filmed?

[@20alphabet]

Lol, Dick Hoover (mentioned @19:08) likes water skiing! Can you imagine that guy in trunks being pulled behind a boat? 😆

[@cindyabbott3599]

My grandpa Ace Mitchell always had pictures in his store of Dick Hoover.....

[@ronlingron389]

all these classic shows I’ve been watching and I’ve literally seen one ten pin left in about 40 of these games over these shows on KZbin. A dime a dozen in today’s game. All the angle of entry and deflection. I’m going back to a rubber ball. EDIT: after watching this show in its entirety, fully retract my statement.

[@jimcoleman3757]

What Can I say. These guys were the pioneers of the game. All gentlemen & good sports.

[@stevenmiller1416]

The days when it didn't matter how hard you hit the ball. It wasn't moving. You actually had to hit your mark to strike and spare shooting was key.

[@donaldbarrett4454]

Championship Bowling was, for the most part, a Brunswick show. In 1956 AMF was the hidden sponsor of "Bowling Stars". That show featured scoring which put Championship Bowling to fame. During the production of a TV show, I asked Carmen if the lane condition contributed to his 846 series (the highest ever shot on television at the time). Carmen just smiled.

[@blakfloyd]

I love the banter from 20:49 - 21:01

[@cindystanley4648]

Enjoy the old bowlers, and less chatter boxes

[@michaelschweizer4772]

Donald Carter puts a tremendous amount of roll on the ball.

[@carlkelly3710]

Always impressed with 10 pin sparing back them, always hitting the belly

[@51Happy69]

I love watching these old bowling matches! I like all the new bowling too, but the loud crowds yelling and trying to make bowling like a football game is very distracting for the bowlers! These old bowlers could throw consistant strikes by bowling pretty straight so that is amazing!

[@gusreyes5447]

What kind of throw is Dick Hoover doing?

[@frankieburford7716]

I still have the pad from my old glove.

[@에코세이프]

Bowling history wow

[@51Happy69]

Are they bowling with plastic balls or rubber?

[@20alphabet]

Primarily rubber. Don used Crown Jewels also.

[@TommyJoeBob]

These videos are great to watch. Any idea what year this was made?

[@bradad82]

+TommyJoeBob 1961, I believe.

[@DAG1439]

Probably filmed in the 1950 s and what was so tough is that they mainly used rubber balls which today might be used for spare shooting. Don Carter and the greats in that era would Bowl some major tournaments that were 100 games

[@TomBarrister]

These were filmed in and around 1962 and early 1963. This episode was aired by various TV stations in late December of 1962.

[@regmason2329]

This was in 1963, or later, as Don is using his modified delivery, which he started using in 1963, before he signed with Ebonite.

[@simul8guy75]

What year was this?

[@weadley]

Notice how Dick Hoover's body type is not the norm in this era and everyone is skinny? Today he would be the norm and not the exception. We are all too fat these days!

[@20alphabet]

Yep

[@Mark-sj3xb]

Holy Cow! Jack Buck! I’ll bet all those bowlers smelled like body odor, cigarette smoke, and cheap hair tonic. I remember how men smelled back in the 1950s and early 60s

[@johncrosby7173]

and Old Spice!

[@20alphabet]

Lol, not exactly in that order.

[@davidheesen4001]

Had to have been after 1958 because they're using automatic hand dryers.

[@williamdunphy352]

Commentators: Jack Buck & Whitey Harris

[@mikegriffith4018]

Don carter earl anthony walter ray n belmo. Who wins?

[@jamesmurphy4234]

Belmo, his rev rate, consistency, angle of attack, and great form will dominate any of these bowlers

[@sarpilot100]

I think if Belmonte is using today’s equipment on modern synthetic lanes I think it’s no contest, Belmo wins. But if he’s using a brunswick Black Beauty on wood lanes I think it would affect his entry angle a lot and his strike percentage goes way down. Under the old lane conditions and vintage balls the finesse guys like Anthony, Carter and straight up the boards players like Walter Ray would be in the hunt. I would love to see Belmo’s power game on vintage conditions. Very interesting topic.

[@bobby_c7671]

Depends on the shot. On a totally flat shot Id have to go with Walter Ray.

[@20alphabet]

Belmonte? Lol, you cannot be serious.

[@irvinklugh8858]

LIKE IT.

[@weadley]

Is Dick Hoover rotating the ball backwards!!!?

[@charlesclonts4784]

XX

[@teejay6063]

Dick "hopes it'll be a real close match".. ...... 🤔 Not me. I wanna be up 70 in the 4th.