Top Ten Fleets Ranked in SWGOH!

[@knavenformed9436]

Honestly as a new player Malevolence looks like a very enticing first fleet to finish. Super cheap with 2 non-crews and maxing out your Geos are already great for finishing the ship battles/challenges. Also VulDroid is coupled with Iden Versio on the same node.

[@CalvinAwesome]

It is very accessible, I kinda love it

[@BUCIFALUS]

I used relic gg+geo r9 gg,7 spy+ sun,r3,r5 tie pilot soldies and i was long time the only one ranking 1 with malevolance vs those meta..and becose of this almost all my gac win is becose ships...low baners yes...but win is a win

[@BUCIFALUS]

even i was kiked from one guild at begining becose relic those...no gl so crisals from arena was only from flet..CadeBane nick:))

[@josh_ari]

14:18 shoutout to my favorite ship the endurance!

[@cannibalraptor]

I just wish they’d give us the droid Tri Fighter or Droid Gunship for Malevolence. It would fill out the fleet and could spice things up more. Obviously Resistance and First Order need some love, I just really like the Separatist fleet

[@CalvinAwesome]

Sepies could use the assist

[@hellothere8807]

The malevolence can beat every other fleet in the game only issue is you need ships from other fleets to do so I beat executor and profundity with malevolence for fleet arena but in gac its taking alot of stuff from other places and leaves you open to your other fleets not being as good

[@kitten8766]

Mace should get bad batch shuttle and the n1 Starfighter ect

[@CalvinAwesome]

Ect indeed.

[@override83]

In general, this mode drives me nuts. The star ships and starfighters are some of my favorite things about Star Wars, but this mode gets me so damn mad and frustrated. In arena I can't break the top 120 ranks, and the length it takes to gear up ships feels like such a chore, especially the Ghost + Phantom, with the entire Phoenix squad split between the 2 ships. Thanks for the video though. Kind of gives me an idea how to focus on ships to group up.

[@marklaktas7287]

Maybe the new raid will be in addition to the Krayt raid and have a “choose your own adventure” element like territory battles.

[@CalvinAwesome]

That would be better

[@jayhawker8200]

Top 10 fleets? And doing this right before leviathan?

[@CalvinAwesome]

Doing this right before leviathan

[@TheLeperofJerusalem]

We all know the leviathan is going to be no. 1 anyway

[@nofoff2862]

@@CalvinAwesomeAah, you are a bold one

[@starwarsgaming8767]

@@TheLeperofJerusalemfax

[@klaubihd6393]

@@TheLeperofJerusalemaged badly

[@bomafett]

My Thrawn fleet gets a surprising number of holds: Vader, EP, TIE Bomber starting, TIE-IN and Defender reinforcements. No other reinforcements or the AI will mess it up. That makes my Tarkin fleet: Sith Bomber, Malgus, Scythe, and whatever Empire or Sith are left over for reinforcements. That's not great, but I used it to beat a Malevolence today. And of course, when I get the Leviathan… (note: I will not be getting Leviathan immediately. I just don't have the relic levels).

[@nancyturner217]

What do you think is the best negotiator defensive setup? I usually go with snips, jka, ywing or rex, jka, ywing. Snips helps when they use malevolence but I find the rex comp more durable. I avoid setting fives in starting lineup on D dye to his AI's performance against malevolence but on offense I will start him

[@CalvinAwesome]

Rex or Ahsoka typically generates different problems for different comps. I do agree fives works against you, so just don't do that

[@cannibalraptor]

I use Rex over Fives in the starting lineup because of the old Malevolence and Negotiator meta. When I fought Negotiator with my Malevolence, if Fives was starting it was basically an auto win for me, because Fives would always target Vulture and give him turn meter (because Fives’ kit works that way for some reason) so Vulture would go next allowing me to get a good buff immunity on Anakin, then I could blitz him down and avoid the stealth from the saviour buff. Plus Rex in the start is more durable overall, I just hate that Fives gives the enemy turn meter

[@themoderndaygamer637]

I don’t know anything about fleets except I don’t have a great fleet roster it’s mid. So thank God you got this video out honestly

[@darthapocalypse190]

Are the ships in order of how you would call them in and which you would start with, or just pasted randomly?

[@CalvinAwesome]

Start with yes, reinforcements random

[@dwbryant13]

are dash and Katarn good on the home one fleet without prof? i havet those ships farmed and am gearing dash.

[@CalvinAwesome]

They're okay. Ultimately H1 just really wants Hans falcon.

[@dezkiziado666]

How does Negotiator works with the Marauder?

[@CalvinAwesome]

Very well?

[@iOnlySay]

in the home one fleet pre- profundity i used Han as reinforcment and Revan in the starting line-up! i think it´s the way to go now!

[@CalvinAwesome]

Now that's new. Is the idea to be tricky?

[@iOnlySay]

@@CalvinAwesome it gives first order much harder time on defense and it´s much more reliable vs negotiator. Han´s reinforcment abillity is a mass Swarm, gives everyone forsight (so they can ignore Taunt as long as Reven is there) and reduces Home ones cd so it can use his "mass Swarm" next turn. Try it out yourself! it´s really good!!

[@bomafett]

You mean Raven's claw starting, right? Not Revan, seeing as Revan doesn't have a ship.

[@iOnlySay]

@@bomafett yes

[@soulsawada328]

How important is the Ebon Hawk in the first order Finalizer fleet? Can the fleet hold its own even without this ship or is it essential for something? Also do you think the Home1 Rebel Fleet shown on the upper side of the list would be able to handle Hounds Tooth? Since you put the Rebel-Y-Wing so late wouldnt that make it super hard. Im having a lot of trouble even with weaker Hounds-Tooth fleets and im wondering if i put Y-Wing 4t if that would solve the problem.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Not super essential, it's to keep Executor from hitting contract mid battle. If RNG is in your favor with crits/bonus attacks you can kind of bulldoze without needing it. You can also lose with it because RNG goes too poorly. Ackbar beating HT? possibly, wedge has buff immunity

[@soulsawada328]

thanks for the answer. really appreciate it! :)@@CalvinAwesome

[@CalQdeX]

Now that Lev is out, can Empire still be split into two fleets? If so, what do they beat?

[@CalvinAwesome]

Yes and Profun/exec. Sith bomber isn't needed for thrawn to beat exec, you can run reaper in first as fodder

[@alexas5260]

I haven't lost against executor with my h1 yet, I actually only lost 1 ship in all the fights. It's so easy I can't even wrap my head around it. Usually I have around 100k gp less than executor, but I use bit different ships

[@iamthefrankto]

I feel your pain, CA. That Negotiator fleet can suck it. 100% the most consistent reason I don't full clear.

[@CalvinAwesome]

I hate it man

[@cannibalraptor]

It would be nice if they released Luke in the Red 5 which could make Ackbar useful with the leftover Rebels

[@timsonins]

Finally some use for farmboy Luke, HOPEfully

[@RecklessdvoTTV]

Akbar should get a big boost if they ever release rebel Luke X wing

[@bomafett]

Bold to release this with Leviathan just around the corner.

[@CalvinAwesome]

No better timing

[@VitaminD-123]

"Needs more Red 5 " LOL !

[@Asch519]

Doesn't Interceptor let you call a reinforcement in the 1st capital ship turn? I thought it did in which case you really don't need the B-28 bomber with the tie fighters, Defender can literally 1 ship the entire executor fleet. Seems inefficient of you to use the sith bomber there.

[@CalvinAwesome]

There's a little more to the counter than that. But there actually is a variation with reaper in the starting line up that can work.

[@StevenJQuinlan]

I'm shocked the Finaliser has a 50% win rate v Executor. Its my go to counter for it so I can do more interesting things with my Profundity in GAC.

[@CalvinAwesome]

That's data from this last season, I think it used to be more in the 60% range

[@failemotion]

It used to me my go to too. But I can't throw relics left and right, so those who get r9 piett or r7 cads, I started to struggle big time.

[@cykodrumz9070]

More players are using 3attacker defense to make the finalizer counter harder. …. But if you move shuttle to reinforcement and start sftp you can beat 3attacker exec alot easier. Either way if you know what you’re doing you can have much closer to 100% will rate. Finalizer beats everything except profundity on offense

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@cykodrumz9070 and is absolutely useless on defense. Always an easy decision for GAC!

[@sascharambeaud]

@@failemotion To somewhat reliably counter R9 Piett, the fleet needs Cassian's ship in reinforcements. A lot of people don't realize that.

[@merlila4214]

Hello! Thx for the video. I'am a relatively new player, 4 months in. I choose Profundity for my first big goal and I am on a good way. If I could get 4* profundity relatively soon, should I already use it or wait until i can get the full 7* potential?

[@CalvinAwesome]

4* is already really good.

[@klogott3462]

Fleet loadouts? Finally, inner Peace

[@CalvinAwesome]

Lol it's so nice man

[@ittoryu4690]

I know it’s not good for flexibility but if the Red 5 comes out, I hope for a passive of the type « at the beginning of the battle if the Admiral ship is Ackbar and there are Biggs and Wedges on the ground then...

[@CalvinAwesome]

I would not be entirely shocked if we get a red squadron tag for him

[@Justanotherconsumer]

I want Red 5 to be a total twist and be part of the Profundity fleet with Pedrin Gaul as a pilot.

[@colintrue]

Wow! Could not agree more - Negotiator on D will never NOT give me the heebee jeebees. I lost a GAC recently because I dropped a fleet battle to Negotiator, and it just reinforced what my heart knows - Negotiator will continue to randomly hand me my ass on a platter until the end of my days.

[@CalvinAwesome]

It's cause me so many issues. What bugs me more is how inconsistent it is

[@tomasmicak9041]

Finalizer wtf? Awesome counter to classic lineup of Executor, I am quite surprised people do not know how to use it, I have like 90% winrate with it.

[@CalvinAwesome]

It's pretty nuanced when it comes down to it. Solid if you have everything lined up just right and know all the ins and outs

[@PrimeForce]

The best rating system is easy: the fleet either has Gauntlet or it doesn't.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Truth

[@elliotmyers9071]

Why isn’t PvE taken into account? Ackbar does well in territory battles. Sure, more rebel ships are needed. It’s still a solid fleet.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Because they're all kind of alright there. Not huge variance between them all, and the points from fleet battles at least in ROTE are negligible

[@chocomog4000]

No it doesn't. It takes out p1 LS but not onwards

[@pnilrax2868]

Cause it’s pve and pve in any form of game is set standard with no opponent variation. Pvp has opponent variation. It’s like mmo raiders pretending pve is the same success as pvpers. Not very well detailed of an explanation but that would take quite awhile even if listened properly. If you know, you know. If you don’t you don’t. No in between

[@hk-4886]

Well I kind of disagree with finalizer. It destroys empire and ackbar and beats the usual executor lineup which is still pretty common comfortably. I agree with the placement though

[@CalvinAwesome]

I need to look into the empire one

[@gocubs239]

Wow, lots of comments for Finalizer for ONE specific counter. It's pure trash on D and IS NOT 100% vs Exec because no "off meta" counter is. It's rarely used otherwise and overall it's best used for cleanup imo. Also, the banners are rarely good except early game vs old school Ackbar.

[@meglobob9217]

Fleet loadouts, happy times!

[@CalvinAwesome]

It's a good day

[@static4111]

I use Finalizer to beat R9 executors (HT starting lineup) every day. I don't know what everyone else is doing wrong - It works like 90% of the time for me.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Probably having Hux R5, having the wrong starting line up, bringing in the wrong reinforcement, getting a bad dodge, or whatever else

[@static4111]

@@CalvinAwesome It is pretty finicky to nail down at first, especially with the Shuttle's skills. If you use the wrong one in the wrong order HT gets his taunt and it's pretty much over.

[@darthpuppee]

Now a few days after the Leviathan release, i have to say I am pretty disappointed. It can be beat easier than Exe or Profundity, and it released with more bugs than any capital ship before.

[@PlasticandRage]

Malevolence is so good. Easily my favorite fleet. They're fun to use and they can beat a lot of important stuff. They've been clutch taking down the new empire fleet for me.

[@CalvinAwesome]

It's probably my favorite from an enjoyment stand point

[@PlasticandRage]

@CalvinAwesome totally agree. I want to like the finalizer but they just let me down over and over. My guildmates talk a good game about it but the margin for error is just so large. Had a match a few weeks ago where my kru missed like 7 attacks in a row. Those misses seem to hit me consistently. Just nothing you can do about it. The game decides you lost and that's that.

[@nancyturner217]

I just find it gets horrible banners in victory

[@PlasticandRage]

@nancyturner217 most of my fleet battles are win or lose. Banners are nice, but a win is what I need. I have 6 fleets. Need 3 to win on the first shot to full clear.

[@nancyturner217]

Woops guess I should watch the videos before commenting you literally mentioned the poor banners lol my bad

[@bobojo6447]

Instead of “GL” capital ships, they should add normal “GL” ships to support existing fleets

[@wnapolitan1773]

In resistance lineup swap Falcon and second x-wing, use Falcon as a first reinforcement, use first special, and on it's next turn annihilate opponent's fleet with second special. But i guess thanks to all players who use it as a defensive fleet - they just gifted me a basically free win on fleets.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Ooo what fleets is that strat beating?

[@wnapolitan1773]

@@CalvinAwesome I used to beat Executor with that comp, like, a year and a half ago. It actually was a two-shot counter, as i firstly sent trash-fleet to just increase enemy's cooldowns. One-shot worked only on 4-star Executors, which were pretty common back then. This is also capable of beating non-ideal Negotiator lineups, sometimes First Order, and as you said, really good for clean-ups. At least from my experience

[@Justanotherconsumer]

I totally expect a Raddus lifter that is the off-meta counter to the Leviathan fleet.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Finalizer is still great against Executor. Maybe not in Kyber, but at lower ranks it’s still my go to Executor crusher with a 90+% win rate if not triple attacker.

[@ruibarian5187]

That's kind of like saying, "I'm actually really good at boxing when I'm only fighting toddlers." It might be true, but it's not really an effective way to examine different boxing techniques.

[@slayinalive2621]

​@@ruibarian5187Hey I'm the undefeated champ at the preschool my man

[@chocomog4000]

Ravens claw is such a bust. I've never been able to beat anything that isn't clean up with it

[@CalvinAwesome]

It seems like one piece to a much larger puzzle

[@bobbybuckets3061]

I actually have decent success with Malevolence as my main Profundity counter. Still has RNG though.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Any tips?

[@bobbybuckets3061]

@@CalvinAwesome yeah I use Spy as the starter instead of Sun Fac. You want to have 3 stacks of buzz droids on Y Wing and have spy survive the opening onslaught. Once spy goes, you use his swarm special and if you take out Y Wing, you are basically golden to win or have a very easy cleanup. I got the idea from BitDynasty

[@bobbybuckets3061]

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[@friezasama8860]

i don't have fleet load-outs its still the same way for me whats going on?

[@CalvinAwesome]

You're probably just missing the update

[@Xinperor]

update your game

[@grzegorzwilk7448]

Watch the Gerbil, you can have 2 Rebel fleets that kick ass :) Just keep Falcon with Home One

[@CalvinAwesome]

....I'm actually very against the split, unnecessarily opens up other counters

[@grzegorzwilk7448]

@CalvinAwesome Ha But you use them both for offense ;)

[@Deadpool-ts3tq]

Whaaaat, finalizer is my go to counter against Executor, I almost never lose against it lol

[@PorgBo]

Oh god, this aged like milk.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Lol which part? Levi even without the incoming buffs has the highest defense rating of any fleet

[@zombefyer2.047]

Separatist Ships that shoud join the roster: 1. HMP Droid Gunship 2. Droid Tri-Fighter 3. Geonosian Solar Sailor (Pilot: Count Dooku) 4. Givinex-class Fanblade Starfighter (Pilot: Asajj Ventress) 5. MagnaGuard Starfighter (Pilot: IG-100 MagnaGuard) 6. Invincible (Capital Ship (Crew: Admiral Trench))

[@zombefyer2.047]

Invincible Kit CREW: Admiral Trench Dark Side, Capital Ship, Separatist Attacks and Abilities Heavy Cannons- Basic: Deal Physical Damage to target enemy and inflict Target Lock for 2 turns. Target Lock: Inflicts Evasion Down for 2 turns and this attack can't be Evaded. Tracking Torpedoes- Special 1 (Cooldown: 3): Dispel Stealth from al Stealthed enemies and inflict Expose and Target Lock on them for 2 turns, which can't be resisted. Then deal Physical damage to target enemy and all other Target Locked enemies. This attack can't be evaded. Hyena Bombing Run- Special 2 (Cooldown: 3): Deal Special Damage to all enemies and place 2 Concussion Mines on them. Target Lock: Increase duration of Target Lock by 1 turn and place an additional Concussion Mine on them. Thermal Shields- Ultimate (Cooldown: 5): Dispel all debuffs from all allies, recover 30% of their Health and 60% of their Protection, and grant them Tenacity Up and Damage Immunity for 2 turns, which can't be prevented. This ability starts on cooldown. The Smell of Fear- Crew: Target Locked enemies can't gain Stealth. Whenever the Invincible uses a Special ability, all allies gain 10% Turn Meter, doubled for Separatist allies, and a random enemy suffers Fear for 1 turn, which can't be evaded. Whenever a Separatist ally attacks a Target Locked enemy during their turn, they inflict Tenacity Down for 1 turn, which can't be evaded, and the Invincible gains 5% Turn Meter. Reinforcement Bonus: Reinforcements gain Critical Hit Immunity and Accuracy Up for 3 turns. Basically, a defensive alternative to the Malevolence

[@hyperspacecowboy2905]

I mainly clicked to see how you got to 10 fleets

[@CalvinAwesome]

Straight up didn't have a single ship leftover

[@paperboy856]

Off topic but wow cls needed for (Jedi luke) never new how much Luke needed for gl Jabba Jabba galactic legend Kenobi..... Jedi luke and CLS branch off to so many different teams

[@runegamingyt]

Finalizer absolutely dominates exec people just don’t know how to do the battle I never have problems against full relic pilots

[@CalvinAwesome]

That's kind of the issue though, while the counter has it's place. Being extremely nuanced and or conditional doesn't bode well for an overall ranking like this.

[@runegamingyt]

@@CalvinAwesome gotcha, i just think if more people practiced then the win rates would rise

[@brillcouncil4584]

I agree, FO is an AWFUL fleet and often used to justify slk first as a GL. It's great if it's your first COMPLETE fleet but it's an awful fleet if you have others on this list.

[@BodiaKlich]

thanks

[@CalvinAwesome]

Sure

[@uhmnameplease]

what do you mean top 10? there are but only 10 fleets in swgoh lol

[@CalvinAwesome]

Lol that's what I meant

[@uhmnameplease]

@@CalvinAwesome ah! makes more sense thx

[@ruibarian5187]

Before watching, I predict: Mace is dead last, Raddus is way lower than it deserves, Finalizer is too high.

[@ruibarian5187]

lmao, Mace didn't even make the list. Ouch. Raddus... I think it's probably better than Finalizer just because it gets a 6% hold rate on defense compared to Finalizer's 5.5% hold rate, and it has a trick to play. It's also usable to kill Malevolence on offense, so it does have *some* offensive viability even though it's rarely going to need to come out since it's far from a "top 6" fleet, which is all we ever need in GAC.

[@CalvinAwesome]

Lol yeah Mace has literally 0 ships, so can't be a fleet.

[@roryhogan6564]

Win wates

[@CalvinAwesome]

Lol words are hard for me

[@joesetterfield9684]

Negotiator overrated and Malevolence underrated for me

[@CalvinAwesome]

Probably some bias for Nego for sure

[@DannyDL1ght]

Worst fleet is endurance

[@CalvinAwesome]

It doesn't even get 1 ship