Top Thrill 2 Front Seat POV 2024 Full HD Cedar Point

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James C

James C

Күн бұрын

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@Coastainment
@Coastainment 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving us the awesome povs throughout the years!
@cpellercpeller5463
@cpellercpeller5463 9 ай бұрын
The up-to-down Spike transition is a savory experience. The run up, over & down the Top Hat is faster & more intense than Dragster. Especially the twist going down. The increased speed coupled with higher seating really flings you around! A more intense "bottoming out" too. Fun Times!
@Beanieweenies89
@Beanieweenies89 9 ай бұрын
Gets over that top hat fast wow
@elzzihsob
@elzzihsob 9 ай бұрын
judging by the wind noise, this ride is nuts
@jdivergh22
@jdivergh22 9 ай бұрын
It really is an epic coaster. I've rode it three times so far. Going back tomorrow for another ride or two at the very least. This highly exceeded my expectations!
@Buddyclub33
@Buddyclub33 9 ай бұрын
James C never disappoints!
@Coastainment
@Coastainment 9 ай бұрын
Facts
@Redbandit622
@Redbandit622 9 ай бұрын
@@Coastainment mhm
@lynndemartini9379
@lynndemartini9379 9 ай бұрын
Must of watched at least 20 TT2 povs and this IS the best one! Excellent!!
@nightsweats810
@nightsweats810 9 ай бұрын
Who is James C
@derekwhite9932
@derekwhite9932 8 ай бұрын
​@@nightsweats810 that's my joke lol
@HockeyGUY66871
@HockeyGUY66871 9 ай бұрын
This is a massive improvement over the original. It now feels like a complete ride.
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 9 ай бұрын
I completely agree
@patrickthorn653
@patrickthorn653 8 ай бұрын
I still wish it were longer
@AngeloGiles
@AngeloGiles 9 ай бұрын
This was the pov I’ve been wanting to see lol, the seats look so comfortable! At 2:35 I burst out laughing lmao, great reaction, can’t wait to ride this!
@willwill1289
@willwill1289 10 күн бұрын
This is probably the best views ...the way they flew backwards while waiting was amazing
@jonjon7311
@jonjon7311 8 ай бұрын
Going backwards and up so high…The hang ! … must be simply breathtaking. ❤
@rollercoasterdj
@rollercoasterdj 9 ай бұрын
Classic James C W Also it seems you go pretty high on that rollback
@williamevansjr7562
@williamevansjr7562 9 ай бұрын
Classic Cedar Point 😊
@Vandy242000
@Vandy242000 8 ай бұрын
I’m most pumped for the reverse launch! The air time on the spike looks wild and that train rips over the top hat. Excited to get down there
@patrickstrahm05
@patrickstrahm05 8 ай бұрын
Yeah when you are in the back you float for like 10 seconds going up and down
@aaronswords404
@aaronswords404 9 ай бұрын
I'm still surprised at how this thing flies over the top hat. I am assuming you get some ejector when it hits the top.
@kd9lac803
@kd9lac803 8 ай бұрын
Can confirm, you find yourself being particularly thankful for the restraint on this one
@jjgillmen
@jjgillmen 8 ай бұрын
With this re-do of the original Top Thrill Dragster, one can argue that Zamperla has become a legit coaster manufacturer that can be more than just wild mice or flat rides.
@kd9lac803
@kd9lac803 7 ай бұрын
This aged well lol
@interestingthings347
@interestingthings347 4 ай бұрын
hate to break it ya
@sequanpayton3748
@sequanpayton3748 9 ай бұрын
The engineers at Zamperla are somewhere laughing because everyone thought they couldn’t pull it off 💯
@andersonsoarescavalcante743
@andersonsoarescavalcante743 9 ай бұрын
Let’s see now how long it’s gonna be open until it breaks again.
@Thatonerandomguy1331
@Thatonerandomguy1331 9 ай бұрын
@@andersonsoarescavalcante743it isnt intamin anymore my guy 😂
@Feuerfr3i
@Feuerfr3i 9 ай бұрын
Who ever thought that when they announced their new Lightning trains prior and talked of the speeds they can do?
@andersonsoarescavalcante743
@andersonsoarescavalcante743 8 ай бұрын
@@Thatonerandomguy1331 Hello. I just got back to say that it’s closed. Zamperla closed it. 😂😂😂
@andersonsoarescavalcante743
@andersonsoarescavalcante743 8 ай бұрын
It literally lasted 10 days after my comment. 😂😂😂
@slide50t
@slide50t 8 ай бұрын
Someone said.....WTF!😅.....LMAO😂
@raplyricsyt
@raplyricsyt 8 ай бұрын
Lake ErrIeee
@TivonaYisrael
@TivonaYisrael 8 ай бұрын
😂😂
@dreams2reality410
@dreams2reality410 9 ай бұрын
At what point do all us haters tell Zamperla we were wrong? I will admit that I was definitely one of them in the beginning. Didn't think they could pull it off. My trip is booked for the 3rd week of August. If TT2 has gone all summer without any real issues and we get to tear it up for the 3 days we are in town. My brother and I vowed to both hand write a letter of apology to the team at Zamperla.
@TexKP
@TexKP 9 ай бұрын
I could honestly say I had no doubts until all the public concern started building up. Whether or not they’re new to this size ride, the technology is tried and true. All the operational issues that plagued the wild mouse seem to be an aspect no matter what size the ride is. One could even argue that the wild mouse is more complex due to the number of cars running at once.
@JoeyH-sb3fq
@JoeyH-sb3fq 9 ай бұрын
Don't jinx it MF
@stephenlee1664
@stephenlee1664 8 ай бұрын
Considering the ride is under extended closure and requires modification maybe the haters were right if this continues to be an issue.
@Electric301
@Electric301 8 ай бұрын
Yeaaaahhhh about that
@anobject9622
@anobject9622 4 ай бұрын
guess there aint gonna be any handwritten letters at the zamperla office any time soon
@tractorgt
@tractorgt 9 ай бұрын
Excellent as always sir! 👍
@gabrielad.1886
@gabrielad.1886 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely insane!
@Coaster_Joe
@Coaster_Joe 9 ай бұрын
And he’s back!!
@angelogarofalo4138
@angelogarofalo4138 9 ай бұрын
best povs on youtube keep it up
@InsaneCoasterPOVS
@InsaneCoasterPOVS 9 ай бұрын
I will ride this awesome coaster one day!
@elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214
@elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214 9 ай бұрын
Me too.
@WildMorgan
@WildMorgan 8 ай бұрын
Closed indefinitely 😂
@KingRCT3
@KingRCT3 9 ай бұрын
Amazing POV thank you! Do you think you can do one from the backseat? I'm so curious!
@jacscar3536
@jacscar3536 9 ай бұрын
So pumped to ride it!!!!!
@LexieMediaTransit8516
@LexieMediaTransit8516 8 ай бұрын
Wow so the rollback is now intentional, that’s cool!
@moonbaseryan
@moonbaseryan 9 ай бұрын
Even the camera is graying out a little bit XD nice vid
@Metal_Groove45
@Metal_Groove45 9 ай бұрын
I rode it today! It was amazing!
@DonWilsonSr.
@DonWilsonSr. 9 ай бұрын
What do you think is the best version ttd or ttd2
@Metal_Groove45
@Metal_Groove45 9 ай бұрын
​@DonWilsonSr. The new one all the way! The extra ride time and more reliability alone makes it superior! We'll see how much it breaks down when it opens next Saturday to the public.
@KimStucky
@KimStucky 9 ай бұрын
@@Metal_Groove45Unfortunately the forecast calls for rain, so don’t think opening weekend is gonna be very good.
@economicfusion6065
@economicfusion6065 9 ай бұрын
Weather turned out great for opening weekend. I rode it and it is insane
@KimStucky
@KimStucky 9 ай бұрын
@@economicfusion6065 Awesome! I’m more towards Cleveland and it was pretty overcast with some rain so I wasn’t sure
@rctcreations9121
@rctcreations9121 9 ай бұрын
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Best POV's on KZbin!
@lulashepard3253
@lulashepard3253 9 ай бұрын
Looks like a fun ride. It was a very good idea to include a rollback as part of the design, since the accidental ones were so popular. I always enjoy your videos, James C.
@SamApocalypse
@SamApocalypse 9 ай бұрын
Yeah but rollbacks are cool if you go down backwards from the top hat, that is not the same 😂
@lulashepard3253
@lulashepard3253 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, it doesn’t quite make it all the way to top before the rollback, but it still looks pretty good.
@beatmasterbossy
@beatmasterbossy 7 ай бұрын
I got to ride top thrill OG not long before they shut it down There's nothing like that acceleration, it's awesome.
@bubblecheese2506
@bubblecheese2506 4 ай бұрын
Love Cedar Point
@beatmasterbossy
@beatmasterbossy 7 ай бұрын
The amount of time the other train was out of view on the top hat is wild.
@SacredRealmOfficial
@SacredRealmOfficial 9 ай бұрын
Wednesday for us! I can’t wait!
@DonWilsonSr.
@DonWilsonSr. 9 ай бұрын
I would like your honest opinion about the ride and which one do you think is best ttd or ttd2???
@SacredRealmOfficial
@SacredRealmOfficial 9 ай бұрын
@@DonWilsonSr. I’ll let you know Wednesday! I’m thinking of doing a review on my channel for it
@mpa1931
@mpa1931 8 ай бұрын
I'm from NJ and I think Kingda Ka is due for a change like this. This looks amazing
@bman2217
@bman2217 9 ай бұрын
That line is loooong
@teganlesjak3735
@teganlesjak3735 9 ай бұрын
It always was🤣
@jpsoles
@jpsoles 9 ай бұрын
The wait to get through the metal detectors was longer than the wait itself today at Prestige preview.
@protowave
@protowave 9 ай бұрын
with half the trains, more than triple the cycle time, multiple periods of downtime, the "pay for lockers to ride" safety policy, and metal detectors that malfunction when the train launches... yeah, it's gonna be a long line forever. but hey, it'll clear up the lines at other coasters.
@bman2217
@bman2217 9 ай бұрын
@@protowave cedar point rides are always long right when the ride opens, and this is no different. The hourly capacity isn’t even that much worse than ttd, and assuming it doesn’t break down for full weeks, it will be an improvement.
@protowave
@protowave 9 ай бұрын
@@bman2217 it broke down 3 times on media day lol
@DanielRogers-ud8pc
@DanielRogers-ud8pc 9 ай бұрын
It’s just crazy that Zamperla made this
@dr.dylan123
@dr.dylan123 9 ай бұрын
I mean they didn't design any of the top hat or supports, can't give them all the credit. Its a collab with intamin
@scruffypupper
@scruffypupper 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. My curiosity is satisfied. I will never get on this.
@MrBetaKiller100
@MrBetaKiller100 9 ай бұрын
A little note: TT2 seems to dispatch in 90 seconds here, at that rate it has a real capacity of 800 people per hour. I hope as the crew gets used to running the ride this increases. If trains can dispatch on the holding track to the transfer while a train is on the course the capacity should be able to increase.
@shanesteinz2875
@shanesteinz2875 9 ай бұрын
Was there today and they are able to load 2 cars at a time while the 3rd is transferring to runway.. It also takes them half the time to load and secure each train vs the old cars..
@JAXXNCREATED
@JAXXNCREATED 9 ай бұрын
love a james c pov 🔥
@Lucky_9705
@Lucky_9705 8 ай бұрын
I wish the launch was faster, but the ejector over the top hat and the spike makes up for it
@travisvanalst4698
@travisvanalst4698 9 ай бұрын
I miss the old loading station.
@LunaPawzOffical
@LunaPawzOffical 8 ай бұрын
When the dude when what the f**k I burst out in laughter 😂😂😂 LMFAO ❤
@teddym2808
@teddym2808 9 ай бұрын
I was there last year so of course it wasn't open yet, so I am really looking forward to the spike in the back seat next year when I come back to USA for Universal's new park opening and will also do my favourite parks like I always do starting from Florida with a hire car and driving north then east then south and dumping car in LA to fly home (but I might actually do it differently this time and try the Dallas to Sydney flight and just miss California altogether). However, I will say, from a coaster enthusiast's point of view, I do understand why they couldn't add an air time hump after the top hat as they just didn't have enough room, but I wish they adjusted the launch to have a camelback instead, as some new coasters are doing. I think having a wild airtime hump both forwards and backwards during the launch would have truly made it a complete ride, but, it's still way better than it ever was now, despite the launch being a lot less powerful.
@bigguy4u989
@bigguy4u989 8 ай бұрын
chad move keeping the lap bar
@Calakapepe
@Calakapepe 9 ай бұрын
Can always count on James C to get POVs where there's no loose articles allowed.. need to get you to Phantasialand for F.L.Y.
@ChessCapital
@ChessCapital 9 ай бұрын
It looks like you fly over the top hat holy crap
@HockeyGUY66871
@HockeyGUY66871 9 ай бұрын
Its my number 10 overall of my 192 credits. My number 2 at the park.
@Themeparkfan630
@Themeparkfan630 9 ай бұрын
That just makes me even for excited to go. Also what's your number one at the park?
@HockeyGUY66871
@HockeyGUY66871 9 ай бұрын
@@Themeparkfan630 Steel Vengeance which is also my No. 1 overall
@Themeparkfan630
@Themeparkfan630 9 ай бұрын
@@HockeyGUY66871 definitely I'll make that my number 1 once I ride it
@AbbyAuerbach
@AbbyAuerbach 8 ай бұрын
My friend went on it before it shut down and I was just at cedar point when they told me it was gonna be shut down for a while I went on all the other rides but I was looking forward to going on this one 😭😭
@GregSkinner
@GregSkinner 8 ай бұрын
i was Terrified the whole time riding this lol
@adamdragster
@adamdragster 9 ай бұрын
Top Thrill Dragster was my favorite coaster of all time and now Top Thrill 2 is taking the crown! She’s back and better than ever!
@micahwest3790
@micahwest3790 8 ай бұрын
The what the f*** had me dying
@RustybeltRC
@RustybeltRC 8 ай бұрын
Lake Erie!
@xoxoxoxoxo7997
@xoxoxoxoxo7997 6 ай бұрын
Awesome
@bmezay2003
@bmezay2003 9 ай бұрын
Shoulda kept the voice “Arms down head back and hold on” sequence
@Theme_parchive
@Theme_parchive 9 ай бұрын
That would’ve been cool if they did but my guess is they don’t need it because the initial launch isn’t intense enough on the acceleration to dislocate your shoulder anymore lol
@LexieMediaTransit8516
@LexieMediaTransit8516 8 ай бұрын
0:54 wow a rollback!
@Max_zmr
@Max_zmr 9 ай бұрын
Nice Video. Is the Ride Smooth?
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 9 ай бұрын
Yes, it is
@Max_zmr
@Max_zmr 9 ай бұрын
@@biggdave104 happy to her that a coaster of such a unique company is so good.
@BlotRorschach
@BlotRorschach 9 ай бұрын
How fast is it taking the apex of that top hat? Looks like the most serious bit of sustained ejector air on any coaster.
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 9 ай бұрын
It definitely seems way faster over the top than it used to be
@sandyann9606
@sandyann9606 9 ай бұрын
Looks like a GREAT ride, but so short 😢
@IndevAlex
@IndevAlex 8 ай бұрын
What? The original Top Thrill Dragster was even shorter
@greatdayadventure_
@greatdayadventure_ 9 ай бұрын
Love the video! What camera did you film this with?
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 9 ай бұрын
GoPro
@petrawolff5641
@petrawolff5641 9 ай бұрын
Wow super leuke mooie achtbaan❤😅😊
@lynndemartini9379
@lynndemartini9379 9 ай бұрын
Excellent Pov!!!
@wolfnonys550
@wolfnonys550 8 ай бұрын
Looks good
@ItsNoelMulkey
@ItsNoelMulkey 8 ай бұрын
What’s the coaster right next to it? The orange and red one?
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 8 ай бұрын
Iron Dragon
@Sokobansolver
@Sokobansolver 9 ай бұрын
2:53 yeet moment
@AirtimeAxolotl
@AirtimeAxolotl 9 ай бұрын
yeet
@SwimmerBrody13
@SwimmerBrody13 8 ай бұрын
We came for 2 days and it was closed :(
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 8 ай бұрын
☹️
@jacobhodge146
@jacobhodge146 9 ай бұрын
Is this go pro chest mounted recorded
@TJ85234
@TJ85234 9 ай бұрын
Most likely video glasses, I just got a back row POV I'm uploading to our vlog channel. Mines more about reaction though and not so much looking forward
@plushblueep
@plushblueep 7 ай бұрын
I’m a bit disappointed that they closed the ride down *_right after they just opened it._*
@EOSProductions394
@EOSProductions394 9 ай бұрын
How fast did the line move after the metal detectors?
@OfficialEthanStillCodes
@OfficialEthanStillCodes 9 ай бұрын
At a decent speed, but you don’t fully know until opening day.
@stephenweiss4019
@stephenweiss4019 9 ай бұрын
Awesome! I just don't like heights.
@KingGamingRoblox
@KingGamingRoblox 9 ай бұрын
That looks like it flew over the top hat
@sprawlz6466
@sprawlz6466 9 ай бұрын
is it still smooth?
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 9 ай бұрын
Yes
@ThomasWhite-t6t
@ThomasWhite-t6t 8 ай бұрын
In a scale of 1-10. How intense is it? Looks absolutely nuts to me. Not sure if I could do it or not.
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 8 ай бұрын
The initial launch is a 6-10 but overall I’d give the intensity a 9
@rucray7870
@rucray7870 9 ай бұрын
The guy that say I like it more ... no shit, it's the same ride it just has more.....
@GazRsExtremeBrickMachines
@GazRsExtremeBrickMachines 8 ай бұрын
It’s a far better ride in my opinion but not as an intense launch. Some people crave intensity and I heard a few others mentioned they preferred it before. Everyone’s different, no one’s right or wrong
@need_more_nanocoasters304
@need_more_nanocoasters304 9 ай бұрын
Do you have a pov of Wild Mouse?
@Harrypotter557
@Harrypotter557 9 ай бұрын
Forget ttd, This looks better! Either way solid W. Even the launch music is nice
@Adrians_films
@Adrians_films 9 ай бұрын
Sorry, you’re incorrect
@bmezay2003
@bmezay2003 9 ай бұрын
not better but nice
@The_Meowful
@The_Meowful 9 ай бұрын
Dang these 2 are saying it's not but like 98% of the people say it is💩
@bmezay2003
@bmezay2003 9 ай бұрын
@@The_MeowfulLaunch and name a big downgrade
@c-tha-man9463
@c-tha-man9463 9 ай бұрын
@@The_Meowful It is. It's a better enjoyable experience. Never really cared much, for the original. Always thought Storm Runner was the best hydraulic launch.
@sequanpayton3748
@sequanpayton3748 9 ай бұрын
Not going to break due to new technology. No more hydraulic pumps to fix! Just regular TPM’s and maintenance checks. I can relate because I’m in that field’ 👀
@WildMorgan
@WildMorgan 8 ай бұрын
😂😂 This aged well
@aktchungrabanio6467
@aktchungrabanio6467 8 ай бұрын
LMFAO!!! clown face much?
@nandoginkaku7610
@nandoginkaku7610 7 ай бұрын
My only complaint is how short the ride is. Impressive engineering though
@FalsyFlags
@FalsyFlags Күн бұрын
Gotta go fast
@chrisroode
@chrisroode 7 ай бұрын
Well, good to know too thrill won’t self destruct like Kingda Ka did with their cable launch…
@thecoasterman682
@thecoasterman682 9 ай бұрын
Why do you always take it so long?
@TMACOHIO
@TMACOHIO 9 ай бұрын
Fast dispatches!
@dzrewn1
@dzrewn1 9 ай бұрын
They should have made it break 500 feet…. That would be insane!!!
@Cicloconvintone
@Cicloconvintone 9 ай бұрын
Made in Italy!
@Gurglewaterguy
@Gurglewaterguy 9 ай бұрын
2:36
@fredericklockard3854
@fredericklockard3854 9 ай бұрын
Looks great but it looks like 1 coaster launch every 3 or so minutes? The lines gonna be worse than ever.
@definingimage
@definingimage 9 ай бұрын
Dispatch times have got to be horrible. This has to be a sub 1,000 an hour capacity
@HeavyShowsNYC
@HeavyShowsNYC 9 ай бұрын
Why did you expect it to be higher?
@definingimage
@definingimage 9 ай бұрын
@@HeavyShowsNYC just odd for a park to not have a major ride around 1500
@HeavyShowsNYC
@HeavyShowsNYC 9 ай бұрын
@@definingimagewell they had a major issue with it a few years ago, they didn’t want to dismantle it. What did you expect them to do with it other than add a spire and turn it into the only Other thing they could turn it into?
@TJ85234
@TJ85234 9 ай бұрын
I believe it holds 20 people and dispatches around 90 seconds. Your right with about 800 per hour. Line moved okay, either way was worth it!
@Dridgeism
@Dridgeism 8 ай бұрын
Feel like it's top speed has to be over 120 now? It's treating the top hat like an airtime hill now 😆
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 8 ай бұрын
It definitely felt like it was going faster over the top
@latashayoung6578
@latashayoung6578 9 ай бұрын
Tee tee!!!!!
@CrazyManhog
@CrazyManhog 9 ай бұрын
From what i am hearing they didnt like the new launch
@KimStucky
@KimStucky 9 ай бұрын
That’s because coaster enthusiasts gotta complain about something. “Oh the first launch is so weak….I’m gonna miss the 120 hydraulic launch….blah blah blah”. The first launch can’t exactly hit top speed because it isn’t going over the top hat. Not sure why that’s such a hard concept to grasp.
@OfficialEthanStillCodes
@OfficialEthanStillCodes 9 ай бұрын
I’m a coaster enthusiast myself, the first launch was ehh. But the rest of the ride is where it cooks, that made the ride amazing for me.
@KimStucky
@KimStucky 9 ай бұрын
@@OfficialEthanStillCodes See I get that - considering it’s only 70 some miles per hour compared to the original. But, it really can’t be like the original. The ride has a new layout and comparing 1 launch out of 3 to a ride that only ever had 1 seems so weird to me.
@Harrisonshaunts
@Harrisonshaunts 7 ай бұрын
It was closed when I went 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@gg2847
@gg2847 7 ай бұрын
It’s been closed for repairs since the beginning of the summer, brand new ride and they already have problems 😐 still haven’t gotten to ride
@patrickthorn653
@patrickthorn653 8 ай бұрын
They could've done a better job with the sound effects. What kind of racecar is this?
@biggdave104
@biggdave104 8 ай бұрын
Indy
@Luv2BeLDS97
@Luv2BeLDS97 9 ай бұрын
Make it faster :)
@aktchungrabanio6467
@aktchungrabanio6467 8 ай бұрын
Aaaaaaaand its closed!! INDEFINITELY!! looooooooooololololoolololololololololololo
@chelseafn104
@chelseafn104 9 ай бұрын
When did you go?
@jdubdoubleu
@jdubdoubleu 9 ай бұрын
"what the f-u-ck!" I know exactly what you're thinking: what lunatic designed this thing and why is my crazy ass on it? 😄
@RustybeltRC
@RustybeltRC 9 ай бұрын
Lake Erie!!
@idaarseni4304
@idaarseni4304 9 ай бұрын
Bisogna farsi un ecocardio prima di andare là sopra
@elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214
@elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214 9 ай бұрын
Of course.
@Jaxxx365
@Jaxxx365 9 ай бұрын
Looks very shakey
@economicfusion6065
@economicfusion6065 9 ай бұрын
It is
@triangulism
@triangulism 9 ай бұрын
SHES ALIVE
@TheBroz
@TheBroz 8 ай бұрын
Aaand it’s broken
@callowbastard11
@callowbastard11 8 ай бұрын
Ouch😢-undetermined length of time for mechanical maintenance
@stephanieeiche6774
@stephanieeiche6774 7 ай бұрын
They should've stuck with the original design.
@gg2847
@gg2847 7 ай бұрын
The original launch system that the old dragster used (that had a piece of it fly off the train and nearly kill a woman) accelerated the trains much faster than the new system they put in, so they had to make it a swing launch to account for the lost speed. There’s other types of launches that are as quick that they could’ve put in but they tend to have mechanical issues and lots of downtime just like the old Dragster did so i imagine they didn’t want a repeat of that
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