Top Tier USA Is Pain💀

[@PopThunder]

Here is my discord server :discord.gg/USeZ7fGu , Feel free to join

[@sarminder4357]

Russian, Germany and China: hiveminds focusing on you and playing as a team USA: everyone for themselves

[@jettblack9696]

When ever I play top tier USA ground I say 95% of the time I die to planes and never tanks

[@wenbjiang9534]

Does not us have the best cas?

[@endloro6012]

same in germany

[@MikaelLonely]

Pretty much everyone when playing top tier

[@troy_pl1138]

@@wenbjiang9534 US has agm65 maverick... 0.9 mach and 8km max useable range... Russia has kh38mt 2.2 mach and 11-14km range (safety from nato SAM) and KH29TD 10+ range and 1.8 mach (also safety from sam) xd That's the balance on top tiers

[@wenbjiang9534]

@@troy_pl1138 very balanced I see Gaijin really need to fix CAS, it is too toxic

[@cabbageashthe1st594]

Remember, the worst thing about America is your teammates. I've seen more E-100s than good US top-tier teammates (defiantly not skewed because my friend has an E-100)

[@MrBigblacksock]

bs

[@sterlingalcorn4525]

When I. Die to an Abram I’m not even mad cause i know your pain, Russia main here.

[@ryanrautenberg6092]

As an american main, I don't even mind facing russain tanks, their easy to kill if you place your shot wisely. But with the new top tier cas the adats is more-or-less a anti helicopter vehicle since most fixed wings are always out of its effective range. What I don't understand though is why do other nations not struggle as well since they all have some sort of top tier premium?

[@laferrarigamer8511]

​@@ryanrautenberg6092becaue people go to usa thinking its gonna be the best nation in game

[@isaquesevero4369]

Just bump the SP cost of planes, since gaijin really doesn´t want a tank only mode, a SU 24 or a F15E sould cost 1200SP at least imo.

[@vitordanielvitor9194]

Maybe trying to encourage players to play AA, I realized that in most of my games there are only 1 or 3 people playing AA.

[@장호현-w5y]

SPAA to

[@jesseburson]

@@vitordanielvitor9194 at least effectively. most of them use gepards to rape tanks lol

[@lfotzblitz7436]

@@vitordanielvitor9194 For that to work, every nation would need a SPAA on par with the pantsir. Or at least add CRAM capable AAs to shoot the ordonance out of the sky, if the planes are too far away to engage.

[@squidy4082]

Facts, cas is broken

[@ChaosKoda]

"JuSt USe tHE F-15E AnD YOur WinRAtes WiLL gO uP" Bruh by the time you can get into a jet the whole team is dead already an a 2S38 is giving free prostate exams in your spawn.

[@DrClef_1]

If you struggle against 2S38 I got no words for ya pal

[@thatoneguy1741]

@@DrClef_1so we just gonna refuse to acknowledge the fact that a 2S38 penned an Abram’s through the turret face 💀

[@DrClef_1]

@thatoneguy1741 turret face or turret ring

[@Skillot888]

I main America, and I am 3 tanks away from the sep v2, and I’d say that most of the times I die is because of a Russian or German plane that sniped me with a atgm from Narnia

[@jesseburson]

ka-50 for me

[@tchillin-5017]

Most of German planes don't even have atgms

[@hank017chang6]

i full the usa and adats is shit, lavad is better

[@blankwyvern9165]

If this what you call suffering I must being subjected to the worst torture imaginable then.

[@e500coupe]

Top tier us needs a better spaa

[@Erdie457]

Italy needs a better spaa

[@troy_pl1138]

@@Erdie457 Actually itatlian spaa is better than SAM Adats in us tech tree XDDD

[@brunorodrigues5718]

​@@troy_pl1138It is NOT lmao. The ADATS shits on the otomanic

[@Erdie457]

@@brunorodrigues5718 The adats is ground capable whit a decent air capability while the oromatic has no ammo meh apdsfs whit little to no aa use

[@aflyingcowboy31]

​@@Erdie457meh APFSDS? It better than what the hstvl gets.....

[@zd3kuz555]

2:47 german standoff

[@leonidas231]

gotta love the anti US bias in this game

[@dxgeneration1222]

its not anti us bias. its the incapability of us players mate. i love top tier usa but the lvl 40 aim and clickbait mains who leave after one death are causing the issues. the only thing us lacks is a good spaa. or at least a spaa that is on par with the pantsir. other than that sepv2 f15e f16c hstv-l etc. are really really capable tanks/aircraft

[@leonidas231]

@dxgeneration1222 by your logic all factions with premium tanks should fail, but that's not the case

[@dxgeneration1222]

@@leonidas231 just compare the sheer amount of premium us players and the rest. I guarantee you at least 40% of new players pick usa as a first Nation Because of hollywood etc.

[@leonidas231]

@@dxgeneration1222 im seeing lvl 100s go 0-4 more than the 1 and dones.... so its def not just clickbaits

[@jobin45-27]

@@leonidas231 can confirm i was playing US while my brother was playing germany, in 4 games i maybe went 3-12 and i gave up, switched to germany and first game when 10-0 with 1 cap and 1 assist lol.

[@alegogo2911]

Me as a USA top tier enjoyer ive mastered the art of "barely keeping it together"

[@ТимофейИльин-ф3с]

oh yeah, old format, i liked it, love u

[@oberthepioneer]

Man, remember those days when the US top tier dominated the skies? How the turntables...

[@boat5138441]

They still do, if the team is good enough to spawn air and then knows how to play top-tier CAS/CAP

[@oberthepioneer]

@boat5138441 That's the problem. IF they are good enough to spawn air. Hell, most of the time, the US mains in 11.3 and upper BR barely spawn anything after the first death in Ground.

[@boat5138441]

@@oberthepioneer I found US teams recently got pretty decent in the early game then immediately jumped into a plane. Most of them don't even know how to properly counter top tier SPAAs and die immediately. Yeah US has a SPAA problem but my god even if they have early game advantage they throw all the time. Other teams just outspawn them 99% of the time.

[@oberthepioneer]

@boat5138441 Can't agree more on that one. I'm currently grinding the Israeli tech tree, and my experience pairing with US mains in top tier has not been easy, lol. Teams getting wiped before 10 minutes in. It also made me stop grinding the US tech tree due to how bad the teams were in top tier. I guess all the old US mains back then have migrated to other nation.

[@sn0wm4n94]

100% people seem to have forgotten that… Especially when the Abrams first came to the game and all Russia had was a T 64 1974 lol

[@lfotzblitz7436]

Every top tier nation is pain. Even the Russians, although not as much as every other nation. I wonder what top tier and the nations´ win rates would look like in a tank only mode?

[@microonexmurat5053]

germany easy win ;-)

[@Kanalankettu]

"even the russians" they are the worst

[@px_braguette]

The worst thing with usa at top tier is that it's like 10 clic bait 1 death leaver for 1 real player + usa main are for the most part german main from low tier but at top tier aka bots

[@GiacoTT]

Imagine having a radar but not using to spot planes/helis

[@swordsman1_messer]

I reached top tier on Sweden first. I’ve now reached to tier in US. The difference? US players, for some reason, keep obliging Russian MBTs to head on fights the later excels at, and seem to thing their lackluster ranged SPAA is sufficient to fight off the CAS spam when they get one of the best interceptors in the form of the F-15C. TL:DR many of the issues in the US are the fault of players not exercising basic fundamentals and problem solving. Russia top tier and CAS are significant issues, yes, but the problem can at least be mitigated by players first realizing playing into that issue certainly isn’t going to change anything.

[@shokhrukhmukhitdinov8970]

Well, thanks to gaijin many people bought click baits not knowing how to use it and leaving immediately after dying first spawn. Therefore, 70% of players are absent after 6-8 minutes. Plus to kill su 34, you have to kill with fox 3 otherwise adats can't do a sh*t to them. The other problem is, after an update all Abrams became even more vulnerable with its new internal drivers. Literally any shrapnel can disable your whole vertical and horizontal turret. You can't see this on t series tanks, even though I've seen a video in real life, where Bradley disabled t90m turret drivers with minimal shrapnel. Finally, very big nerf to TOW middles, especially to TOW 2b not flying correctly nor damaging t tanks correctly. I hope that makes more or less clear.

[@kiwikat1854]

Maps force players into these fights. also not everyone wants to grind the air tree and if you are getting stomped you wont have the 800 sp to spawn a f-15c with aim120s

[@swordsman1_messer]

@ it’s 758 with full AAMRAMS and fuel tanks

[@juliohart9439]

US AA so sucks we need ifpc air defense for new update.

[@IVANZOVPMC]

Beautiful game play , thank you so much

[@haonhat8782]

I'm grinding M1AI AIM and it is so painful☠☠☠☠, worse than Leo 2PL grinding experience

[@duck_strong556]

top tier in general is PAIN

[@MrMatious123]

Oh DARIUS mmmeeh mmmheeh is in the place, the true real king

[@PopThunder]

😁😅

[@huboDa]

good ol suffering

[@leo723st]

too much pain...........😮‍💨

[@antonisashitteragain6993]

Only pantsir and sometimes not paying atention the type 90 its a danger while CAS other system its just a little inconvenient

[@maxwellmaragia2272]

US top tier exists for one purpose only. Give free rp and sl to your enemies and make their grind easier

[@emanueldimenza]

Sep v2 for me is the best tank in top tier.

[@45atanner]

4:38 so I'm pretty sure that missle hit exactly where ur era blocks are , u know the same blocks that was made to stop rpg and rockets 😂

[@Better_Bread]

It’s only got like 400mm effective protection and most atgms have at least 600

[@DRedGuia]

It's not usa fault. Top tier is pain.

[@machinewings]

They buffed up soviet bias more and the corners of walls are not modelled correctly in the firebirds update

[@tchillin-5017]

Sounds like cope

[@DrClef_1]

​@@tchillin-5017because it is

[@kurnass2000]

soviet bias meanwhile worst top tier air, overpeforming f15e and f16c,

[@machinewings]

@@tchillin-5017 I just said facts because twice I noticed this, I kept shooting someone from a corner but I saw the shells are bouncing before it reaches my target. And after adjusting a bit, it finally hit. Once I shot a T-90 and it said "hit", but hit analysis says it perfectly goes through the ammo

[@squidy4082]

How much longer until we get a ground only mode or a fat cas nerf ?

[@AshleyRiot-lf8dw]

Have you noticed that the player is killed mostly by planes with Russian names?

[@śłozok204]

"The most skilled US main"

[@hank017chang6]

what can i say. USSR ERA can defend up to 250 pen shell....

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

I can't even side on russian tanksnin American light tanks. They eat my round point blank. I've rage quite so many times from complete and utter bs this game has. 375 should not be eaten by Era, especially a flat side on shot.

[@hhhhhh-gt2pf]

@@Anarcho-harambeismskill issue lol

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

@@hhhhhh-gt2pf ...

[@RajaRizky11]

well well well, i am currently working on my american tiers :/

[@elitegravety97]

If US top tier is pain so how about Britain(dark soul every tier)

[@thatdoc2298]

not gonna lie some evenings ill face USA and get utterly curb stomped but when I am on their team I lose. I must be the problem

[@AJ-happydad]

Before russians were using the Pantsir america already had nasams on humvess irl but this game is all Russian bias no balance

[@MississippiKid96]

Imagine: You start playing war thunder in 2024, you have no idea the meta and bias , so your first premium is a1 aim , and then learn how the tech tree works, and then you learn how terrible US top tier and mid tier is… then you have no idea the rush routes, power positions on the maps are, so you struggle to grind… Then (but wait there’s more) you are an Xbox player, so you have limited buttons and cas really isn’t a great option for you, on top of the fact that you grew up playing ace combat so CAS feels janky as fuck.. That’s me

[@tchillin-5017]

Just start learning the game first instead of paying ? Ever thought of that?

[@lfotzblitz7436]

Haha, bad move. Either play your way from the ground up with at least one nation, or quit. Gaijin made its money anyway. Instantly jumping to top tier isn´t a great strategy. Lackluster line up, bad crew and inexperience will bite every new player in the ass.

[@ISO-420]

Glad i quit america a long time ago.

[@pedrosanciny6345]

Tell me one reason to play top tier instead of 8.7 for example.

[@Devilmeerkat]

See the problem with top tier is most of the vehicles are still in use and components are all classified armor gun performance all of it so your abrams turns into a driving weak spot and the guessing isn’t even good if they did it like armored warfare where they look at a tank such as an abrams or a t series or whatever and guess like these are the best most modern tanks each nation has here’s where we think the best parts of a tank are and here’s the weak spots then the super unrealistic use of the turret ring shot on an abrams the likelyhood that could ever be hit in real life is extremely low so if they made that spot not a one shot every time then it could help but all modern vehicles across all nations need a major rework their guess work isn’t very good hell no abrams crew knows the armor values when it needs repaired they call in General Motors and leave the area

[@AshleyRiot-lf8dw]

This is the problem. On modern Abrams M1A2, the armor technology is classified. But Gaijin Entertainment found the armor characteristics of an old export Abrams and uses them in the game. But the Russian side likes to greatly inflate the characteristics of the armor on its tanks, hence the relic armor that will withstand the blow of the Death Star.

[@lupoblu238]

I pray for seeing your video

[@John_19k_doe]

Solution: much larger maps

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

What I don't get is why they don't model actual battlefields mor often, change some elevation, add burns for gun drills.

[@KnightDeadly86]

You spawn, drive, drive, you get a rocket from helicopter or airplane. Repeat.

[@45atanner]

Yep. Tank is ass with that mega fake weak spot and d players are even worse as they rush die then leave

[@qubi0102]

amazing

[@nerevar_tes5560]

great adept warriors on low graphics

[@rustysalmon2158]

british 9.7 when

[@PiotreqFN_]

this is click bait?

[@squidy4082]

Cas needs such a big nerf, top tier is literally unplayable

[@AshleyRiot-lf8dw]

The developers will hear you and make a nerf to the entire US Air Force, because you fucking forgot to indicate the name of the nation.

[@squidy4082]

@ no lol

[@admov3204]

bro made 5 kills in less then 1 minute: its ok pantsir tanked 2 missles with barely no tnt: THE GAME IS BROKEN how pathetic those wt youtubers are

[@tchillin-5017]

How pathetic you are 💀

[@squidy4082]

Game is broken af with CAs man

[@WujoPoland]

Top tier USA ( tank) is shit

[@IVANZOVPMC]

Just USA is shit 🤮

[@IVANZOVPMC]

USA is just a big shit

[@dodododes]

cos its shit in reality

[@floriansteininger347]

​@@dodododes You a Ruzzian?

[@georgedoss.junior2528]

😊

[@meisterdestoasts1574]

actual skillissue

[@Afigenus]

2:44 strongest german player

[@wrplayer7198]

malzi 2.0

[@KnightDeadly86]

pathetic travesty

[@lukashofmann3432]

Play more aggresive

[@troy_pl1138]

Russia get Pantsir... best shit in wt... US has fucking piss of shit adats with shot radar, shit short range rocket... vs fucking su34 and su25sm3 with kh38mt... XDDD Gaijin can't balance top tiers XDDD US and other nations after Leopards armor nerf are total shit XDDD

[@vladpodolny3143]

5 sec reload on Abrams.. stop cry girl...

[@WeAreAllBums]

Its not the tank lil rusky, its about having the outdated vehicles while russia gets say, the Pantsir or insane payloads on the SU-34 at low SP costs

[@troy_pl1138]

yeah 5 sec and nor armor XDDD

[@jesseburson]

@@WeAreAllBums this

[@maxmax-lo7pj]

​@@WeAreAllBums Its 896SP for Su-34

[@vladpodolny3143]

@ no armor? U joke?

[@VELETHOR-u3i]

Top tier is trash

[@georgedoss.junior2528]

Suécia toptier

[@Theratsnatcher]

lets say it together: "USA tanks are good "USA players are bad come on say it with me"🙏🏽

[@poppysquarepants]

US tanks are not good in war thunder lmao

[@carsamba0055]

Another wannabe Malzi?

[@X1DELTA1X]

At least it’s quality gamplay

[@MrGepard]

If you say top tier USA is bad then that's just a skill issue

[@troy_pl1138]

tell ''skill issue'' to ADATS players who can't lock su34 which is 12+km from they and this rocket has low energy,range and 35g and radar doesn't see anything XDD

[@maxmax-lo7pj]

top tier USA is mid af. Quite painful sometimes, depend on teams. Got way more fun playing top tier USSR.

[@MrGepard]

@@maxmax-lo7pj Eh herm, auto loader good armor, 'No.1 tank ever built' good speed good thermals Abrams tank, Unfair AGM/GBU using F16's and15's, un godly like radar missiles fastest jets good maneuverability, HSTV-L, op helis, A-10C (four 9M's at relatively low br) I could keep going! Top tier US isn't pain, just get better lol

[@MrBigblacksock]

Please post your top tier USA stats.

[@MrGepard]

@@MrBigblacksock Who are you asking, do an @ then the users name after that to show who your talking too