Why Is Top Tier USA So Bad?

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[@Alientracker13]

I'd say it's the massive influx of brand-new players that buy the premiums. Especially during sales like the one that just went on where you could hop in an Abrams for 30 dollars.

[@dotCashark]

then why isn't this an issue for other nations that also have high tier premiums that go on sale?

[@godfathertoya]

​@@dotCasharkCuz US tree is arguably more interesting than the Others. Only 2 coming close is USSR for Russians and Germany cuz the Leos.

[@S4t0r1]

​@@dotCasharkcuz there's more kids wanting to get their sweet precious Abrams and f16 rather who would spend their moms money to get a premium to farm it💀 theres just more ppl who want to grind US in comparison to other nations

[@irirjhrhr4645]

​@@dotCasharkbecause there are mostly American patriots that want to play the abrams and A-10 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅🦅🦅

[@domin3688]

​@@irirjhrhr4645 A10 is quiet easy to play

[@butbut3931]

The US tech tree itself is really good but there’s no team work and the new players having the abram, and after they die they just leave bc they don’t have a team.

[@Sh4quille0atmeal]

a level 10 player in a premium abrams rammed me out of cover infront of a T-72. half my matches where im teamed up with USA its full of premium abrams and they all die instantly and leave or spawn a fucking Lvt, die again, wasting even more tickets

[@butbut3931]

@@Sh4quille0atmeal ong that always happens😭

[@Dicatt-1]

@@Sh4quille0atmealLMFAO the I hate those fucking clickbait lvl 15 players

[@TheDutie]

For US mains The map needs to be like 3 times The size and without cap points because they can't and won't stop pushing even if that means sitting in the enemy spawn and get killed by enemies with spawn protection still on

[@TeamValkyrie2023]

Guess u shouldn't spawn camp then

[@TheDutie]

@@TeamValkyrie2023 I didn't say that im a us main

[@heenthousiast383]

it's not that the selection of vehicles is bad, it's that most new players that come to the game will see an Abrams on sale for like 30 bucks and buy it, but thats not the only story, as veterans also play this game, and they also do this to play vehicles they may have served in real life

[@burnedbacon3989]

The veterans will be so disappointed when they see how the vehicle that have saved their lives and bring them home dies so easily in the game lmao

[@holstatt6896]

​@@burnedbacon3989nah, american tankers in the last 30 years have not faced foes with modern armor or atgms.

[@burnedbacon3989]

@@holstatt6896 doesn't matter, the spall cone created after the abrams get penetrated is too large for a modern tank, still

[@briartousley9806]

The spall cone that literally didnt exist for 2 weeks? The Abrams is fine, the playerbase just sucks​@@burnedbacon3989

[@M0LOCK]

The infinity waves of premium players...not only that the majority with also the capacity to buy them with easy...

[@Epsilon-M47]

Great video...as a U.S. main i understand all of these issues...but gaijin wont do anything because they make money off the clickbait and AIM

[@Insatiable-saucy]

thats why they called it M1A1 clickbait :D

[@l.s3316]

AIM is a squadron so unless someone buys it using GE Gaijin didn’t make money off it

[@Epsilon-M47]

@@l.s3316 let's be real here a lot of people bought it with GE

[@alphanomad511]

Aim is a squadron vehicle not premium

[@m.a.6020]

@@l.s3316you either have to wait a few months to grind out the squad vehicle, which means you won’t have a lineup in time unless you were already grinding for some time. Or, you can BUY GE FROM gaijin to buy the squadron vehicle, either time you still don’t have a lineup unless you pre-planned it.

[@borednekoguy]

if it's a togna clan member with a Chinese username it's probably not a real person

[@W2rL0ck]

My opinion the worst problem is the sales and all the new players only wanting to play USA and buying the clickbait

[@ILikeIcedCoffee]

You notice Gaijin sales everything except premium AA? The only one that exists is a Russian relic in 5.0 that was removed later.

[@Helium-147]

If you’re talking about packs, I understand you. But as premiums(in the game), Does the ZUT-37 count?

[@SRDPS2]

3:55 I like the "Click-Bait" kill list XD 4:40 This is highlighted of "sure Russia hit box is flat-out bullsh*t but it's still pathetic compared to [classified]"

[@gamergumilyov8579]

"I dropped USA top tier 100 times, this is what happened"

[@PAllen74]

I am top tier in Germany, USA, and the USSR. Honestly, the Abrams is a great tank that can destroy whole teams on the flank with its 5 seconds reload. The rest of the lineup is also pretty balanced and cas options are great. The only issue with the US atm is the huge number of AIM and Clickbait players who only spawn once, and usually just charge in and die instantly. Only time I have seen the US win recently is if the clickbaits can rush and spawncamp the enemy at the start of the match.

[@unnamedncrtrooper4545]

Top tier would be much funner for all nations if Gaijin actually wanted it to be. The fixes for Ground RB at BRs 9 - 11.7 is quite simple; - Larger Maps to accommodate modern vehicles and modern warfare doctrine - Harder to get CAS and limits on how many can be in play - either NPC AAs or more incentive for players to use AA to reduce the dominance of CAS - stop adding a new OP russian top tier premium every fucking 2 minutes - Get rid of repair costs entirely (having to pay to fix a virtual tank is stupid) Gaijin arent blind, or out of touch, or stupid, they just dont care about the community. Top tier premium sales to unknowing newbies makes them cash, so they've turned top tier of both air and ground into a premium pseudo-p2w cesspool to trick new players or coerce older ones to throw money at the game in frustration.

[@TeamValkyrie2023]

No ai aa, Iam good at aa, don't want ai stealing my kills 😂

[@BobdaButcher]

Its the premium noobs for sure. There is some slight bias in how they model russian and german tanks, but if the players were equally skilled it wouldn't be a huge problem. This is why WT needs skill based matchmaking so the premium noobs can get isolated in their own games. Even if it increases que times for some players it would be worth it. Then the actually experienced US mains wouldn't get dragged down by their noob teammates, and the noobs would have better experiences because they wouldn't be getting curb stomped each game. More likely to stay and keep spending $.

[@ZBrolyedits9501]

Trust me, skill based matchmaking would be worse than what we have currently

[@the.jedi.survivor]

Gaijan nerfed the hell out of usa and the ussr is always against them and ussr is buffed so much

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

US top tier has meh MBTs, an overtiered light tank, no SPAA, and ok CAS; yet it is usually paired up with a couple minor nations fighting against the best MBTs (Germany, Sweden, Russia, Italy), the best light tanks (Italy, Russia, Sweden), the best SPAA (Russia), and the best CAS (Russia) - and then people are surprised the US does bad

[@AnotherHaloGamer]

? ADATS as SPAA, Very good CAS/CAP - F16C

[@PzIV-E]

@@AnotherHaloGamer No actual 70 spawn point spaa though.

[@AnotherHaloGamer]

@@PzIV-E yeah because it’s a TD, just because the missiles

[@Glumbus1]

best, italy, pick one

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

@@Glumbus1 Italy has the 2A7HU now

[@Jugggernaawwt]

Almost every match I play with the U.S most of them use the clickbait

[@tankman66]

The reality is that Abrams has some major weak spots in the game, and 9 out of 10 times when encountering another player (from a nation other than the USA), they are most likely going to be more experienced and are not going to miss those weakspots. Then it boils down to do they even have another vehicle or backup to use? And the answer is usually no, so your team gets overwhelmed and loses.

[@LTFP-fw3it]

Doesn’t help when they won’t add 829a3 or the improved hull armor

[@R34lGarlicBread]

improved hull armor is used from SEP V3 and onwards

[@Sporty2121]

@@R34lGarlicBread The sep v2 has it but they wont give it to the US due to not enough evidence aka its classified info....

[@LTFP-fw3it]

@@R34lGarlicBread the hull armor on the Abram’s improved on every new model

[@screwthis3151]

​@@R34lGarlicBread sadly, that's gaijins logic and its invalid

[@DanielNotWise]

​@@LTFP-fw3itany unbiased source?

[@Ajguns]

its a mix of gaijin not getting American vehicles right and a influx of new players

[@greyfoxlight3490]

One thing that bug me the most is chinese players. Most of the time their shot is highly suspicious

[@ozan1234561]

Just a reminder that blatant cheating in chinese culture is completely justified, youre seen as an idiot for wanting a fair match

[@tankbuilder0673]

Amount of premium tanks per team should be limited to counter the noobs who buy one top tier premium and bring nothing else just to leave after one death. It will not fix my skill issue but will make battles longer and more fun

[@thisfeatureissostupid]

i've noticed at any br the team that loses usually has half as many players left as the winning team. the 1 death and leaving is bad, but whats actually worse are trash players that keep respawning. people that are going 0-3 almost every match are feeding the enemy spawn points so they can respawn forever while also not helping at all. in both cases most of these players have a full premium lineup and arent actually good at the game because they havent played enough to be good at higher br's

[@Vince_070]

USA losses so much because we have the biggest disadvantage. 1. For top tier cas you can get shot down as you spawn and as far as 20km from battle field which is not even close enough range for CAS 2. Just like the first point our AAA has a range of 10km at most which is basically useless against Op helis shooting from their spawn 3. The Op helis that Russia, china, Germany has is unfair for the US players 4. The premium buyers that buys their way to top tier just to leave after 1 death 🤦

[@ElBoseph]

Womp womp

[@undefinedxx55]

Found the USA player

[@Vince_070]

@@undefinedxx55🥲

[@ougioshino6940]

🤡

[@Vince_070]

@@ougioshino6940 you think you’re so funny hahahaha 😐

[@madkat8614]

Well, this not USA problem, it's entire game problems.

[@F-35_is_goat]

yea fuck snail hates it us

[@StarWarsExpert_]

How many of these matches had mostly America as your teammates? Where there any players which achieved first place and played a different country on your team?

[@handsomeivan1980]

USA top tier is full of people that think the Abrams is made of DU and the UFP shatters everything (Edit) Basically the people that bought into top tier

[@dxplayer1176]

after a couple minutes of watching how you play. the LAV is super easy to play, your just not aware of enemys and where to shoot. in your plane, make sure to notch and watch for AA missiles, even if you dont see any, just chaff and notch when you get an enemy AA ping or know they will fire the missile. for S1 notch and run down for cover or move side to side while notch if far away

[@GatorGreenGladiator]

When you play against RU Germ and Sweeden all the time... its rough.

[@nobadnamesleft]

I dont blame people for leaving after 1 death since the game design lends itself to doing that anyways. If people are grinding a vehicle it doesn't make much sense to stay in a match that doesn't respect your time.

[@ussenterprisecv6231]

Honestly i love US top tier it was way better than 8.3 since some tanks are mid unlike the bradley and m60aos

[@CyberMonkey03]

Premium noobs, and also overperforming Russian ERA

[@nsdapcommunism2780]

Prove that Russian era over performs

[@halooord]

If only the low level premium vehicles could get a different queue, separate the veteran top tier players (lvl90+). Anyone who is below level 50 with a top tier premium always leave after one death even if they had the whole line up (KVT, Clickbait, M1128 wolfpack, A-10)

[@mattzg3292]

American players are at a disadvantage for sure i have the clickbait and just recently bought the T80u E1 and its crazy how easy it is to kill western tanks its on easy mode my win eate in abrams is terrible while in my T80 my win rate is 75%

[@Slipzedits]

yes because us tanks were built for flanking and strategy not head on combat so when you get a veteran player in a us tank there’s a reason there top every time

[@thegamingraven1691]

@@Slipzedits Yeah, the M1 (10.3 abrams) is so powerful if you know how to use it. It is insanely fast+ decent shell

[@dxplayer1176]

idk bout yall but i find all tech tree nations for ground fine, even though i only have 10.3 germany i know most of my enemys ups and downs. the abrams get 1 shot in the turret ring, leopards get shot in the ring (IF IM CORRECT) but for sure the driver right side. Japan and sweden are the same for leopards and T80's. the T90 needs to shoot the right side of cheek near breach. the under plate is also one for every tank weakness.

[@Mystalo]

Must say im ussr main and its like always on the half or near end match where my team have like atleast 3 KA-50/2's and min 2 fighter jets and 1 SU 25/39's and im always thinking why the US is so rare in the sky, i encountered maybe 5 F16-C's in around 50 matches..

[@Sh4quille0atmeal]

the winrates are being fucked over because of tons of new players who buy a premium abrams and fucking suck.

[@TeamValkyrie2023]

Like us air mains like to tell German air mains, you should Have ground out a better nation for ground lol

[@Solus_WT]

The leopard fired his mg so he already knew

[@stevenhannweg1644]

When i Just See all the anime pilows i know in what category of Player you belong 😂

[@armanboncales2928]

even you are at ussr and pair with US 2 to 3 ussr player with tons of US premium low level player after half of match your team will be wipe out and 2 ot 3 ussr player struggling to not die in spawn

[@illegalaryan823]

too few American tank players play planes. Unironically if they just brought more F16s they would clean up every match.

[@ICAC234]

Well, I got a match yesterday where almost entire US team brought their F14s and 16s that destroyed our spawn so I think you are right

[@goliath3413]

3:53 in typical US mains fashion. And then they blame russian bias for the win rates. Brother in Christ, the mission of the game is stated at every single start of the match in big text at the top of the screen.

[@IGetGangBangedByFishAllDay]

Im an american main and ive never seen this russian bias. Am i missing something?

[@precelson1]

It's not vehicles... It's the players.

[@rowanyuh6326]

The tigers are brutalizing me recently but they are easy 2s6 kills so its ok

[@AdaaDK]

I agree with your conclutions, but i also think that AA is an issue atm, with russia having by far the best endgame AA, AND the best endgame CAS for long range sniping, + the best helli, ALL tho when that is said, i have noticed highend american players more often than most orther nations sucks, OR 1 spawn leave, i will also say that most nations has a ton of 1 spawn leavers esp at br 9.3+(basicly from lategame prems stats apearing).

[@kenlict9456]

Well America top tier is literally 60-40 year old tech while every other nation has modern shit(past 25 years).

[@IGetGangBangedByFishAllDay]

The sep v2 is relatively new i thought

[@penghaowang2966]

from what I have expleince playing agaist the US this few weeks as USSR at 9.7-117 they seem to do quite well becuase most of the time I be in the T72 and 4m into the game my whole died and I get swarmed by like 5 abrams

[@Adargi]

9 times out of 10 when I see that USA is on my team I know I am on my own and there is a high chance that we wont win.

[@En1i1y]

Russia is the problem i can see that, Ka 50 - Ka 52 - Su 25 variants - T80 BVM nad T90M with just stupidly overpowerd shit

[@yuanfurbax]

It's the player not the vehicle usa is very good nation having the best air to air and air to ground capabilities(in 1 plane) and the abrams is very good having more usable armor than the Leopard 2(except 2A7) also more pen than 2A5 and below. but greedy gaijin only cares about money and not their trusted players so they add prems for noobs to buy ruining teams for the people that acually played to game. Always blame the us players, not the us vehicles. sometimes Ussr or Germany play like us players but on avg usa players play as bad or worse than German ww2 teammates.

[@Timou777]

nice vid ❤ how much time have you spent on wt ?

[@R34lGarlicBread]

3200 hours lol

[@MayoaMan]

Russia win rate💀

[@Insatiable-saucy]

Im grinding france because the main 3 gets to much love for no reason M1A1 got 9 differnt versions for what? a bit more wood on to tank? im playing fronce because who wouldnt want to have medium armor being blue good gun and horrible turn time? :>

[@OldinaryChimera]

It's the pilot not the plane = it's the player not the vehicle

[@mw9297]

Not the player. It’s the game.

[@Gyyghhhhjjjkk]

1 is that theres too many new players who picks USA as their first tree. 2nd is that ambrams in toptier really isn't that good. Abrams can only be effective if you are experienced and you know the map well and you can aim and don't suck ass which 90% of the top tier player don't pocess.

[@screwthis3151]

Particular nation flag or nickname with accurate aim means something SUS always as you know

[@R34lGarlicBread]

If you see a name in Chinese be aware they play the game like the entirety of China depends on it.

[@goldmine2619]

I wouldnt say vehicles are bad and that its the new players, but news flash, its both, americas tanks suck in wt. no armor on hulk not first shot capability and some shells can pen the turret, not to mention the increase in weight but no armor on the sep line, gaijin wants government documents before they buff america so all we can do is just be sad and switch nations now

[@Mitol-vv1lu]

I bought the clickbait at around level 45 is that too early

[@IGetGangBangedByFishAllDay]

Not really. What tier are you on tho?

[@УРА-и1х]

Good tech tree but the people line up

[@acetaminofen7310]

The abrams turret armor really sucks, thats why always it is a lose

[@namvu5223]

yah i dont see that is a problem, really it bounces a lot

[@skipslash7367]

idk what you're on the abrams turret armor is probably the best protected in the game, but the abrams has giant weakspots in the turret ring and hull

[@TeamValkyrie2023]

Turn off north American server. Ive noticed that a lot of us players are premium whales that 1 death leave.

[@kpkostas]

Everyone is blaming new players and premiums like the clickbait for years. Apparently noone grinds america just buys the premiums. Wake up people america suffers. Abrams are huge, With very bad armor, the loudest tank engine in the game. America has no spaa. There are many other problems but its too late m going to sleep

[@onlyrushb6428]

game volume is very loud

[@PiPi00001]

I think if gaijin just gives bigger maps then imo US teams would have more chances also prevent helis from clearing people out too easily right from start new players will still get wreck but at least less chances of brawling with enemies who alr know how to exploit the abrams big weakspots just my opinion though as I play japan and italy and all the armor talk is fuqing alien tech to me

[@agentho.t]

Hopa esti roman? vrei sa jucam candva?

[@t10god]

your username is rule 34 garlic bread? I should search this up to see the reference

[@R34lGarlicBread]

its nor a reference💀

[@bro_5552]

should i use US nation im only tier 3 should i switch to USSR?

[@R34lGarlicBread]

I have the full air and ground tree for the USA and I really enjoyed it, its a good nation for starters

[@RVize]

Yea I agree with most the comments I don't think usa is bad. I think its a total dif play style. Do I think the armors wrong yea but aye only a hand full of records of Kia was from ied and a aa gun others where only wia buy meh

[@epicgames2701]

you are romanian?

[@lucastretcu-iova2290]

Are you romanian?

[@swam4367]

Play Germany at 8.3 it’s horror

[@LazyBoyA1]

Germany at 7.0 is horrible too, I always end up with a lot of kills and no team.

[@TeamValkyrie2023]

It's not the nation it's the players. 90% rush to same point closest to spawn, then push to spawn camp, die and repeat. If they stop and defend the point and let enemy come to them they would be much better.

[@Miukii_7]

How do i make the ess plus thermal trick i did once on accident

[@R34lGarlicBread]

if you have ESS and thermals on your tank, deploy ESS then use thermal vision thermal vision can see through the ESS smoke, but not through smoke grenades hope this helped!

[@Miukii_7]

@@R34lGarlicBread even tho I have the Abrams I don't know what ESS mean😂

[@Better_Bread]

@@Miukii_7engine smoke system. Default key bind is H. Makes a smoke cloud around you constantly for a period of time unlike smoke grenades

[@Unbeschuldigt]

Or just imenz skill issue. I personaly are not the best but i dont lose so mutch.

[@TrumpWins-jk7eq]

Because GayJin is a Russian sympathizer company. because of the Ukraine war proving their bias towards Russian armor. They have to make American tanks look weak in game. because in real life video proves in Ukraine war that the Bradley 25mm takes out T-90M tanks and even drone with a RPG-7 strapped to blows the turret off in one shot. The war has really effected GayJin bias. Because the whole world now knows the truth about Russian armr. it sucks and American tanks are way better.

[@isaiahmountford5815]

your comment has about as much thought and intelligence put into it as your parents did while making you. which is 0.

[@akkakali]

Its not the tanks its the players

[@SRDPS2]

Rheinmetall should be one of GayJin sponsored Because well that's Leopard you might to deal with Sure HEAT damage have to be rework to be more consistent

[@ElBoseph]

Ya no… you just suck😭

[@rinzler3260]

​@@SRDPS2i dont think that rhein designed the leopard tank

[@beatmort2]

subscribe pt ca esti roman :))

[@GalaxyStars_1]

how to ess trick?

[@R34lGarlicBread]

if you have ESS and thermals on your tank, deploy ESS then use thermal vision thermal vision can see through the ESS smoke, but not through smoke grenades hope this helped!

[@GalaxyStars_1]

@@R34lGarlicBread Thanks!

[@octoocto7238]

i am Big XX on warthunder :) will try to follow you

[@mochathegrande3640]

ai voice destroys credibility. maybe its just a me thing but until i heard the ai voice you had me hooked.

[@inthehood1750]

Text to speach has nothing to do with AI

[@R34lGarlicBread]

how can it destroy credibility, just turn down your volume and they are like subtitles

[@crfitz25]

air is good idk

[@Honoer]

It’s not all the players, the m1a2s are hard to play. All the Abram’s are hard to play because you can’t brawl with them. Gotta play them like a light tank.

[@skipslash7367]

it's literally just the players if i had a team that had some semblance of experience in war thunder i would win at least half my games

[@Tonk0996]

uite romanul

[@momokalover283]

What is your camerashake %?

[@R34lGarlicBread]

Default one

[@vyshi]

9 minutes of proving it's not ;)

[@R34lGarlicBread]

bruh

[@monygaming8642]

Skill issue

[@Nigachat]

Just skill issue

[@Tudi62626]

u romanian?

[@R34lGarlicBread]

yep

[@tanz-gaming-ov6lo]

Germans usin new kind of hack for real because i was playing with T-72A and there were 2 leopards Ptzbl and a leopard 1a4 ptzbl got me through smokes but i survived and the leopard 1a4 shot me through large amount of smoke made by my team so everyone can cross and he took my through my front bottom armor how?

[@R34lGarlicBread]

depends if your teammates used ESS or smoke grenade, with thermals you can see through ESS

[@senzanome5768]

It's leopard 1a5 and the driver hatch and the lower plate of t72 it's very penetrable

[@senzanome5768]

Ah I forget if you don't have the glascias armor modification the entire hull of t 72 it's penetrable by that br apfsds

[@tanz-gaming-ov6lo]

@@R34lGarlicBread man it's a literal smoke by a gepard and i still remember...

[@tanz-gaming-ov6lo]

@@senzanome5768 glascias? am still on tier 4 but am researching for a hull armor modification

[@belediyeninkarssndakigecekondu]

also you have skill issue

[@dartawnasailo4449]

Record and use your own voice,, AI tts is soo annoying