TOP WORST MARKSMEN THAT SERIOUSLY NEEDS A REVAMP

[@danieljohn5319]

the only good thing about Natan with other marksmans is that his damage cannot be countered by Wind of Nature

[@aminyahouse3616]

But by athena and radiant

[@rileyanderson8010]

Lesley better

[@danieljohn5319]

@@aminyahouse3616 what I mean was attack items not defensive items wind of nature is part of the attack items Like other hero, except Natan and Kimmy, they all have physical damage.

[@danieljohn5319]

@@rileyanderson8010 Yeah especially her new revamp that deals True Damage

[@miggy4667]

Kimmy be like: *JUST USE ME INSTEAD*

[@lowrence5579]

How to make them effective: 5. Irithel needs a mobile/Cc support. (Rafaela&Valir) 4. Miya needs a good CC initiator.(Tigreal&Atlas) 3. Natan needs an aggressive/sustain fighter. (Lapu&YZ) 2. Layla needs a support/Tank that knows what their doing.(ex. Rafaela &Diggie) 1. Hanabi buffs

[@idontneedagoodname4211]

Hanabi is so helpless nothing can make her effective💀

[@fruitypeople337]

For real man

[@notreal7849]

You just strenged the point.. Most of the time, you will see roamer ganking with jungler, and if your mm CANNOT hold lane 1v1, it will just hold your team down. Especially when there are mm, that can hold lane even 1v2 like Melissa, Brody or even Claude if played properly, whose on the other hand will give your team early-game advantage.

[@akaziaku1762]

Ok i am not watching the whole video.. thank you

[@vxyeir]

​@@idontneedagoodname4211 I don't know but recently in ranks I've been seeing her being used often, and most players are good with her. It's annoying how her attacks can bounce to you even if you're far away. As a Hanabi player myself, my wr is 58% and my highest kill is 32.

[@luckysonyaikhom7029]

Kazuki knows which thumbnail should he use🗿

[@KazukiOfficial]

Talent!!

[@Enjøy_Ck]

@@KazukiOfficial 🤣🤣🤣

[@Rukgametube]

@@KazukiOfficial LoL 😂😆😂

[@no-copyright-soundbyng8561]

lol is lol 😎

[@PremKumar-uk1rp]

@@KazukiOfficial the boys😂

[@kendement071]

Moontoon: Gives dashes to new heroes. Also Moontoon: Why do we keep getting revamp requests to outdated heroes. Request: Give him a dash skill

[@foolgee6341]

trying to be funny dude? haha

[@Minelegend-xh4rc]

Bro forgot how his joke should go but doesn't want to just discard the half complete joke.

[@AVB_28]

😐

[@obitohyfgisme9603]

@@foolgee6341 This isn't a joke every new hero have dash+CC or 1 shot ulti isn't not fair for old hero. They're not that new now but for example "Valie and Kadita" you really don't need much skill to killed your enemy

[@Isoolated_Irl]

@@obitohyfgisme9603 I agree ex joy man you can't even catch her Imagine you pick terazila for fun and she dodged all of ur skills 🗿

[@arthuryim1495]

As a Natan main, the only thing that he lacks in is his mobility, i felt than when casting his ultimate, he should be able to blink twice, it may be broken, but still thats all he needs. Also I think he is becoming a Marksman/Mage hybrid, meaning he is slowly becoming a mage at some point

[@aceDLol]

i think his old items were hunter strike until they revamp him for magic dps

[@alimatloob2850]

It's wouldn't be broken if he could blink twice with his Ult, Haya can blink 4-5 freaking times with just his short CD 2nd 😅

[@sumireiruna]

Gus mains be like: dash huh

[@mekan4963]

I do agree with comments that having multiple blinks would be nice, but even with aggressive Natan players the strategy tends to be like an Assassin. Position the clone to burst down squishy enemies and use passive to run away or chase. Maybe Natan should be that class instead of a MM lol.

[@sumireiruna]

@@mekan4963 yeah recently picked up natan and im much more comfortable with skill burst than mm (basic atk still hurts too and is also fast at cap passive) some of my teammates hates it though ...but if the game takes too long i switch to aspd/crt specially if my teammates dmg is falling off)

[@ruth9165]

As a hanabi main I am very disappointed with the revamp as it doesn't make any better 😔

[@mongbaquinker4106]

Hanabi revamp xd

[@ruth9165]

@@mongbaquinker4106 more like nerf hanabi, I guess..

[@Rickeyboyz]

I like the old hanabi skill i wish they bring back the effect

[@ariefhelmy2046]

@@Rickeyboyz yeah the lifesteal make her unique mm

[@ruth9165]

@@ariefhelmy2046 that's right ✅ , without lifesteal she is no more she

[@ongyokelingmoe4940]

Im a layla main and to me, shes not that bad. U just need to know the combos, custom emblem and her build to make her invincible. Try windtaker and beserkers fury and swift boots. After using them, u will attacking in a 100% fast speed

[@WildScreamMLBB]

"Do comment about Natan effectiveness", here I gooooo: 1. You can buy wind chant to bully any mm in a 1v1 2. You can play him in jungle as well 3. He is fine in both early and late game. 4. No dash skill ? The boy got mov. speed *_I want to use Natan, matches 314, Win Rate: 78.1%._*

[@pranavpatil673]

Very much true . Natan is mine main hero too. And I have have a winrate of 75 with 290 matches. Honestly its a skill to use Natan effectively . Only Natan players would understand it.

[@Brycesavagenewfox]

Me too natan main , 1657 mtches winrte, 67.5% wanna custom?

[@satchiewonderbell]

He can now also be played in mid too

[@shoooooooooooooooooo]

You can use his ult to escape, and it also has a low cooldown.

[@dimplegargtgtsc.sambarocha344]

Natan main here 3100 matches 55 percent wr He is a lot weaker after his buff His burst physical build was better than magic His crit was best and way better than trinity CDR is a problem He is weak early and weak late only mid game when he is strong Jungle got slower than before

[@sio_uh]

As a natan main i think he is amazing i even got a savage recently He can clear lanes fast He can counter mm (his 2nd skill makes mm unable to attack while in cc) He can break turrets super fast He can melt tanks late game (almost as fast as karrie)

[@MisterViolet]

I am a Miya main. Miya is likely a slow marksman with useful utilities packed. Her arrows and passive damage were boosted enough to shred enemies, she can build a Trinity set or Critical set depending at the composition and complexity. Her main source of escape is the Ultimate, like you mentioned before, her Overpowered skill. Both her ambush and escape are very high, yet the vulnerability is durability. She is already balanced to use her in the Land of Dawn.

[@jason_de_kulo]

Balanced maybe on legend and lower

[@Marc-fh9xd]

@@jason_de_kulo so what is she in mythic

[@fruitypeople337]

@@Marc-fh9xd A troll pick or joke , because she can't stand her ground against other mms like popol and kupa, clint ,brody, beatrix ,karrie etc .

[@notreal7849]

Main reason why is she said to be worst is exactly what you mentioned. "Her main source of escape is the Ultimate", but it's also her main source of surprise attack. Not gonna talk about how literally every tank and huge chunk of fighters can 1v1 her with just 2 items and Vengeance spell, which is among most used in current meta.

[@Toriyakii]

As a marksman user I can agree with this lol

[@r.i.o.t1274]

Men you say than Bruno is good ? Better than popol por granger?

[@Toriyakii]

@@r.i.o.t1274 granger and popol is a good marksman too but depends on how the player use it. I tried to use granger gold lane but he's not slightly better than bruno. Granger is better as core in my opinion. For popol I use him a lot before but I noticed that his build change from damage to tank builds. Which is reasonable because of the fact that other meta heroes can kill kupa easily. But overall I still think popol can come back as meta soon. Bruno is a good marksmen despite of the fact that he can damage a lot with one single volley shot. Depends on how the player use it too. I'm not a pro mm player so I think a lot of people will disaggree with my opinion. I'm not focusing on the meta I still think that underrated heroes can still shine in the future season.

[@whyYouTubechangedname]

@@Toriyakii I m granger main i play him jungle and gold lane I can say granger good if u really know how to play him u can play against almost any mm except wanwan late and kupa granger can escape alot of hard situation won't die easy if enemy jungler geak him because he have escap pats

[@Toriyakii]

@@whyKZbinchangedname yep it really depends on how a player use it :D I'm not a granger main.. he is kinda hard for me to master so I salute you for maining him

[@kohfifi7187]

The Hanabi part is very sad, the fact they can revamp Lesley and make her from one of the worst mm to one of the good one, they should seriously revamp Hanabi again like idc

[@razorgaming4796]

u called lesley a good one??what a joke

[@n3ro12e7]

@@razorgaming4796 bro use Lesley and find out how she can 1 tap a hero

[@razorgaming4796]

@@n3ro12e7 her damage is pretty good at late game..but she was too squishy and can be easily take out by pro assasins..and for the last..she lacks mobility from my opinion...doesnt have a good escape..even using her first skill...if we land an attack on her..she can be easily targeted again..

[@sodonewithit.literally]

@@razorgaming4796 which is why good judgement is needed with Lesley. Only assassin that I can't handle are those hiding in bushes, which isn't a problem since you have the ult for scouting bushes. Knowing when and where to use 1st and 2nd skill is also a must. Also also, sprint/purify are your go to battle spells, and only take wind of nature or athena as your only defensive items to deal max dmg. Those things never failed me, and I don't even use her thay much anymore. Just have good judgement and you'll be set

[@janinebelleestrada7096]

@@n3ro12e7 yeah but she is not viable if the enemy chooses quick game end line up. She's a late game hero and is not even impressive. Other mm can easily burst her. Imagine being a lesley in late game and you're the only one survivor.

[@isaac0710-v1c]

Though positioning is key for all mm, I think Irithel is one of the best if your positioning is good especially in teamfights.

[@gibs40]

Her damage even in the late game is low

[@seg9621]

Hanabi is like having 1hp everytime

[@Tidal_Force]

Natan user with 356 MATCHES I say he is very powerful in the early game. Also you need full stack to easily reposition your self which is very effective.

[@aristonas]

Agree

[@RedGamingChair]

Took me some time, but I finally adapted to the changes made to Natan. So basically, it’s a burst marksman. You don’t engage unless you have your ultimate and skill 2. Skill 2 is in my opinion his most useful skill. And when you use ultimate, the skill 2 is very effective because you trigger it twice.

[@roninzero12]

You can engage if you have full stacks. Since he has a mini cc he can burst down mms and squishies with ease.

[@risdhh_]

It's not Natan fault that moonton nerfed him to the ground 💀 They cancelled His hybrid dmg His critical dmg His high life steal

[@kimchua1149]

Layla is really good when facing Moskov.

[@qoer3344]

The reason why Natan's winrate is so low, is because he got this adjustment, making him more effective with magic items, but players who don't read patch notes still build physical items on him, which makes him weak (so called troll build). He is actually one of the strongest mm.

[@makotosakura408]

Yeah

[@temporaryaccount3480]

The only thing he needs is mobility or blink

[@ClarenceAveSalvador-zy8nh]

True

[@_simj]

I agree, Hanbi barely deals any damage even in late game. She can be easily overpowered and her first skill gives a really small shield which is easy to be countered. The only "ok" thing about the revamp is her 1st skill, its really effective against tank heroes but not too effective in other roles especially mages.

[@Kraiikraiitaytay]

do this one for all the roles im curious to see your thoughts , facts and opinions on each role

[@yukikhozo7923]

layla can actually be super useful in the late games, w correct equipment and positioning, but moonton really did her wrong by not adding an escape skill

[@toki1414]

As a natan main. He is effective when ambushing enemies in a group. As you can use his ult and inspire, to deal seriously deadly damage. Although the 2nd skill holds him down as it knock enemies away. However, he does need alot of equipment like miya to be deadly in late game

[@popoboy6349]

his 2nd is used for escaping dont use it when engaging

[@gotmdc7395]

@@popoboy6349 idm you still use it to get your passive off because when you ult it decreases the cd of it

[@yazenalnahari66772]

What build are playing the crit one or the attack speed or the C.o.D build or glowing wand build?

[@popoboy6349]

@@gotmdc7395 i usually charge my passive before engaging on jungle creeps

[@toki1414]

@@yazenalnahari66772 attack speed and enhance basic attack

[@Elvynna512]

Also Irithel is a nightmare Counter for Wanwan bc if wanwan chase her, Irithel will became strong if she attack her during moving and wanwan is sure will die because if her Also Hanabi Is not 1v1 hero but 5v5 teamfigh heroes so If you want to 1v1 you need minions to across so her bounce will drain their Hp

[@KimstormMlGaming]

Natan is strong especially in the mid game and late game even early he can melt the opponent's hp, besides he is like karrie when your build is DHS and GS and Divine glaive, even fredrinn, lapu-lapu, and barats, he can melt of 1-3 seconds,🧡🧡 TOP 1 GLOBAL NATAN🧡🧡 HERE SUPPORTS YOU ^^ LOVE YOU KAZUKI🥰🥰 EDIT: Natan can use Wind of nature to counter all of the marksman in the game except for Kimmy, BIG ADVANTAGE, I can easily erase all of the marksman in the game especially moskov and wanwan which are having very low hp

[@naoroibamromita3748]

Being Natan main I agree

[@rrqfan1523]

Natan my best hero 👍

[@ayuCc.]

wind of nature can’t counter Lesley nor karrie lol

[@imubestienow2434]

@@ayuCc. natan can also counter wind of nature

[@miggy4667]

@@imubestienow2434 Kimmy : *YEAH ME TOO* 💀

[@Chalkolate911]

Why is lesley D tier tho? she literally has good mobility, does true damage, can easily melt even tanks, and is so difficult to chase.

[@ariefhelmy2046]

probably not type can push tower and kill faster. she mosly poke and run

[@patrickdevenecia6710]

same thoughts.. I think she's in B tier if not A

[@Jxki69]

@@patrickdevenecia6710 B-

[@spider-man5544]

she gets overwhelmed easily if shes the priority, has no dash skills so she can be pretty predictable

[@Kripzonter]

@@spider-man5544 She has second skill to knockback the enemy, and the first skill to run away from enemy.

[@chongcarsonmoe6506]

I use natan over 200 matches and I think it's kinda good with attack speed build. You need to win early game than end the game fast with natan or else you with lose late game. Natan can win team fight when the tank take all the damage from the enemy.

[@Darex718]

Lul just reloaded KZbin and found this video that was published five seconds ago

[@rhyanlumilay6317]

Actually I noticed that whenever I team up with a player who picked Layla, I make sure to support her since most of the time I play Support/Roamer Minsi/Khaleed/Julian/JH, Xavier/Zhask/Vexana, YSS/Popol and honestly out of 10 layla team mates just 3 or 4 of them are total idiots.

[@demonicwidowz4052]

Kazuki then last letter of your redemption code is hard to see more like a rectangle shape

[@BeepRobloxYT]

they should make hanabi skill blink like other ninja

[@Bomon1k]

Kazuki store is trusted 100 percent but it’s little slow arrival of 💎 😊

[@beedupbee8139]

Miya and Layla are either really good or really bad but are somehow always picked and it stresses me out 😆

[@ahnsa2364]

True ❤ , and thank you , i liked the new tier thin that you have added.

[@TheGoat_247]

Depending on the player not the hero.

[@dianneabu9184]

Yeah I agree

[@billyt6841]

This not work on mythic glory

[@invincible9659]

These words don't exist in mythical glory

[@CrownLance]

As a Natan user i still use him, Even if it's a ranked game he is really good for me and i use mage build for extra damage and Haas Claws for Lifesteal.

[@Kiyotaka67893]

Me after watching beto Miya video. Seeing Miya in list:🗿

[@Baddas_]

Same lol, I also copied the build but yeah in rank matches there are better picks than miya

[@Kiyotaka67893]

@@Baddas_ like Beatrix 😂

[@Baddas_]

@@Kiyotaka67893 I mean yeah why not? Still kinda afraid to play her became of her complexity hehe, although I have her 😂

[@Kiyotaka67893]

@@Baddas_ the tension when we play Miya Mind: fuck me Teamates: fuck you Enemy: ez win

[@romrom_official-7537]

Old Hanabi and tigreal will be really good tho tigreal will ambush the 5 enemies that gathered then use his ult then Hanabi will use her ult which means stunning the 5 enemies for 2 seconds which is a really good combo

[@jpmemorialpurposeonly9644]

As an mm main,,, I should say all mm is gud wen support properly

[@stfu_trash95]

That's what we are talking about. Some mm are good without support. That's why they are better

[@akiotakahashisan]

I build natan with two magic items and 3 defensive items if the enemies have so many burst heroes( tanky natan always gives me an advantage in early game teamfights)

[@PrimordialDemon414]

As a Natan main, I can only say, Bring back crit Natan…

[@piscesofficial8673]

Idol can you help my channel?💚💚

[@bright_side1686]

I wish they change it back where Natan benefits alot from physical, I can feel the different before and the after . He was scarier before like you didn't even want to to go out side and meet him huaahhaa

[@piscesofficial8673]

Idol can you help my channel?💚💚

[@X0Muhannad0X]

i think irithel just needs buff on the her 2skill like she can use it and move at the same time her early is not bad like you say she can deal damage

[@elanurakdeniz2883]

My main is hanabi, and my rate win with her is really good. I like the update only the ult is still very week besides of that i love her and it makes me sad to see her at the worst mm :(

[@raf2016]

I play natan a lot this ssn and I have to say he's actually really good he can deal a lot of dmg and he's decent early game I don't think he should be on this list but then again you're using stats so I get it

[@Isoyajr45510]

Topics aside, I'm always amazed on how Kazuki knows what pictures of the heroes was best to use in the video's thumbnail.

[@darmsban5120]

Hey guys I recently bought Yin and I'm having trouble using him. Can anyone recommend me a guide or something. I always get penalties for feeding so pls help

[@orin998]

Watch high points yin player. Gameplay, rotation and build.

[@bubuthefooll]

Just look for a tutorial and some gameplays, it helps so much if u dont understand his mechanics and rotations

[@zorandire3946]

The top marksman heroes having dashes is a sign of the general weaknesses of this class in the game.

[@YFDXD]

The win rate doesn't decide the best and worst. For example Miya and Layla have a very low win rate because they are played mostly in lower ranks where It's always a 50 /50 . And you have hero's like Lolita for example which always gets the highest win rate, because she is used in higher ranks squads. Also a big reason for why Natan has a very low win rate because most people are confused about how to build him. Every time I meet him in a game I see him with a different build. That's why his effectiveness is lowered. Also a hero's 50% win rate doesn't mean I will most likely win 5 of 10 matches with him. I have a win rate of 72% 120 + games with Hanabi, and 66% win rate with Natan with 100+ games. Both are in the current season. Also the highest hero's win rates doesn't surpass 60% in the official side. So don't use the win rates as an example of a hero's effectiveness. But I agree with you, these 5 hero's desperately need buffs.

[@MCJANNRULE]

I'm a natan main so his effectiveness is on team fight but in early game natan is squishy as hell so choosing him needed to have good teammates too

[@drac_frost]

thats the most pick in indian mythic server

[@ryuu9370]

I would love to argue about natan being on this list but…. You have a point, natan gets countered so easily it’s frustrating

[@backshotter4k]

watching after a year , Natan is a menance now straight up bully

[@LuffyTaro-sj9bz]

This is just my opinion, but I think it also depends on the person that's using it

[@dianneabu9184]

Yeah I also agree, because even if that hero is bad and all but if the player has alot of different strategies, and etc. They can still dominate even if they are using a worst hero. And also in the team composition, if your team is good then its a big plus

[@LuffyTaro-sj9bz]

@@dianneabu9184 facts

[@acatcheckingitstemperature394]

Natan is pretty much hard to win with because hes secretly difficult to play. I don't see him as much of a problem to play with since I know how to play him efficiently, with the right combos and farming, he can get the turrets easily when the enemy is busy in a teamfight or after getting ambushed to death

[@bobrosson5251]

Recently just picked up nathan. I got no clue what to build on him, nor what emblem to use. But he seems to work so far no issues

[@ReihnakaFirefly]

As a irethel user I agree cause her damage is still low and as her attack speed is slower than normal mm, but when late game comes shes unkillable

[@CJSpade39]

Say hi to my saber and hilda.

[@alexreidzero1357]

@@CJSpade39 say hi antiques and wind of nature

[@yummyyamyam]

@@CJSpade39 Say Hi to my Wind of nature 🤣🤣

[@GUNI_KUN]

@@CJSpade39 in late game mm don't stay alone so killing them is kind of hard if they position well behind the team 🤌🏻 and wind of nature exist sooo...

[@sbtig9637]

Nah...after the buff on attack speed items..she isn't that effective anymore...even in late game.

[@donkay.9928]

If mm feel useless they can always split push or solo lord whenever the enemy hyper is distracted or dead

[@chun-lisfan7366]

Mage Natan At the Corner watching: My power is beyond your understanding

[@tys0n822]

Common bro the redeam which u r showing has 5 digit where in website it has 4

[@kaguya4life]

as a lesley main, i think bc they made lesley badder, it surelyyy made my lesley worse. and i mostly agree how u made lesley in the bad list, i found that when u farm on gold lane, sometimes it wont give u gold, as in a result making you delayed

[@danielronghang568]

Layla needs 100 % revamp , waiting for this !!!!

[@Archaoen0]

As a layla main, i don't think a full revamp is necessary, but a reasonable adjustment to make her compete in the meta is needed.

[@keepupthebeat8871]

Layla should be removed from the game ngl

[@Archaoen0]

@@keepupthebeat8871 maybe you should be removed from the game

[@Chinatsu_Kano]

Whatever you say, those epic/legend rank players wont stop picking these useless heroes.

[@yz_tsr]

when you saw layla in blazing gun, you can assume that player is good as f

[@ycz8841]

Listen to Kazuki guys especially when he made calculations😤

[@jamesc5893]

hanabi fr needs dash skill, and improve her damage and physical scaling on her first skill

[@markmalngiang4786]

As a Miya main I totally agree with this. She really need some adjustments in her skills for early game capability and survivability.

[@barisogrimmar]

5:42 I play her with Shield build like Rosegold and Tank item just to bait Enemy Use shield as Battle spell, she has new Passive

[@EFTZ8430]

Any mm is worst in hands of my teammates.

[@popoboy6349]

personally natan is just miya but better because he actually does good damage early game which carries into late game with the recent buffs to golden feather of heaven

[@GenesisCruzerNeo]

No mm is worst based on winning%, it's all about how 5 player play together

[@eidelmagarang4695]

As an old natan main crit build is so efficient that in the late game the enemies can't end match because high damage of natan

[@Rokuovilhou92]

Instead of Nathan it should be Popol kupa

[@stickeemochee]

yss didn't make into the list ;-; hanabi is good in late game although you need at least 3 or 4 items to for her damage/speed to be good mostly i use her for clearing lanes, push or if the team wants most of us have skills that can stun enemies

[@razorgaming4796]

those winrate depends upon our teammates and enemies

[@chiromlanchenba5783]

I think if natan's ultimate can be used more than 1 time it will become more effective

[@ee.el1n4]

I love Natan because of his high damage and speed effects,and he can easily melt down any enemy hero but he just lacks mobility and other then that hes such a good hero i was able to reach mythic by using him.. For build i use arcane boots,feathers of heaven,genuis wand,golden staff,concentrated energy/dhs,and last i use wind of nature or athena

[@TheGreatgan]

Hanabi 1st skill need foresight, need to be able to time it right before you need it. I had 100% winrate in 5 matches this season, with her, but for sure it wasnt a mm you can use on every matches.. she need a dedicated tank to protect her too. So hanabi are sort of ok, if you are duo or trio n she is a good counter againts double or triple tank enemy composition. Remember to never use her in solo or full squad and never 1st pick.

[@ThisIsAStrangeMan]

For a natan main I use the trinity build gs dhs and Cs even tho it can be countered by wind of nature his attack speed will kill the people with wind of nature with magic damage

[@yuki09297]

As a Layla main, I'm neither offended nor hurt. I'm immuned to people shitting on her at this poit

[@subscriptionsaccount]

Natan was good when he used to be able to solo push

[@gian8518]

I quite agree with ur final tier list! I just didn't expected Lesley in tier D 🤔 I like this kind of videos 😁

[@janinebelleestrada7096]

Because she's not a meta marksman, she's the worst gold laner and is better off as a sub roamer if someone insists on playing her. Her one shot burst is good but don't pretend that she's stronger than all the other marksmen. AD strength is determined on how much they can deal damage in a span of a second thats why they are vital in pushing towers and objectives and even as the carry. Fast untouchable marksman are the most efficient. And wanwan right now is the strongest marksman in mlbb

[@keyanims1978]

@@janinebelleestrada7096 such bs, karrie is way better than wan wan. Wan wan is not what it used to be aftr the nerf

[@MarkIsTiredAlways]

@@keyanims1978 I think there both good

[@MarkIsTiredAlways]

@@keyanims1978 don't think the nerf on wanwan work since she can still kill 3 or 4 enemies with one ult while being invincible

[@MarkIsTiredAlways]

@@keyanims1978 but karrie does true damge

[@free_spirit2100]

I am pretty sure Hanabi is good as long as someone tank properly for her. Her skill 1 is better too.

[@Ganexh-888]

Its not about the marksmen it's about how u play

[@illusion6661]

Me looking at lesley being D tier hurts mee

[@chillingretribution]

I only use natan for about 6 matches but he's pretty good with mage build

[@fraughtsteam6863]

Well the thing is hanabi wasnt changed much. Her s1 is her old passive and her passive her old s1 thats about it

[@Phonkdedrmze]

Miya is OP when she completes only corrosion scythe and golden staff

[@1stdyna-mike555]

Natan is insanely strong for go big or go home situations XD

[@Regot]

I see Illutions in Thumbnail , we are comrades

[@KazukiOfficial]

aye aye

[@Prounce]

It's so hard to find a match in mg i am solo zzz i waited 5mins still no match everytime -_-

[@ムンクミン]

I think all mm is good if its in the right hand

[@Introverted_kurt]

As a natan main, I missed the old natan where It can benefit both physical and magic pen, also the old ult where he dash towards its clone and its old passive where it was a fix attack speed unlike now it scale with lvl

[@Introverted_kurt]

Moontoon could have changed both physical and magic pen to only magic pen but kept the fix attack speed and old ult

[@piscesofficial8673]

Idol can you help my channel?💚💚

[@Brycesavagenewfox]

@@Introverted_kurt nop old ulti was different when natan released newly + ulti was only for fast hand players

[@stranger_editz8321]

My experience with natan has been quite good ever since I have been playing with 2 of my friends one being the tank and the other being the jungler natan is effective if the enemy team doesn't get all their attention on you in a team fight or from the early to late game dying first in a team fight would be the worst move while playing natan so I usually use my ult and wait for others to target me and tp to the other place while my other friend stuns.Itz just a bit hard escaping heros that have high burst dmg but I think that's every mm's counter

[@nayannilimsarma7075]

Well moskov's second skill is like annoying nowadays... His passive already give him so much upper hand and when you get struck by his second skill it's impossible to do anything... 😑

[@manosncs0ft665]

Its funny cause Natan before this dog revamp was rly rly stronger now he is rly good in mid game cause in early too weak and late when everyone is full build burns like paper

[@obitohyfgisme9603]

What they really need to revamp is "Zilong" they called him assassin and fighter but he don't have "Dash+CC+Immunity"that others fighter and assassin have and he's too squishy rarely escape any team fight without getting killed. He's the easiest and the hardest hero to used☹️

[@lekoknightgaming8071]

How is zilong hard to play? He's one of the simplest heroes in the game can oneshot any squishy hero easily, so fast that even enemy tank can't react. And he's super fast to begin with

[@the-luck-hunter]

natan's buff made him usable again ngl, his cooldowns on his ult is damn stonks, if he gets nerfed tho... he will suck a lot

[@kyleplayz8475]

Aside from Hanabi, the others were actually pretty good for me and I have a massive winrate with both Layla and Miya

[@Inazuumaa]

I guess the new Hanabi buff will make her meta on the next update...