Did AEW Fumble PENTA?

[@alexherbert5783]

I would say the match was more than alright.

[@whitest_rabbit69]

Same, gable sold the shit out of that Canadian destroyer. That alone is a Dave meltzer 8.6 stars lol

[@cadendicky1855]

Quite a lot more than alright in my opinion, maybe a botch here or there, but I and others didn't mind that much, it happens sometimes, and the crowd still loved him the whole way through. He was definitely better in this one debut match than Sin Cara was in his whole WWE run at least.

[@Haterade420]

@@cadendicky1855at the beginning he was nervous. Match got better afterwards.

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

​@@cadendicky1855 Why'd you say that name?! Never say that name!!

[@cadendicky1855]

@Haterade420 yup

[@FilmInsanity]

"Alright" for probably the best Debut match in the modern era.

[@mynameisnotearl4383]

The match was full of botches on penta send

[@FilmInsanity]

@mynameisnotearl4383 Besides a failed leg drop, what other distracting botch were there in a 15-minute match?

[@humbleboyethan]

@@mynameisnotearl4383he only botched the leg drop. give me a break 😒

[@_______________2001]

Alright? Match was fantastic

[@trilljosh7]

im sayin dude triping

[@rubenayalabravo1367]

Hahaha I knew I wasn't the only one 😂

[@christianrodney7124]

not enough no selling and Canadian destroyers for him

[@mynameisnotearl4383]

The match was clunky at best

[@BenjiXAddictX4Ever]

The real question is who _didn't_ AEW fumble?

[@jimmylopez5702]

Ric Flair

[@jordannnokwam4691]

Saraya

[@Mmmmchimkin]

​@@jimmylopez5702 Woooooooooooo **Falls face first into the mat** 💀

[@platinummax8393]

How is that a real question.. are you really pretending there are talents Aew hasn’t treated better than wwe? Swerve, ftr,Moxley, Claudio , Toni storm just a few I’ll even add ricochet

[@ktmoney929]

Swerve and tony Stom

[@eduardofranco8528]

First thing, Pente vs Gable wasn't "alright", it was great. Second, The Lucha Bros, just like FTR, Private Party and every other tag team in AEW, suffer from the fact that no team will EVER be allowed to be more over than the Young Bucks, every time a team is on fire, AEW do something to take their momentum away.

[@centristamerican7845]

It was a bit sloppy at times. Be real.

[@LightChaser2099]

Hey who did the young bucks lose the tag titles to in 2021?

[@jmfordaliza3139]

the guy's an AEW supermark.

[@alcastro5767]

@@LightChaser2099and where are they now in 2025??

[@micahjohnsonboxing6409]

Meat riding.

[@nickchivers9029]

No. Fumbling implies they tried to get him over and failed. They didnt even try because they dont have a clue.

[@seanblake7554]

I believe that means they fumbled him

[@wanerbdjs]

I wouldn't say they didn't try. Lucha Bros won multiple titles and had several iconic matches. While I wouldn't say they were pushed perfectly, I wouldn't say they were botched...unless you're talking penta as a singles star. Now that I think they fumbled. I would of liked seeing a singles run out of him.

[@heyguySucks]

I also blame Fenix injury and Pac's visa issue

[@mikemadsen7926]

​@wanerbdjs I mean they started off decent but once aew signed a bunch of wwe guys the lucha bros got sidelined for atleast the last 2 years

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😁

[@kenterminateddq5311]

It's cool to see the WWE Universe give PENTA a HUGE reaction during his debut. Just like other former AEW stars, WWE was able to treated PENTA better than Tony Khan.

[@wanerbdjs]

I'd like you to be right but relax for now. It's just one week. WWE isn't perfect. For all we know he'll get the dragon Lee treatment (god I hope I'm wrong)

[@jessegonzalez4518]

​@@wanerbdjs who is dragon Lee?? I know about Penta he's been killing it for almost a decade now. Don't no this dragon Lee. Please don't compare lmfao

[@khesipresents1885]

​@@jessegonzalez4518so Penta will be different?once again..give it a chance and see how HHH books Penta like wait atleast 6 months to a year to build an idea how Penta career might go

[@hakimdiwan5101]

@@wanerbdjs Dragon Lee is a rookie while Penta is a veteran. Ain't no way Trips is gonna book Penta like Lee. He is not a Looney Khan. Besides look at track record of every one who jumped after Cody they all are doing better even Ethan Page in NXT is better than he was in AEW.

[@synceresanders4592]

Damn just alright ?

[@luiselizondo7030]

His Run in Mexico back in AAA was nothing less of spectacular. From his start in "Perros del Mal" to him unmasking "Hijo del Fantasma". It is also important to note that it seems that he has broken the "Pentagon" Curse. All other Pentagons have suffered serious injuries, including the Original Pentagon who was paralyzed for some time.

[@jimmymoranchel2510]

He didn't unmask el hijo del fantasma, that was actually L.A Park. Pentagon Jr unmasked Villano IV at Triplemania XXX

[@ZeroFearWrestling2K]

AEW decided to make a Hologram mask before a penta, Rey, And devil mask

[@LightChaser2099]

Lucha bros wouldn’t let them sell them

[@joaquimaraujo96]

AEW couldn't sell it lol it was Penta and Fenix or the company would get copyright are u dumb?

[@micahjohnsonboxing6409]

Stupid comment, they didn't own it. AAA had the copyright.

[@ChrisCash720]

Aew isn't real.

[@jayflash9051]

Stoped watching when you said the match with gable was “alright, I guess…”

[@mikemadsen7926]

I mean what is this guy smoking. Match was a banger

[@JCneverFails]

Thanks for telling me. Not gonna watch.

[@mynameisnotearl4383]

The match was alright is not a bad review, you wwe fans are too damn sensitive

[@JCneverFails]

@mynameisnotearl4383 no its just a stupid take.

[@jayflash9051]

@@mynameisnotearl4383 😂😂😂

[@TCGFunhouse]

Absolutely. AEW is a masterclass on how to ruin your wrestling company. Cody, Punk, and Penta should all still be there. PERIOD

[@ArsanyTheGod]

Tony khan absolutely did

[@noeljoynerlucasfanguillen3504]

Him ricky starks miro keith lee Ethan page rey feinx

[@mynameisnotearl4383]

Not

[@SaulAguilar.]

Penta got over in 20 minutes than he did in 5 years at aew.

[@ItDoesntMatterReally]

Lucha Bros were over, but there were constant issues with how and when they were used. Either Fenix was hurt, Pac was out so Death Triangle stuff stalled, or visa issues were the big reasons they weren't steadily or prevalently used.

[@micahjohnsonboxing6409]

He'll be buried in a ninth.

[@richardsinclair7661]

Gonna take it as you've never actually seen any of his matches in AEW. Dude was crazy over. Every time he did his catchphrase in his entrance, or in matches, they were some of the biggest pops of the night. Not anyone's fault that Fenix and Pac were often injured, as well as having visa issues.

[@idkbro8470]

Y’all kids be saying anything. What an absolute braindead take.

[@popskies]

It's just his first match. Let's see if how his run goes. Considering the LWO, Wyatt 6, they went nowhere starting from an awesome debut.

[@javigar133]

Lucha brothers feuding with Fraxiom... That would be cool

[@mrorange8576]

Wild how AEW never released Penta mask merch.

[@elcactusdelamuerte506]

They tried but couldn’t get the rights

[@danielduquette5588]

I don’t know if they could, I think I heard the Lucha Bros had exclusive merch contracts with another company prior (possibly in Mexico). But I have zero facts to back up that theory, so I could be very wrong.

[@bannebigfoot48]

@@danielduquette5588they had Lucha republic based in LA. They sold their mask their

[@VesBox-s2g]

Your point stands, but I wouldn't want a mask made by PWT. They're less than great at shirts as it is. But yeah, AEW's merch situation is kinda mindboggling. Especially at live events. It's like how WCW never put out any home video. They were owned by Ted mf'n Turner, media giant and couldn't figure out tapes and DVDs lol

[@TeddyBearrrs]

In spite of all the negative social media counter-reactions, they handled the situation with Penta professionally. The responsibilities of his next contract were too big for AEW to take on due to bad timing and karma. Due to his age (39) and vulnerability to injuries, he had to move on after earning his credits. The main thing he wanted was to be at WWE to experience it for the first time in his career. AEW aided him in reaching his destination.

[@czynx3196]

My wife came in whilst I was watching this match and said "oooh, I like his costume" 😅

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

Best ring gear in the business.

[@mynameisnotearl4383]

That’s all he’s got. Penta got a million dollar look ITS his ring ability that suffers.

[@ProtomanButCallMeBlues]

@@MADGUNSMONSTER Him and Danhausen just capture attention with the look.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

Penta is a favorite of mine. His presentation was appealing to me and his in-ring abilities brought me closer to all elite wrestling in general. When I realized his age and the number of times he was injured recently, it made me ponder the business side of things for a moment.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

In reality, WWE is acquiring previously used, cautious talent, which may be referred to as underappreciated talent, but the situation is being treated negatively by upheld fans. As though they should feel comfortable in one place for the entirety of their careers. Business is what this is about. Throughout their career, wrestlers are required to eat and gain more accolades. There's nothing surprising about that. WWE's ability to deliver presentations to a larger audience is undoubtedly something I believe deserves praise.

[@BtotheLT]

Penta was one of my favorites from AEW. The roster has changed so much. Its not the same company it was 5 years ago. Some of the fan hate is too much between companies and with the narrow minded perspective things are missed. Penta had a lot of great matches, and is a great performer. I never saw him cut a post match promo like the one he did at his WWE debut. it was really cool. However, AEW did do a good job letting death triangle do their thing; had a cool trios series with the elite. Won tag gold in a cage match. Really cool stuff. I would encourage WWE fans to check out some of Penta's, and lucha bros, matches when they're available on Max. He is really my favorite probably.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

Facts 😛

[@TheSilencer1776]

I never defend AEW or Tony Kahn but..... I wouldn't say they intentionally "fumble" anyone. They did an okay job, but he obviously reached his glass ceiling there. The dude is 40, and had to move on. WWE's production is absolutely second to none, and Penta is just another example of how they constantly make wrestlers look like absolute superstars. Tony Kahn has a lot to learn in the wrestling business, even after 5 years.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

Exactly. Hes always gonna be an All Elite wrestler. Now he can deliver something fresh to World Wrestling Entertainment. No pun intended.

[@mikewilson858]

Yeah, AEW fans point out the times they held titles but it was the time they didn't have titles that stunk. Fans loved them. I wanted more of these guys. At the end they were used to re establish the Bucks. You got guys kind them, Jerchio, Moxley’s crew, that are always in top angles and stories and the ratings on those segments drop.

[@extremegeorge11]

The moment AEW and CMLL got into a partnership that is when they lost interest on Penta. It's evident.

[@diendong]

He has many great matches along with Rey Fenix in AEW including being in the best steel cage match versus The Young Bucks. Penta is accomplishing his long time dream wanting to be in the WWE. I personally wanted Penta to be the first luchadore AEW world champion but their roster is so stacked right now with incredible talent.

[@kaifkai970]

What if next year rey fenix come and attack penta from behind and accuse him that how bad he felt when he was in the cage penta left him building a feud for any big four pay per view

[@themadviking5746]

Did they fumble him ? Yes and no . He's a multi company world champion but he got like one match vs Omega . But he's a tag guy , he got the gold , the trios gold , that universal title , do did his brother . They both got hurt , ALOT . You get hurt plans change , the company moves on for TV and ppv storyline 's to push . Those guys were not neglected or abused , they were top guys yes after 5 years and Fenix out hurt again he wasn't on TV. You know a wad of cash was offered to them and they took it . AEW has been around 5 years plus the brothers didn't grow up with dreams of wrestling in AEW , it was to wrestle for the WWE . Penta is 40 it was now or never .

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😇🤗

[@mooretoys94]

I wouldn't say aew fumbled him more so than penta and Rey hit their ceiling in aew. Glad to see penta in wwe he deserves it and hopefully Rey will join him soon.

[@TheAc550]

Also factor in age, it’s more of a now or never situation for their careers as well!

[@gloomy9728]

@@TheAc550 Man, they're trying to push Jeff Jarrett in the world title scene in 2025. Age means nothing in AEW lol that is no excuse.

[@TheAc550]

@@gloomy9728 Age to Penta & Fenix matters. Why would they sign 5yrs with AEW again when in 5yrs they will be well into their 40’s? I get what you’re saying with Jarret but that’s a completely different topic of age😂

[@SUPERTROOPER89]

The Penta/Fenix situation is emblematic of the issues in AEW

[@WoodRumble]

His match with Gable was more than just "alright" especially since Gable is a technical wizard, probably the best is the business and Penta was able carry his own without changing his style just fine.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😝🥸

[@TeddyBearrrs]

In regards to CM Punk, his departure from WWE was not exclusive. He was dismissed from WWE. He didn't simply quit working at AEW. There was a reason why he was dismissed from AEW. He stated that he would never ever wrestle again, as per his statement. AEW made a gamble by offering him a historic chance, but he couldn't cope with the typical wrestling political antics. Fans are still split on whether or not he can still compete with the best of today. Although his mic skills are excellent and he can deliver impactful lines, his in-ring ability feels overused.

[@davidjsaul]

And now Tony is refusing to release his tag partner despite clearly having no plans to use him again - just so Triple H can't sign him and show Khan how to properly book.

[@elcactusdelamuerte506]

Unfortunately both sides suck. From everything that’s came out the Lucha bros were acting like twats rubbing the fact they were leaving in his face and essentially thinking they could walk all over him. TK’s argument would be he’s damned if he does damned if he didn’t as if he keeps them he’s the bully, but if lets them go he’s a push over and coward. Although the counter to that is we already know he’s a push over

[@radandpaisley]

the match was alright? Brother, its not Lucha Underground, but that match was way more than alright

[@bigmeetssmall7522]

Penta is a star in the making haven’t really watched much AEW but I was a big Lucha underground fan back in the day and I remember I once tuned into AEW and seen he was in a team with Fenix and Mexican Kevin thorn was walking them out I actually couldn’t believe my eyes

[@johnnyjrkirch4952]

Penta said it himself he always wanted to end up in WWE so AEW didn’t fumble. He just wanted more money.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😁😅💪🙌🤑

[@TeddyBearrrs]

Although AEW doesn't fall under the category of a developmental promotion like WWE's NXT, they often develop younger talent, giving wrestlers the opportunity to gain experience before making it to the main events. As an example, Jade Cargill was one of the initial members of AEW. Her age of 32, with her push, is a difficult decision to make. Ultimately, this is a business. Although her presentation was good, her ring skills were not up to par. To excel in the broadest sense, you need both.

[@EnviousSince]

As a huge Penta fan its never really mattered to me where they were because as stated in this video they moved around alot, but I appreciate how him moving to WWE is being treated almost to the level of the big signings AEW got from new Japan.

[@kadharefinley224]

At the start of AEW no he didn’t get fumbled because he and Fenix had some great matches, also used regularly on TV but later in their run definitely got fumbled

[@7Evolved7Shadow7]

The matches, and being regularly on TV is meaningless. In my view the word fumbled is being used as in WWE were able to make Penta feel like a really cool mega star far beyond than what AEW could do when they had Penta.

[@JT-bs2lm]

Yeah but their last 2 years, Fenix was mostly injured.

[@welowee7610]

They decided to push Daniel Garcia & Wheeler useless instead of Penta lol

[@Abel_Unstable]

I stopped watching AEW for a year, just realized 9 months ago had a tons of drama(which more interesting than the wrestlings lol) and now Penta goes to WWE, so Im gonna watch WWE again now.

[@syxxpoppin8830]

Penta ricochet

[@TeddyBearrrs]

The way my dude drew this is as if he's playing the role of general manager in WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2006.

[@michaelholmes9810]

Chad Gable, I'd argue, is one of the most reliable and effective wrestlers for putting wrestlers over of all time.

[@samdath3439]

Penta is definitely on my list to wrestle.

[@Miguel-mp7uz]

Right after Ander the gnat and macho guy Randall travers right?

[@mr.awesome6011]

​@@Miguel-mp7uz Don't forget The Average Warrior and The Hundred Dollar Man

[@DivineHybridd]

​@@mr.awesome6011what about Long Island Luke Logan? Perhaps a not-so-fly Johnny Hookah? Better yet, Dicky Tugboat? If that wasn't enough Deshaun "the Boulder" Bronson.

[@matheusvasconcelos4938]

I don't think AEW fumbled Penta, of course those who watched LU know what he's capable of, however the AEW roster was so stacked that it was hard to feature him or Phoenix as singles competitors, so they were treated only as a tag team, which imo, they did a great job with what they were given.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😅🥸

[@thetruej7872]

Tony Khan definitely fumbled Penta. Penta Oscuro could've been a good singles run in AEW, but Tony did nothing with it. Lucha Bros in AEW as a whole hasn't been great.

[@ktmoney929]

Lucha bros were amazing in early AEW imo

[@thetruej7872]

​@@ktmoney929 In the beginning, sure.

[@Lonnyboss70]

That's not true because they won gold multiple times in AEW and ROH!

[@Miguel-mp7uz]

​@@Lonnyboss70so a guy having a title In a company where practically everyone has been champion or is one (they have so many ) is an accomplishment? Oooook

[@JT-bs2lm]

Yeah like how WWE is fumbling Chad Gable? He was so over during that Intercontinental title feud.

[@TheMC1102]

AEW got Prince Puma, WWE got Pentagon Dark. I think it's a fair exchange.

[@JT-bs2lm]

Yes just like how WWE fumbles Chad Gable. He was so over during that Intercontinental title feud.

[@TheAc550]

Wyat Sicks, Dragon lee too🤭

[@TeddyBearrrs]

It seems that fans want All Elite Wrestling to keep some of these talents as hostages for an unforeseen reason. Yes, wrestling is a business, but it's also a sport. There are plenty of wrestling companies to fulfill your passion for the sport. Don't despise aew if your goal is for them to to emulate a company that excels at better storytelling than most. It's similar to comparing UFC to TNA. The first one is all about genuine high-risk reward fights, while the second one is about low-budget storytelling that seems more neutral with wrestling and achievements.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

Cody's decision to switch from elite wrestling to WWE was logical. This is a business. He has been given the chance to do something and he has given it his all, indicating that he has almost finished the story! Life is full of twists and turns. His destiny was to go back and win additional accolades, demonstrating that it's possible to earn more outside of your comfort zone.

[@MiamiSunrise]

Agreed that you should do some merch based episodes. Worst merch, best merch by year, biggest misses for merch etc.

[@jesterr7133]

When the eventual "Downfall of AEW" special comes out, one of the things that will be talked about is Tony's failure to pull the trigger on Penta. It was obvious a decade ago that Penta was going to be a big deal one day. Penta came to AEW and managed to get himself massively over without ever speaking a word of English, or even cutting a promo. He even got a Spanish catch phrase over. What he managed to do in AEW is nearly impossible to do. Penta should have been a top guy by early 2021. Penta is going to be the next Eddie Guerrero/Rey Mysterio level Hispanic mega star. He is what WWE has been looking for for years, and they know it. They are about to strap the rocket ship to Penta, make a shit ton of money, and make Tony look like an even bigger goof.

[@ElMundoDeHadesOK]

Fumbling? nahhh.. they were massively over with the fans... and both did have a great run.. also outside of wwe, many wrestlers have merch on their own outside of the promotions..

[@brittonmillhouse8310]

You mean to tell me AEW is selling Hologram mask, but Never Sold Penta and Fenix mask?!

[@CapnChris88]

Short answer... Yes. He had some amazing matches in AEW but he should of had a much larger push. I hope Rey Fenix is able to join up with Penta in WWE because they really are one of the greatest tag teams around and anyone who hasn't seen them together should go look up their matches together.

[@HarlemHospital]

meh to early to see if WWE do any better than aew. WWE don't have a good track record with lucha. but who knows Paul might do it better than Vince.

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

That's fair IMO.

[@Miguel-mp7uz]

The question wasn't.......will wwe fumble them, was it?

[@marcespinoza6068]

They've already done better with the fact that they're selling Penta masks.

[@HarlemHospital]

@@marcespinoza6068 yeah possibly. they sold Sin Cara masks too. only time will tell. but so far so good. I like it.

[@elcactusdelamuerte506]

You say that like Paul hasn’t fumbled big signings like Dragon lee and andrade or that all the Mexican wrestlers aren’t involved in faction feuds exclusively with other Mexican wrestlers since he took over

[@Goldenarmnumber1]

This video would have been made no matter what WWE did

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😇🥸

[@ChrisCash720]

He was the only figure at target that stood out. They had him on the shelf next to eddie kingston and pockets. Back in the day Penta the only guy that draws eyes. Also wwe being a real company has merch ready to go. Thats the work

[@JohnDoe-qu7gm]

Imagine Rey Mysterio’s career if he couldn’t speak English well enough to do promos.

[@elcactusdelamuerte506]

Be a bit concerning if someone born and raised in America couldn’t speak the language

[@omigueltavares]

Remember aew didnt sell any unity of penta or fênix masks

[@philipmsearle1399]

They turned Bryan Danielson into a third stringer, which couldn t have been easy as he came in still at the top of his game. He put so many over he buried himself and then his "friend" Moxley covered over the hole with fresh grave soil and packed it in solidly without the memorial stone. RIP, indeed. Penta was criminally underused in AEW, likewise, considering how over he was in LU.

[@vlverm7096]

You knew in aew whenever penta had a singles match it was gonna be an excellent match the fans would go crazy for and would end up jobbing for someone who was in a big match on the next ppv. I loved aew 2019-2022/2023ish ... especially the big tag cage match against the young bucks ... which may have been one of the best matches i had ever seen ... but the last 2 years he was treated as just another guy who put on great matches

[@khbappy7397]

I want to see jon moxley, mjf,Kenny omega, claudio, yuta,pack,malakai black, hangmen adam page, jay white, samoa joe, Phoenix, jack sabar jr, joe haney, in wwe.

[@lilsmurfy8349]

ngl it could be funny if Penta and later Phoenix were put together with Big E as a trio since Kofi and Xavier with their story in wwe rn ditched Big E were harsh with him and seemed like took him for granted, so was thinking maybe Big E has to work with someone as a duo for a bit to slap sense into Kofi and Xavier

[@dranzerjetli5126]

Short answer :- yes long answer :- hell yes

[@zeldabombsquad1144]

What a stupid topic considering he JUST debuted on Raw lmao

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😅

[@Gh0st_702]

Please do a video on AEW’s merch game 🙏🏽

[@Alien_on_earth69]

Real question is who wouldn’t go to wwe 😂

[@TeddyBearrrs]

🤣😇

[@mynameisnotearl4383]

I don’t think so. Probably could have used him more as a main eventer!? People forget quite easily The cage match penta had with his bro and the bucks, it is probably the best tag match with a stipulation ur ever gonna see.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😇😅

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

My favourite ring gear in the business.

[@ms.anthropia]

Penta has been my favorite for a long, long time. They definitely fumbled him during his last years.

[@TheNomadMagician-y3j]

Lucha Bros AEW Run was okay, could've been better. But saying their Run was Bad, is false. They have been Tag Champs & Trios Champs, having great Matches and Fenix won the International Title as well (even tho it wasnt the original Plan). Most Wrestlers Dream of coming to WWE, working for the biggest Company. It just makes sense after their Long Careers, to go to WWE. Winning Gold there.

[@TheNomadMagician-y3j]

Andrade left AEW, cause he thought he wasnt used good. Same Reason which he left beforehand. Only to rejoin WWE, to be used Bad.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😍🤩😛🤑

[@LightChaser2099]

If you actually watched aew you’d know they absolutely didn’t fumble him. His AEW career was amazing

[@elcactusdelamuerte506]

I wouldn’t say being off tv for the last two years, having zero interesting storylines, but having great matches is really an amazing career

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😇

[@LightChaser2099]

@@elcactusdelamuerte506 him being off tv for 2 years is factually incorrect. Where did you even pull that from??

[@rileyanthony]

I would love to see full timeline of penta in aew

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😍🥰🤑

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

For the love of everything Triple H PLEASE DO NOT PUT PENTA INTO THE LWO OR LEGADO DEL FANTASMA.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

😅😆

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

@@TeddyBearrrs Im not joking either! It seems like if ur Mexican/Latino WWE talent ur put into LDF if Heel and LWO if Babyface. The only luchadore to really escape it is Dom And that's because he's not exactly a luchadore (doesn't wear a mask for one)

[@Juicy711]

The match alright ? It was amazing!

[@HIHi-os1lr]

Penta is home ☝🏿

[@hakimdiwan5101]

Yes they did and everyone who watched Penta in Lucha Underground has been saying it for ages! Penta has always been a better fit for WWE than AEW. I mean look at him he got everything WWE would want from a marketable wrestler.

[@awesomelysaucy2919]

You didn’t watch the match if you think it’s “alright”

[@elcactusdelamuerte506]

I mean how else would you describe it? It was a decent debut match. It wasn’t great it wasn’t bad it was just good. It was designed to introduce pentas spots while putting on a competitive match, neither worker put in close to 100%, there was some mistakes, but nothing offensive. It was a solid but unremarkable match. It was alright

[@Tiriban]

WWE doesn't focus on Tag-Team wrestling.

[@billybeeeeeeeeee]

WWE will absolutely make him look okay, but not great, Chad Gable is someone they have had FOR YEARS and has deserved a good push but he never got a chance. WWE is just gonna shuffle Penta into the nothingness they have most NXT standouts, without him having to do it in NXT lol

[@TeddyBearrrs]

It's a part of the game, as you can see. It's similar to the comparison between Playstation and Xbox. More PlayStation users, specifically younger age groups, will be complaining about Xbox users for various reasons, such as not having access to both platforms and etc

[@bannebigfoot48]

I don’t mind fenix being extended for year. It just shows contract tampering has consequences. If tony let fenix go it just shows that he has no balls and he pretty much let’s wwe step all over him

[@eastsidenell]

Everybody aew has fumbled has done more than they ever did In aew

[@beep6437]

I really don't think Penta will be used right in the WWE like some other wrestler that came there

[@TeddyBearrrs]

🥰

[@Arirmar]

If they fumbled him, WWE wouldn’t have been interested. Nice bait.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

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[@benjaminbridge4201]

Match was good but he had 2 adjust to the WWE Style Penta botched his leg drop off the rope but his promo and finish awesome

[@bmbxiii2045]

No its worse actually. They pushed him the best they knew how. Thats fucking sad He’s had so many bangers. And had a great tag title run. But that’s all AEW can do is book you to have banger matches They dont know how to tell stories. They dont know how to do merch. They dont have the marketing machine. AEW is not capable of doing what WWE did with Penta. They dont even know how. So its less so that they fumbled with him. And more so that they wouldnt even know where to start. Its like telling a cat to answer the phone. They dont even get the concept.

[@TeddyBearrrs]

To phrase it differently, they fulfilled their commitment to the progressive agreement when dealing with him. Clearly, his brand still holds value for the competitions available. No matter what their preference may be, there will always be naysayers who are mixed-up.

[@mr30belowAK]

Let’s not pretend WWE won’t put Penta in a tag team with his brother and that is where they will stay for the next 6 months until they get cast aside for other people. Same thing has already happened to MCMG That being said Penta’s run was ruined by his own brother. The injuries as they were climbing the ranks kept tanking their exposure. The Konnan situation didn’t help one bit.

[@marcespinoza6068]

MCMG are a tag team plain and simple, they arent singles stars. Also they are at the tail end of their careers.

[@Fortjul]

I think having to stay off tv due to that other Mexican companies stars was disrespectful

[@pudd66]

Of course AEW messed up. tony k always does. He can't book. Hell, he can't book a time to wash his hair when he's in the shower.

[@IngasPingas14]

Multiple time champion in AEW. No he wasn't fumbled. He left because WWE is his lifelong dream and WWE weren't interested until they saw him in AEW and his contract was up with AEW. Penta is 39, wanna talk about fumbling? WWE is currently doing that with a luchador a decade younger than Penta in Dragon Lee. Lee is 29 and hasn't been booked on TV in nearly 2 months, where he lost a tag team match against American Made.

[@PricefieldPunk]

If Penta was this well recieved just imagine the reception Rey Fenix is gonna get when he lands in WWE. AEW fumbled badly not letting Fenix have a run with the TNT title when he won it by accident.

[@ericgropuis]

Wrong title it was the International but I agree. AEW tries to stick to their plans way to much and don’t know how to pivot

[@JT-bs2lm]

You mean Fenix should have been rewarded after dropping Mox on his head and then later on instead of doing an audible, dropped him on the head a 2nd time? Yeah right.

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

​@@JT-bs2lm Seth was rewarded though, after trying to retire Sting from walking, much less wrestling. Just a comparison......

[@hamburgerhelper5230]

*It was the elite vs dark order and hangman at all out

[@DCeasedbrickbuilds]

Penta should have been booked like in Lucha Underground, but, Tony books for “the sickos”.🤦🏻‍♂️

[@imsljr420]

💯 AEW did NOT fumble him or his brother other than not making merchandise for them (honestly I thought the merchandise WWE would make would be better). You said they would do nothing in between their title runs. Well they can't just be pushing them and not other tag teams that wouldn't be fair for the rest.

[@juliojuarez4033]

Hopefully wwe doesn't fumble pentagon

[@TeddyBearrrs]

🤣😍😂

[@jessehernandez8439]

Lucha bros will be big in wwe!

[@MrBallin5150]

if yall really think wwe is going to give penta a big singles title ur out of ur god damn mind. AEW had him for years and suuuure he is talented but could never break thru just like all ego.

[@orangeblitz4786]

The match was good. It was more than alright. AEW didn't capitalize on making masks, tapping into the Latino market and using Penta more in the tag scene. A match isn't a 5 star match and IWC and weirdo content creators can't appreciate a good match.

[@samdath3439]

Aew are screwing his brother over big time.

[@wanerbdjs]

I'll be honest, I didnt even give Vince crap about adding time for injuries so I won't do it to aew. Fenix is a grown man that signed the deal to a certain amount of time. Doesn't make it right but that's business.

[@Ronald-hk6fk]

Penta is gonna get the Speed belt & peak there seeing how he already reached the glass ceiling since he isn't samoan 😂😂😂