What’s Wrong with this £400,000 New Rolls Royce Ghost Paint?! - FIRST Detail

At Topaz we are famous of our Level 5 Signature Treatment. This 100 hour + process flattens the entire clear coat, allowing for the sharpest possible reflections. This Rolls Royce Ghost Black Badge was suffering from orange peel, which is peaks and troughs in the clear coat, so we fixed that with out Level 5 and then protected the whole care with Paint Protection Film.
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[@Rodo1586]

Pretty sure Rolls just took you off their holiday card list. Stunning that Rolls paint quality has slipped as, historically, paint was their pride and joy

[@loboantonio2486]

What a shame for a rolls royce!the original paint were horrible before,clearly better after. Very nice job.

[@Nick210]

I don’t think you understand what is being done here. There’s no way this level of jeweling can be done at the factory - Rolls Royce would go broke.

[@darrenboston342]

@@Nick210get them to repaint it!!… it is after all there bad paintwork🤔

[@Nick210]

ALL brand new cars have orange peel, even bespoke ones such as these or even Eggs.

[@darrenboston342]

@@Nick210 I’ll ask my cousin…. He works there at the Goodwood factory in the engine department!! RR wouldn’t send out a car like that, I’ve sent him this so he can show it to the managers there, should be interesting!!

[@TopazDetailing]

Koenigsegg are actually one of the few that have very good paint

[@simonh8894]

Hope RR are paying the bill for this

[@pokerpariah]

I'm actually shocked at the quality of the Rolls Royce paint job. That being said, the best paint job I have ever seen on a car straight from the factory was on a Volkswagen Phaeton.

[@maximusheronimus23980]

if you know where to look for as orang peel, then all cars in the world are due for a level 5 treatment.... stunning !

[@MacsMachines]

I saw orange peel in the wing mirror of a RR at the GFS stand a couple of years ago, was really surprised to see it! But nothing like as bad as the new 7 series BMW at this years show…with all the tech we have now I am amazed the flatness is an issue… interesting video 👍

[@pedrolaverga3201]

I thought I was meticulous and demanding you are the best when it comes to artisan professionalism and exactingness It's the small details that distinguish us from the ordinary. Congratulations

[@TopazDetailing]

Thanks for watching

[@_MrRed_]

What a masterpiece, well done 👏 to the whole team! 😊

[@976charlie9]

Will you still get the same gloss level with the PPF? What brand do you use? Great vid

[@zunaidkajee4540]

Just amazing 👏 work. You guys have taken more pride in this beautiful car, getting it up to the standards it should have been before it left RR. I think RR should offer your services on their options list. I am sure most buyers would tick an option to have their brand new RR looking like this, instead of a mini fridge.

[@garyestcourt2377]

Orange peel on a brand new Rolls Royce 🤔 Seriously that can't be right 😧

[@7071t6]

yet it is, even Jay Leno's new 2024 spectre has it, look it up especially when they show a close up of the rear and the front, panels and its a black diamond paint finish as well. 👌🦘👍✌

[@garyestcourt2377]

@@7071t6 Thought they flatted and polished at factory 🏭 maybe not 🤪 WOW!!!

[@ronmccullock1407]

First class work by Topaz

[@froomer17]

TBH - RR should be finishing these cars to that level!

[@garys7828]

Maybe you guys should set up at the rolls Royce site in Goodwood... somewhat amazed that Rolls let that out of QA

[@peterclifton6312]

You turn the best into better amazing work

[@nagyroland9399]

Gyönyörű lett Dani! Mennyi idő volt? Milyen lakk van rajta, és mennyi mikron?

[@patbrady4147]

Awesome content as always but those white accents on the Porsche are stunning.

[@TopazDetailing]

It’s nice!

[@nehuge]

What mils, mm, or microns thickness was the new paint?

[@ianrigby7027]

Why wouldn’t they just send it back to Rolls Royce to fix?

[@101ventus]

Having seen if I was going to order a new Rolls( in my dreams) I would show them this vid and say I will order if you deliver with paint to this standard.

[@torks2339]

Topaz Jesus is back! 🙌

[@luisramirez6159]

Nice , Super Job 👍

[@Ramsi-Berlin]

I love the petrol colour of the speedster leather ❣️😃👌🏼

[@cjtight-linesn.t2604]

Wow what a absolute transformation in the paint work. How Sutch a luxury car company like Rolls Royce could even let that car leave like that is shocking. But like I said you guys have absolutely smashed it. I often bring my son to look at the cars you have outside as he is car mad and we have some pictures with him by them . And some of your staff have been so humble and polite . I mean with them saying dont touch the cars have a gap between the cars and if you post it on social media please block out the number plate. I just wish one day you would see us and let him sit in a car that would make his day . Big love guys 👊💙👊💙

[@TopazDetailing]

Send me an email to [e-mail] and maybe we can organise a private tour (no promises)

[@cjtight-linesn.t2604]

@@TopazDetailing thank you for your reply . And that would be amazing if for my Reece-boy he is absolutely car mad bless him . And I will do . Once again thank you fingers crossed 👊💙

[@matmul4850]

​@@TopazDetailing❤❤

[@szabolcskomaromi]

Raise for Daniel! 🦾

[@nicholassoons5836]

So would the bill for the paint correction go to Rolls Royce? Or is that considered a good enough level of finish by them? I'm assuming with a £400 000 and the Rolls Royce name, they wouldn't want anything less than perfection leaving them, and the client wouldn't expect anything less than that in the first place.

[@mirrorreflectionsautospa]

The complete opposite is often true, (indirectly) due to exotics being more meticulously hand built. When it comes to manufacturing and or the selling of cars, the people involved do not have the know how, skill, time/compensation to perform anywhere near the level of a Topaz or most reputable detailing operations. In fact you usually do not want them to try and perform high end detailing, because it often creates more hidden damage, that an auto detailer is going to end up addressing anyway. Some of the more decently cared for cars (low expectation here) came from the lower end daily driven vehicle dealerships where minimal detailing was performed. I visited a Porsche dealership recently (very nice people) and it was a great experience. With that said, the swirls and marring visible at NIGHT on their signature cars was some of the worst damage I have seen on ""new cars"".

[@niptodstan]

I'd give the dealer the bill. How much is the bill?

[@stuontwo677]

RR should definitely be picking up the tab for this. The paint finish on that value of a car should be impeccable. How did it even pass their QC or PDI before going to the customer. Awful.

[@wrongmark]

I’m pretty sure they would have tried to sell the owner ‘lifeshine’ or some other sub par paint treatment at the dealer. 😂

[@rajvirvlogs1313]

Like always perfection

[@yesandym135i]

How much will it cost wrap a BMW 1 series ?

[@HTFTG]

How smooth is ppf compared to the corrected paint? Feels a little weird to put that on after all that work to make it perfect?

[@OnTrackDetailing]

PPF doesn't add or remove any orange peel (well, the top films anyway. Some cheap imported Chinese film may). If the paint is crystal clear, then it will remain so (I have a video of a Rolls Royce Cullinan Urban on my channel, that I ppf'd, and you can't tell the difference between the filmed and unfilmed panels) PPF does hide swirls, and minor sanding marks, though. It makes sense after this kind of work especially to PPF to protect.

[@jacquesraymond6892]

If i understand well, you are telling use that brand new RR came with an orange peel paint... SHAME ON YOU ROLLS-ROYCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The owner should have ask RR to fix that paint. You guys made your magic once again. CONGRATS.

[@Paris__]

Unfortunately every car manufacture suffers from orange peel. Since the automotive industry started using water based paint, and the paint /body having a positive/negative electrical charge to make it bond. My Ferrari's paint is really noticable, but my pre-1990's models have almost perfect finish.

[@colinashby3775]

Exactly . The move away from enamel paint brought this on. Speaking as a non expert.

[@benjibradshaw69]

Not correct. Incorrect viscosity setup is the reason for orange peel in paint. Technical data sheets have all the information required for a perfectly flat finish out of the gun.

[@colinashby3775]

@@benjibradshaw69 so basically, the manufacturer's have gotten sloppy with their paint

[@Paris__]

@@benjibradshaw69 That would be correct if it were just the odd manufacturer or two, but EVERY single one?!!......Give me a break!😉

[@tomknight217]

If it’s brand new, surely you’d just take it back to the dealer and get it sorted?

[@markbennett6367]

I'm surprised at Rolls Royce letting this one out the door, as they're known to be pretty fastidious.. Can Rolls Royce comment if they're watching ?

[@davidlloyd1485]

I couldn't believe the paint when I saw the 1st BMW phantom orange peel everywhere. I'm even more amazed they still do it today. Well done on the correction looks fantastic!

[@patrick_poliert]

Great Work 🎉

[@michaelwalker1145]

If im not mistaken the RR is painted by hand. Watch eny car show on TV where a car his hand painted and its full of orange peel. Some more prominent than others. What Topaz did here is what most paint shops do ( high end shops) that is. RR should of done this before the customer received his/her car.

[@user-zq7pg2sh6r]

Who in the states would be your equivalent that could do this level of detail?

[@bondy284]

Out of this world 🌎 team !!!!! WOW 👍🇦🇺

[@TopazDetailing]

Thanks for watching

[@ziyaurrahmanqureshi]

Great work 💯💯🫡

[@TopazDetailing]

Thanks for your kind words

[@niptodstan]

Just a question. Do you do normal cars. I’m poor and I’m buying a Kia Sportage. I want ppf on the vulnerable parts. Do you do this?

[@johnwalters878]

Unfortunately you cannot sand orange peel off of most newer cars. There simply isn’t enough paint/clearcoat. Especially Nissan, Kia and Hyundai. Manufactures look for ways to cut cost, and paint is one of them. Your best defense would be a ceramic coating, and/or PPF.

[@mrtopcat2]

Given it is the wavy orange peel that is removed, I would be still interested what sort of thickness is removed from the paint to achieve this. Also would the clearcoat on the Rolls Royce have the same thickness as on a BMW or Mercedes or is it thicker. I have measured the paint of our BMW and it shows mostly around 120 microns with some areas as low as 95 others 135.

[@OnTrackDetailing]

I've worked on a few Rolls Royce. I have an Urban Cullinan on my channel. The paint depths on that were a little higher than regular paint, but not crazy. Most cars are around 90-120. The few Rolls I've worked on are from 120-170. So a little extra 😎 In terms of what you'll remove doing this, it's hard to state as it can vary depending on paint hardness, and methods used (DA sanding, hand sanding, and even the quality of sanding discs you use). But, based on my experience it's approx 5-30 microns depending on hardness. I've wet sanded a VW for example with 1500/2000/3000+, removed the peel and taken only 7-10 microns. Then I did a scratch repair on a Ford and the only with 2000 grit one pass went from 115 micron to 90 😂 So a paint depth gauge is important!

[@mrtopcat2]

@@OnTrackDetailing Thank you for your extensive answer with your insights. Sorry to continue with a follow up question, what you wrote is just too interesting to not ask upon further. So on that Ford repair, you took off presumably 20 microns approximately. So given the unknown, how thick the clear coat may have been, what do you think the long term implications of that much clear may be? Of course, it will make a difference if the car is garaged or not, but generally, would you feel OK with that much clear missing? Similarly I have been wondering about measuring 90 micron spots on our new BMW. Particularly with respect to their location, the near upper the corners of the windshield and on both sides, it is 90. AND on our old BMW this was exactly the spot wehere the clear has failed after about 10 years of California sun (I did not measure paint thickness back then yet, so I only have the location reference). Coincidence? Or is the clear coat in this area really thinner to the point of vulnerability (of course I get it, it gets hit more by the sun on this spot to begin with and hence it heats up more etc.) Never the less, I would be interested in your opinion.

[@OnTrackDetailing]

@mrtopcat2 No worries. Yes we don't know exactly for the clearcoat thickness- as such tools cost thousands and maybe 0.05% of detailers have these lol. Regular Paint depth gauges don't seperate the layers. Generally to take such clearcoat off is not bad. But, not good either. As you have found - the lacquer acts as UV protection. The thinner the lacquer the more the UV can damage the underlying paint. So preservation of the clear coat is important. Assuming ceramic coating / PPF / regular (monthly) waxing, then you will be fine generally. Most mainstream cars will approximately have 30-40 microns of clearcoat. I have burnt through on several test panels and all around 60-75microns when Burn through happens. So generally I would consider over 80 microns "ok" in terms of paint thickness but under this I would not perform heavy cutting. Only a light refinement. Generally around 90 is when I stop sanding.

[@mrtopcat2]

@@OnTrackDetailing Thank you. This is all invaluable information for me. I sort of expected it to be this way, but could not be sure. You confirming it with the results or your testing and experience especially with the burn through values was just so important for me! One thing that I found was that my paint thickness measurement seemed temperature dependent. I am not sure if this was due to my probes temperature dependence or temp related variation of the paint itself. Another issue that I have recognized was the dependence of the measurement of holding the probe perfectly perpendicular to the surface. This seems like a no brainer, but it is easier said than done, especially on the curvier panels. So for my measurements, I was using continuous reading mode and took the lowest reading as my value. I am just starting out with paint correction and eager to learn. So far I have not been comfortable to start using machines (I only have a Makita 9227C polisher, which I only used to apply wax) and used hand method to get out some smaller scratches via scratch-x. So I have a ways to go learning.

[@OnTrackDetailing]

@mrtopcat2 I didnt really find temperature dependant, certainly at "normal" temperatures Many gauges will have a 1~5 micron variance. It's important to regularly calibrate. Even then many "reasonable cost" gauges, you can measure a 50 micron calibration piece, and it may read 47-48-47-52-51-53-48... its an "accurate estimate" 😂 As you have found, ensuring proper measurement is important. Keep going and learning / experimenting, and you will go far! I have a few videos which discuss polishing techniques and paint depths (specifically the MX5 one) if they are of interest / educational value. Good luck in your journey 🙏

[@The_Original_Geoff_B]

RR let this paint finish be released? I hope they paid for the fix.

[@talltexan4710]

I would hope RR made things right with customer about this issue after having it fixed

[@wincolorger]

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[@qs3162]

6:46 puppy tooth when its likely that smaller pattern

[@hermansillem]

Wow such awesome cars and work! Any estimate as for how many hours went into the RR?

[@peterlloyd6337]

It's first class work by Topaz on the RR paint. But where o where were RR? shipping out a car like this? I thought they RR themselves sanded their cars paintwork to ensure no orange peel? Seems not.

[@161BMW]

They do polish it after production.

[@DougS-kg6ty]

No orange peel on my 2008 PT Cruiser GT. Paint still looks 'factory new'.

[@MarcYanOfficial]

It only makes sense for this level of correction if one gets their vehicle ppf'd. Otherwise scratches and swirls will show up for sure within the first month.

[@playgt326]

Rolls Royces must makes its own hypercar with a 1002BHP hybrid V12 (HEV), one more rival for the Valkyrie, Delage D12 adn Ruf CTR3 Clubsport 😋

[@geraintroberts7569]

It might cost £400 000 but most of that will be options and only the phantom will get a wet sanding i guess .

[@user-ok9lb1vt8c]

Like many others are saying, its pretty shocking how it was. I drive a common $30k car and the paint doesn't seem to have that much orange peel.

[@garyestcourt2377]

Agree , but tbh the main area they showed was underneath the rear number plate and as with door shuts pretty much all car's have it there 🤓

[@dvgd999]

for the cost of a RR its paint should be perfect from factory.

[@darius2640]

is it just me or new cars in general have a big orange peel problem, for example BMW who owns RR their F series cars have horrible orange peel, but you look at a car from the 90s even if its a honda civic and it got none of that. I suspect its that watered down ecological save the polar bears paint they are using thats so impotent it just doesnt work for cars

[@m44dicodm25]

The only people I would trust with my car ❤

[@TopazDetailing]

Thank you

[@nikolajovicic174]

Why haven't they address this issue to the RR quality control team instead of burning their own money on a 100 hour paint correction job?

[@mikemartin3204]

The few rolls I've worked on never had the orange peel on them that is shown in this video.not sure where that car came from.

[@M5-Porzellan]

Respect.

[@GARRYEASTON]

Have you received a letter yet from Rolls Royce legal team! lol

[@julianpalmer4674]

If I had paid that much for a car I would reject it as sub-standard. I hope the owner is invoicing RR for the correction cost at Topaz!

[@lynchygt233]

Slight Orange peel isn’t a bad thing, it hides tiny imperfections, it’s hard to keep a perfectly flat paint looking perfect, hence why it needs ppf, you couldn’t just wash a perfectly flat paint like a normal human, you’ve got to be insanely careful not to put tiny scratches in it and ruin it. As they stand out more on perfect paint. If you do you have to flat and polish them out again and again, each time taking clear coat away. They chose the worst areas and worst angles to show the orange peel, like around the rear number plate etc, the bonnet wasn’t like that… Amazing job, but not really necessary or by no means a bad paint job by rolls.

[@OnTrackDetailing]

This is probably the most nuanced and well rounded comment here. Clearly you know what you are talking about. My respect to you sir. Still a good job by Topaz in any event.

[@Jack-hy1zq]

I hope RR paid for the correction work.

[@trollgyozatonydong2400]

After the polishing, the orange peel is off, and with the ppf , the orange peel comes back again!

[@keithwhite9992]

Exactly. Bit pointless in the end

[@davidmuchicko6471]

Owner should have sent that back to the factory. That level of paint isn't acceptable on a Kia, let alone a Rolls Royce. For $400,000, that thing should be a mirror from the factory

[@trueseeker262]

On the Royce documentary they ask the jeweler to reset the diamonds, because its not aline, and up to Rolls Royce standards. So how is the paint so shoddy? Do as a say not as I do!

[@miamimo70]

Disappointing factory finish from Rolls royce, shocker really

[@vatsalshah9423]

"Orange peel" in newly delivered "ROLLS ROYCE" car? Damn!

[@brianiswrong]

Imagine doing all the specs on a rolls royce, probably 2 people employed by the dealer " walking" you through endless options and adding £££ to the list price. Then after waiting for months (if not years) you get to arrive at the dealership, all flowers, champagne and the reveal....... Only to see paint work a dacia owner would be ashamed of.😢

[@harrio7769]

The owner of that Rolls does have taste.

[@TopazDetailing]

It’s a great spec

[@flmovieproduction892]

Factory Rolls Royce paint looks like line-x

[@wolvolad25]

Are Rolls aware of this ?!? How does this pass quality control

[@slagorourke]

Rolls Royce should be embarrassed letting this Ghost out of the factory looking like that. I'd be disappointed if I bought a new VW Polo with paint like this. The finished job looks great though.

[@RobertDevine-rg6uo]

👌

[@velvetjones1856]

Looks as if your wallet is thick enough, Topaz can do any modification one can imagine.

[@habsom1406]

....like taking candy from a baby!

[@4u4000]

We overhype all this stuff so prices get jacked up and the quality drops only to complain later. Having to send a brand new 400k car for paint curing is absurd to me. The most luxurious car in the world my a$$

[@michaelbodie1970]

Are you allowed to say how much this costs? Just in case anyone was thinking about it 😎

[@birdseyevideo]

It’s likely the price of a normal car itself.

[@markjackson6325]

So the owner is paying (probably quite a lot) to fix bad paintwork on a £400k car? That should be going back to Rolls Royce to be done right, or at least billing them.

[@a.c.4732]

How on earth does a brand new Roller have orange peel paint ? ? I'd throw it back at them LOUDLY .... Makes you wonder about the quality of the stuff you can't see if that paintwork is the benchmark ....

[@LiamApilado]

Shmee

[@frankjackter1698]

Unbelievable,Rolls Royce w orange peel SMH!

[@mustimustiman9384]

Waaauw

[@DRM-cu2dj]

They may of had a good deal on this car with a low level finish like that ? From rolls themself how ever not good for the brand i personally would of rejected it.

[@dessertman1181]

Wouldn’t have bought it if paint was bad

[@snider2024]

Should have been taken back to rr .

[@7071t6]

11:13 mark noticed the swirl marks from polishing and now they have a wrap done on it, which locks that in forever, unless they fix it and remove the wrap and then coat it again, plus a wrap will not stop stone chips or swirls from washing the car, the wrap take all that, which then is seen and cannot be removed, unless you take off the wrap all over again the process starts?👌🦘👍✌

[@robmurphy6077]

If you’re not happy with paint especially on a rolls why buy it ??

[@mrharry8466]

That paint job was shockingly bad for any new car. The fact its a Rolls Royce is a discrace to the quality control manager to let that car go out.

[@bits2646]

That speedster ...

[@TopazDetailing]

It’s cool isn’t it?

[@kaptaan5320]

Assalamoalaikum

[@ziyaurrahmanqureshi]

Walaikum Assalam

[@TopazDetailing]

Thanks for watching

No way i'm sanding a Rolls.I'd be terrefied....

[@redstang70]

400k for a car the paint should be flawless, talk about embarrassing for rolls Royce

[@fourgreenfields2721]

Why would some idiot pay 400k for a car which looks like it was done with a rattle can. I would've to RR to keep it !!

[@avioncamper]

Orange peel on a car at this price point is not acceptable.

[@colinbatchford8007]

400k and the paint is like a rattle can flash over.

[@joelbrown2782]

It seems like that the paintwork on modern cars is terrible, especially the German cars or companies owned by German counterparts. They are just full of orange peel.

[@garyestcourt2377]

I've seen Mercedes Maybach covered in orange peel, but didn't think that was the case with Rolls Royce 😕

[@joelbrown2782]

@@garyestcourt2377 that is also bad considering they are expensive as well.

[@gk-ss1zu]

If I were the owner of this RR I'd be sending them the invoice from Topaz

[@joelbrown2782]

@gk-ss1zu I would do the same. Its okay for the average car, but when you spend that much, you want better quality

[@TopazDetailing]

Mercedes usually have a lot of orange peel

[@sparkiegaz3613]

IDE took the car back…

[@johnlummis5119]

I am surprised that paintwork managed to pass quality control at RR because it's awful , I would not have accepted the car , RR should be correcting it for free , by any manufacturing standard , that is bad

[@jays9211]

How does a car make it past quality control a Rolls-Royce with such a crappy paint job?

[@dwftube]

Crikey that's bad! My Mk1 Focus has better paintwork than that!

[@simonlye007]

You seem like a nice chap but there's a lack of clear explanation in your commentary. The shine of a diamond is in no way similar to a professionally corrected paint surface. And, it's best not to use the word 'obviously' in any context. To your target audience there's nothing obvious about it. Replace yourself with a presenter as professional as your detailer. I'm not having a dig, just offering a marketing tip.