Exposing the GASLIGHTING of Loosey LaDuca

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@LunaBeth97
@LunaBeth97 Жыл бұрын
My favourite thing about Mistress in this reunion is saying "I'm a dirty fucking liar" in response to Malaysia then later saying "I'm many things but I'm not a liar"
@doobskywalker1983
@doobskywalker1983 Жыл бұрын
The dichotomy of a queen
@RegisteredHuman-pk3ed
@RegisteredHuman-pk3ed Жыл бұрын
We Stan a versatile queen🥹
@HelloMyNamelsBanana
@HelloMyNamelsBanana Жыл бұрын
she's not a liar cuz she's a dirty fucking liar not just a regular one
@doobskywalker1983
@doobskywalker1983 Жыл бұрын
@Roy Mars Nah Luxx n Mistress are just real drag queens, theyre both confident, shady, and here to have a good time.
@robertbeste
@robertbeste Жыл бұрын
@@doobskywalker1983 Having a good time at the expense of someone else's good time is still a personality flaw that could use a bit more maturity.
@superg6787
@superg6787 Жыл бұрын
Loosey was honestly the pinata of S15. Literally everybody took a swing at her, hoping she would break
@DMann2006
@DMann2006 Жыл бұрын
Stop! Loosey also Gaslights People. Trying to gaslight People into thinking that Beyonce wasn't that pregnant? Then only to admit they were wrong - ONLY IN THE REUNION!
@fightvale57
@fightvale57 Жыл бұрын
I would say she might be an annoying person if everyone took a swing at her. But alright
@umichgal1
@umichgal1 Жыл бұрын
Sick. A lot of people behind the camera and in life are very miserable people.
@2a2777f2g
@2a2777f2g Жыл бұрын
She was Janned 😢😢😢
@Luminousmorrow
@Luminousmorrow Жыл бұрын
Queens always cut up and Loosey just cannot keep up... Everything she got called out for was legitimate, like where were the lies 👀 that being said it's crazy to me she let those critiques affect her at all. She's such an insane talent and needs only a handful of people to listen to criticism from, not everyone. When Mistress kept calling her out she could've and should've played dumb in a cute and villainous way. Play into it. That's what the others did 🫠
@majelalover8837
@majelalover8837 Жыл бұрын
it's so wild that they tried to push walk that duck every episode but the true meme of the season became let loose and all of it happened off the show!
@JoeyLamontagne
@JoeyLamontagne Жыл бұрын
It’s really this versions “Shoulders should match those hips” vs “Back rolls?!?”
@JinMeowsoon
@JinMeowsoon Жыл бұрын
“Walk the duck” is perfect for mainstream social media, it’s a short video with a catchy phrasing and impressive dancing/athletics. It’s garantied to get a lot of views and shares to convert audience. That, Jax’s talent show and Anetra x Marcia lip sync are the only easily marketable social media sequences for this season I think? Let Loose is more of an inner fandom meme, casual fans don’t watch RPDR reviews or follow drag queens online.
@Moonchild-lb3dj
@Moonchild-lb3dj Жыл бұрын
Anetra and walk that duck deserves all the praise and love,Anetra is the only queen that is not cocky and she is full of talent but didnt force herself she is our modest unique beautiful diva 👑💗❤️❤️‍🔥
@JinMeowsoon
@JinMeowsoon Жыл бұрын
Hot take: Anetra doesn’t seem to have a “reality TV show” personality and was apparently quite reserved through filming. Usually girls like that get sent home at some point. IMO producers pushed Anetra so far partly because she gave peak content for social media on the 1st episode and they were hoping to milk more out of her especially since they might not have got a lot of “marketable content” through the season.
@majelalover8837
@majelalover8837 Жыл бұрын
@@JinMeowsoon well honey you know anetra must be carrying a big udder cause girl gave them so much material *smacks lips*
@lauraanderson8785
@lauraanderson8785 Жыл бұрын
I also hated the way Loosey was treated. She was constantly singled out. And also, she was RIGHT, other queens were allowed to complain about their placements and that was fine, but when Loosey did it, she gets bullied and slapped with the delusional/villain edit.
@marcusmelancon3426
@marcusmelancon3426 Жыл бұрын
And it’s the fact that Mistress couldn’t even admit it when asked at Roscos she said she was just being shady and she didn’t know she was hurting looseys feelings when it was very obvious you were she pinned it all on Luxx
@jeanalzaidi908
@jeanalzaidi908 Жыл бұрын
I agree I felt bad for loosey a lot of the time she was purposefully made the brunt of their jokes she got pissy a bit when she didn't win but so did the other girls they just didn't show it as much I think honestly she or selena should have won wigloose they were all amazing in it it really was the best so far but I also think she should have won the heaven challenge too tasha won it because of her head trick but her dolly really was good,honestly nobody really liked loosey
@aleeh2109
@aleeh2109 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I even found myself not liking Loosey until the reunion.. like it’s crazy to think we sometimes forget how edited the show can be but Loosey was genuinely hurt by the treatment that she got and that made me sad, I am glad to see the fandom also changed their perspective on Loosey after the reunion and Loosey seems to be getting more love lately. And “Let Loose” it’s a bop lol
@fightvale57
@fightvale57 Жыл бұрын
She thought she should have won every day. That's not annoying? Lol
@mandysjones3098
@mandysjones3098 Жыл бұрын
​​@@marcusmelancon3426 she's been flip flopping on this. She admitted on Watcha packin that she deliberately played mind games with Loosey and she admitted in the reunion episode that she constantly interfered when Luxx & Loosey would argue because "I'm Mistress, that's what I do" yet when she gets called a bully, it's suddenly "I didn't do anything". And calling out Loosey, her victim, for not defending her. I'm sorry but Mistress is really the worst. Edit: Loosey has let Mistress know to her face how she affected her, so I don't even know why Mistress is still saying they get along? Like, what's wrong with her? Leave Loosey alone.
@ingGS
@ingGS Жыл бұрын
The saddest part is that Loosey really did well in most of the challenges. She was the best in the interviewing challenge yet she was safe. Then put in the bottom in the Rusical when she was clearly a top performer. Plus the makeover… she was the best! 😢
@saesnaughtyprincess
@saesnaughtyprincess Жыл бұрын
Well = Safe. Ask Jan. When you want it so bad you forget to perform from the heart, it shows. You have to blow Ruples sandals and sweats off...
@leonardo.diCATio
@leonardo.diCATio Жыл бұрын
She carried that Rusical, I couldn't imagine anyone else in her role. Furthermore, I think she had the best "Drag King" look of the Rusical. I was so confused when she was put in the bottom.
@mandysjones3098
@mandysjones3098 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. So many queens have said the edit made Loosey look a lot worse than how she was in reality. And except for the talent show, I don't remember a single episode where Loosey didn't deliver. I guess her downfall was being honest about how much she wanted to win because they then deliberately robbed her to get those reactions. Even when she realized she was being played and refrained from sharing her thoughts, Mistress would go out of her way to get Loosey to express herself so she could mock her.
@cirrus808
@cirrus808 Жыл бұрын
okay yeah i agree that she did really well but... the best in the interview and makeover? absolutely not
@_Ash0099
@_Ash0099 Жыл бұрын
@@cirrus808besides Luxx who else you think was the best??
@walpurgisnight7
@walpurgisnight7 Жыл бұрын
I do think Loosey was a bit delusional in a few moments, but Luxx and Mistress's behavior was kind of hard to watch. I can't imagine how it would have felt to be Loosey and have to sit through almost a month of two people ganging up on her every chance they got. Loosey's only proven how mature she is with her answer at the reunion and was genuinely a great competitor. Mistress refuses to take accountability and Luxx is STILL desperately trying to convince us that she was just existing peacefully and it was too much for Loosey.
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
She was delusional and manipulating too. Like trying to lie she didn’t want the rol to win. She knows not how to play the game.
@saralarsen7290
@saralarsen7290 Жыл бұрын
@@darianbasques2452 sorry but no sh*t did she want to win haha. That's what they're there to do, so even if she lies, she really isn't fooling many.
@TheZeldaNoob
@TheZeldaNoob Жыл бұрын
@@darianbasques2452 not even close
@naluzoniro
@naluzoniro Жыл бұрын
every queen has little moments of delusion, especially the s15 ones who were all ultra competitive. It comes with the massive amounts of self-confidence you need to resist the pressure of a show like this without breaking down.
@lune78
@lune78 Жыл бұрын
A lot of queens love to say they got a bad edit and that production did them dirty when things didn't go their way on the show, but in Loosey's case, it's 100% true. It's fine that some queens didn't like Loosey. You can't get along with everyone. But MIB and Luxx took it too far. That whole TED Talk Luxx did to answer the " Who should go home and why" question was mean and uncalled for.
@randomname1924
@randomname1924 Жыл бұрын
It’s true that we don’t get to see everything that goes behind the scenes, but MIB and Luxx gave production enough and more material to push Loosey off the edge and to me that’s kinda gross.
@person405
@person405 Жыл бұрын
Plus, she basically said the same thing about MIB's and Selena's drag. So she only called Anetra and Sahsa unique.
@srimightbeshady
@srimightbeshady Жыл бұрын
It’s really not taking it too far… you’re not wrong they did act that way but so have so many queens in previous seasons. What makes these two deserve this kinda hate?
@sebastyann123
@sebastyann123 Жыл бұрын
@@srimightbeshady that all the other queens did not focus that energy in only ONE person. Take Bianca for example she was ruthless with her shade or comments but it was never only towards one people AND she had moments were she was being friendly with those people aswell. MIB and Luxx were attacking loosey literally every single episode like after the 3rd time it stoped being funny to me and it was more awkward and i was feeling uncomfortable bc they also could see that loosy was struggling I mean if we could see it from the tv they must have seen it right there. And you could also see how anetra and Sasha NEVER added 1 thing during those attacks they were just doing meme faces but kept quiet.
@srimightbeshady
@srimightbeshady Жыл бұрын
@@sebastyann123 MIB wasn’t shady towards just one person and really neither was Luxx
@deconibe
@deconibe Жыл бұрын
Loosey’s edit was clearly very produced and people could see very quickly though it. The more the season progressed the more I left for her. I even began rooting for her more and more. I think people slowly begin to see though the editing and realize that most of what they see is manufactured. Loosey is an amazing queen and I hope this still gives her a great career boost
@trinketeerrine6674
@trinketeerrine6674 Жыл бұрын
Yes ! That's something every viewer should keep in mind, the storylines and the way the queens are portrayed are heavily edited. They show us what they want to show. We don't get to see most interactions between the queens. People being confused at why Malaysia won Miss Congeniality is a perfect example, she probably was a very nurturing, motherly figure with her fellow contestants but we didn't get to see that. There are many more example from past seasons too. It sucks for the queens who, like Loosey, make good TV but are edited down to be a one dimensional character...
@gaiar.d.rosendahl8300
@gaiar.d.rosendahl8300 Жыл бұрын
Well put! 🔥♥️
@rwb3562
@rwb3562 Жыл бұрын
Yep! They try to manipulate us and it back fires!
@pizzgirl
@pizzgirl Жыл бұрын
yes but she needs to go thru some realizations first cuz all the stuff luxx said was true but not bad
@EduardoLaviano
@EduardoLaviano Жыл бұрын
Lux and MIB were fun in some moments during the season, but pretending their behavior was all about being fun and shooting “friendly” shady jokes is a stretch. They bullied Loosey. And a lot.
@dlmbs
@dlmbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@phoebevaughan5095
@phoebevaughan5095 Жыл бұрын
I love Mistress and Luxx - but they went too far at times. Never the less, I hope they all have great experiences from now on.
@dlmbs
@dlmbs Жыл бұрын
@@phoebevaughan5095 it was all fun and games, until it wasn't...
@LuluLuscious
@LuluLuscious Жыл бұрын
I am so glad Loosey is tackling criticism with kindness, grace and-- by the response she gave in the reunion-- a genuine share of her own feelings. Loosey literally is a POLISHED, entertaining, visually appealing, smart Queen. However, I don't know why she didn't do better. I really hope we have her Second Wind Era.
@LeoMenFig
@LeoMenFig Жыл бұрын
I hated to see them (production and some competitors) bullying Loosey while she was clearly doing a great job most of the time
@ingGS
@ingGS Жыл бұрын
She did well or excellent in all of the challenges, including the ones she was in the bottom. I mean, the makeover was so good that I actually thought her daughter was Loosey on the runway.
@ingGS
@ingGS Жыл бұрын
It also reminds me of Jan and Rosé. They did very well yet production did them dirty. I still remember Michelle criticizing Rosé for “being too professional”… wth.
@kt-nc1uw
@kt-nc1uw Жыл бұрын
@@ingGS THIS! It's always the polished, perfectionist musical theatre girlies that get the gaslighting treatment
@redscrunchie222
@redscrunchie222 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, Loosey was great, now yes she was a little delusional in some things, but the producers and MIB and Luxx were actively bullying her and toying with her like she was a ragdoll, honestly Loosey is such a trooper for never crying because of this, or heck, even quitting. NO ONE should EVER have to put up with that.
@jader9267
@jader9267 Жыл бұрын
It still gags me how Loosey wasnt part of the top 4 when clearly she's been doin great all throughout the season. Them pushing this agenda that she's unlikeable and she doesnt deserve the spot because she shows her VALID frustrations is so mind-boggling to me. Loosey's POV, the one where she talks about people laughing everytime she tries to talk is so heart-wrenching. I can genuinely feel how it affects her a lot. I feel bad for her actually but I feel more good things are coming for her because she's just that damn talented.
@mandysjones3098
@mandysjones3098 Жыл бұрын
Not to take anything from Loosey because she's very talented and she was an accomplished queen with a fanbase before drag race, but I think the constant harassment she got from Mistress and Luxx made her a lot more popular than she would have been otherwise and long term it has helped her career and hurt theirs, especially Mistress's who went from being a fan favorite early on in the season, to being among the least popular finalists ever. Practically nobody wanted her and Luxx to win in all the polls.
@Billibab
@Billibab Жыл бұрын
@@mandysjones3098 Yup!!!!!!!
@youreannoying
@youreannoying Жыл бұрын
gags you? she can't lip-sync if she deserves top spot so does sugar and spice because they gave the same level of experience just one of them has been doing it for much much longer and never got better
@jader9267
@jader9267 Жыл бұрын
@@youreannoying why would you compare sugar and spice to loosey? Loosey was winning challenges. If not, she's always on top.
@youreannoying
@youreannoying Жыл бұрын
@@jader9267 they lip sync at the same level that’s why. She’s good at comedy but she dances and sings like sugar and spice but they have better fashion
@teacherexplained853
@teacherexplained853 Жыл бұрын
I love Loosey. This season gave me a bad aftertaste.
@debbieparnell7582
@debbieparnell7582 Жыл бұрын
As someone who didn't love/like her it still gave a bad aftertaste. No one deserves that.
@phoebevaughan5095
@phoebevaughan5095 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how Loosey went home at the time she did - her family resemblance was great!
@sophiabreidfischer6242
@sophiabreidfischer6242 Жыл бұрын
Yeah id so much rather see friendships evolve than drama
@AlienZizi
@AlienZizi 2 ай бұрын
​@@sophiabreidfischer6242 me too! i dont get people who thrive on the drama, it just stresses me out 😅😅😅 but to be fair, this wasnt even drama, it was dogpiling.
@markalexander3659
@markalexander3659 Жыл бұрын
The edit Loosey got and the way some of the queens (specifically Luxx and Mistress) as well as production treated her is maybe the first time an unfair edit has actually made me feel sad while watching the show. Drag Race is a comfort show, I don't wanna feel SAD. Like, the way she was gaslit and often it was obvious she felt so defeated and/or was visibly trying not to try (like at the reunion) I just really wanted to give her a hug so bad, and I'm really not even a huggy person.
@dasiasaur
@dasiasaur Жыл бұрын
Genuinely, it’s hard to follow the “it’s just fun, we’re just playing around” narrative they’re running when I just think about how isolated and frustrated I’d feel if that happened to me. It just makes me sad because who knows if the manipulation was getting to Loosey or if she ended up believing some of the things she was being gaslit about :(
@dieraviolieuresvertrauens
@dieraviolieuresvertrauens Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I just want to meet her and hug her, I feel like she internalized a lot of the things that were said to her. I really thought Luxx and MIB would get called out at the reunion, I was so surprised when they just brushed over it. (Also I want to know what Sasha and Anetra have to say abt the whole situation, since I feel like they purposely didnt comment on it during the show and reunion)
@kobemartinez1082
@kobemartinez1082 Жыл бұрын
it’s a reality tv show, it’s gonna be rigged, it’s gonna be fair (at points) it’s a way to get more viewers, i don’t mean this in a rude way but you shouldn’t get so close to a tv show that’s so heavily scripted
@markalexander3659
@markalexander3659 Жыл бұрын
@@kobemartinez1082 I didn't take it as rude :) I'm not overly into the show, but I did feel bad for Lucy for the way she was treated and I've seen her get SO MUCH hate on twitter from Drag Race "fans" (fans in quotations, because IMO if you're sending anyone actual hate, you're not a real fan) because of the edit she got etc
@shoggy1713
@shoggy1713 Жыл бұрын
This!!!! It made me wanna stop watching
@julesrules7297
@julesrules7297 Жыл бұрын
Luxx was practically speechless when Irene Dubois kept harping on about her 40 inches in episode one. Luxx is talented and has the goods, but.... if you're going to dish it out, take it. She's still young, though. So is MIB. Someone said MIB, Luxx and The Twins are the same age and it blew my mind. Hopefully everyone grows from this. Also, all three should be wary of All Stars, especially Loosey (unfortunately). I bet production would LOVE to give any of the 3 an All Stars Villain edit.
@ytscrownjewell
@ytscrownjewell Жыл бұрын
But she's great at speaking at the drop of a dime!
@julesrules7297
@julesrules7297 Жыл бұрын
@@ytscrownjewell ha! she should've said at the drop of a penny! 🤣🤣🤣
@m00nrac00n
@m00nrac00n Жыл бұрын
The All Stars point might be very true. Could be a danger to their further career, they would have to built a good relationship with WOW Productions first..
@thenewMedusa
@thenewMedusa 11 ай бұрын
I think if Irene stayed, she would've broken Luxx and sent Luxx home by episode 3.
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 10 ай бұрын
​@@thenewMedusashe probably wouldve been her Loosey tbh imagine if she got ahold of that wig and that security tag coat
@OscarSotoJr
@OscarSotoJr Жыл бұрын
Silky was attacked for being this terrible person, when she was, at most, just a little annoying, but being big and black, it came back to her double. Mistress actually WAS being shady and unaccountable for her mind games, but blamed it on her being big when she got hate. That's the difference.
@8akitkat8
@8akitkat8 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@marthal8862
@marthal8862 Жыл бұрын
Spot on!!
@clawiyDC4ever
@clawiyDC4ever Жыл бұрын
Idk, a bit annoying for Silky is a bit short, at least on her season, I really disliked her because she was REALLY annoying, don’t care about her weight and race, if you’re annoying, you’ll be disliked. She was a lot nicer on All Stars tho. I think it’s unfair and racist making everything about weight and race.
@marthal8862
@marthal8862 Жыл бұрын
@@clawiyDC4ever the point is she wasn’t a bully, she was annoying.
@VicramCram
@VicramCram Жыл бұрын
Silky was really annoying. Mistress was more of a douche but was edited to seem bright and straightforward. (And many people related to that)
@AnalogTrash714
@AnalogTrash714 Жыл бұрын
I think it was Alaska in S5 who said it "Those pageant girls will play some wicked mind games." MIB sure was proud to show what pageants taught her lol
@jt4351
@jt4351 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for addressing how being a minority doesn't give you plausible deniability for shitty behavior. People have gone so far in defending an ideology that they've become the very thing they criticize.
@randomname1924
@randomname1924 Жыл бұрын
It’s so dumb to me how people on Twitter think that Luxx being black and MIB being a big girl and Latina make them incapable of doing bad.
@dasiasaur
@dasiasaur Жыл бұрын
Most frustrating part to me is exactly what OP mentioned, it’s a way to deflect and negate all criticism. I wouldn’t be upset with MiB and Luxx if they came into the reunion with the energy of “watching myself back, I’m not proud of everything I said or did” instead of sticking with “I’m just real and you have to trust me when I say I didn’t do anything wrong”. You should be able to receive criticism and learn from it without it becoming “well the whole fanbase is racist so…” Do POC get targeted for behavior more often than white people? Objectively yes. Is that what’s happening this time? Mostly no. Even if some of the criticism is unwarranted, you can’t write everything off and expect everything to be fine. If I’ve learned anything from queens and the treatment they’ve gotten because of their edit, it’s that redemption is possible if they prove that they’ve learned from their actions (even if a good chunk is because of the edit). Seeing Roxxy on All Stars made me go from heavily disliking her to having a very soft spot in my heart for her. Watching back season 4’s reunion knowing all the crap Phi Phi got from the show and seeing how terribly she was treated by the fans and the other queens as she apologized genuinely hurt me a little. If you can come out of the show admitting you could’ve been better, you show improvement and willingness to recognize your own mistakes. (Which is way better and more satisfying for an audience than whatever MiB and Luxx were trying to pull)
@saesnaughtyprincess
@saesnaughtyprincess Жыл бұрын
Are we really acting like Loosey was innocent? What's that saying? No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. Even Anetra mentioned she isn't going to let outside opinion define her drag. When Loosey is crying almost every episode about not winning... allowing Luxx's opinion to define her drag. Let me get my pocketbook...
@dasiasaur
@dasiasaur Жыл бұрын
@@saesnaughtyprincess of course Loosey isn’t innocent but after the whole experience was over, she owned up to how she acted, admitted her mistakes, and wasn’t a child about everything. If you watch the reunion episode, it’s MIB and Luxx avoiding questions or neglecting taking responsibility for what they said/did while Loosey was agreeing she was in the wrong in some of those situations. You can’t look at me and say that their wrong doings are on the same level. They were in a competition show where they’re already isolated from everything and everyone else they’re used to outside of the show and Luxx and Mistress spent the whole season playing mind games to force Loosey into a mental breakdown because they thought it was funny and that it would make production happy. I just struggle to feel bad for them when all I can think about is how Loosey must have felt. She’s a full grown adult, sure, but when everything you do leads to people laughing in your face and calling you delusional, I’d lose it too.
@mandysjones3098
@mandysjones3098 Жыл бұрын
​@@saesnaughtyprincess wow, what a terrible take.
@leonardo.diCATio
@leonardo.diCATio Жыл бұрын
I'm fat myself, and Mistress hiding behind "people think I'm mean because they're fatphobic" makes me so annoyed. No, you're just being mean. Using fatphobia as an excuse leads to actual examples of it being questioned.
@n.normal1565
@n.normal1565 Жыл бұрын
As Terry Practhett says - paraphrased for this case - Just because you're fat doesn't mean you're not capable of being an -expletitive deleted-.
@idunnowhatimdoin
@idunnowhatimdoin Жыл бұрын
Also a lot of Mistress' drag was like a cheap version of Eureka O'Hara - who had to put up with *_actual_* fatphobia in the fandom. The thing is, Eureka made it to the top on talent, and while she could be shady and give producers all the soundbites they love, she didn't need to gaslight and malign someone else. As a person of color, I was also grossed out by how Luxx tries to use the issue of racism as a shield from criticism just like Mistress uses fatphobia. These are real problems that affect many people out here in the real world, and it's not ok to trivialize them just because your TV persona didn't get the reception you thought it would.
@eatslaychardonnay
@eatslaychardonnay Жыл бұрын
I think that’s what cost MIB and Luxx the crown in my mind, I’ve been bullied by girls that think they’re better than me, and for that reason I empathized with Lucy. I’ve had bitches try to invalidate me like that all my life, so it’s kinda easy to spot. I’m not a big fan of that kinda behaviour.
@marcusmelancon3426
@marcusmelancon3426 Жыл бұрын
Oh it did they never crown the villains on rpdr and Mistress and Luxx did it to themselves and they couldn’t even own it Mistress said she was just being shady and didn’t realize she was hurting loosey which is clearly a lie and she pinned it all on Luxx and even at the reunion Loosey told her how her behavior affected her and she was just trying to make a joke out of it
@eatslaychardonnay
@eatslaychardonnay Жыл бұрын
@@marcusmelancon3426 If they had played a similar game to Anetra and Sasha, who both seemed to be beloved by the cast, then I think the top two would have been less obvious. Like I appreciate the good tv and drama they gave, but I don’t think they needed to punch down and try to invalidate other people’s art. I don’t know if they were playing to production or what, but they both should have known they’d be shooting themselves in the foot.
@randomname1924
@randomname1924 Жыл бұрын
Tbf I don’t really think they would’ve made it to top 2 anyway since the Sasha favoritism was obvious (not to discredit her bc she’s amazing, but still). If anything, I think giving production material to stir drama made them go up to top 4 safely
@eatslaychardonnay
@eatslaychardonnay Жыл бұрын
@@randomname1924 fair point for sure! Tbh I didn’t have knowledge of her going in, but I knew of the hype. Sure some of her wins could have gone to other queens, but I also think a winners edit was unavoidable for her. I can appreciate Luxx and MIB for what they brought to the season, but I thought it coulda been done without fucking with other queens. Granted, I’m Sasha’s age, and they’re still babies.
@aleeh2109
@aleeh2109 Жыл бұрын
Tbh, Sasha had that crown on the bag the minute she walked in.. Anetra was amazing competition and their finale was very well deserved. MIB and Luxx never had a change and I think that’s why they used the “Mean bitch but great TV” route, and it worked.. but they definitely stepped over the line way too much to be winner material.
@nicotbh8304
@nicotbh8304 Жыл бұрын
I will confirm that Luxx’s vocal inflections during her Loosey speech are VERY clearly premeditated. Luxx talks quickly and her words flow, but when her thoughts need to catch up, she says “umm” and “like” like most young Americans, and they end off their sentences usually higher than it starts off. Luxx’s vocal inflections were all over the place when she was explaining herself in an unnatural way, usually a sign of thinking abt what you’re saying way too hard. I may not be explaining it right but I fully believe Luxx had at least an IDEA of what she was gonna say. She’s a student of the game and knows the “Who should to home” question is inevitable and a tense moment, and you’re blame shift analysis was spot on. She’s truly a student of the game
@dor4376
@dor4376 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Even in meet the queens where they are all prepared to gave best answers, Luxx was kinda... empty and dumb. I believe that production told her to prepare for the question of who should go home and she really prepared this time.
@kakarikiyazoo
@kakarikiyazoo Жыл бұрын
She is a liar. It was definitely pre-planned. And her excuse that she is just so quick with her words is kind of betrayed by the fact that the expression is "at the drop of a dime" and not "on".
@peteradaniel
@peteradaniel Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue is the way both Lux and MIB use race as an excuse for their shitty behaviour. Especially Lux. She constantly explains that because she’s black, she is always put down by society, which is somehow an excuse to avoid criticism from the fan base for bad behaviour, thereby framing Lucie as spoilt, entitled and white. This is definitely a problem with production as well.
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
Aren’t you black ?
@fentyvevo6533
@fentyvevo6533 Жыл бұрын
Girl wtf r u even talking abt… mamas i think u have a case of drag delusion.
@LoLLilo
@LoLLilo Жыл бұрын
True
@grahammaio9801
@grahammaio9801 Жыл бұрын
Girl bye. Then don't cry next time someone discriminates against someone for being LGBT. 🤡
@lusandantintili8668
@lusandantintili8668 Жыл бұрын
Especially because it undercuts the weight of truly bigoted comments and attacks, of which there are plenty, but there has to be room for them to acknowledge when they were being bullies
@phoebevaughan5095
@phoebevaughan5095 Жыл бұрын
Loosey won my respect when she defended the other drag queens on twitter asking her fans not to send hate to them. I like her, and I wish her the best 😊 I wish she had stayed longer in the competition personally but there we are 🙃
@toriboy25
@toriboy25 Жыл бұрын
It's funny that after all the crap Mistress gave Loosey Mistress threw her own temper tantrum at the finale and refused to go on stage for the MC crowning after not making the top 2
@TroyMichael86
@TroyMichael86 Жыл бұрын
Mmhmmm
@robertbeste
@robertbeste Жыл бұрын
Whoah really? Source? O_o
@rebecca9103
@rebecca9103 Жыл бұрын
She was on stage though. I will say finding out you’re not top 2, and effectively getting elim, then having 0 time to process that and being thrown on stage to smile and clap would be shit.
@alextirrellRI
@alextirrellRI Жыл бұрын
@@robertbeste I heard it talked about on Race Chaser podcast.
@toriboy25
@toriboy25 Жыл бұрын
@@rebecca9103 Yeah she did come out but she wasn't on stage when Willow first walked out.
@jessicab8613
@jessicab8613 Жыл бұрын
This whole season was so hard to watch, speaking as someone who has went through similar situations as Loosey was put in. To me, it was so glaringly obvious that the edit was fucked and Luxe and Mistress were willing to say or do anything to push Loosey’s buttons. It was so disheartening watching so many people root for Luxe this season. Bullying really is alive and well, and this is the perfect example.
@fukhyu3330
@fukhyu3330 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been through similar things too, even in work environments with people who I thought were my friends (actually going through something like it right now :/ ) and watching it happen to loosey hurts me so much because I remember what I felt, but seeing the way she’s handled it has also helped me cope in a way. Obviously it’s sad she had to go through it, but I hope she knows that the way she handled it and how she stayed strong for so long really inspired me (and I’m sure others) and honestly when I (inevitably) get bullied again I’m probably gonna be less distressed about it because Loosey has shown me that I can get through it
@davordubravic6259
@davordubravic6259 Жыл бұрын
I felt the same way. Luxx confronted the queens when called a bully, she said she felt it was such a heavy word. And I agree with that. I also think this is the reason why it is so hard to feel that you are in fact putting pressure on someone for no good reason, so probably being a bully because Loosey did not enjoy it one bit. It triggered some things in me and I am kinda mad this hasnt been resolved as well as I wanted it to be. Maybe Ru's direct feedback. Maybe Luxx and Mistress fully acknowledging some empathy for Loosey. Loosey was incredibly resilient and remained a lady. I wish the best for all three of them. We do not know the experience of being there
@tinymoogle
@tinymoogle Жыл бұрын
I feel that MIB is a master manipulator and I think it may be a window into her world view - it implies she feels that people are out to get you, are fake & manipulative so be the shark not the chum. I appreciate this video very much, great analysis. Loosey was done dirty but she has shone since taping ended. She is a versatile talented perfomer. LET LOOSE!
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
So trying to get the rol to win that episode isn’t manipulating by lying that isn’t your intention? Loosey just don’t know how to play the game of “REALITY TV SHOW “ which is not real
@dieraviolieuresvertrauens
@dieraviolieuresvertrauens Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree 100%. Often you assume the intentions of others are the same as yours, bc you project onto them, and we saw MIB being openly manipulative multiple times. It makes sense why she and Luxx would call someone else manipulative for the smallest things that weren't even meant that way.
@sammygirl6910
@sammygirl6910 Жыл бұрын
You may be right, but plenty of people who are bullied don't go on to be the bully.
@dontaskdontpastel
@dontaskdontpastel Жыл бұрын
I’m glad the fanbase started to love Loosey, she has so much favourite potential idk why they gave her this edit
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
Not being smart enough. You need to play the game right. People unhappy with their edit did not know what not to do. Just watch Sasha she barely acted the diva she is
@elizabethjohnson6386
@elizabethjohnson6386 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting into words my feelings about the season-long games. I enjoy light drama, I don’t like real mind games. It feels gross to me. These are things that can have life long effects on people. And these ARE REAL PEOPLE not just characters. You may do or say things in character but you can’t shut off how things affect you as a real person.
@visualthinking
@visualthinking Жыл бұрын
Perfectly said. I am so thankful for this video for so clearly defining the harm that was so often praised as playful shadiness this season.
@renzzza__
@renzzza__ Жыл бұрын
I always thought the "Don't blame it on the edit" thing was funny because a lot of those queens have every right to blame the edit.
@lyndza1989
@lyndza1989 Жыл бұрын
its an easy cop out for the show to take no accountability
@gromplin
@gromplin Жыл бұрын
I still believe that song was ironic. Because in the music video it’s literally edited so heavily and makes a point of making her look like she’s lip syncing the song while using some old old OLD clips
@ianchamberlin
@ianchamberlin Жыл бұрын
I thought Loosey was good but not my favourite Mistress and Luxx came across really badly. I was so happy in the finale when they were left standing on the stage looking really pissed off, dismissed quickly and never thought about again. I was absolutely raving when mistresses entire finale performance was a continuing dig at Loosey, it was pathetic
@shortangel333
@shortangel333 Жыл бұрын
I mean I don't blame them for being pissed, the names of the top 2 flashed up behind them before RuPaul said anything.
@thenewMedusa
@thenewMedusa 11 ай бұрын
Now that you say that, I wonder if Dragrace Production set it p that way to purposely humiliate Luxx and Mistress in the finale that way 😅 That would be brilliant.
@royalstudies7367
@royalstudies7367 Жыл бұрын
Loosey NEVER played dirty games. MIB and Luxx did. I will always stan Loosey.
@shortangel333
@shortangel333 Жыл бұрын
Ahem. The makeover challenge.
@ytscrownjewell
@ytscrownjewell Жыл бұрын
And if anyone is questioning that Mistress or Luxx would actually gaslight someone, everything from the reunion regarding the Lalaparuza is all the proof you need.
@dor4376
@dor4376 Жыл бұрын
If you are nasty and messy towards people, I don't care what gender, skin color, country, age, hair color, body type you are. You are mean, end of story🤷‍♀️
@pattygates8376
@pattygates8376 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@robertbeste
@robertbeste Жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%. However I think it's also fair to realize that the actions of POCs are viewed as "messy" or "mean" more often than those with privilege. I agree with basically everything in this video, but like the author, I also worry it will be used as license to second guess the good faith perspectives of struggling minorities. We need to be vigilant to both trust AND verify with fair scrutiny. And remember that we know SO little. If anyone is to be blame for nasty and messy in my view... it's the editors.
@clovis-
@clovis- Жыл бұрын
Give me a break 😭 drag queens are NOT. NICE. you have never met one if you think they’re anything but messy rotten. Can we stop moral policing everyone and everything? This is reality tv. These are drag queens. Let them entertain!!
@ohchip
@ohchip Жыл бұрын
why are you bringing race into it....
@nk1645
@nk1645 Жыл бұрын
@@robertbeste what privilege are you even talking about in this context? The whole production and editing was done in favor of Luxx and Mistress. And the production even enabled them to bully Loosey. Drop this race card bullshit when it's not appropriate at all.
@ferowyn11
@ferowyn11 Жыл бұрын
omg it was so incredibly frustrating to watch this! thank you for looking at this from a different angle and presenting it like that!
@ferowyn11
@ferowyn11 Жыл бұрын
I understand your concerns about people using this video to mistreat Mistress and Luxx. but I also feel that Loosey deserved having this discussed, and I'm glad that you did it
@kittennight3305
@kittennight3305 Жыл бұрын
​@@ferowyn11 I think people who are actively doing that are not drag race fans
@ferowyn11
@ferowyn11 Жыл бұрын
@@kittennight3305 we are DR fans, Top especially! but I get your point :)
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
The delusional angle went over your head. Stop acting like Loosey wasnt manipulating too. She lied she didn’t want the rol to be the winner which she could’ve had had if she knew how to keep her mouth shut to producers. Against it’s a reality show meant to use these people are peons for you to root for them or kill them like chess
@NightmareTrubator
@NightmareTrubator Жыл бұрын
I think the villain edit of Loosey seemed harsher due the last seasons having predominantly redeemed villains, like Kandy and Daya, while Loosey didn't really got a redemption. Also, I'm not happy about Luxx and MIB's attitudes towards Loosey, but I think production subtly gave them a taste of their own games the final 2 chapters, making them look overconfident while also not being able to live the expectations, but as Luxx said, sometimes when you play dirty games you get dirty results. Anyway this is just rambles, I'm not going to go to these queens pages to trow hate, and honestly they're probably the biggest winners so far on the season, almost assuring that if neither of them win, they have an open invitation to AS.
@trasher_gooby9921
@trasher_gooby9921 Жыл бұрын
I agree! Like when mistress lied about what she said to irene
@Eskoblazin
@Eskoblazin Жыл бұрын
Kandy never got a redemption. She's still trash.
@shawnbay2211
@shawnbay2211 Жыл бұрын
Loosey’s edit is very interesting because towards the end, even unintentionally, it’s easy to infer she’s the victim of the cast and show. Her storyline has a quiet redemption because instead of being a delusional villain, she’s a robbed underdog.
@saesnaughtyprincess
@saesnaughtyprincess Жыл бұрын
Over confident? I don't think. When is it bad to know you're great and everything else is outside opinions. If someone says you're shit, and know you are not. Why give what anyone says the time of day?
@NightmareTrubator
@NightmareTrubator Жыл бұрын
@@saesnaughtyprincess I mean, whatever I write, it doesn't really have any impact on these people in real life, my point of view is more about the reality show, and I saw them being portrayed as overconfident characters. Lux went to sleep in the last competitive episode, and production could have chose to not show it, we know from previous seasons that they ask the contestants for verses beforehand, so probably all of them already had verses, but they chose to show her sleeping and the other girls side eying her, and I think it's very similar with MIB and the reunion episode. But once again, this is about the show, real life is different.
@halvdanorning1617
@halvdanorning1617 Жыл бұрын
Hope you are proud of this video. So well-made, consize and well-explained. Hopefully it will reach a big portion of the fanbase, they sure need to be aware of this buffoonery!
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
Touch some grass girl. He wants money, he’s telling to your what you want to hear. We don’t know who is who. Everyone can be delusional and bully and evil at times.
@dixierae6063
@dixierae6063 Жыл бұрын
I so hope that Loosey has found and watched this video. I can't even begin to imagine the pain that she went through during and after the filming of season 15. I think the validation and healing that she would receive from watching Luxe and Mistress called out on their behaviour would mean the world to her. As a matter of fact I think I'm going to drop into her DM and suggest it.
@thenewMedusa
@thenewMedusa Жыл бұрын
I hope Lucy watches this and understands. She is a victim of abuse and watching her get abused triggered so many other victims. I feel she is intimidated to speak out for herself because she might lose her stance with the RuPaul world or face fan backlash. I was even surprised at how many famous drag queens were laughing at her. I can't believe that RuPaul and her organization are promoting this type of abuse publicly. I thought that drag was supposed to be a safe space. Poor Lucy has even been defending her attackers on Twitter. To me this is indicative of her being trapped in the abuse cycle.
@nayaavon5605
@nayaavon5605 Жыл бұрын
I'm with Loosey when she called Luxx and Mistress bullies
@pineapplelolipop
@pineapplelolipop Жыл бұрын
When/where did she do that? I can't find it
@andreacherubini9632
@andreacherubini9632 Жыл бұрын
she never did lmfao
@nayaavon5605
@nayaavon5605 Жыл бұрын
@@pineapplelolipop it was in the music group challenge untucked episode
@felix9250
@felix9250 Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad to see this discussion framed the way it should be, in an attempt to try and ensure this kind of treatment never happens to another contestant again. Year after year more and more Queens are coming out and telling the fans how much the edits, producers, treatment on the show and rabid "fans" have destroyed their mental health. Jasmine Masters & Tammie Brown have been trying to point out the exploitation since their respective seasons, yet as you say every season we end up with another sacrificial lamb. You're entirely right, nobody should lose the belief and joy they have in themselves for a 7 figure pay cheque. My heart truly goes out to Loosey, it's a testament to her that she made it to the top 5 while dealing with that constant gaslighting and manipulation. Lux and Mistress have behaved horribly to Loosey and others this season, the deflection and defensiveness they've had around conversations about their attitude have done more to prove the point that they were acting out of malice than anything else, but the culture and high pressure producers have put on the queens for at least a decade allowed them to do it without making amends, or admitting any fault. We can always rely on you to see through the bullsh*t (cue Phi Phi montage), as someone whose first language is English, thanks for speaking on this in a much more articulate way than I ever could, the work you put into these videos is extremely impressive, and in my opinion, right on the money. If the fans don't start demanding better and better treatment of the queens we might as well not have the show, the damage it can cause these talented performers isn't even worth a lipsync to me.
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
Girl it’s reality tv show. The Indian guy is just trying to sell you the victim poison which you took
@BabaCorva
@BabaCorva Жыл бұрын
The irony of feeling bad for Loosey's edit while fully buying everything we saw from Luxx and MiB is absolutely wild to me.
@felix9250
@felix9250 Жыл бұрын
The fact you're out here trying to start debates on month old comments with bad faith arguements is wild. Find an outdoor hobby.
@andreacherubini9632
@andreacherubini9632 Жыл бұрын
@@felix9250 So, if I see an old (and we're talking about months...) comment, I'm not allowed to respond? Girl, bye.
@ariescervantes3446
@ariescervantes3446 Жыл бұрын
They focus on Loosey because she was a strong competitor and they couldn’t drag Sasha (whom was the real threat) because they knew how beloved and respected she was from the drag community, Loosey was an easy target for them and the production, tbh nobody had a real chance to win the crown this season, that crown had a name from the moment Sasha walked in the werkroom.
@Yumka14
@Yumka14 Жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful for your coverage of this situation, and not being like other creators living for "the drama" and "Mistress/Lux giving great TV" by putting someone else on the verge - or even past it - of mental breakdown. It's like when bullied kid finally snaps or grows courage to stand for themselves and bullies just smile even wider and laugh even harder, mocking their attempts at making them stop.
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
It’s a reality tv show. It isn’t an actual high school experience of someone. Grow up and see loose can be bully, evil, and manipulating too. We all can we just don’t or didn’t see her that way
@Yumka14
@Yumka14 Жыл бұрын
@@darianbasques2452 You must have been fun at your high school to be around
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
@@Yumka14 I was bullied and I got over it
@natsuki7325
@natsuki7325 Жыл бұрын
@@darianbasques2452 I bet you were the bullys you liar
@dor4376
@dor4376 Жыл бұрын
Mistress was so bad saying all of that, it was so unnecesarry. The Reunion was her trying to brush it all off like hihihi i'm just a goof🤭 no. #teamsasha and #teamanetra for not letting anyone down, doing their thing and let their art spoke for themselves.
@alextirrellRI
@alextirrellRI Жыл бұрын
I think Loosey's "I'm pissed" moments were blood in the water for both production and Luxx and Mistress. I remember at the time yelling out "No, don't say that!" at my television, more concerned that production was going to push her (and push her out) because that's typically what happens when a queen expresses frustration like that. I guess I just didn't expect Luxx and Mistress to also use it to try and get her to melt down.
@TheBizzle1984
@TheBizzle1984 Жыл бұрын
Luxx's reactions in the makeover challenge really frustrated me. Her teacher was great, and she didn't deserve to be painted as some horrendous "sabotage" pick. Lixx did great on her makeup, but clearly didn't really try with that outfit
@nicholas8484
@nicholas8484 Жыл бұрын
wtf u mean she didn't try
@RomeroRomeral
@RomeroRomeral 7 ай бұрын
well yeah, it was a bad outfit. And she had the face to call Loosey's the worst.
@harleyblaze1903
@harleyblaze1903 Жыл бұрын
All that bullying gave me the ick. Mistress knew what she was bloody doing. This was a fantastic video and your english is phenomenal 😊
@he-lium
@he-lium Жыл бұрын
I think Loosey was very lucky that she still came out looking good following her edit, and I think the delusional edit needs to end here, because the producers aren't gonna go on twitter and back up a queen who's getting hate for an edit they planned and manufactured
@Luxxforfilth
@Luxxforfilth Жыл бұрын
The gag is Loosey has won some of the most iconic challenges. If loosey wasn’t white I’m telling you production wouldn’t have let the girls dog walk her every opportunity they got
@signaturenote5814
@signaturenote5814 Жыл бұрын
If she were black and this thin skinned, they would’ve. Lol
@saesnaughtyprincess
@saesnaughtyprincess Жыл бұрын
If Loosey were black they wouldn't have made this video "exposing the gaslighting". The fandom isn't the only ones that feel that way. Almost every episode of the Pit Stop other RuGirls borderline said she was annoying.
@bemdanlif
@bemdanlif Жыл бұрын
Loosey was the strongest competitor next to Sasha. She deserved a spot in the finale. She had no chance at winning this but she was done dirty by all the bullying and shady editing. Mistress totally lost me towards the end of the season. At the reunion it became clear that she’s a bully and liar. And she’s actually not a versatile queen. Can’t dance, can’t sing, can’t hold the pressure of interviewing and she’s not a great actress. Great TV. That’s all. And if anyone suffers from delusion, it’s Luxx because I’ve never seen a queen being less innovative than Luxx. Is there anything original she has done on this show that we hadn’t seen before? Hell no. In the end of the day, the only winner this season is Sasha, humble, genuine and kind. Happy she won and none of the sneaky snakes.
@myk-popper2960
@myk-popper2960 Жыл бұрын
Mistress should have been eliminated multiple times over and other girls were sacrificed.. and for what? Drama. That's it.
@JDoradoTube
@JDoradoTube Жыл бұрын
Let's face it, if Luxx was white and Loosey was black - the fandom would implode. There would be extreme discourse. Luxx's behavior should not be shielded or excused because of skin color, in the same way that white contestants should not be shielded from their fanbase for questionable and distasteful actions.
@adolfoarias6857
@adolfoarias6857 Жыл бұрын
These are my exact thoughts. There is a lot of defense towards Luxx and Mistress just because they are minorities and "were making good TV" when in reality most of the fans want them to take accountability regardless of their skin color or size. As Top said in their video, you can't excuse minorities questionable actions and behavior just because they are minorities. Otherwise, we all should apologize to Gia Gunn for calling her out after saying Covid was a hoax because that was a "transphobic act"
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
Aren’t you black ?
@benm3382
@benm3382 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Also Luxx made it clear she's had a lot of support and love in her life. To defend her because you think her skin colour inherently makes her less privileged than Loosey the you yourself have learning to do. MIB I can understand more where she's coming from because she's learned to be in attack mode from the life she's dealt with, but hopefully seeing herself on TV will give her a chance to think about how she really wants to come across in the future.
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 10 ай бұрын
I dont think so, remember the Vixen and Aquaria
@AA-yc8yr
@AA-yc8yr 10 ай бұрын
@@pixiestxNyomouf Yeah, remember how the Vixen bullied Aquaria, for fun.
@cocosmom2852
@cocosmom2852 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad someone broke down this bs of ppl saying they didn’t bully Loosey ! They annoyed the shyt outta me all season. Luxx nd MIB got on my fckn nerves nd she was still graceful
@paanicart
@paanicart Жыл бұрын
My problem with MIB is that her shade sometimes felt snide. Her tone of voice, body language, and facial expressions felt less like friendly poking and more malicious at times. Its hard to tell as well how much she and Luxx were taken out of context for the edit and neither deserve the bombardment theyre recieving on socials, but MIB does feel disingenuous at point. Shady old school queens are fun... when everyone is obviously in on the joke.
@kaczmax1866
@kaczmax1866 Жыл бұрын
At first I felt like I was the only one defending Loosey, bc there were so many people laughing at her and almost praising Mistress&Luxx, but I'm glad that more and more people have been calling it out lately. Watching this season was sometimes really hard to me. A little shade is okay, but if you're crossing another person's boundaries it's too much. You could tell from the beginning that the "kiki" thing was uncomfortable to Loosey and she definitely didn't have fun.
@nyasha3081
@nyasha3081 Жыл бұрын
same here! i watched a different s15 analysis and the creator kept saying stuff like “loosey stans please don’t come for me” and i literally said “wait… there’s more of us?!”
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
Oh no gasp …. Seems like reality tv is too harsh for you girl. Not everything is what it seems. Loosey was delusional and manipulating too watch it again !
@kaczmax1866
@kaczmax1866 Жыл бұрын
@@darianbasques2452 you're probably right girl, fortunately I don't watch tv besides rpdr hahah and I totally agree, we don't know they irl that's why I'm not trying to make assumptions about girls, just commenting thoughts about what's happening on the screen that's all:)
@_Ash0099
@_Ash0099 Жыл бұрын
@@darianbasques2452 this mf... over here copying and pasting in every reply that stands by Loosey. Get a grip.
@garryd7748
@garryd7748 Жыл бұрын
This is such an important video. I hated this season because I hated seeing the bullying behaviour of Luxx and Mistress getting rewarded and celebrated by the fandom. I made a similar comment on another video and got called a racist. No, not a racist…. Just someone who got triggered by watching a girl getting bullied. The producers are to blame - the victim gets the villain delusional edit, while the bullies are rewarded. It was hard to watch.
@emotifcontigo
@emotifcontigo Жыл бұрын
100% agree with you! Trinity The Tuck was telling the tea and everybody came for her. Luxx and MIB were really awful.
@thenewMedusa
@thenewMedusa Жыл бұрын
I'm actually a woman of color and git called a racist for calling luxx out for bullying loosey.
@marthinamonstera
@marthinamonstera Жыл бұрын
I'm latina and I couldn't stand their behaviour, this season is ruined for me and I don't think I'll ever rewatch it because of those 2 bullying Loosey.
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
@@marthinamonsteraso Loosey being delusional with her mini challenges and trying to lie she didn’t want the rol to win went right over your head ? Coming from a Latino
@gerodeo
@gerodeo Жыл бұрын
Mistress was a horrible human being and lux was a massive coward that hid behind who she thought was the strongest character ( in mistress) They were jealous and felt inadequate . I’m so glad you made this video.
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
So you decide to ignore loosey doesn’t know how to play the game , lying she wasn’t trying to be the number 1 to win and being called out for it, and believing too much of herself counting the mini challenges when it’s not big deal
@axcruz987
@axcruz987 Жыл бұрын
@@darianbasques2452mistress alt account lmao
@TheZizamie
@TheZizamie Жыл бұрын
When Dracula Season 4 ended, there was a comment that stuck with me on one of the reunion compilations. To paraphrase, “Finally being your ‘real self’ doesn’t equal finally being shady or mean. That just means they think your either a Liar or a Bitch, and neither are positive traits.”
@Lembdadelta
@Lembdadelta Жыл бұрын
Glad someone is talking about it. Had I been there I would've gone all Vixen on MIB and Luxx. I wish Irene stayed on longer cause she seemed to be the only one to actually call them out on their bs.
@rubysmommy
@rubysmommy Жыл бұрын
I wish I could like this 1000 times. Ty for thoughtfully expressing what I saw all season and saw nobody really addressing. ❤
@MeretrixTricks
@MeretrixTricks Жыл бұрын
In my opinion your analysis of drag race content are best on youtube. Without unnecessary cheap emotions and sensationalism, far from pretentiousness and clichés, balanced, inteligent, well spoken, logical and empathetic. Keep up doing great job!
@TopRPDRvideos
@TopRPDRvideos Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@jennifermolinary
@jennifermolinary Жыл бұрын
I got my weed & snacks ready.
@Jayxroberts
@Jayxroberts Жыл бұрын
I love this for you
@Paul0bluevlogs
@Paul0bluevlogs Жыл бұрын
Same
@alyssasbackrolls-nr7bu
@alyssasbackrolls-nr7bu Жыл бұрын
Amen
@krisstallcom
@krisstallcom Жыл бұрын
Same girl
@axelwohnzimmer4780
@axelwohnzimmer4780 Жыл бұрын
So glad to have you back in actually analysing the editing in a very professional manner! I really appreciate your effort. Pls keep on doing the great work!
@justblaire6122
@justblaire6122 Жыл бұрын
I wish people would drop the “good tv” response. That is incomplete. Say “Luxx and MIB targeted Loosey and THAT made good TV”. Say what it is, a lot of y’all enjoyed her being the butt of the joke. It was “good TV” at a human beings expense and y’all loved it. Cut the crap!! The crap is why this fandom is so toxic as is tbh.
@scarynoise996
@scarynoise996 Жыл бұрын
The way the fans tried saying “well she was the one who said it” well I promise you if it was edited with happy noises and no shade she’d be “funny delusional valentina meme queen”
@eriswriterforbadastra
@eriswriterforbadastra Жыл бұрын
This season was unwatchable because of Mistress and Luxx's consistent targeting of Loosey. I normally follow queens through out the season as I fall in love with them and I think I only follow Anetra and Irene because the negativity eclipsed everything. In comparison, I follow the majority of season 14 queens.
@botaktatasumo
@botaktatasumo Жыл бұрын
i mean...if Luxx is so confident in herself...whatever choice that Loosey or whoever throws at her, she should be confident enough to accept a challenge right? And the way Confident Luxx was on that episode is such a reflection of the generation today tbh.
@joesnarey9538
@joesnarey9538 Жыл бұрын
I wish you could have waited a day or two before filming this so you could have u clouded Mistress' Whatchu Packing episode where Michelle asks her what her strategy was and she fully admits she was playing mind games the entire season with the other girls. Like how do you say you are the realest one then admit after the fact that you were never real
@joesnarey9538
@joesnarey9538 Жыл бұрын
*Could have included Mistress' Damn typo
@JamieBensonTV
@JamieBensonTV Жыл бұрын
Mistress says in the reunion that she is a liar, then later says she doesn't lie. You use both those clips in this video. Mistress is playing games. It was fun until it wasn't you know?
@gp5390
@gp5390 Жыл бұрын
None of what Mistress and Luxx did to Loosey was "shade". They weren't friends, they didn't like each other. They poked at her to hurt her. It was mean-spirited, the entire time.
@aleeh2109
@aleeh2109 Жыл бұрын
As someone who didn’t like Loosey on the show I definitely agree, after watching the reunion and realizing how much Loosey was constantly put down.. she was edited to be a villain but she seemed to be genuinely hurt by the treatment she got but was very nice and direct on the reunion and I can definitely respect that. I do see the fandom is being kinder to her now vs when the show was airing and even Sasha had nothing but nice things to say about Loosey, I really hope she can come back for an All Starts and have a nice redemption storyline because she definitely did not deserved a lot of the hate she got. Also, YES.. Mistress and Luxx were great TV and entertaining but they definitely used that as an excuse to constantly bully Loosey and put her down.
@MissCreepyDoll
@MissCreepyDoll Жыл бұрын
It's wierd seeing Lux and Mistress cry victim but choosing to play shady character on the show 😭😭 Mary don't throw the rock and hide your hand after
@alyssasbackrolls-nr7bu
@alyssasbackrolls-nr7bu Жыл бұрын
Great video as always top!! I'm happy that you included the reunion in the analysis as well, really helped showcase everything especially considering the reunion is filmed much later after everything is said and done
@CataRDJ
@CataRDJ Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit behind on drag race and just watched the episode where she got eliminated and I genuinely felt bad for her. She was delusional a few times and those cartwheels were horrendous, but she was actually bullied for complaining about the same things other queens also said, she should've been in the top 4
@taylorbarnhart9882
@taylorbarnhart9882 Жыл бұрын
top 4 instead of who?
@JoyD.C.
@JoyD.C. Жыл бұрын
Bullied seems a bit strong, but regardless, Loosey's Drag did not merit a top-four placement. In season 14 Daya Betty's drag and dance skills were across the board on par with the others. Even though I didn't particularly like her, I could see why they did a top 5. In this case, a comparative look at Loosey's runways and lipsyncs shows she just wasn't as good as the top four. She deserved to go home when she did.
@leonardo.diCATio
@leonardo.diCATio Жыл бұрын
​@@taylorbarnhart9882 Luxx or Mistress
@m00nrac00n
@m00nrac00n Жыл бұрын
Lets not sent any hate for Queens playing the game, but looking back it was obvious that Loosey was a strong competitor and Mistress + Luxx dropped a tactical nuke on her anytime they could to push her into the villain edit or bottom.
@taylor7666
@taylor7666 Жыл бұрын
while i think luxx is an absolutely incredible queen, this is exactly why im glad that luxx and mistress didnt make it to the top two
@myk-popper2960
@myk-popper2960 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was the victim of attempted gaslighting and group bullying merely for being a 'threat' to them watching it all go down and seeing Loosey eliminated while Mistress gets rigged into the finale was just TRIGGERING
@Jamesb1234
@Jamesb1234 Жыл бұрын
Girl take the day off and touch grass
@Jayveemon
@Jayveemon Жыл бұрын
Same, watching Misstress and Lux being terrible toxic the whole season that I eventually stopped watching the season because it wasn't fun anymore. There's shady and then there's relentlessly shitting on someone and they did that the whole season.
@shimakaido8876
@shimakaido8876 Жыл бұрын
Some innocent/ignorant drag race fans finally found your channel 😭 they thought you’re fighting these queens when they themselves couldn’t determine the actual enemy lmao
@GothBoyUK
@GothBoyUK Жыл бұрын
They are like rabid dogs at times; dogs that don't actually watch the content before attacking it. 💅
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
Still we can see where the boat lets itself to move by the air. Just to sell people content, he started by saying he aspires to get money like the other channels
@brentbentKRFP
@brentbentKRFP Жыл бұрын
I'm also hoping Mistress had her realness turned up to 11 because she was self producing to be extra for the show's sake. Still doesn't negate when such actions move over towards meanness instead of being extra. Totally agree extreme environments trigger extreme behavior and hopefully queens will step up way before production does, which seems to be the case for almost every issue. The queens force change upon Ru and production because they demand it, much like how trans contestants are encouraged now instead of discouraged. How Ru went from only certain types of drag is valid to all drag is valid becoming the mantra. Hopefully, Ru will keep being forced to evolve. Keep up the great work.
@thenewMedusa
@thenewMedusa Жыл бұрын
I hope the entire Rupaul dragrace production team watches this video and realizes their show promotes abuse.
@nk1645
@nk1645 Жыл бұрын
I really felt for Loosey and honestly speaking watching her being bullied so badly by Luxx and Mistress was so stressful and triggering for me as someone who experienced bullying too. I loved Loosey from the very beginning and was rooting for her. She looks great and she's so talented, she did great on the show. What Luxx and Miztress did was truly disgusting. It's sad how the show turned from "charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent" to just pushing for drama and encouraging messy behavior.
@SMAnthonyW
@SMAnthonyW Жыл бұрын
And this is why Sasha and Anetra were the rightful top 2.
@lynneseibert9749
@lynneseibert9749 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! There’s a difference between strategy and just plain meanness. It doesn’t matter what color or size you are - that isn’t an excuse to be nasty. Appreciate you.
@ci_sylar
@ci_sylar Жыл бұрын
YES YES YES, word perfect yes!!.. I’m so glad someone finally articulated exactly how I perceived this whole narrative! Great video, well done!!!
@madisonmorris6368
@madisonmorris6368 Жыл бұрын
Props to you for making this video. All season I've felt that Loosey was being manipulated and put down for others' gain. I absolutely agree that there should be no hate to Lux or Mistress because it is a high-stress competitive environment, but it is dangerous to frame gaslighting as just "shade" or "old school drag" or a queen's "personality". At the end of the day, it just felt like there was a clear disregard for Loosey's feelings and she never got any validation as a drag queen.. much less as a person. It's not the fun kind of teasing when the other person isn' having any sort of fun... it ends up being bullying instead. But I don't hate either of the queens because nobody's perfect and I'm sure it was a defense mechanism in such a competitive show. They don't deserve any hate, but this different perspective needs to be out there. Thanks again for your video
@nakosfan
@nakosfan Жыл бұрын
i find it kinda crazy how i realized how deep i've gotten into the drag race realm when i see how crazy the production has edited loosey this season. like when i watched it with my friend who just gotten into the show, she was so irritated by loosey's action and I had to explain to her that it's probably just a case of evil editing.
@jacqueleneclark2325
@jacqueleneclark2325 Жыл бұрын
Salina tried to tell her and she still tap danced into every trap they set.
@michellecgb
@michellecgb Жыл бұрын
Most of the time, I understood Loosey. I wish she wasn’t easy to wind up, but when she opened up about how she was bullied as a child, I understood. It sucks that Luxx and Mistress saw a weakness, exploited it, and then acted like they weren’t trying to be mean to her or get a rise out of her just to make her feel like she shouldn’t feel that way. Sometimes they were being playful and it was just banter, but not always. I didn’t like them for that.
@hausofdownboots
@hausofdownboots Жыл бұрын
Someone send this video to Loosey!! Let her know!
@shanel4294
@shanel4294 Жыл бұрын
this, i think it will explain what she was feeling in the moment
@ZakMustang
@ZakMustang Жыл бұрын
I am sure she knows, but there is no point in her dwelling on these conflicts. It's up to the fanbase to embrace and redeem her and ignore the ones they believe to be undeserving of a large platform.
@av2279
@av2279 Жыл бұрын
Imo, it feels like MIB and Lux are trying to give the air of insult-sarcasm-queen Bianca Del Rio and bad-bitch Naomi Smalls, respectively. But it's just giving mess.
@MoMo-ky7dj
@MoMo-ky7dj Жыл бұрын
I love your brain. I totally agree with you. Great video as usual 🙏
@agustinalopez3623
@agustinalopez3623 Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more with everything mentioned here 🙌🏾✨ fame or hype should not be persued at the expense of (another person's) mental health. Let's normalise kindness and understanding, and fair competition strategies. Even on rpdr.
@Bruce-yv9tm
@Bruce-yv9tm Жыл бұрын
Top this video is perhaps your best one yet. Very analytical, very detailed, very well-researched and very insightful. I sensed the picking on Loosey and was hoping it would be expanded upon by someone. I think she ended up being my favourite of the season.
@atalia96
@atalia96 Жыл бұрын
I am extremely impressed by your channel! Thank you so much for all the in-depth analysis! The work that you do is immense and is very much appreciated! Your videos are amazing
@amybarnhart6012
@amybarnhart6012 Жыл бұрын
I am so thankful that you made this video. Your words were thoughtful, and expressed my own thoughts of this situation far more eloquently than I could. While I prefer to watch the queens in group challenges building each other up, I know disagreements are unavoidable. But actively gaslighting a competitor just to force them to crack is truly heartbreaking to see, and goes against the spirit of unity and acceptance the Drag Race culture strives for.
@elgranespejo
@elgranespejo Жыл бұрын
This video was really well done!
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
A little too many repetitive words
@Pippis78
@Pippis78 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Luxx and Mistress were bullying especially Loosey and playing genuinely hurtful mindgames. Made me quite uncomfortable. I hate when people cover their meanness by saying "I was just JOKING". They want to get to do shitty stuff without taking any responsibility. That said, I hope people leave Luxx and Mistress alone. There's too much hatred in the world already. No one is perfect.
@Angxlitoz
@Angxlitoz Жыл бұрын
wishing all the best for loosey
@darianbasques2452
@darianbasques2452 Жыл бұрын
Did not know how to play the game :/
@OYJluv
@OYJluv Жыл бұрын
I feel Loosey was punished by the producers for trying to not play the game. I dont know if these queens did all this bullying themselves or if they were aided by producers but they want to portray every queens game as tainted, because acting al proper makes no tv and like you said, RPDR is more about the tv drama than anything else.
@markalexander3659
@markalexander3659 Жыл бұрын
Luxx is definitely one of the nastiest queens on the show in ages. Hate that she was rigged to the finale.
@allanpaologupit4942
@allanpaologupit4942 Жыл бұрын
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS VIDEO. SO INFORMATIVE YET SO SENSITIVE OF EVERYONE'S WELLNESS. THANKS!
@TroyMichael86
@TroyMichael86 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. It was absolutely maddening to watch Mistress & Luxx this season and then people just eat it up. I don’t dislike or hate them by any means, but it was actually distracting and took away from me fully enjoying them on the show.
@ZakMustang
@ZakMustang Жыл бұрын
Seeing nasty behaviour being excused and rewarded has definitely been the most frustrating aspect. That and people mindlessly throwing around accusations of racism, which is just divisive and undermines the seriousness of that topic. Then again the bullies themselves unfortunately prefer to hide behind these accusations too, so it's not too surprising.
@emotifcontigo
@emotifcontigo Жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful for this video. Loosey was one of my favorites and I really wanted to see her on the Top 4.
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