Tormek knife sharpening using FVB

[@kadoman65]

This KZbin channel feels like a University course.

[@tayloralbrecht8362]

To get your jig placement on the blade correct do you use a method?

[@johnkantar]

can I use the FVB to sharpen knifes with the stone ,rotating in the other direction

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

Sure you can, the FVB is both for honing on the leather wheel and sharpening on the grinding wheel "with the stone", "edge-trailing", "away from the wheel". In our other video "FVB for Cleaver Sharpening" I show how we do it, and we also sharpen wide knives this way, but of course any knife can. Difference in the burr you get grinding as you say "with the stone", versus "edge-leading into the wheel" is explained in my Knife Deburring book.

[@johnkantar]

thank you for replying so quick @@knifegrindersaustralia5158

[@tayloralbrecht8362]

Hey Vadim, where do you purchase the diamond plates or what brand is it

[@PhillipsTravels]

In another video Vadim says they are simply the cheapest diamond plates he could find @ $10 delivered. I am UK based so found £10 diamond plate on ebay branded by Silverline

[@tayloralbrecht8362]

Daniel Phillips thank you

[@bigd3105]

How come my applet I just downloaded has a spot for blade thickness and yours doesn't when shown on your computer for the fvb? Was it something just added recently?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

This video was taken before we upgraded the Tormek software to include thickness behind the edge.

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

Guys, you probably know that, but I should mention that grit of the diamond plate you use to grade wheels is to be about 2-3 times coarser than the target wheel grit, e.g: For SG#220 - the diamond plate # should be 80; For SG#1000 - the diamond plate # should be 400; For the Japanese SJ #4000 - the diamond plate # should be 1000 or 1200. When you treat the SG wheel with a diamond plate #400, followed by #1000, you get the wheel grit near #1200-1500

[@yaroslavostapuk2381]

Knife Grinders Вадим, доброго времени! А приспособление от Тормека для правки камней (TT-50 Truing Tool) Вы не используете?

[@plifplouf]

Have you guys noticed a difference in grit for the SJ-250 with 1000 vs 1200 diamond plate?

[@patrickdevleeschauwer514]

in your opinion, where is the bigger edge finish qualty to be gained, with a finer stone (SJ250) or with better stropping (and the FVB)

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

The Japanese wheel SJ-250 used edge-leading gives the best edge apex width of 0.3 micron - this is a fact by SEM; for comparison, disposable shaving razor apex is

[@ToolTalkCanada]

Can't you do the same edge-trailing sharpening and controlled-angle honing on a stock Tormek by moving the support base to the front of the machine? It looks like the FVB provides a more comfortable working height, and perhaps more clearance for large knives or cleavers, but does it offer any other benefits for common sized kitchen knives? Thanks very much. Great video.

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

We would not mess with our FVB if it were possible at all. In the Tormek frontal sleeves, the support legs are in the way of the knife jig, letting you do only knives with very short blades. Try a kitchen knife yourself and you will see straight away that it is not possible.

[@ToolTalkCanada]

Thanks for your quick reply. I have experienced some of those problems and that's what led me here. I made a low profile knob for my knife jig tonight that clears the support arm, but haven't had a chance to really try it out yet. The FVB looks like it's probably a better long term solution. Cheers.

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

Near 500 Tormek owners that have bought our FVB think the same. It is also about the sharpness you get when honing at the right angle thanks to the FVB software. Cheers.

[@poolpro92651]

Why doesn't Tormek made a support like this? I know there are some who freehand trailing-edge sharpening but for greater accuracy your product looks like a good idea. Do you prefer to sharpen knives on the Tormek this way?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

We collaborate with Tormek: they supply us with the XB-100 part, we produce the Frontal Vertical Base and provide software for Tormek kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKasmpyAmsZ3pNU As of today, near 1000 Tormek owners use our FVB, and over 4000 use our software for Tormek in 59 countries.

[@johnkantar]

Just a thought if you used diamond past on the honing whee eg .5 micron would it sharpen better. Thank you John

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

The burr from the #1000 wheel requires a 3-6 micron abrasive to get deburred, i.e. the Tormek honing paste is right on. Not possible to deburr with a 0.5 micron abrasive, diamond or else. An excerpt from my Knife Deburring book: "Talking of mainstream knives, for edges set on # 1000, works well a compound with 3-6 micron abrasive particles like Tormek honing compound; for edges set on # 400 - 600 it is a 5-6 micron compound like Autosol metal polish; and for edges set on coarser grits it is a 5-10 micron honing compound like ZAM or Green Rouge. "

[@johnkantar]

ok thank you

[@fp5776]

Does this program work on an Ipad? And can i use the standard programm on a Scheppach, until,i get my Tormek?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

We have applet for Scheppach for Windows

[@timothydunlap7856]

Scheppach for windows

[@sharco215]

What is the equation to calculate the height of the universal support ?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

knifegrinders.com.au/05Equipment_scripts.htm

[@lowkick77]

영상 끝 부분에 나오는 칼날 각도 측정기 이름이 뭐여요? What is the name of a measuring instrument using laser?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

You can buy it straight from CATRA catra.org/pages/products/kniveslevel1/lkep.htm

[@lowkick77]

Thank you very much..

[@galafever]

Knife Grinders - doesn’t exist anymore. Do you have a new link?

[@poolpro92651]

@@galafever knifegrinders.com.au/ it is posted in the description above.

[@johnkantar]

im having slight problem with software when I do the same numbers I get 79.28 instead of 160.55 help please

[@johnkantar]

when I set it on tormek 7 FVB standard,wheel 237.7, Knife jig 140, angle 12 = 82.09 am I doing something wrong

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

Your number is correct, but coming from the Frontal Vertical Base applet - it is for use with the FVB and is separate to our Grinding Angle Setter applet. For grinding into the wheel, as normally people do on Tormek, you need our Grinding Angle Setter software for Tormek. In the beginning, people may confuse these two applets.

[@johnkantar]

this is very misleading in all the videos their is no mention in two separate software versions ,even when I commented in earlier videos with you, you indicated I could grind with the FVB rotating in other directions on the stone again no mention of separate software, then I purchased the FVB and software was supplied and now toy are telling me its only for half the machine , is their any cost for the full version .in all the videos you show you say and the software says (enter dia of honing or grinding wheel) please respond thanks John @@knifegrindersaustralia5158

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

These two applets are easy to tell apart - the interface has different options, and the caption of one reads "Grinding Angle Setter", while the other "Frontal Vertical Base". Function is different - the "Grinding Angle Setter" is for grinding into the wheel in the normal Tormek position, while the "Frontal Vertical Base" is for grinding edge-trailing and honing on the leather wheel in front of the Tormek. The "Frontal Vertical Base" is a free application coming with the Frontal Vertical Base attachment, while the "Grinding Angle Setter" is a paid software for Tormek. Please check your email [e-mail]

[@johnkantar]

thank you for your quick reply and email much appreciated, very professional John

[@joethomas7405]

For the APP, where can I get the 4 digit access code?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

You mean the FVB applet unlock PIN? It is given to you on purchase of our Frontal Vertical Base. The FVB parameters are hardcoded into the software, so the applet works only with the Frontal Vertical Base we produce.

[@JANNETTYRACING]

How do we order this Front Vertical base package I visited your web site and could not find any way to order.

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

Please go to the Sharpening Shop on our website knifegrinders.com.au/11Shop.htm

[@samosan4099]

R u using the 4000grit japanese stone?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

I've tried Matsunaga (Sun-Tiger) #4000 Japanese stone wheel for Tormek, and Tormek's SJ - Tormek's is the best, we use it - but not in this video

[@hermanfourie66]

@@knifegrindersaustralia5158 . In what video do you use the japanese wheel on a double bevel kitchen knife(not single beveled japanese kitchen knife)?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

@@hermanfourie66 You will not see it. In my Knife Deburring book I have a SEM micrograph, showing that when we deburr a knife on the Tormek Japanese SJ wheel edge-leading, we get a 0.3 micron edge, i.e. x3 times thicker than a shaving razor. This is hardly arm-shaving, and our customers expect a better sharpness than that. In our workshop we use the SJ wheel edge-trailing to mirror-polish the edge, but in this case you still need to deburr it by different means. This way we do get a sharper than razor edge - the process is described in the Case Study part of the book.

[@hermanfourie66]

@@knifegrindersaustralia5158. Thank you very much, Sir, for your quick a detailed response; i appreciate it a lot.

[@ADAMM362]

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[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

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[@MARKET_ANDREY]

бумага похожа как папирус?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

Cigarette rolling paper, it is like Russian "papirosa"

[@scottydudley5700]

Once again, a great demo. I am having trouble finding the diamond plates. Can you provide a source. Thanks

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

Scotty, here they are on the Australian eBay - try to find similar on your USA eBay. Australian eBay: www.ebay.com.au/itm/Diamond-Plate-Stone-Knife-Blade-Sharpening-Whetstone-Polishing-Sharpener-60-3000/371947163036?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

[@Dark_Lobster]

Do you use a diamond plate to grade down back to grit 220 as well?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

No, it won't work.

[@Pendell]

@@knifegrindersaustralia5158 Do you use the stone grader to grade back to 220?

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

We have a dedicated finely graded wheel; you cannot run a sharpening business grading the wheel back and forth. Let me clarify on the diamond plates. A diamond plate cannot revert a finely graded SG back to the #220, you will get a coarser grit in-between; but the original SG #220 that you get after truing the wheel, can be maintained with a #80 diamond plate. To finely grade the SG we use a diamond plate #400; when we want a really fine grit, after the #400 we use the diamond plate #1000 shown in the video. For the Japanese SJ #4000 - the diamond plate # should be 1000 or 1200.

[@tayloralbrecht8362]

Where did you find metal wheel holder you have on the floor?

[@max88nielsen]

@@knifegrindersaustralia5158 i Can inderstand as you run a business you can’t change grit back and forth. And use several stones. But I don’t understand why you cannot change the grit back to 220 with a 80 grit diamond plate. Or with the Tormek stone grader grader. And that it is possible to achieve insane sharpness 😱with your methods. With just one stone and one honing compound. not sure if the sharpness is because of a wire edge though. As i saw in other of your videos. I’m very happy that you share all your knowledge with us. Thanks.

[@scottydudley5700]

Found a similar item from Amazon (where else?). Thanks

[@johnkantar]

thank you for your quick reply and email much appreciated, very professional John

[@gj9256]

Здрасьте,а можно по русски клип сделать про тормек Т-8? Хочу приобрести но всё нерешаюсь :) ...мой английский слабоват .

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

Вы имеете ввиду видео на русском про сам Тормек-8, или про наше приспособление к Тормеку показанное в этом видео?

[@gj9256]

@@knifegrindersaustralia5158Хотелось бы про сам тормек Т-8...не только как точить ножи...это показывает каждый! Как заточить ножницы,топорик или лезвия парикмахерского тримера...может можно заточить лезвия газонокосилок ? Ещё ведь маляры используют разные скребки .... :) Спасибо!

[@knifegrindersaustralia5158]

Я мог бы напечатать для вас русские субтитры к существующему видео - пошлите мне эл. почтой [e-mail] линк к видео которое вас заинтересовало и я постараюсь помочь с переводом. Кстати, лучшие 2 видео про ножницы: By Jeff Farris kzbin.info/www/bejne/fniplnWabb-mpq8 By Steve Bottorff kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3LJoIWuppqbors Топорики в картинках на нашем сайте: knifegrinders.com.au/06Procedures_axe.htm

[@gj9256]

@@knifegrindersaustralia5158 Спасибо вам за вашу работу и время, обязательно посмотрю ваши линки Если будут вопросы я напишу.Thank you again :)

[@MARKET_ANDREY]

хороший станок, но для меня он слишком дорогой((((

[@TrollpoeArcher-b6p]

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