Tornado GR.4 Brimstone (SAL), Paveway 4 & IR PGM CAS in Ground RB (War Thunder Firebirds)

[@csii6478]

Sad they should had at least made the brimstone fire and forget like a maverick instead of how it actually operates irl making it laser guided is a huge handicap

[@SMJ495]

Yeah any non braindead pantsir player is going to effortlessly shoot these things down

[@noobhue1997]

A A-G missile with a ARH+SAL seeker would be very interesting. If Gaijin made it as this: first you need to use the laser to designate the target, then when you turn it off after firing the brimstone it would use the ARH seeker to guide itself to the target designated. Right now the only A-G weapon with some resemblance to a radar guidance is the Vikhr in the Su-39, which can use the kopyo-25 to guide the missiles, but it is barely usable because of, you know, Gaijin reasons. The proper radar for the Su-39 for ground strike is the Kinzhal-S 8mm wave-length radar; but again, for Gaijin reasons, they haven't added it, despite that they probably have asked Leninetz for info into the Б004, the Su-34 PESA radar, the same company that developed the Kinzhal-S. Even the VN-001, the Mi-8AMTSh-VN radar, probably has less info about it than the Kinzhal-S, because it is a very recent design, and still Gaijin somehow added it.

[@notmyrealaccount5245]

Meanwhile the Russian gets kh38mt with fnf totally balanced

[@christopherchartier3017]

@@noobhue1997it’s quite the enigma. Personally I’m waiting for the Stormbreaker bomb, but that would break GRB as it is now

[@Zx17OPv57i]

@@SMJ495 even a braindead tbh

[@DarkFlameWolf93]

Brimstones are just depressing in their current state

[@bruhmomentum2901]

Could be better but its not bad, you get hellfires for a cas that are very manouverable so you can snipe some easy kills with it

[@Ben_Kimber]

@@bruhmomentum2901 I personally use them to hunt helicopters.

[@DarkFlameWolf93]

@@bruhmomentum2901 If I wanted hellfires, I'd use hellfires. If I'm on my tornado, I want my brimstones to work like brimstones. Faster, and fire/forget, and able to ripple launch them at a safe range so that pantsirs can cry

[@potatouno]

​@@DarkFlameWolf93"so that pantsirs can cry" i.e destroy GROUND battles, y'all keep coping about pantsir

[@DarkFlameWolf93]

​@@potatouno Oh no, it's almost as if various military doctrines developed around using aircraft to more effectively destroy ground units over the years, going from literally dropping grenades out of biplanes to now with missiles that can guide themselves in from 10-20km away. And it's almost like these weapon systems were specifically designed to counter anti air systems by being fire and forget. You're welcome to cry more about air "ruining" ground battles, but it's a crucial part of how battles are fought. It's like saying infantry shouldn't be added because it'd change up the play style too much. Yeah, portable anti tank weapons are a thing too, designed for a specific purpose.

[@jesusofbullets]

0:55 British forcefield saves once again

[@deca0]

*jewish

[@diesuppe4452]

Black Night doesn't use Trophy does it?

[@jesusofbullets]

@ No, it uses Iron Fist APS.

[@AMDeZani]

I love the Tornado. Such a beautiful machine.

[@Hunter_i86]

Me too!

[@S1su]

The past couple of days I’ve met so many black night and I hate how good their APS is 😅

[@relotuffplayz9019]

Black what now

[@AMDeZani]

Its kinda funny that its not even the top British tank but it's the best one lol

[@S1su]

@@relotuffplayz9019 fixed it 😅

[@relotuffplayz9019]

😂😂

[@ofekk213]

Seeing how good the Iron Fist APS is in War Thunder, I hope we'd see the Israeli Merkava Mk.4A with Iron Fist. Before they implemented the TrophyHV into service the IDF trialed both TrophyHV and Iron Fist. The former ended up being chosen.

[@cofet]

13:36 Holy, this gave me a heart attack

[@martinjuniorbalbihurtado9599]

13:36 CLOAKER PTSD ACTIVATED! "Insert Razormind soundtrack"

[@Hunter_i86]

Scary as hell it was 😄

[@JadedDark]

Great content ass always, Hunter. You make it look easy bro.

[@StrafingHunter]

WOW A TWO IN ONE?!

[@ryanrautenberg6092]

Did you know the 500lbs paveways II/IV have an incredible glide ratio and can hit targets pretty reliably from low altitudes. Ive been using the a10c with 500lbs paveway II's and at 400mph i can hit a target 5,000 meters away while im only at an altitude of 200 meters. The seeker range on the paveway II is 5,000 meters, so thats the furthest you can toss them from for them to glide, but with the paveway IV you can easily drop from further away and lower altitude thanks to the gps guidance and much higher speed

[@Hunter_i86]

Great tactic, and you are right, once Paveway II sees the laser point it becomes the ultimate glider of all time haha.

[@flashtirade]

Always appreciate nice teammates, they are a rarity

[@Hunter_i86]

Yes indeed, a good team makes all the difference.

[@elmarlang1856]

Absolutely perfect game with the Tornado.👍👍👍Greetings from: 🇩🇪

[@Hunter_i86]

Thank you! 👍

[@JuanMartinez-fo5fx]

Brother like always you leave me without words. Excellent video. And in my perspective the best CAS player in war thunder. May God bless you bother and your family. Stay safe and I know in your region there is a lot of changes happening, I hope for the best outcome.

[@Hunter_i86]

Thanks brother, appreciate the kind words, stay safe as well, and God bless you and your family too.

[@lucasmoreno2154]

13:37 holy shit that scared the shit out of me lmao

[@Bright_Stranger]

Damn, that Iron Fist is something else Almost makes me wanna grind UK

[@PanzerSteinn]

I wish the Germans upgraded this beautiful jet like the British did. 3:18 I feel sad for him

[@jordancourse5102]

The LJDAM is pretty good as long as you don’t turn on the laser designator you can drop on multiple targets. Yea the IDS isn’t the greatest though

[@nuclearguy5704]

ever since the update dropped, ive been waiting for this video!

[@Hunter_i86]

I hope you like it :)

[@Random-Griefs]

nice seeing the brimstone beeing used for cas.... (i just watched the defyn arb vid)

[@wenbjiang9534]

hi Hunter great vid as always! Also, what are the two rocket looking thing to the far left and right of the plane

[@Hunter_i86]

Hello. Those are chaff dispensers :) Thanks a lot

[@wenbjiang9534]

@@Hunter_i86 thank you!

[@ArcaneArts17]

Speaking of APS, what do you think about giving more MBTs their APS? for example M1A2 can be outfitted with Trophy from the Merkava, the M3A3 Bradley can get Iron Fist and T-90M can get Arena, which I don't believe is on any vehicle in game yet

[@Hunter_i86]

I'm biased to M1A2 Abrams, I love this tank and I would be happy if it gets an APS system, specially with how powerful CAS is nowadays.

[@janusz4156]

Tornado must comeback in Ace Combat 8. 50 years of Panavia PA-200 Tornado in 2024.

[@Warrior_AP]

13:43 lol aim9 m goes beast mode

[@vandeseite1662]

Respect that you want to face the Holy S1!!! Are there and more tips to Face it? I very time i spawn, Theres already a missle on the way 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Hunter_i86]

Try to stay fast, far and fly perpendicularly relative to enemy radar.

[@Skeltvn]

Brimstone should’ve been implemented like a TV guided missile and should be much faster, even if they kept it how it is now but really fast it would be good.

[@Hunter_i86]

In War Thunder I would vote for adding a realistic unbalanced weapon against adding an unrealistic balanced missile, realism matters and it is what made me play WT. I care about balance but just slightly to be honest. For example if they nerfed Pantsir S1 from 20km to 14km I will disagree. Giving fictional modes\features to weapons or vehicles just to make mains of this or that nation feel happier is something I totally disagree with.

[@Definetlynotwaldo]

we got the missile seeker sight before gta 6

[@Jonathan-yu9ui]

They should just add the missles with arh and give them IR seekers, or a self lasing function so that it wouldnt break the game as you can still fire and forget but smokes will still break lock

[@brockbowling433]

Hunter ive been watching you for awhile now, and I never understood why your mouse movement is so freaking smooth. What mouse do you have or is it just natural arm movement of settings? please let me know and thank you.

[@Hunter_i86]

It is not about the mouse, I just play low sensitivity in WT common controls, sensitivity in zoom is 3%. My mouse is G502x anyway, and I got it recently for one specific reason, the hyper fast wheel, for gradual zoom of helicopters ATGM sight and TGP of top tier jets. Thanks for watching, it means a lot.

[@h.a8681]

The black night is honestly a great top tier tank, just wish it was a bit faster

[@PhillipLindemann]

What fearless SU 34, constantly flying in the skies, but the ally on the f 16 is a good guy, never sleeps, I also fly on the germany f4f phantom, I shoot down many of these fools, since the maverick is not the best weapon, especially with such a thermal imager, and there are only 2 of these missiles, nice "parity".

[@VideoSpectator1223]

3:59 How do you fly and turn while looking backwards?

[@boxx5511]

you can apply keybinds to pitch, roll and yaw

[@Hunter_i86]

pitch and roll with keyboard

[@VideoSpectator1223]

@@Hunter_i86 which are what keybinds?

[@Hunter_i86]

@@VideoSpectator1223 Mine are: W A S D as "pitch" and "roll" keybinds.

[@eurofalke6804]

23:40 He moved at the last second

[@GayRatte]

i waited for this video to come out then clicked on it and watched it

[@samkim8703]

I also watched it, and now i'm commenting on your message

[@Hunter_i86]

Thanks a lot :)

[@thesauceguy1809]

Yeah Challenger 3 would be better if it had an APS, but that will likely happen in the future as the thing actually develops.

[@Kelgo102]

I forgot to download the full version of warthunder so I was wondering why I was getting 400fps during gameplay 😂

[@cacciorix]

Tornado is so sexy...good work brother!!

[@Hunter_i86]

Thanks 👍

[@chrishansmatthews6260]

what do you think about more advanced anti air being added mr.hunter?

[@Hunter_i86]

I would love to see that my friend, I enjoy the battle between aircraft and SPAA more than anything in the game, in fact I would be much happier if Gaijin added IRIS-T 40km max range, and Pantsir S2 instead of Fox 3 spam in Ground RB and Ground SB.

[@hawkiii8930]

Hi Hunter again nice video and are you already excited for the thai aircraft for the Japanese?

[@Hunter_i86]

Hello, not really. Another copy paste subtree.

[@fire_drake12.arc.24]

Its weird seeing paveways glide properly, if only they'd fix the earlier variants so they can do it like they should too. They wouldnt be gliding as far as the IV's but they shouldnt be limited to within the CCIP circle either.

[@TJ042]

How do you deal with the Pantsir so well? I’ve always had trouble and it’s hard to even get experience against them.

[@Hunter_i86]

Stay fast, stay far and don't underestimate it.

[@shaunkelly9053]

The aps on the black night works against apdsfs rounds? I have the merkava4m and its aps only seems to help against missiles.

[@Norlaxia]

the Iron Fist specifically can detect threats up to 1650 m/s, given a long enough map it can intercept APFSDS rounds whilst the Merkava4M uses the Trophy System which can only detect threats up to 1000m/s meaning it wont intercept APFSDS rounds

[@Hunter_i86]

Norlaxia, great answer. Thanks

[@Ben_Kimber]

I'm studying this video like a guide on how to fight Pantsirs in a Tornado. How often would you say this playstyle is successful?

[@Hunter_i86]

Fly fast and perpendicularly relative to enemy radar usually works, and when it doesn't I know that I did something wrong, it is either I wasn't fast enough or I wasn't at the right angle.

[@ThickestKYLE]

Basically, jet launched Hellfire missiles?

[@Andrea-ng8pw]

at 13.07 min what is the ATK on the rwr ???

[@Hunter_i86]

An attacker, not specific, it might be F-111 or Tornado or Su-24.

[@PerfectedVenus_Monsoon]

Since when could APS intercept APFSDS?

[@Reverdex4]

Always have been bro, it’s the ultimate reward for Brit grinder and players

[@alejandropineda1079]

We need better air spawns. Spawning within pantsir's range is mental atm. At the bare minimum we should have 20km or more with a greater spawn zone range so we don't spawn in the same place every single time.

[@frenchdip8551]

I must be missing something, how are you playing night battles? I thought those weren’t back yet? Can someone explain? I would love to play, and I am sure I’m missing something. Thank you

[@Hunter_i86]

Night battles are optional in Ground RB, you must "check" them in order to get them even if they were rare in the match making (the crescent moon icon next to like\dislike map voting). I re-enabled them recently because Gaijin finally disabled the illumination flares and gave green NV to stock tanks.

[@frenchdip8551]

@ Thank you so much for the quick response, I’ll try this!

[@xbladuz]

we need your current graphics settings

[@Weasel65]

black Night aps works on apfds now!? nice it needed buffs

[@Hunter_i86]

At long ranges it does

[@azizbenattia2537]

plz hunter try the german su 22 10.3 BR

[@Kacpertost]

gr.4 was much needed for britain

[@noobhue1997]

A shame the brimstone don't have its SAL+ARH guidance. Using the Vikhr with the kopyo-25 is pretty fun -- when it works reliable, which is somewhat rare.

[@akshaffy8839]

3 aps aved u dman the black knights apas good plus fast realoead

[@michal16a]

I wonder if gaijjin will give finally APS for SEP

[@Registered_Simp]

SEP V3 since that was designed to have proper, full integration with systems like Trophy

[@Jonathan-yu9ui]

​@@Registered_Simpsep v2 could. Trophy was intended for the v2 before the v3 came out.

[@nvscythe4814]

YEAAAAAH MORE TORNADOOOOO

[@nvscythe4814]

Seeing a lot of people use the GR.4 has made me realize I’m not bad with it top tier is just very punishing to slow moving jets without Fire and Forget

[@TheGangstaSanchez]

Ya era hora !!

[@M0LOCK]

Aways get me bombs lofting in wt lol

[@longnguyenngoc2617]

Did they neft the range of brimstone? I thought it was 20km from the dev.

[@Registered_Simp]

Nope. They buffed the hard max range to 27km. But like all things, the aerodynamic range is based on both your launch speed and your altitude. Down low, you can get probably ~12km out of them reliably. But if you're up high, you can squeeze 20km+ out of em'. Mavs have the same feature. Most folks can get 8-10km out of them on the deck, but if you have altitude, they'll go to 20km+

[@sinanaydogan48]

Sight????

[@britishbeef4890]

Its a default challenger one.

[@M0LOCK]

Also missile evaded thing is the most bs handhelding thing

[@Hunter_i86]

Silly addition no one asked for

[@songname7707]

Your channel for me is like being a iPad kid

[@hanz5555]

"Thats why I prefer black night over Challenger 3".... oh.. We all do... CR3 is trash. You give up protection (no spall liner, ready rack that can be sniped via gun mantlet,...) for a little to no benefit. I didnt felt like DM53s are really big improvement over L27.... Soooo If i want the old but Better chally i use BN.If i want something faster I use 2E. I switched my CR3 for a Desert Warrior in my lineup

[@kixtar.-5699]

Doble video c":

[@Zosterias]

With how Su-34 is ruining top tier games lately, I'll just quit the match and take the crew lock when I'm fighting against Russia. Thank God I grinded US, GER, UK, USSR, SWE and CN top tier, I can just quit the match and wait for my crew lock to be over by playing the other nations. I'm tired of being the only one tanking the game, while the whole team gets obliterated. Though removing 12.7 jets out of my line up enables me to have down tiers, but what’s the fun in that? Lol

[@Hunter_i86]

AMRAAM brother, our air force is our air defense. 🦅

[@Zosterias]

@@Hunter_i86 when I fly my CAP jet brother, the team ground units usually crumble lol

[@noONEknows-t4l]

Fly too slowly

[@Sumi_S]

This game will never give anything good to any other country other than Russia And if they do they nerf it

[@licrygh]

You are crybaby

[@Eunski]

This plane is just sad You get a bump in br for maws and a gimped AGM that needs dumb players to actually get a kill. Meanwhile, russia with their su34 is stl in my games.

[@Johnweak-nh8tp]

Hello hunter good vid as always,can i ask which sight you are use on tank it look so cool

[@Hunter_i86]

Hello, options - sight settings - Chally 2 It is not a custom sight, it is officially in the game.

[@Johnweak-nh8tp]

@ thanks,i thought it was mod (: