Great video fellas. Thanks I work at Harbor Freight. The store you are going to is doing it wrong. Our policy is if it was sold as a set we replace the tool with the same one from the smallest set we have in stock. That way you get your tool replaced without any headache. You're in and out in five minutes if we're not busy. We'll just discount the price of the set we stole the tool from by 20% and still make money. We don't even open a ticket if we do that. Somebody will buy it. It's as easy as it gets. Just like Sears used to do with Craftsman. Tell that store to look up our policy. Nobody brings in the whole set. We sell tool kits with over 300 pieces. Do they expect customers to bring in the whole 300bajillion piece kit back to the store just for that broken 13mm socket? F that noise and the dirty trash bag/cardboard box all those sets will be inevitably be returned in. All our hand tools have a lifetime warranty. We make it easy. They made a mistake and work for themselves. Please enlighten them for me haha
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Thank you for being a good one!
@mr.bitsbyte46642 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannelI'll add that I've never even had a slight problem with their warranty at either of my stores
@Typh36212 ай бұрын
This explains why I see tons of stuff on the discount rack at my local store with a single missing piece!
@dcastro55512 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insider info. I always heard the sold-as-set then replaced-as-set
@joeycelis2 ай бұрын
@@Typh3621I always wondered about that too.
@DACFalloutRanger2 ай бұрын
160 PER WRENCH? Snapon is smoking actual crack.
@CranAlley2 ай бұрын
With these you do get top notch performance though
@damienirvin952 ай бұрын
@@CranAlleydoesn't matter, they're not worth $160. You're paying for the name.
@EssensOrAccidens2 ай бұрын
That's why they gotta charge so much. Rock ain't cheap.
@SpeedDemon88X2 ай бұрын
@damienirvin777 You're paying for lifetime warranty, the tool truck visiting YOU, USA made (supporting American workers), and the best overall wrench available on the market.
@FusionBoost2.02 ай бұрын
@@CranAlleyI'll stick with my mountain
@Barrett_Fodder2 ай бұрын
Project Farm has been testing arc and back drag for years...the OG of ratcheting drivers, wrenches, and even things that shouldn't actually, well, ratchet at all. I pretty much bounce between you here at TTC and PF. You're great at producing concise content! Thank you b
@DACFalloutRanger2 ай бұрын
@@Barrett_Fodder 2 best tool channels by a long shot. Empire Outdoors has done some cool (lol) cooler tests though with an enormous sample size.
@EssensOrAccidens2 ай бұрын
TTC is becoming a weekly 'Friday morning with my coffee' ritual.
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! It's why we post in the morning, so you guys can watch it whenever you want throughout the day. Our YT analytics tab yells at us often about how we're not posting when our audience is awake/watching most, with lots of highlighted data. I'm like nah, I'm usually with the family Friday evening - people should just watch it whenever they want. We've had several creators larger than us tell us we're crazy.
@JamesJames-r8t2 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel ❤😀😄 makes my Fridays better ❤
@physh2 ай бұрын
"what new tool am I going to want to buy on this bright Friday morning?"
@jozsefizsak2 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel If you have a good idea, it's quite common to be told you're crazy in spite of compelling evidence to the contrary. 😉
@de_w8tam2 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel I almost always watch on Friday. I rarely let it slip to another day. I don't even use these type of tools often, I just like testing things, measuring them, and writing it down.
@BigBear--2 ай бұрын
Considering Icon regularly has 25-30% sales on their tools. $157 for their set sounds like the best deal to me. Especially with their lifetime super easy to use warranty. I just wish it wasn't a skip set...
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Agreed on all points
@thebarslug2 ай бұрын
They recently had the 40% off ICON sale. I spent way to much but I could justify it by knowing I would only have to buy all of them once and they would never be on sale for less.
@thisisausername12652 ай бұрын
Easy warranty makes this style wrench from Icon a no brainer. If I didn't already own Mountain wrenches, I'd buy them from Icon.
@davidpowell33472 ай бұрын
I guess the Harbor Freight has gotten better but somewhat not as cheap as when it first opened ? Especially the "Icon" or "Doyle" compared against the original Pittsburgh ?
@scottyee7072 ай бұрын
@@thebarslug it did not apply to these wrenches and they have not gone on sale for a long time unless your a ITC member.
@jozsefizsak2 ай бұрын
I did not imagine these traditionally delicate wrenches had become so tough. I guess I can stop babying my Gear Wrench ones now. 😊
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Butts were puckered around the set-up well before these broke. Things have definitely changed in the last 10-15 years!
@rileychu44892 ай бұрын
my 7 year old daughter got a GW ratcheting wrench to give out with one hand ona 12mm nut...instant return. i have an old 2000s GW 10mm and i can put whole body weight on it and it wont skip. GW is trash now
@t90562 ай бұрын
ive been using my gearwrench ratcheting wreches as breaker bars for awhile now and no issues lol
@m_cabral2 ай бұрын
One has to imagine that this is a trickle down of metallurgy and mechanical engineering with the technology available in software modeling packages and foundries just getting better and more consistent when making good steel. When I worked at a store selling knives there was a point where any decent knife maker had the equipment to machine and temper designer knife steel. Then the knock offs got access and the game change. Even Spyderco had to come up with their own “copycat” brand (Byrd) to compete with the actual copycats. These days you can get knives made with various tool and ball bearing steels that have been processed in such a way that you can get them sharp enough to shave, do stupid crap that would break the tips off or chip the edge in a 440 blade at the same hardness, and then actually sharpen them back. As people like to say, “we are living in the future.”
@jozsefizsak2 ай бұрын
@@rileychu4489 There's a guy here who sells well finished but cheap Chinese tools. A few years ago he refused to carry the 10 mm ratcheting wrench because they're used the most and therefore break the most. These wrenches were definitely light duty tools at one time.
@j2kinflarc7682 ай бұрын
I’m 53 and I’ve been using tools since I first started riding bikes. My father worked and didn’t always have time or energy to fix things, so he taught me, at 14 cars, and been working on aircraft for 27 years. Tools and tool manufacturers have expanded and changed. Once upon a time only a few companies accommodated the professional, and they even brought the tools to you on their truck. I have many off the truck tools, even though I started with Craftsman. Craftsman was the tool to go to for most “home mechanics”. Now their are tons of tools and choices, many of them trying to out the truck. Most don’t usually stand up, but work 80% of the time. I pick the tool for the job, and it’s many companies in my toolbox. At least if I break a Harbor Freight tool, there’s 5 around me to replace it.
@paulmohney571518 күн бұрын
back when Craftsman was made in New England,(maybe Stanley ?) you could not find a better tool for the money
@klo16792 ай бұрын
I bought a 22mm one from gearwrench, the one with a non reversible end and a fixed end, and absolutely love it, it has a singular use, for drain bungs on a case IH 50 series combine with tracks, for the final drives where you have to thread the wrench into the side of the drive wheel, a regular ratchet and socket is too tall to fit and you get extremely limited swing, but with the long handle spanner you can easily get a full swing on the bung. And due to the way the flex head works, it means you can much easier remove a bung that has been severely worn down until it has practically nothing left to grip on to. I loved it so much I got a 24mm and a 13mm version for other jobs of similar fashion
@RyeOnHam2 ай бұрын
I don't know. I've broken a few wrenches, but that backdrag factor should weigh more heavily on the overall score. That means more tools or my other hand to hold the bolt to keep it from turning. I'd say that alone would justify the extra cost of the Snap-On if only I had that kind of money.
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Thanks, we'll discuss here about its weighting.
@bigbrown26902 ай бұрын
I dont know ,if backdrag is so important then the gear wrench with only 1 degree away for $160 for the whole set makes more sense. I understand Snapon was the best here hands down but to say the margins it beat them by is worth 8x the price is a hard swallow. I think at $500ish the Snapon have a great argument for being worth it, but at over $800 it’s like damn what are we doing lol
@MrMartinSchou2 ай бұрын
@@bigbrown2690 The backdrag weighting is important, because with the current score-weight, the Snap-On's backdrag could be 0.25 lb-ft or 3 lb-in (!) and it'd still come out ahead in this ranking.
@bigbrown26902 ай бұрын
@@MrMartinSchou Yeah I think backdrag is super important too, I just meant Gearwrench was only 1 degree away from Snapon so to say Snapon is worth 8x the price over 1 degree is where I was like ehhhhh. Honestly surprised the Icon backdrag was so bad!
@maxscott33492 ай бұрын
I was going to say move the decimal over one on strength and it would look about right to me
@BustedGeezerGarageАй бұрын
The concept you are sharing was pioneered by Matco over 20 years ago. I have a set of the tools to prove it. It has a swivel head and sockets fit into the ratchet handle, metric and fractional.
@T0tenkampfАй бұрын
That's the best design imo, iirc they can even fit in things like torx and Allen drivers?
@anthonyiannone76182 ай бұрын
i wish pushy would display his findings on a graph like his torque absorbing big brother
@Mell0hyellow2 ай бұрын
It would just be a straight line ramping up until the wrench broke. Impact wrenches on the torque absorber are putting out variable torques as they ramp up to their max, pushy is outputting consistent torque until failure.
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Correct, the impact dyno is torque over time because each impact hits differently and climbs at a different rate. Pushy is a fixed rate, the time aspect isn't based on tool performance
@kain0m2 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel is it, though? Pushy rotates at a constant rate, but the output shaft won't necessarily get a linear response. Kinda like you feel when a wrench is going to slip or bolt is going to break. Force over angle would be an awesome graph to see!
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
@@kain0m The difference between tools would be primarily the amount the length of the wrench deflects, which I'm not convinced is a worthwhile dyno graph as most people will not understand what the X axis vs y means, and it's not all that informative in buying one vs the other
@boxothefemboy2 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel it would be fun for those in the know though, maybe a small graph in the corner of the screen
@TheOnlySgtRock2 ай бұрын
I bought the Icon set a year ago. I didn't like the price but I really wanted the wrenches. I bought them with a Super Coupon and a $10 voucher so I got them for $190. It was still a lot but I absolutely love them. They are so handy and looking back, well worth the price. I would definitely do it again. Harbor Freight is everywhere these days and they have a lifetime warranty. Easier for me than a tool truck return that I would have a hard time setting up. One thing I especially like is you don't have to flip the wrench over to reverse the direction. No more having to worry about getting stuck with a ratcheting wrench.
@larryblackmon23412 ай бұрын
Out of the box comparisons are great apples to apples. I have seen many say the grease or lube in the Icon are lacking and once changed/or added in some cases it's back drag is much better! This is one of the few channels I would trust to test that. Icon out of the box vs Icon post servicing!
@tshackelton2 ай бұрын
Unlike normal ratchets, most of these wrenches are sealed and non-serviceable.... I guess you could dunk them in some ATF overnight, I've hear that helps some of these units you cannot open up.
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
The icon's felt plenty greasy! Maybe it only made it to the outside of the wrench :P
@Typh36212 ай бұрын
I was thinking exactly this. Todd over at Projectfarm taught me that no 2 lubricants perform the same and that there can be significant variance even in items that look identical. I would totally believe that HF cheaped out on the grease quality, and it would be cool to see some comparisons of one tools performance but with various types of lubricants.
@ForfeMac2 ай бұрын
I usually give all my new tools a shot of grease out of the grease gun. Either disassembled directly into the mechanism or peripherally through the gaps and worked in.
@Chromevulcan26 күн бұрын
I used to be a mechanic (almost 30 years ago) and there's a reason we bought Snap-on, Cornwell and the like. They were better and lasted longer. BACK THEN! Now they're all made in the same couple of factories so there's no point in arguing about which is better.
@michaelcrumlett1872 ай бұрын
I’m one of the weird guys who has examples of all three brands. My Snap-On wrenches are pretty old, but still really good. I use the Gearwrench 7/16” ratcheting wrench for truck slack adjusters, and I really like it. Finally, I bought the ICON when they had a sale. I’m really pleased with those. Ratcheting wrenches have come a long way over my career, and it’s good to see that there are several good options.
@matthewpeterson33292 ай бұрын
You're not weird. I am in the same boat. I bought S-O for over 30 years, with some MAC and Matco mixed in (usually oversized wrenches by those brands). About 5 years ago, I fired my S-O tool truck guy. He started showing up less often, and rarely had my replacement parts even though I had requested them on multiple visits. It started to feel like he only cared about making money (I know, that is important) and less about servicing the customer now that I had a very complete collection of tools and wasn't buying as many. In a moment of frustration, I bought some ICON tools, and had the guys in the shop try them. They all thought they were as nice in the hand, and as functional, as the S-O tools, and they started buying them for themselves. Make no mistake, there is a sense of refinement with S-O tools, but because the ICONs are basically copies, I can't tell the difference when in use. My mistake was buying a very comprehensive set of Gearwrench tools for my sons. They are good-ish, just not great. The biggest issue is the chamfer on the sockets and box ends of the wrenches. It is too pronounced and too often allows them to cam off a fastener, rounding it or burring it. It might sound petty, but a small feature like this is enough to make me refuse to use them.
@Jjmartin15302 ай бұрын
Bro that ain’t weird picking things that are appropriate for your situation. It’s weird when there are better options in a supposed free market but people pay for the name in some instances .
@spamcan92082 ай бұрын
@@matthewpeterson3329not petty if it's mangling your fasteners
@mitchellcrane98092 ай бұрын
@@Jjmartin1530 some people are happy to drive in a chevette some people want to drive in a cadillac , personal choice.
@PhillyRacer1212 ай бұрын
The icon 10/8 is also perfect for air disc brake adjustment. It stays in my pm box for that very reason.
@aimbrock2 ай бұрын
I bought a set of these back in 2018 off Amazon. The box says Platinum Tech but the order lists as ATD Tools 99650. $140 at the time and they're one of my most used tool sets. Reversible, splined, and slimmer than the ones I see here.
@40beretta12 ай бұрын
The only snap on tools I have came in a tool box of tools I bought at an auction. Not to everyone... Don't drink and go to an auction... All I wanted was the Kennedy Tool box. I was going to dump the tool... Went through the box found 6 Snap-on wrenches. No 10mm... today they just hang on the wall.. like a 12 point rack
@randellgribben9772Ай бұрын
the 10 mm socket and wrench are urban legends , people claim to have seen the , even owned one...but ask for proof.. they just smile and walk away
@napalmholocaust90932 ай бұрын
The harder reset backtrack problem is somewhat solved with one hand by torqueing the wrench in a screwdriver motion, that usually binds the bolt into the hole more on one side. Delicate sometimes to not keep slipping off. You get a feel for it. Basically try to take it out at an angle, it won't b/c the hole is straight till it is about out, use that friction to control it. Good way to get a loose long bolt out with one hand with regular wrenches too.
@orangetruckman2 ай бұрын
The real champion here is TTC 🥳 Thank you for another great video that puts out raw information for us to chew on.
@jonfeuerborn58592 ай бұрын
Oh Snap-On... If only you didn't exist somewhere out there well beyond my personal threshold of diminishing returns. $800 for that set is legit insane. (And yes, that implies that the crazy is on both sides of the offerer/purchaser arrangement).
@ForfeMac2 ай бұрын
Snap on was king back in the days before amazon where when you needed something special it was cheaper and more convenient than buying a tool from the dealer, or you wanted something nicer than craftsman with the same warranty and they'd come to you to boot. Nowadays you can get stuff nearly as nice with the same warranty for a quarter the price, so it's only worth it if you've got the strap on truck coming by more than once a week or will make a detour if you call them. I've had three snappy guys service my area in my career, only one of which would go out of their way to warranty your stuff for you, the other two pretty much only showed up to collect payments and would piss and moan and take a week or more to bring you a replacement if it wasn't on their truck when you tried to warranty something.
@d.e.b.b57882 ай бұрын
They're basically now just conspicuous consumption merchandise; bragging rights for mechanics who make a lot off money. Yes, it's nice to have the truck come by to replace a broken tool, but it's not $600 better service. Well, maybe of you're dealing with a stuck bolt on a nuclear sub which has to be fixed immediately.
@nunyabidness6742 ай бұрын
@@d.e.b.b5788 "Dealing with a stuck bolt that has to be fixed immediately" = when the Snap=On truck goes AWOL for 2 weeks
@JaySosaNY24 күн бұрын
I have a snap on guy that comes once a week I owe him nothing there are only a few things they are useful for anymore and this set isn't one of them
@TheWilber092 ай бұрын
I just purchased a set of these made by "mountain " I am told some of the tool trucks will warranty them, 155 for a set. Incredible quality, no need to hold the fastner to get them to ratchet.
@phillewis17682 ай бұрын
I bought mine under the platinum name, less expensive then anyone's. Another great video guys!!!!!
@drew59922 ай бұрын
ATD K-tool mountain icon platinum all the same wrenches
@TheRetarp2 ай бұрын
As a DIY guy that Icon set I bought with a coupon a couple of years ago and it was a fantastic deal. Probably the best wrench buy I've made in quite a long time. The stiff back drag I don't consider to be that big of a deal. If I were a professional then maybe it would be worth consideration. I wish they offered an SAE set (I work on older stuff fairly often). I've seen Mountain SAE versions on other mechanic youtube videos but I can't find anywhere to buy them! Now that I know K-tools are the same maybe just maybe I can find a set.
@TheOnlySgtRock2 ай бұрын
I haven't had a problem with the stiff back drag on my Icon set either. I'm a weekend warrior though.
@jimmyhorton15042 ай бұрын
Great video! I bought the Icon set for $179.99 on sale and am very happy with them so far.
@jaymsprenz2 ай бұрын
I ponnied up an bought the Snap-On. Right off the truck the first nut I tried to remove it broke! The truck owner, and corporate would not refund for diss-satifation. I was so disappointed. I bought the Icon for less than $200 on sale. Icon got the job done, and still going strong a year later. Stoked to watch this!
@davidpowell33472 ай бұрын
Did they replace the obviously defective wrench ?
@RyTrapp02 ай бұрын
The fact that Snap-On doesn't have a HF-like warranty today just blows my mind - if there was ANY brand that should have a legit 'no questions asked' lifetime warranty, I mean...
@RougeDeBlah2 ай бұрын
And then everyone clapped
@ronblack78702 ай бұрын
what ? wow . snap on not giving lifetime warranty on these but charging outrageous prices .what the hell
@mitchellcrane98092 ай бұрын
I have been a automotive mechanic for about 40 yrs now. Bought a lot of snapon and many others. Warranty the tool first , probably just a defect every manufacture has them. However frankly when I hear someone breaks a tool either it be a snap on or cheapo they usually chose the wrong tool for the job. I have never broken a wrench. Ratchest maybe have worn out the heads maybe 5 times due to heavy use. Sockets(impact) maybe 6 or so after a lot of impact gun use, chrome never.
@ianloyd63842 ай бұрын
Keep testing the 19mm. I think the larger wrenches are popular to use with these style double box ratcheting. My vote: See if other ones die the same or less
@ekvictory0072 ай бұрын
Man, i don't envy you on having gigs of spreadsheets and data, but damn do you produce some excellent test results and quality information. Thank you for being awesome! Keep it coming! 😁
@alexnostalgix2 ай бұрын
Reallly keeping Harbon Freight on their toes.
@ElectroAtletico2 ай бұрын
Really waking up all techs to the Snap-On "better steel" sales pitch, because everyone loves to have the privilege to blow $800 to take their wrench to 366Nm.
@reubensandwich92492 ай бұрын
HF doesn't have anything to do with it. They get it from KABO.
@carlb862 ай бұрын
Also $800 set not really making HF shudder.
@de_w8tam2 ай бұрын
@@reubensandwich9249 HF sets the price though.
@lunasol4452 ай бұрын
YO!!!!!!!!! Never thought I’d see you comment here! Love your videos bro!
@Chippy5692 ай бұрын
Mountain wrenches! My Mac guy carried them back in the day before he retired, but I bought mountain brand on Amazon years ago. I had to get a 21-24mm set and they showed up branded "Platinum." I have loved mine so much.
@jeffhill36812 ай бұрын
Have had the Platinum XL flex head offset wrenches for about 6 years and haven't broke one yet, but I'm not trying to! Flex is weak looking but very impressed with durability. GEARWRENCH, not so much. Have the non-reversing XL and the quad box wrenches fail often but I do use them hard daily. Warranty is an issue as the stores I bought them from can't seem to get replacements, and others that handle Gearwrench don't sell the same types of wrenches. The Snap-On non-reversing has been similar in duribility and not able to disassemble to repair, but easy to get warranty. Snap-On also does not make the larger sizes, stopping at 3/4, 19mm. As I use 21 & 24 mm every day for front end work on cars this is the sizes I need the most. PS have the Platinum XL reversing flex wrenches through 27x30mm.
@ShersGarage2 ай бұрын
I break the tool. Drive to store 10 minutes. Replace tool. Advantage for Icon in my book.
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Can't usually leave work unless it's your lunch time in my experience, but the weekend access is nice which tool trucks cant touch.
@ShersGarage2 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel true. Tool trucks don't show up every day though. At least not ours.
@TONYSTARK-jh2wu2 ай бұрын
facts i drive by harbor on the way to work and to home it's only 5 minutes from my work so it's a win win
@doctordiesel54672 ай бұрын
Until you drive their and they don't have any in stock 😢
@doctordiesel54672 ай бұрын
Issue going to be on horizon as Chinese companies keep buying out Taiwan manufacturers and moving the production to mainland China tools will be harder to obtain thats the plan to get Taiwan hurt its manufacturing hurt its economy take them over with out invading usa needs to be manufacturing more products period
@marrowsmith62712 ай бұрын
Need to include the matco updated version with recessed reversing lever...beefier then the original kabo version
@MyOsist7 күн бұрын
I would super interested in this. Also add in other double flex head ratcheting wrenches Tekton updated theirs in the last year. Gearwrench 120xp would be interesting. There are a bunch of others. Great video as always
@crazymasina852426 күн бұрын
I'm in my late 40's when I started wrenching I busted my hands up a lot with cheap tools so I eventually bought higher end tools like snapon mac matco. Now the cheap tools have caught up and are almost on par. Congrats to them but I'm also thankful for my choices in name brand tools they have stood the test of time over and over again.
@martinsmith29482 ай бұрын
I have the ICON ones and I LOVE them! They were expensive for harbor freight but worth every penny. Favorite tool in my box
@guess18662 ай бұрын
Me too
@wIzKid161002 ай бұрын
Same, literally my go to on everything
@guess18662 ай бұрын
@@wIzKid16100 yup
@guess18662 ай бұрын
@@martinsmith2948 i wish I had these 20 years ago
@michaellindsey132 ай бұрын
the ICONS are great. i use these specific wrenches professionally. cant justify buying the snap ons
@DonziGT2302 ай бұрын
The Snap-On costs more, but it's so much easier to hand the dealer your paycheck than having to take it to the check cashing place.
@thegreatchickenoverlord59762 ай бұрын
Glad to see more hand tools return to the channel. I know 0 degree has some gearless "ratchet" wrenches. Would you folks giving those a test?
@ToolinAroundTools2 ай бұрын
I remember in their own short the ratchet wasn’t actually making any progress in the demo, watch the socket.
@shanerorko80762 ай бұрын
I bought the Snap-on gearless ratchets, the 1/4 and 3/8 drive, they sit in my tool box and never get used. I tried to undo something fairly tight with the 3/8 one and the sprauge bearings bit into the body and put dents there, I can feel them. Gearless is not so great.
@ryandickerson63952 ай бұрын
I have a set of these made by SK Tool back in the day, around 2008. XXL flex, they were great. SK discontinued them and as they broke, I was unable to get them warrantied. Soon after they were discontinued, Mountain began making them, then EZRED. The EZRED ones seemed to have issues with the chrome flaking. I now have a set of these ICONs, they're virtually identical. In performance, they are very similar, but it does seem that the ICON has more backdrag, which is something I've noticed with their ratchets as well. The ICONs were well worth it with a 25% off We Miss You coupon.
@SK.ALL.THE.WAY12 ай бұрын
The S•K version of these wrenches were also manufactured by Kabo. They were the G Pro Series S•K offered for a short time. I have locking flexhead SAE ratcheting S•K wrenches that were also made by Kabo.
@countswing2842 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, nobody beats Pushy. NOBODY! Thanks for another great video. Cheers! 😎👍🔧🛠
@shanerorko80762 ай бұрын
The first ones I saw was Blue Point, this was 15 years ago, I have a set and they work great. The first ones I saw with the deeper drive was a brand called Kabo, I think they're a Taiwanese brand, a work mate has a set. What I do with my 19mm blue point one is sometimes add through sockets on it as the through sockets have a 19mm drive hex, this is great for serpentine belts. As for cracking bolts and nuts, my argument is, why would they be made long to work like a normal ratchet spanner? I crack stuff lose all the time with my set, the 14-12mm just got replaced only because it was skipping teeth due to the play at the drive. If you break them often, you're doing something wrong lol.
@brianbanks30442 ай бұрын
ratchet wrenches aren't really used for nut busting torque...usually you loosen the nut then finish it off with the ratchet wrench...I get the test shows extreme situations but generally speaking, the I con and Gear Wrench will do the trick 98% of the time...the snap on will get the other 2%....for 800 bucks???, not sold on that unless you like giving the tool guy money every week, which they LOVE
@NONO-hz4vo2 ай бұрын
If it is really stuck on a sharp rap with a hammer may be needed and there is no way I want to do that on a ratcheting set.
@shanerorko80762 ай бұрын
Lol, I'm a technician with 17 years experience all on the tools, no office years. I have had my blue point set for 15 years of double box ratchet spanners, with flex heads. I break lose everything with them, I never grab another spanner to break stuff lose, I don't get failures very often I think two have broke in 15 years, both replaced under warranty. Plus they don't make flex head non ratchet spanners, likely because the ratchet ones are strong enough.
@puterg0d2 ай бұрын
@@NONO-hz4vo I do it all the time. That's why high quality wrenches exist, and why that's what I buy.
@NONO-hz4vo2 ай бұрын
@puterg0d yeah there is no way that is good for it.
@shanerorko80762 ай бұрын
@NONO-hz4vo dude, they're tools, they eventually will wear out or break. It's how long they last that is what matters, when you get 15 years out of a set 5 day weeks using them every work day, then that is a reasonable amount of work they have done, with only two failures in the set 8-19mm It's also a time saver for me, so I buy tools to save time, I don't buy tools for them to be perfect mantel peice items, they're bought to work.
@darkerbinding69332 ай бұрын
For those on a budget, you can get a set of non-reversing, flex head, ratcheting box end, extra long format wrenches for $56 from Orion Motor Tech. I was going to buy Mountain wrenches then decided I could break a lot of these before I'd regret buying them. So far, no breakage.
@Parents_of_Twins2 ай бұрын
I'm excited because my DCF964 finally shipped!
@VorsprungDurchNik2 ай бұрын
I have had the Platinum brand version of these wrenches for a couple of years, and they're alright, but that direction switch can be a pain. When Snap-On came out with theirs I snatched up the only set my dealer had... once I got past the eye-watering pricetag. But they're fantastic wrenches and do everything you need them to perfectly. The backdrag on these is a really big deal since they're usually being used in very tight spaces with limited access.
@H0kieJoe2 ай бұрын
Yep. The ability to work this sort of wrench in tight spaces is huge reason why you buy them in the first place. Something which seems to be lost on many of the CCP bots ragging on Snap-On. If you're a shadetree mech, buy the cheaper stuff and be happy. Stop crying about Snap-On.
@ScreamiNarwhals2 ай бұрын
I’m in the Air Force and work at an aircraft maintenance unit. We only use Snap-on. Snap On WILL NOT honor our warranty claims; we have thousands of dollars worth of broken tools that are just sitting, waiting for the warranty. But they don’t have anything in stock. Don’t buy snap-on.
@COBRO982 ай бұрын
I've been trying to tell people this for 20 years. At least a dozen broken sockets & several ratchets they refused to warranty.
@afellowinnewengland61422 ай бұрын
Have an officer put a stop on tool orders until that gets resolved and they'll warranty things very quickly. Gotta keep the cash flowing.
@TekkHakk2 ай бұрын
years ago I worked at a different location and needed a tool warranted, snap-off says he couldn't warranty it because I didn't buy it from him. Snapoff sucks.
@scottyee7072 ай бұрын
so they wont or cant?
@COBRO982 ай бұрын
@@scottyee707 They come up with excuses not to warranty, you rarely hear about it because Snappy fan-girls will bite your ankles at anyone not justifying their $130,000 in wasted money. Snappy is so self-entitled they claimed I "abused" my tools, the truth is their sockets are prone to cracking and any veteran mechanic will tell you this. Their metal is strong but it's also a touch too hard. It's not the quality it was 40 years ago.
@juanangeldiaz6624Ай бұрын
I only have 2 sizes from the ones I will actually use from snap on. The switch on the back compared to the side switches is what sold me. I used the snap-on 12mm and 14mm so much I have had it warranty once. Doing hino dpf's have tight spots and the side switches would engage and lock the icon in place and had to use pry bar to get it out. Snap-on never got stuck like that.
@Iowa5992 ай бұрын
I'm a pro, and I have had a set of Snap On ratcheting wrenches for ~15 years (flex head open/ratchet, not double), and I have never broken one. None have ever needed serviced. down-time costs us money, so we pay a lot to avoid it. I have used them in situations I was sure would destroy them, and they have survived, unscathed. I paid a lot, but they have been worth every cent!
@NONO-hz4vo2 ай бұрын
Come from a family of auto mechanics working in both their own shops or in dealerships, just don't buy the cheapest tools your and are fine. Unless you are making $800 and hr and going to get a tool you don't have a backup for or an alternate means then maybe it is too costly. This is why for some of the specialty tools the Snap-On is worth the price, but for a standard box end set, you are wasting your money.
@JackTorrance3332 ай бұрын
I only buy snap on and Mac. My customers pay for the best of the best. No compromise.
@NONO-hz4vo2 ай бұрын
@JackTorrance333 you need snap on or mac to do a good job?
@JackTorrance3332 ай бұрын
@@NONO-hz4vo I want the finest of everything to do my jobs. I charge enough to warrant it. It’s taken me decades to achieve this level so it should come as no surprise.
@NONO-hz4vo2 ай бұрын
@@JackTorrance333 fair enough. F1 teams almost exclusively use Facom Beta and Snap On.
@blackbirdpie2172 ай бұрын
The delicate nature of the fine ratcheting mechanism is actually why I like these. When you can't reach the bolt with your hand it's so frustrating when the ratchet won't click on the back stroke because its resistance is too high. Having a light touch is what makes them useful. I really never broke one in all my years wrenching because I knew they aren't as robust as a solid wrench. Don't torque on them and don't make them more robust. Just use them correctly. I found the gearwrench brand to be excellent and affordable.
@HiFiInsider2 ай бұрын
I thought Mountain was the original and they sold under EZ-RED name. Appreciate the history explanation.
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Here's some additional tid-bits. Mountain is a tool line by ISN or Integrated Supply Network. A massive tool warehouse in the USA that sells to a lot of tool retailers. They used to have a somewhat extensive line in Mountain, then developed Monster tools and Mountain got left behind except for these wrenches which always sold well. Monster tools got sued into oblivion by Monster energy drinks because they used a similar color and sort of font like idiots, so only a few tools like these remain from their old line left. Their most recent line is K-Tool also discussed here, same set.
@operator80142 ай бұрын
I have some of EZRED's 1/4 drive flex head ratchet wrenches. So so dang handy.
@nordicpride97082 ай бұрын
@@operator8014Pretty sweet indeed
@nathanhakala48592 ай бұрын
What about the ones VIM tools sells ?
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
@@nathanhakala4859 are they double Ratcheting ends like these?
@karimgaleana2 ай бұрын
Seeing Pushy work is mesmerizing. Who ever dreamt up Pushy deserves a raise.
@sladeoriginal2 ай бұрын
Don't tell Mr. Subaru, he gonna be BIG MAD!
@afellowinnewengland61422 ай бұрын
That Snap-On won?
@sladeoriginal2 ай бұрын
@@afellowinnewengland6142 that snapon won while putting mechanics into crippling debt
@Alan_Hans__2 ай бұрын
The flexing of the body of the wrenches before the heads let go :O
@InCountry69702 ай бұрын
As a Snap-on owner for many years, one must remember that the Snap-on truck comes to you at your shop or place of business and shows you new tools or swaps out broken ones you have damaged. The business practice is also part of their big price for tools
@brianwelch15792 ай бұрын
Unless they don't swap out your tools, maybe you bought them from a different truck guy and he doesn't want to warranty yours. My dad had a LOT of trouble with this, because he bought his snap on tools through his fortune 500 workplace.
@jnmc-vx4fw2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@BigInjun052 ай бұрын
Yeah if the tool truck came monday morning and you broke a tool monday afternoon, you dont have a tool for a week when that truck comes back around. With my icon i can go out that night after work and pick one up. And with the $355 i saved pit it towards a nice dinner. Shit with all the money saved from buying icon over snap on i can literally buy a brand new car.
@dancooper60022 ай бұрын
Wow, you know it did cost me $500 to drive to harbor freight the other day with my Osprey and the cost of jet fuel. Maybe Snap on is worth it for the service!
@phillipbainbridge91072 ай бұрын
@@BigInjun05 I've never had a Snap-on franchisee that wasn't willing to make a trip to me on an off day. Try again.
@williekaminski370517 күн бұрын
Great video as always. The snapon wrenches seem crazy expensive, but...they are super smooth, US made, strong as heck, and the biggest thing to me- low profile. So many times I have tried to use a gearwrench ratcheting wrench only to find that their mechanisms are so darnn wide that it wont fit. Grab the "over priced" snapon, and it has no problem fitting where the gearwrench wouldn't. Add it all up and the snapon is worth the money to me.
@FusionBoost2.02 ай бұрын
Need to really be drinking the snap on cool aid to buy those... I'll stick with my mountain wrenches
@nordicpride97082 ай бұрын
Your Mountain wrenches are the EXACT wrenches as the ICON (Kabo).
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
@@nordicpride9708 But for less money, so
@FusionBoost2.02 ай бұрын
@@nordicpride9708 I know they are lol
@JonahLyman177615 сағат бұрын
I like how you stated that you cycled them to break them in. Something that Project Farm doesnt do that really disappoints me on his tests. Some ratchets come “broken in” and others need to be worked in. My first Snap-on ratchet was crazy high in backdrag when I first got it, now that Ive broken it in its super smooth.
@madjackgamingandfitness4982 ай бұрын
Double box end wrenches have become an after thought with pass through ratchets. It’s been one of the last tools Id buy because I’ve never run into a problem that couldn’t be addressed with a ratchet or wrench. So 800$ is absurd and totally not worth it.
@Nitrokz712 ай бұрын
Food for thought. During a last year's tool event Harbor Frieght put out- they would start providing individual tool sales online. So if you lose a tool for a set you need to warranty, you could purchase the individual tool online then warranty the whole set
@nathanw.53672 ай бұрын
“As much as it’s a fidget spinner now” 😂😂😂
@mrb18642 ай бұрын
Snap-On beats ICON lol As a auto mechanic I may buy the snapon if can get a deal some time in future, proper design effort addressing issues of the Kabo design . recessed switch, low back drag, slim ring walls and proper tough is kind of worth it for pro use. I don;t buy much snapon but what they do extra well is worth having .
@FusionBoost2.02 ай бұрын
@@mrb1864 I'm auto too... Don't see a reason to own the snap on
@mrb18642 ай бұрын
@@FusionBoost2.0 well you don't have to own the snapon but I used kabo and the switch sucks a bit as does the back drag at times . I prefer the 12 point design of the snapon also, I run my own shop, have no tool debts and not a big snapon buyer but a tool I really like I buy regardless of brand/cost .
@michaelstjohn60862 ай бұрын
Have both, bump the Icon selector the other way a lot!
@zrobotics2 ай бұрын
I'd looked at that set on the shelf a few times already and that was my concern. Are you bumping it often enough to where it's worth the snap-on premium and wait?
@operator80142 ай бұрын
@@zrobotics$800? Don't think it's possible to be worth that much.
@FusionBoost2.02 ай бұрын
@@zroboticsI use mine every day for 3 years... I don't bump it very often at all
@michaelstjohn60862 ай бұрын
@@FusionBoost2.0 what are you working on? I love the Snapon ones, and especially the regular box end Snapon ratcheting wrenches.
@FusionBoost2.02 ай бұрын
@@michaelstjohn6086 automotive... I've used the mountains every single day 5 days a week for over 3 years now and not once have I had an issue with them.
@aaronbritt20252 ай бұрын
I bought an EZ Red set from the Matco guy before Gear Wrench was selling them. I broke one and he replaced it with a Mountain brand because apparently EZ Red got absorbed by someone. I broken the 14mm twice because it's the size I use most. The same part failed twice. The black ring cracked, making it slip like a cracked socket.
@BigBear--2 ай бұрын
Btw, can you please provide the actual Lb-Ft torque spec that the wrenches achieve or break at besides just the % value of the official spec? It would be helpful to know what they can actually handle. Thanks!
@TheOnlySgtRock2 ай бұрын
Watch the meter when it breaks. It is showing the actual Torque.
@BigBear--2 ай бұрын
@@TheOnlySgtRockMy point is it's not in the charts/spreadsheets. So you'd have to go back to every video to try and catch that spec. Also not sure that's the properly calculated applied torque at the lever point/head on the wrench, or just the torque figure for the force the machine is applying elsewhere. Those could be two totally different numbers, and probably are.
@TheOnlySgtRock2 ай бұрын
@@BigBear-- In the end all the torque numbers were acceptable to me and I would use a breaker bar for anything that is extremely tight and if I happen to break it, it's going to warranty anyways.
@BigBear--2 ай бұрын
@@TheOnlySgtRockYeah, I agree in general on using the right tool for the job, ie: breaker bars. Prob is some bolts are just not accessible with a breaker bar. At least not without having to do a ton more work, like pulling an engine, or dropping sub frames, transmissions, etc. Still, generally, I agree.
@philiptreptow59832 ай бұрын
I have the “Matco” branded ones. I have used them a lot. Never broken one and have definitely abused them. One of the best wrenches I have ever purchased. I believe I payed around $300. In my opinion worth the money. That being said if the Icons were available I would have purchased those over any other brand.
@MacAutoDiag2 ай бұрын
It's amazing that people willingly delude themselves into paying snap off prices
@blackrifle67362 ай бұрын
*Somewhere, PT Barnum is laughing...*
@CKDMJ2 ай бұрын
Matco had the Special Forces sets way back in the late 90's early 2000's. They had SAE and metric sockets, 3/8 adapter, flex head ratchet, straight ratchet and an air ratchet. Still have my set, held up very well and works great.
@Mansyansbbsanbs2 ай бұрын
Please test the new hyper tough brushless 20v tools🙏
@Raymo2uАй бұрын
The XL GearWrench 10mm/8mm ratcheting flex boxhead is literally the only tool that makes doing a waterpump on a R56 Mini somewhat easy. It makes doing the waterpump a 1-2 hour job, everything else and its almost a full day of work. One of my favorite purchases.
@R3cKi72 ай бұрын
Snap-On is just the Apple of tools
@huasohvac2 ай бұрын
Except you can repair their products and they don't become obsolete after a few years
@nordicpride97082 ай бұрын
Says the poor person that can’t afford them
@Delalcon2 ай бұрын
@@nordicpride9708 we calling people poor for not buying 80 dollar wrenches now? Thats food for a week
@volvo092 ай бұрын
@@Delalcon $800 for the reversible set of 5 wrenches.
@dancooper60022 ай бұрын
@@nordicpride9708 How do you know he is poor? I stuff the money I save buying Harbor Freight instead of Snap on in the S&P 500 and pull 10% returns.
@jondavid58715 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! I got the icon set a year ago and i have barely used them because I'm scared to break one and harbor freight is so far away. Maybe i shouldnt worry? Told my snap on dealer just today, im happy to pay more for a better product, maybe even double. But 4x+ is insane!
@Nolano3862 ай бұрын
Every time pushy appears I yell "PUSHY!!!"
@heiner712 ай бұрын
Pavlov at work.
@gregblau80822 ай бұрын
I've had them and Lowe's make me bring in whole sets and at least once I was missing pieces. Luckily they didn't check. I know some companies have to send back the old set for the store to get credit for replacing the tool but don't see the difference with taking one out of a new set and sending the rest back with the broken tool. I don't think harbor freight even does that though since they always have a few of this particular set with a missing wrench in the clearance section
@montecorbit82802 ай бұрын
At 8:11 Snap-on test.... If you look carefully, you can see the entire wrench bending slightly....
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Only a little bit :P
@montecorbit82802 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel I wrote that before I saw the rest of the video. The part where Pushy broke, the wrench was also bending....but I didn't write that down.
@BigBear--Ай бұрын
A caution about backdrag being an issue for some. I generally find that if we're talking about similar designed tools, meaning the general parts and operation are similar. That ratcheting wrenches mostly, that have a very low back drag up front when new, tend to later have problems with skipping teeth, or jamming either "open", or "locked". Especially when going slower. Not sure if it's just debri that get in there, or the already looser springs wear out over time and start misbehaving. Just I never had good luck with them. So I usually try, if I can, to test them before buying, and actually prefer to have a more positive click/backdrag. Also I never completely remove any nuts or bolts with the wrench anyway, so I have no problem breaking them loose with the wrench, and running then out with my fingers once loose. Same for going back in, I'll start them in by hand, until I get them finger tight, then usually finish off with a wrench. Granted this is all within reason, I don't want them too stiff either. Just don't like them realky loose. I want them feeling and sounding similar both both directions, with same sounding/feeling positive clicks for the full 360°.
@alannguyen50502 ай бұрын
Wait... so HF icon, mountain and all others with the side switch are all just made by one manufacture? So you should just get the one who's cheapest?
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
Correct, depending on how much ease of warranty factors for you
@puterg0d2 ай бұрын
Yes. Absolutely yes. I have some, they will go to my son because I am buying the Snap-On set after seeing this video. The $800 is still hard to swallow, but after seeing this, and the rest of the details (better design, Made in USA, what others are successfully selling the chinesum ones for, etc), it's a little bit easier to swallow, especially with a cold beer to wash it down...
@stevenjguzman81962 ай бұрын
@@puterg0dI have the Snap-Ons and wouldn’t give them up for any of the others. 10/10 would buy them again.
@TheOnlySgtRock2 ай бұрын
And so therefore they should all have the same gearing and back drag but according to his video they had differing back drag amounts.
@puterg0d2 ай бұрын
@@TheOnlySgtRock It's called quality/consistency... Something that's lacking in chinesium tools.
@minilogoguy182 ай бұрын
Been using this Icon set for a few years, got them back when they were $200 for the set and it's honestly become my favorite sets of wrenches. Been using them in a professional environment as a tech at Tesla and it's made me want to fully swear off the tool trucks and just go Icon for anything I need in the future. Having the offset and reversing features has made these super useful.
@jacobstrutner82322 ай бұрын
I bought the matco non reversible ones 8 years ago. Extra long standard and metric. The other guys had them and we would literally stand on the big ones to lossen things in certain places these were required working on combines. Mine all still work just fine and $250 a set
@scottysgarage43932 ай бұрын
Baffling why anyone still buys Snap-off. The prices are laughably absurd.
@Tearflavoredcereal2 ай бұрын
There’s tons of funny out there that love to show off “ it’s snap on”. 😂
@joemiller18102 ай бұрын
I buy some of their stuff but the prices on sets like this are asinine. I let them know they don't care.
@puterg0d2 ай бұрын
Some of us prefer quality over chinesium garbage. Don't get me wrong, I am far from a "Snap-On fanboi". Most of my tools are old school Craftsman, SK, Armstrong, Lang, Proto, Wright, etc, but most of those other companies have "dried up" when it comes to quality Made in USA tools; leaving Snap-On with little competition in that regard.
@NONO-hz4vo2 ай бұрын
@@puterg0d Kind of why I find myself with some Snap-On. I try to get SK or Proto as they are made in USA mostly but sometimes Snap-On is close enough in price or has a special tool that is worth it.
@puterg0d2 ай бұрын
@@NONO-hz4vo SK isn't anymore. You can still find some NOS SK tools, and I've even bought some myself recently, due to the quality for the price, but you can kiss that warranty goodbye unless you're OK with having your Made in USA SK replaced with a Made in China SK (I'm not - I'll throw it in the trash if it breaks and by a Wright or Snap-On). I do have a decent amount of SK tools before they got bought out, but again, I now look at them as "disposal" IF they ever break (which is not likely, as they are very good quality tools) since any replacement would be a lesser chinesium tool that I don't want.
@NewEstate4thDimension2 ай бұрын
Just a heads up if you’re buying these to augment your set up and can wait at least every couple months you can get 30% off with no exclusions (or on icon specifically or whatnot), and you can get these for 169 and change.
@middleclassthrash2 ай бұрын
Took me until 12:18 to notice the googley eye.
@kylesebring2 ай бұрын
Your comment is the only reason I noticed it lmao
@cnf60452 ай бұрын
The mountain wrenches are awesome, love them. I’ve had the 8-19 set, as well as a 21-22, and a 24-27 for better’n 2 years now, daily use, I’m the front end and suspension tech, so they do not get treated gently. Think the only one I’ve broke is the 13-15, don’t remember how I broke it, but I do remember that I’ve put a 5 foot snipe on it and leaned on it really hard and it didn’t break. I’ve seen my head tech snap the heads off of 21MM bolts with his. They’re exceedingly tough. They’ve become my go to Christmas gift for anyone who pulls wrenches, including a 220 pound relative who’s a firm believer in’the tighter the better’, and a very good friend who’s a farmer and equipment mechanic, and those wrenches are never more than 10 feet from him and he’s not broken one yet.
@barrymccaulkiner70922 ай бұрын
I've had Mountain wrenches break. Trying to get them replaced under warranty was like pulling teeth. I've had Icon wrenches break too. Still having to run to the store is inconvenient. If those Snap On wrenches are stronger that might mean the job will get done _that day_ rather than after _running to harbor freight_ or _in a few weeks_ trying to warranty the Mountain wrenches.
@mediocreman22 ай бұрын
Yep. I really like my Mountain wrenches, but I know 100% that they aren't very heavy duty.
@NONO-hz4vo2 ай бұрын
Or you take the $600 you saved and invest in and in the odd chance you break a wrench that $600+ covers your inconvenience. The only reason I buy anything from Snap-On is because they are American made. I don't particularly care to send so much money to China or Taiwan when I can keep it here.
@FusionBoost2.02 ай бұрын
@@mediocreman2 I've never broke one yet, been 3 years
@MisterFribble2 ай бұрын
I definitely agree the backdrag needs a higher weighting. All 3 of these wrenches performed at least decently strength wise, but the delta between the snap-on/GW and the Icon in backdrag is huge.
@RJM_20232 ай бұрын
Nice video. Please do the Dura tech next and the Astro nano ratchets too. In 3/8 and 1/4.. 😊
@tedvandell2 ай бұрын
The first I got was Mountain brand. It's been 4 years, and there's been lots of abuse. Everyone of them still works. Definitely grab them if they'll fit in there. I have lots of stuff from when I started buying tools in 1977. I've never bought SnapOn. Doubt, I'll start now.
@grandrapids572 ай бұрын
Snap-on - "very impressive!"
@davidcanida74712 ай бұрын
My local harbor freight will swap individual wrenches. Had to warranty a couple of those but I've been using them daily as a professional mechanic. Icon seems Tobe holding up better than the mountain/platinum/EZ-RED wrenches I've had through the years
@Hansengineering2 ай бұрын
You submit these for warranty? That seems to fly in the face of the _spirit_ of the warranty if not the letter.
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
We don't submit THESE from testing for warranty unless it's for info in the video about the process. We still have these broken. We do warranty our own tools though that we break doing just as stupid stuff by hand using them.
@Hansengineering2 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel OK. That seems very reasonable.
@jaredprince97322 ай бұрын
I got the first set of snap on wrenches my dealer had. They were sitting on his truck for almost 2 months before he gave me 400 trade in on a matco set with a missing 12-14. They're great wrenches but for the price I wish they came with a case like the cheaper options so they didn't have to sit loose in a drawer.
@andrewfidel22202 ай бұрын
You need a negative points column for price like you have for the impacts, thr Snapons might be better, but if you can buy a complete set for what one wrench costs (your k tools example vs snapon) then that has to figure into most folks buying decision.
@jonanderson51372 ай бұрын
A separate "value" column would be nice.
@kcgunesq2 ай бұрын
Agree. And also, possibly, an "Warranty Coverage and Availability", measuring both the length of the warranty and how easy it is to use. Be hard to measure, maybe, but it is definitely a major consideration.
@clivematthew-wilson79182 ай бұрын
You are the most articulate geek on the web! If Shakespeare had ran a tool-test channel, he would have talked like you
@Nordman5552 ай бұрын
People will complain about snap on prices but we often dont pay list price. What complainers dont get is a pro who uses a tool every day all day and it holds up and also gets replaced for free if it does break. Oh yeah for their whole life....that is snap on prices
@greasemonkeymechanic12 ай бұрын
All these brands are lifetime warranty, also snap-on technically has a clause that their tool warranties are only for original purchaser, not something any other brand limits people on.
@shogun22152 ай бұрын
Even with everything you've mentioned, they're still not worth their laughably absurd prices.
@briansavage9322 ай бұрын
Harbor Freight is also a lifetime warranty, they don’t give a crap about who the original purchaser is, and you don’t have to wait in the tool truck guy to show up. Just take it to the store and exchange it. So ya know… there’s that
@spamcan92082 ай бұрын
Found the snap-on dealer lol
@Prestiged_peck2 ай бұрын
Not true, retail stores also impose that original purchaser limit, they often arent checked at the counter, but per corporate rules its original purchaser only. @greasemonkeymechanic1
@oldguy20822 ай бұрын
I own the HF set, used a 25% off coupon to buy it. Used only one wrench only twice, but, it was very helpful in a tight space. I'm not sure I'd pay regular price for it, however, one thing is for certain; I'd never pay $800 for the Snap On set. Even with the sometimes special sales price, I could buy two sets of HF and still have money left over for something else.
@SilentRacer9112 ай бұрын
I have a lifetime 50% discount with Snap-On thanks to my tech school…
@Binford25002 ай бұрын
I only got 1/2 off for the time I was in school.
@ianloyd63842 ай бұрын
Client graphics. Enjoyed that channel
@matthewweaver11232 ай бұрын
Harbor freight's brands hold a middle finger to everyone else's patents, about time a brand give 'em the finger back.
@R0boT4ter2 ай бұрын
Matco did offer those exact style wrenches for a short time but they now offer my preferred style back-of-head switch under the part numbers SRWFXLM52T 5pc - 8mm-19mm set and the SRWFXLM22T 2pc - 21mm-27mm set
@AFTERSHOCK-bh7hh2 ай бұрын
Incoming broke snap-on haters
@afellowinnewengland61422 ай бұрын
I'm really OCD about backdrag, so the ICON is a big fail for me in that regard. I use Gearwrench for this style and have been satisfied (though they're inconsistent in drag in my large set). The Snap-On is impressive, but I honestly wouldn't be comfortable spending more than $90 per wrench. At $160 I have to tap out. Good to see that Snap-On delivered a decisive victory though unlike some other tests we've seen. They really need to do some price elasticity research because I feel that Snap-On would actually be more profitable if they lowered price and increased their volume. I'm their target, but they get comically high sometimes on the hand tools.
@justforkiks292 ай бұрын
Mountain is the original manufacturer. So anyone else building that wrench is copying them, including icon.
@silicon2122 ай бұрын
Kabo Tools is the original mfg, they're the ONLY mfg. Mountain is the Amazon brand. Mountain, Icon, Matco, Cornwell, etc ... they are all made by Kabo because Kabo isn't licensing their patent.
@rawalqayyum51282 ай бұрын
Weird way to announce how wrong you are 😭
@TorqueTestChannel2 ай бұрын
@@silicon212 Correct. Thought Mountain isn't an Amazon brand, Mountain is a tool line by ISN, Integrated Supply Network. A massive tool warehouse in the USA to sell to a lot of tool retailers. They used to have a somewhat extensive line, then developed Monster tools and mountain got left behind except for these wrenches which always sold well. Monster tools got sued into oblivion by Monster energy drinks because they used a similar color and sort of font like idiots, so only a few tools like these remain from their old line left.
@justforkiks292 ай бұрын
@rawalqayyum5128 Kabo released in 3rd quarter 2020, mountain released in 1st quarter 2019. There is a trail all over the net and on review sites showing this. Thank you for playing.
@9Blu2 ай бұрын
Mountain is a brand owned by Integrated Supply Network (ISN). ISN is a pretty large tool distributor, they import, market, and sometimes brand other OEM tools like these wrenches. They also supply other companies such as MAC and Snapon (not these Snapon wrenches obviously but other tools) as well as a bunch of store brands. The OEM for these wrenches is Kabo in Taiwan. ISN is just the an importer/distributor and launched them under their Mountain brand. Dollars to donuts they are the ones importing them for all the other brands selling them. They also own KTool which was mentioned in the video as well.
@bruceyyyyy2 ай бұрын
I've warrantied single wrenches from Icon (only broke one in several years, was a 10mm that I was putting way too much torque one) without any issue. They just pull the set off the shelf and set it on the discount rack.