FYI we tried two diff settings (wider, narrower) on the pliers for each test, like you see at 2:34 but top values scores are shown. You don't go beating a flarenut wrench with these in the wrong setting. These nuts are just really soft steel. The best performers have been added to our winners only Amazon page: www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel What other types of tools do you want to see compared like this? Peak torque and strength is one thing, but for us it's usually the fastener that's getting buggered up before the tool. Torque who started TTC is working for Astro Tools in product development, which includes flarenut tools. Always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
@tsunami_stu70322 жыл бұрын
Can you try against the parrot pliers from mac tools
@denisrhodes542 жыл бұрын
Tsunami_stu should be the same as knipex
@roo18712 жыл бұрын
@ Torque Test Channel should have tried the snappys that hold the coin with incredible force with only a rubber band around the handles
@kwmiked2 жыл бұрын
Try a open end Flank Drive Plus snap on wrench and a Icon Open end with the teeth in wrench. I know I've taken off some pretty tight stuff with flank drive open end wrenchs, Even tighten larger bolts in to pump motor where a socket or box end wouldn't fit on cause of the clearance
@James-tf7kn2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see what the opening measures on the pliers wrench in positions that you use.
@cordcd72 жыл бұрын
We all know that soul crushing feeling of the pliers letting go no matter how tight you squeeze the handles.
@snap-off53832 жыл бұрын
? I win the vise grips competition among all groups I'm in. They ask me to come snap them down because they can't get a grip. With mechanical advantage you can make the grip into pretty close to a weld.
@GashimahironChl2 жыл бұрын
My favorite rusty nuts extractor has a flat on the ends of the handles so i can apply some external flat jawed help, probably a safety issue, certainly not the biggest one when i'm working, taught my tinkerer uncle how to do it, he bit his hands with the pliers and got some blood clots, but was still very happy.
@Icekhold992 жыл бұрын
but still grip hard as a mf
@trevorclausen69452 жыл бұрын
My knuckles know that feeling
@snap-off53832 жыл бұрын
@@trevorclausen6945 Clod. Think things through beforehand.
@jameskyser94232 жыл бұрын
The knipex plier wrenches are my daily go to. I do plant maintenance style work and the 5" is my "pocket wrench" I carry at all times. Extremely useful plus they have a ratcheting effect once you get use to them.
@caseyt84472 жыл бұрын
Same! I don't know how I did stuff before having these in my tool box... I end up selling a set to almost every maintenance guy at every plant I go to. I've got almost every size now in both. The mini cobra and the mini pliers are always in my back pocket though...
@jameskyser94232 жыл бұрын
@@caseyt8447 Yelp I have both set and they are unbeatable in my opinion. Those Germans know what they are doing lol
@home541_2 жыл бұрын
@@jameskyser9423 I just bought the 7” and 10” I think are the sizes. They’re amazing for alignments
@fredygump55782 жыл бұрын
Do you have the 16" yet? No set is complete without it! (I service gas stations. I don't always use the 16", but sometimes it is very nice to have.)
@DDrew672 жыл бұрын
Same...that new slip joint pliers ifrom Knipex is really nice too...
@johncarrig2014 Жыл бұрын
I have several sizes of Knipex pliers wrench tools and have found that maximum gripping force is only achieved by correctly adjusting the jaw opening. The sliding jaw should be adjusted so that the handles are close together when the jaws are gripping the workpiece. If the handles are too far apart, the cam part of the sliding jaw is much more easily deflected away from the workpiece. Much more clamping force is developed with less effort at the handles when adjusted properly.
@lucynunemacher125525 күн бұрын
😊
@killnconquer264519 күн бұрын
Yeah didn’t look like he was applying them correctly
@chiquisbaby8112 күн бұрын
Exactly. 🙄🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@WhoPutMeHere7 күн бұрын
May just be my bad eyes but in the first test on a rod coupling w/ the 5” minis, is the cheater bar so far up that its contacting the midpoint/other handle? Making it impossible to fully grasp the handles.
@ionstorm662 жыл бұрын
I have the opposite luck with Knipex pliers wrench. The only time they have slipped was when I stripped out the locking button. I have stood on the handles of my 7 inch pair, and im 275 pounds. They will literally put new flats on rounded nuts if you squeeze hard enough. I always clamp or zip tie the handles before using a cheater on them though.
@MATTLEism2 жыл бұрын
That's my go-to trick for ALL the beans. Either the tool is gonna fail or that thing is coming loose haha
@caseyt84472 жыл бұрын
I use mine routinely to reshape/straighten sheet metal, Im right there with you. The only time any of my knipex tools slip is if I don't have them adjusted 100% right or if I had bad placement on the fastener for whatever reason.
@ChrisZBr0wn2 жыл бұрын
I straight up broke my pliers wrench BY HAND. Still absolutely my favorite set of pliers and I think I'll replace them with the HF version (I know, blasphemy) but warranty is nice
@matthewolson97042 жыл бұрын
I've had a pair of 7" Cobra pliers for probably 10 years now. I found them in a local u pull yard, and just wiped out the jaw in em in the past year. Warrantied through one of my tool guys and we're back in business. Best free pliers I've ever found 😂🍻
@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog61102 жыл бұрын
100 percent my experience, including breaking the teeth out of a pair
@patricklikesmusic1 Жыл бұрын
Just saw this video but found knipex about a year ago. I've tried every brand you can get at home Depot, Lowes, and a few off tool trucks. I bought 1 pair of knipex and I won't go back to any of them. They grip amazingly, they are angled properly and damn that are tough. I use them to hammer on crap and they still don't have a scratch on them. Thanks for doing this video, help get more knipex into more tool boxes.
@AustinRoepke2 жыл бұрын
The note on the Knipex flat edge wrench possibly needing compression on both handles is accurate-and possibly why it shows lower ratings here. The jaw system is a four bar linkage, which only locks at one point and isn’t effective at clamp loading with force on one handle alone. The four bar linkage design is to allow for the flats remain parallel and reduces the probability of rounding off a bolt head, compared to the cobra pliers.
@atmacm2 жыл бұрын
The pliers wrench work off the handles creating a 10X increase in jaw clamp force based off the cam design. Since you’re not squeezing the handles this is affecting the teeth not grabbing. Also, on the cobras on many occasions you didn’t apply the fastener correctly in the pliers, which causes them to slip. Like at 8:37. You had the flat on the flat of the jaw and not in the V notch.
@cdsdesigns80352 жыл бұрын
It also looks like they didn’t check for metal shavings stuck in the teeth. Its happened numerous times working on cheap fasteners where the coating will scrape off and get stuck in the teeth causing them to slip more. Similar to when you use a blade to cut aluminum and they start to bond. I don’t think it will make an astronomical difference, but I do think they could have got better results.
@Justin-C2 жыл бұрын
Yep. This Pliers Wrench testing was the handgun equivalent of "limp-wristing" - i.e., inducing a failure in the device by not following proper usage guidelines.
@geektarded2 жыл бұрын
I’ll wait until project farm does a real test.
@dimitrisd.9173 Жыл бұрын
Very well said.
@eoinfrankel6306 Жыл бұрын
He does squeeze the handles. He explicitly mentions it.
@Spazin0ut2 жыл бұрын
As a semi trailer mechanic knipex pliers wrench are the best hands down. I can get things loose with them better than I can with a good set of adjustable wrenches.
@tjboylan202 жыл бұрын
I would love a TTC hand ratchet test. There’s tons of other channels that have done it but they’re not as accurate as this channel. This channel and Project Farm are the most professional channels and I trust them the most. Love the videos guys keep it up!
@toyotatundra04552 жыл бұрын
You are right on. TTC and Project Farm are the most honest, professional and unbiased tool review in KZbin. TTC should do a test of the Amazon cordless ratchet.
@99andrianmonk2 жыл бұрын
I've used Knipex Cobra 10" pliers for since they were released and could not be happier. They just plain work. I've tried several other brands but haven't found anything better. I've recently purchased the smaller version for tight spaces.
@billymanilli2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE, and regularly depend on, knipex pliers. The way the design "bites" harder as you push (kinda like a pipe wrench) is just awesome. You could literally break head bolts loose with a nice new pair of the "cobra" style ones!
@daftpanda65332 жыл бұрын
I use them at work, doing assembly. While I could tell just by looking at them they are miles better than the traditional Channel lock pliers, I found it interesting they are also better than average flare nut wrenches.
@who_cares8482 жыл бұрын
Im a plumber and thats exactly why i love the cobras. Theyre like a pipe wrench that fits in your pocket. Also they open up way wider than other pump pliers.
@cgg64502 жыл бұрын
It’s a lot easier just using a regular ratchet and socket when working with bolts if you can’t get one loose then just use a breaker bar a breaker bar is far more affective than any plier whenever it comes to breaking loose a bolt.
@tonymontana6734 Жыл бұрын
Would you mind spanding $26 for a backup set
@tonymontana6734 Жыл бұрын
@@cgg6450 yeah right
@CrookedSkew2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing this with hand tools. This channel and Project Farm gives me the warm and cuddlies! :D
@Jay_Ira2 жыл бұрын
You guys are quickly becoming the industry testing standard for various tools we didn't know how to compare. I love this addition to the channel. Now we might as well test the other knock off pliers wrenches like Capri and Icon. I do like that Capri has a thick grip but my gripe is they're a knock off that is not that much cheaper than a Knipex. They have no history of well made pliers like Knipex so for a knock off brand you'd hope they would be significantly cheaper. It would be well worth finding out through your testing if they're worth it.
@m1stertim2 жыл бұрын
have you never watched project farm?
@Jay_Ira2 жыл бұрын
@@m1stertim nope never, I'm only a subscriber to PF for several years.
@robertfrate97382 жыл бұрын
Hi, project farm tod just did a video on pliers,
@summitlt2 жыл бұрын
Between this and PJ you don't need anything else
@Wk-is8eh2 жыл бұрын
@@m1stertim TTC, Project Farm, and Ave are my go to channels for tool reviews.
@DrFiero2 жыл бұрын
As a licensed mechanic (now non practising!) I can tell you - those particular vice grips (not the 'usual' ones!) have SAVED many a rusty nut on an inverted flare brake line for me. The ability to clamp down tight, then be able to wiggle back and forth (try that with pliers) until they break free is incredible. I must have got one of the first sets when they came out, as I think I've been using them for near 20 years now.
@lohikarhu734 Жыл бұрын
you made me realize that the Cobra pliers in my "road" tool kit are 22 years old!
@DrFiero Жыл бұрын
@@lohikarhu734 - If they’re not broken, don’t fix ‘em!
@DannySauer2 ай бұрын
I remember when those came out, and it was closer to 30 years ago. I wasn't super excited about them back then, but maybe the design has been refined a bit since. 🤷♂️
@grantsoderstrom57132 жыл бұрын
You can't put it on the dino, but it would be really fun to test which is the stronger fan base Knipex or Milwaukee...
@mattfleming862 жыл бұрын
Some of us swing both ways. I have my Knipex love but my cobras are Milwaukee. Never got fervent brand loyalty. I like having multiple colors in my bags its easier to find stuff. Except for cordless.. Give me Makita or give me death.
@rooster_saucer2 жыл бұрын
lol
@veridico842 жыл бұрын
@@mattfleming86 I'm the same, I have both and honestly enjoy both. Whichever I see first in my tool draw is the one I use.
@bobalong1312 жыл бұрын
It’d be the Milwaukee guys for sure. I’m in a packout group and if those guys even see the colour yellow in the picture of a rainbow they have a full blown rabies like break down.
@lightwalker2222 жыл бұрын
@@mattfleming86 I have a similar blind loyalty to Dewalt... well not really, but I got a few of them cheap and now I have so many batteries there's not much point in going to a different brand.
@kennethebel7726 Жыл бұрын
You had the wrong position selected for the pliers wrench. It may not seem like it would make a big difference, but because of the cam, they work best when almost closed. This makes it so that the jaw has to overcome the cam. This effect doesnt work perfectly for every size, so you have to find the right pliers for every bolt. I bought them when my mac guy used them to loosen the RBRT display bolt that someone had overtightened. He put all of his weight on a 90% rounded bolt, and it removed it.
@mikenormandy92502 жыл бұрын
I am an electrical apprentice into my third year now, but I have been using Knipex brand pliers and hand tools way before this when doing plumbing, auto maint, sprinkler installation, etc...And I am ALWAYS recommending new tools to guys on the job, esp when they ask to borrow a pair of cobras or linesman, and are surprised how AMAZING they feel and work! - But, it is HILARIOUS how many brands have now adapted the 'cobra' locking water pump plier mechanism...Snap-on/Mac Have STRAIGHT UP borrowed the blueprint...Luckily, Knipex did NOT patent it, or maybe they did and they are making a killing! Even US brands like Channellock and Irwin are now doing the same!
@kraftzion2 жыл бұрын
The knipex pliers wrench is almost tailor made for HVAC. We deal with large brass flare nuts and caps all the time. They are also good for bending sheet metal. I have used them for 15 years now. My opininion is that the 10 inch is the sweet spot. I believe that something about the geometry lets you apply more pressure with the jaws when you squeeze the handles, even more than the 12 inch size.
@iceesrule752 жыл бұрын
Are they good for gas pipe?
@tamas94022 жыл бұрын
@@iceesrule75 Bit late sorry but yeah they are, I've done gas lines with this style of pliers both for wrenching and backwrenching
@shallmaneser2 жыл бұрын
As far as I understand, for the Knipex plier-wrench, you should start with a perfect fit against the nut and then squeeze??? (not squeezing in order to make it a perfect fit)!!!
@Bearcats7372 жыл бұрын
i can honestly say the knipex are some of the best hand tools ive ever used. Now i carry a 7 1/4pliers wrench and the 7 1/4 cobra as a side carry every day
@femto505 Жыл бұрын
I never understand why people like pliers for removing fasterners. I don't run into issues with with open end wrenches.
@Bearcats737 Жыл бұрын
@@femto505 Its not like a normal piers, its more like an adjustable wrench that doesn't slip. for me its handy to always have the right size wrench on me because I'm not always right next to my tools. it absolutely doesn't replace a normal wrench, but a good 95% of the time its all you need
@DaltonJ995 Жыл бұрын
@@femto505 depends if you have a tool box next to you or are making a field repair open end is the way to go if you have them with you but if your going somewhere that you don't want to carry a whole wrench set adjustable pliers are the way to go because we all know adjustable cresent wrenches suck donkey dong.
@MindBlowerWTF10 ай бұрын
@@femto505 I use them for the most random things, but rarely just removing most regular bolts or nuts. Someone moved the wrench that should lay on top of mig welder to remove the bottle? Grab the pliers. Knob of a valve fell off in the shitter? Grab the pliers. Boening part fell off and is hot? Grab the pliers.
@shorttermhobbyist2 жыл бұрын
I edc the mini knipex pliers wrench running service calls. They have saved me at least 1000 trips back to the van...and almost made my Leatherman obsolete. I'm not a mechanic breaking rusted bolts, but they fit every fastener that I come across at my job. Worth $40 for me.
@Frank-pv1hp2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a comparison of open end wrenches. I sprang for the the Snap-On flank drive plus many years ago and I still love them. They have saved my bacon (and a couple of other guys at the shop) quite a few times over the years.
@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog61102 жыл бұрын
I love my wrightgrip for the same reason as the flank drive plus, sk X frames as well. I use run of the mill SK superchrome most of the time, if I feel it may slip I grab the wrightgrips. The wright wrenches have the biting feature, but when it's not needed they fit a little tight and aren't as smooth because of it.
@AtomicReverend2 жыл бұрын
@@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110 i was going to mention wright wrenches they work amazingly for a mid level price tool, my only complaint is they almost always mess up the finish, I would never use them on something like a Harley-Davidson for example.
@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog61102 жыл бұрын
@@AtomicReverend yes, but so do Flank drive plus, and other designs with anti slip like that. The cheap gearwrench sets that have it don't as bad, but they are far lower quality and don't work nearly as well as thw snap off or wright versions. The SK X frames work fantastic as well, but they have more limited use. I like whatever tool works best, if it's $5 ot $500 regardless of brand lol. Not a lot of snap off that justifies the price, but their flare nut wrenches are the best of the 10 or more brands I have owned, and any brand I have used that I remember. There are other specialty ones that are as strong or stronger, but they aren't for the same applications, and they limit access which I find to be 1/2 the battle on most line/flare fittings I mess with.
@robertfrate97382 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m very happy to see you expand with your testing, outstanding quality video ty so much,
@midnitetoker4202 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the direction this channel is heading! Thanks for the great content!
@stratvm Жыл бұрын
how this channel only has 300k subscribers is beyond me. most informative, quantitative stuff we have.
@casemodder892 жыл бұрын
in some tests it seemed like the cheaterpipe pushed the lower grip open helping to slip/release on the nut. i use the 12" wrench pliers and the 10" parrot pliers for HVAC flaring stuff. works exeptional well ! never had one of these slip on other usages like water pumps and stuff. (but i do keep some tention on the unloaded grip aswell)
@Aragorn4502 жыл бұрын
Yeah, especially with the 5" Knipex pliers.
@tripplewhipper2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a shame he didn't learn to use the tool before doing the test. If a 255 lb guy can hang off of them then there's clearly and issue when they're slipping off constantly under his use
@cheatinggravity1732 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw that too..
@IGrocker2 жыл бұрын
I have the 10” Knipex Cobra pliers, although they’re Mac branded. Easily my favorite set of pliers and I use them daily!
@jerryjackson77872 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you confirmed that the pliers wrench needs to have both handles squeezed together in order to avoid slipping. I’ve found the same thing when using the pliers wrenches… which is why I still use old-fashioned adjustable wrenches for plumbing if I’m in a tight spot and can’t squeeze both handles on the pliers wrench.
@victoryfirst28782 жыл бұрын
Very nice test comparing apples to apples. Job well done fella.
@Gazoogleheimer12 жыл бұрын
As an avid user of each and every size of pliers wrench for work and play, I don't think they were adjusted quite right. The cheater was also choking up on the one handle and pushing the two handles apart from each other. I can generally extract ludicrous beans from mine, especially on challenging or rusty fasteners.
@DarylOster2 жыл бұрын
I constantly carry a knipex pliers wrench in my pocket, and to develop max torque they MUST BE SQUEEZED HARD. IMO the test is not valid.
@georgestweeter2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for some nice channel lock type pliers, and my uncle had the Knipex Cobra i loved it. I bought one when it was on sale, im pretty sure its the 10" version. They're the pliers i use for everything, unless i need a needle nose pliers, I'm using my knipex cobra. They will bite in to stuff that locking pliers slip on. 100% worth the ~$30 i spent on then.
@ItsAWhiteMan2 жыл бұрын
Another good type of pliers wrench is the Snap On PWZ0, PWZ1, or PWZ2. These are badass and great for alignments such as inner tie rods or jam nuts here in the rust belt.
@lexel902 жыл бұрын
but aren´t these not just pipe wrenches with the swedish pattern? so comparable to Knipex 83 10 015 or Gedore "Eck-Schwede" and it´s most likely a relabeled BAHCO Ergo pipe wrench but the labeling makes sense, since BAHCO belongs to Snap-On, is swedish and came up with the pipe wrench and the adjustable wrench in 1890 or so o.0
@ES-yc1tp2 жыл бұрын
126K SUBS?? I remember watching your videos in the thousands! Congrats! This channel is amazing!
@crazykenkid2 жыл бұрын
very cool! I use the cobra all day long and I agree with you on the Pliers I run into slippage often! For those raptors if you cut off 2" of the handle you will magically have a 7" ":) well done keep up the great tool reviews!
@pakiw22 жыл бұрын
As plumber, I use rothenberger 1" pipe wrench and knipex cobra 300, makes perfect pair for wrenching steel and cast iron. Round things is their case. They wear out in a year from day to day use. But it is a case when you're okay to destroy look of things. Otherwise knipex flat jaws. It's very rare when I use standard wrenches, occasionally, when something is gona be visible afterwards and cannot be chewed by teeth of cobra or pipe wrench. Usually all pipe fittings are weird size, somewhere in between sizes 22.5 mm or 23mm, or 24 as example. Often casting of fittings is very rough and nothing fits except pipe wrenches.
@Spazin0ut2 жыл бұрын
Omg yes the video I needed and didn’t even know it!
@scottylawson94722 жыл бұрын
Knipex pliers wrench works best when adjusted to where the handles are closest together but not touching. Surely you see how the pivot works and that if the little tab interlocking the lower jaw is pointed towards the jaws the less it will want to push back?
@colbycarnes57862 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see an adjustable wrench in the mix too
@rafbuelens49082 жыл бұрын
I carry a the knipex mini pliers 86 03 125 in my pocket all the time at work. It's tiny but it can reliably grip up to 23mm (7/8 inch). Absolutely love this tiny tool.
@theomnipresent12 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see channellock's parrot nosed 'nut buster' model 410 pliers compared.
@MichaelLeger-o1h8 ай бұрын
I started as a diesel mechanic a little over 30 years ago and the 410 and 414 pliers were the predecessor to all these pliers we have now. They were life savers for me!
@risingawareness132 жыл бұрын
It's easier to keep the knipex pliers wrench from opening up if you adjust them so the handles are closer together when using them. Try again.
@Foxholeatheist2 жыл бұрын
It would be very neat to see the Wera Joker 6004 self-setting spanners in this kind of comparison.
@NebulaNeoca2 жыл бұрын
came here for this
@DarkDraconX12 жыл бұрын
7:52 the parakeet flew away. Those Amazon basic pliers reminds me of Craftsman rebranded knipex pliers.
@MrDdaland2 жыл бұрын
One "trick" I've used to maintain tension on both handles in a situation where I can't grip both is to place a number a appropriate sized rubber bands- keeps a constant force and easy to adjust up or down just by adding/removing
@markdstump2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God this is my dream video topic. This is what I’ve been wondering and what I was tempted to do myself! I expected the Knipex to do better, and it took me a full 24 hrs to accept the results, but data trumps expectation.
@brucemcpherson88322 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your channel - it's interesting and informative, but in this video I feel the need to question your hardness measurements. You used an Ultrasonic Contact Impedance (UCI) hardness tester and this hardness tester technology requires and extremely smooth surface before accurate, repeatable readings can be obtained. Using an air grinder and sanding disc (at 09:25) is unlikely to result in the surface finish need for accurate, repeatable measurements
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
The surface DA was well within the range required for this type of measurement. We use the highest newton push down force version to avoid needing a mirror like surface.
@krabkakes95352 жыл бұрын
Snap on makes a big ass pipe wrench type tool. As a diesel mechanic, I always used the knipex cobras until I got the big ass snap on pipe wrenches. I'd love to see you test those. The pipe wrench from snap on is a similar design where you only push on the top handle.
@boosted2.4_sky2 жыл бұрын
If they're not being squeezed the way a person would squeeze them ( and use them in service)..then the data is flawed... sorry That one handle is a marketing Ploy it's not the way that they're expected to be used... not really
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
We did each both ways and used the highest value. Which we show.
@svn59942 жыл бұрын
It's far from a marketing ploy. Sorry you incorrectly use the tool.
@DannySauer2 ай бұрын
I've used a four foot cheater pipe with this 250 lb man pulling down on just one handle of my Irwin 12" equivalent pliers. They simply do not slip after taking an initial set from squeezing just a little. 😂
@georgecolbert32472 жыл бұрын
A set of Channellock 410 pliers would also work. They are made to remove studs. They also don't have the button sticking out the side. One of my favorites is the Knipex small spring clamp pliers that work quite good for removing spring clamps. Remember that usually a tube nut gets corrosion welded to the tubing, so many times a small hacksaw is the best tool. Just admit that you will need to make a new line.
@orijimi2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a comparison between pliers wrenches and adjustable wrenches. And squeezing pliers wrenches during use has always been a necessity to use them correctly. Gedore's design makes that especially obvious.
@chipsterb49462 жыл бұрын
I had never heard of Knipex pliers but those look like a tool my grandfather would’ve loved.
@DMSparky2 жыл бұрын
I know with the Cobras only the teeth have the highest level of harness, Knipex claims 61HRC. I’m a professional tradesman and usually not super biased between brands of tools, other than I think you usually get what you pay for. The $5 dollar pair of side cutters rarely out performs the $50 pair. I don’t really care one brand or another as long as the tool lasts along time and is comfortable to use, but I will say I think the only tool I have an extremely strong bias towards is the Knipex Cobras, you have an apples to oranges comparison here, test them against their real competitors standard channellock pliers not just in terms of maximum strength but also comfort, grip strength and tooth longevity. I also think just pressing on the top handle is sort of a gimmick they are way stronger when pressure is applied to both handles no matter how they advertise. Not a Knipex fanboy I just think the Cobras are an excellent design for a water pump plier.
@marcowens35222 жыл бұрын
What $5 pair of cutters out perform a $50 set? I'm calling bs on that period I use nothing but knipex and snap on cutters ain't no $5 nothing beating them period!
@Rudy972 жыл бұрын
Knipex tools cost so much because they wear very slow. Use them daily for years and can't tell the difference between old and new.
@svn59942 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as a $5 side cutter outperforming a $50 cutter.
@DMSparky2 жыл бұрын
@@svn5994 whoops typo on my part! You’re right!
@DMSparky2 жыл бұрын
@@marcowens3522 Agree completely, sorry it was a typo!
@joeydehart34292 ай бұрын
Torque Test Channel and Project Farm and both amazing channels and one of the few that give empirical metrics for rating tools with integrity.
@MattLitkeRacing2 жыл бұрын
Look up round coupling nuts. That might be a good way to test grip of pliers on round shapes. Without having to redesign your tester
@mihkelsepp722 жыл бұрын
I've been using the nut pliers and cobra pliers for years at work. They are one of the most used tools in my job. They really do work well on the field and on multiple types of items. (keeping in mind the turning direction) The cobras has to have clean and decently fresh teeth to work good (sharpening helps as well). As for nut pliers, it is more important to get perfect adjustment of the handles than it is for the cobras. I adjust them at largest settings while still feeling the clamping force on a nut/bolt, that's when I get the best leverage of the clamping force while doing less work for it and getting more usable torque out of it.
@Joethetoolguy2 жыл бұрын
Can I get some tests for my Wera Joker guys?
@anonymous4711_ Жыл бұрын
for my German ears, pronounciation at 0:37 was correct, short K and nothing in-between the K and the N.
@uniquehorn1480 Жыл бұрын
No thanks, I'll buy once and cry once...it's Knipex for me.
@-IE_it_yourself3 ай бұрын
save 20bucks on a tool and fuck up a 50buck fitting.
@tdtrecordsmusic2 жыл бұрын
Cool ! Adjustable Spanners :) They seem like the logical next item on the menu. cool channel idea btw
@jetjazz05 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Knipex pliers for daily use in the house, not necessarily a tool for the shop. Love that I have a fun to use aesthetically appeasing piece of art from Germany that will let me grab little 1/4" nuts to tighten for some things around the house. These tools probably can't top a socket or box end wrench, but for simple stuff like adjusting my kitchen scissors or replacing a seal on my bidet, I couldn't be happier. A tool that's a joy to look at and use is more likely to find a purpose in my case. Using a quality tool that's a little strange just brings me joy, what can I say.
@larrycroft4702 жыл бұрын
You guys rock. Your tests have helped me a great deal in my tool purchase decisions. I have not seen you on CP the Tool Addicts Friday night streams lately. We all miss you there.
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu89532 жыл бұрын
As a heating engineer, Knipex "grips", I believe they're called "Alligator" are THE best you can buy. Mechanics rarely seem to use grips and plumbers likewise with traditional spanners.
@Nordspets3 ай бұрын
The Knipex pliers wrench was a lifesaver while i was working on hydraulics on mine equipment! If there was one busted hydraulic hose , in a package of 10-15 hoses varying from 3/8 to 1 1/2 inch , all i needed to bring from the truck was usually the pliers wrench and a deadblow hammer.
@Keifsanderson2 жыл бұрын
I love my Knipex pliers wrenches for plumbing on finished surfaces like shower heads and chrome drains/traps. No marring and great bite.
@John_Ridley2 жыл бұрын
I got a set of those Knipex knockoff water pump pliers from the cheap tools bin at Tractor Supply a few years ago for very very cheap and they have been pretty good so far, though I haven't abused them much.
@trenthollifield69692 жыл бұрын
Loving the channel I'm a plumber have been for over 15 years my go to channel lock type of pliers is 100% vice grip blue and yellow v Grove. man they make my life gravy doing black iorn gas piping they bite like a pit bull
@waiting4aliens2 жыл бұрын
Amazon for your junk yard fetching run. Good video. Bought the Cobras on your recommendation and paid for themselves by the second job.
@ethanyates282 жыл бұрын
as a plumber I only use knipex cobra pliers it came down to me breaking a pair of Milwaukee ones every 6 months. they definitely took some getting use to totally different feeling and design
@lancegaerte67782 жыл бұрын
I love my cobra pliers. Knipex is good stuff!
@sknight03912 жыл бұрын
Wow, those Amazon Basics are identical to the old Craftsman version they used to sell at Sears, until they all went out of business. Identical hand grips & all. I still have my set that I bought at Sears a decade ago. Still work great. I really like the handle material on them. That's a great deal on Amazon.
@hobuttgarage2 жыл бұрын
Those were made by knipex
@jek__2 жыл бұрын
2:29 Lol that half-chuckle when you said "soft nuts"
@biz-73 Жыл бұрын
I've got Cobra's and I went up from a set of old Channel locks, these things are just well made and I love them.
@brianmoore11642 жыл бұрын
Cool test and all data is good data, but I think the natural test is a test of various pliers wrench style vs the Cresant wrench style of adjustable wrench. Yes, I am a Knipex fan and have multiple sizes of several of their tools, but I have yet to put a cheater pipe on any of them. I'm just not sure that represents an actual use case.
@joesmith73772 жыл бұрын
Can you test 6 and 12 point box end wrenches? Also, I would like to see Milwaukee wrenches in your tests. Thank you!
@martinschuessler19362 жыл бұрын
Great test - thanks for doing that! I was a little surprised about the pliers wrenches losing grip but it kind of makes sense when you're approaching the limit of what the design can handle. While they are self-locking, they are still PLIERS and I guess at some point in time the self-locking feature hits a limit, and then you'd have to manually keep them squeezed together - and since you're using a cheater bar, there's no way a human hand can apply enough force to keep them closed. The reason I'm glad I have the Cobras over a generic version is that the steel used by Knipex is exceptional. When you look at tests that also check for jaw damage, they usually come away looking new - something I doubt you'd see with the Amazon basics. The good news - and something you glossed over a little bit - is that the pliers wrenches removed the flare nuts. A single $50 wrench will do the job of a bunch of dedicated wrenches, so that's a win-win in my opinion.
@johnrhodes3350 Жыл бұрын
The knipex pliers wrench work pretty well when squeezed. Because they clamp parallel with the faces, when turning, the corners of the the hex tend to try and lever the jaws open again. But the advantage provided by the little Cam mechanism is usually enough with a good squeeze. They are certainly good enough to recommend giving they a try to see how you get on with them. I like how it's often possible to get a fast open and close ratcheting action going on. If I lost them I would definitely replace them fairly quickly.
@roo18712 жыл бұрын
125,000 subscribers!!! Amazing!! I think I subbed at 10,000ish subs. So excited to be along since the beginning of your amazing journey!!!!!!! Congrats!!!
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JohnnyMarbles272 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I love Knipex, i use those pliers mostly for bolts in tight spaces. The grip on bolts is amazing. Recently bought the Knipex Cobra XS, the mini version of the cobra. Thanks for sharing this video!
@omnipotent872 жыл бұрын
My favorite plier is the knipex 83-30-005 s-type pipe wrench fallowed by channel lock 307 nut buster. I use the channel locks all the time for stubborn line nuts.
@jordonpeterson20442 жыл бұрын
American style pipe wrenches vs Swedish pipe wrenches. For doing vehicle and truck alignments I got rid of all my stand pipe wrenches and went to the snapon Swedish pipe wrench. I will never look back.
@donnellykieranj Жыл бұрын
I've a pair of knipex cobra water pump pliers. They are just awesome. If you're only gonna have one set of pliers in your tool box, it has to be these.
@BHALT0S2 жыл бұрын
I have had knipex cobra's for more than 20years, still have them, still just as good when new.
@bartmeurs982 жыл бұрын
90° pipe wrench works great on nuts and bolts. And a 3/4" model fits in your pocket as wel. Never had one slip on a bolt, with of without a cheaterbar.
@gregblau80822 жыл бұрын
We used them doing alignments on fleet trucks because they can grip the adjustment sleeve without crushing it
@BLUE-wk8wh Жыл бұрын
Just bought the pliers wrench for bicycles work I’m happy to see they are nearly the same at a typical wrench 🥳
@Dcalvert925 ай бұрын
@ 2:45 you do not have the pliers properly adjusted. There should not be that much gap between the handles. You are effectively reducing the power of the lever
@rpavlik12 жыл бұрын
Great testing. I've got the real deal of Knipex Cobra pliers, but Irwin pliers wrench because they were on sale at Menards. Still haven't quite figured out their niche but I have used them for several (probably not recommended) uses. Of course the Cobra pliers are treasured.
@greekveteran271511 ай бұрын
Cobra 180 and 250, are the 2 most used pliers on ,maintenance and plumb jobs. I've used these for many years and I couldn't live without them. I still carry a Cobra 150 every single day, even though I'm retired from my job,because of health issues. While I was working, the Cobra 180, were costantly in my cargo or back pockets, almost every day! One of the best tools ever made a genius design!!!
@jimbrown9885 Жыл бұрын
Love ones like this that throw intuition out the window.
@ko95632 жыл бұрын
I got the Icon pliers, they are awesome. Another good one to try is Menard's Masterforce version of the Cobra pliers.
@MarkVanderberg7 ай бұрын
I purchased a set of the Amazon basic pliers wrenches a year ago and I use them in industrial maintenance situation and I have been happy with them every day. I have a lot of the other brands but I always seem to go grab the Amazon basic ones because of something happens to them they are easy and cheap to replace.
@ShikiKaze2 жыл бұрын
Knipex Cobra and Alligator are a must for every hand tool collection. Hands down. They are extremely reliable. My +30yr old gator still out performs other pliers to this day.
@AG-ld2qt Жыл бұрын
These are very helpful videos, quite beneficial when tool shopping. Would like to see flare nut wrenches grip compared to flare nut sockets grip. 👍
@VoiD1x Жыл бұрын
Got to account for the operator in this experiment. Several repeated tests needed with other operators. Awesome work ;)
@McKevittS2 жыл бұрын
I'm an elevator mechanic and I have used a pair of the 7" Knipex Cobra pliers daily for damn near everything over the course of 5 years. They are my swiss army knife and the teeth still look good. I They have earned my loyalty
@rustyshaklferd18972 жыл бұрын
Knipex have never slipped in my 15+ years of use. Cobras are all you need, but the pliers wrench is excellent at not marring even soft brass fittings.
@scottmarshall67662 жыл бұрын
My goto is good old Irwin Vise-Grips, the curved jaw variety for small tube nuts (1/4-5/16) I use the small curved jaw variety most times, and jump to the larger curved jaw ones (10"). They hold best, and lock, allowing you to apply heat or penetrating oil while turning. The locking is also easier on the hands, especially with the rubber covered 10" model. Thanks for the test!
@matthewolson97042 жыл бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and the title and clicked, thinking this was a Project Farm video. I was surprised but well done as always 🍻
@marygrace52312 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this comparison. I've wanted someone to do this for awhile now.
@jetjazz05 Жыл бұрын
I actually bought a pair of Knipex pliers wrench to keep in my kitchen drawer with some other commonly used tools. I use them for small silly things, just yesterday I used them to adjust the locking nut on a pair of scissors after I adjusted them. They might not be earth shatteringly powerful, but I can say for sure they are strong enough I could destroy the soft stainless screw holding my scissors together if I strong-armed it, so they're more than adequate for around the house jobs.
@josephalexander38842 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I always enjoy your videos. Thank you.