Can Pliers Beat a Wrench? Knipex Pliers Wrench vs Cobra & Amazon Basics Clone

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It's our 2nd look at hand tools here on Torque Test Channel, an d we're taking a look at pliers. Specifically ones suggested to us in our last testing of flarenut wrenches: Knipex Cobra and Knipex Pliers Wrenches to see how they compare to actual wrenches and Amazon Basics clones, because why not?
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Torque of TTC is working for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches (air). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

FYI we tried two diff settings (wider, narrower) on the pliers for each test, like you see at 2:34 but top values scores are shown. You don't go beating a flarenut wrench with these in the wrong setting. These nuts are just really soft steel. The best performers have been added to our winners only Amazon page: www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel What other types of tools do you want to see compared like this? Peak torque and strength is one thing, but for us it's usually the fastener that's getting buggered up before the tool. Torque who started TTC is working for Astro Tools in product development, which includes flarenut tools. Always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

[@tsunami_stu7032]

Can you try against the parrot pliers from mac tools

[@denisrhodes54]

Tsunami_stu should be the same as knipex

[@roo1871]

@ Torque Test Channel should have tried the snappys that hold the coin with incredible force with only a rubber band around the handles

[@kwmiked]

Try a open end Flank Drive Plus snap on wrench and a Icon Open end with the teeth in wrench. I know I've taken off some pretty tight stuff with flank drive open end wrenchs, Even tighten larger bolts in to pump motor where a socket or box end wouldn't fit on cause of the clearance

[@James-tf7kn]

It would be interesting to see what the opening measures on the pliers wrench in positions that you use.

[@cordcd7]

We all know that soul crushing feeling of the pliers letting go no matter how tight you squeeze the handles.

[@snap-off5383]

? I win the vise grips competition among all groups I'm in. They ask me to come snap them down because they can't get a grip. With mechanical advantage you can make the grip into pretty close to a weld.

[@GashimahironChl]

My favorite rusty nuts extractor has a flat on the ends of the handles so i can apply some external flat jawed help, probably a safety issue, certainly not the biggest one when i'm working, taught my tinkerer uncle how to do it, he bit his hands with the pliers and got some blood clots, but was still very happy.

[@Icekhold99]

but still grip hard as a mf

[@trevorclausen6945]

My knuckles know that feeling

[@snap-off5383]

@@trevorclausen6945 Clod. Think things through beforehand.

[@patricklikesmusic1]

Just saw this video but found knipex about a year ago. I've tried every brand you can get at home Depot, Lowes, and a few off tool trucks. I bought 1 pair of knipex and I won't go back to any of them. They grip amazingly, they are angled properly and damn that are tough. I use them to hammer on crap and they still don't have a scratch on them. Thanks for doing this video, help get more knipex into more tool boxes.

[@CrookedSkew]

Love seeing this with hand tools. This channel and Project Farm gives me the warm and cuddlies! :D

[@mikenormandy9250]

I am an electrical apprentice into my third year now, but I have been using Knipex brand pliers and hand tools way before this when doing plumbing, auto maint, sprinkler installation, etc...And I am ALWAYS recommending new tools to guys on the job, esp when they ask to borrow a pair of cobras or linesman, and are surprised how AMAZING they feel and work! - But, it is HILARIOUS how many brands have now adapted the 'cobra' locking water pump plier mechanism...Snap-on/Mac Have STRAIGHT UP borrowed the blueprint...Luckily, Knipex did NOT patent it, or maybe they did and they are making a killing! Even US brands like Channellock and Irwin are now doing the same!

[@bartmeurs98]

90° pipe wrench works great on nuts and bolts. And a 3/4" model fits in your pocket as wel. Never had one slip on a bolt, with of without a cheaterbar.

[@gregblau8082]

We used them doing alignments on fleet trucks because they can grip the adjustment sleeve without crushing it

[@willcox2073]

I've been using cobras the whole time I've been in my trade and they are by far my favorite tool

[@McKevittS]

I'm an elevator mechanic and I have used a pair of the 7" Knipex Cobra pliers daily for damn near everything over the course of 5 years. They are my swiss army knife and the teeth still look good. I They have earned my loyalty

[@biz-73]

I've got Cobra's and I went up from a set of old Channel locks, these things are just well made and I love them.

[@Johneekay]

Definately would like to see the Icon tested. I have the Knipex 7". I want to get the Knipex 10". If the 10" Icon is comparable, it would be $20 less than the Knipex.

[@greentriumph1643]

I have a full set of the Knipex pliers wrenches but I would only use the parallel jaw ones without the serrations for low torque work where you don't want to damage the threads. They are a high-tech version of a Crescent Wrench and would not be my choice for high toque applications. It should be kept in mind each tool for its purpose and not everything is the highest torque.

[@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110]

Snap off is the best on flare nut, i've used knipex hundreds of times to remove damaged fasteners. I use them instead of vice grips now! Cobra's, not the pliers wrench. The pliers wrench is great for fragile, not damaged fasteners including line nuts. They do damage some by crushing to avoid rounding.

[@YankMyChain-1]

The problem that has bothered me the most with off brand pliers is that the adjustable part fails most often before anything else making them completely useless.

[@Rickyrock13]

Cobras and alligators are some of my favorites when you have to get something unstuck without heat, had to take a couple screws out of the sides of my fog lights on my 2013 Mack. Rusted to hell and back and I snapped them right off and got them out

[@autodidacticartisan]

Harbor frieght Doyle pliers are actually good. I have both the knives wp pliers and the hf Doyle version and they're virtually indistinguishable

[@Derp0Army]

You should add a pipe wrench in there to take it off. Or test pipe wrenches in general. Ridgid, Milwaukee, and cheepos

[@Sainte305]

Interesting test. I have a couple different Knipex pliers, I do like the Cobras, but man I have had bad luck with the teeth shearing off. I'd like to see more of the wrench tests. Also, I'd only ever use a flare nut wrench on flare nuts, but I have to see that other video now, curious to see which brands failed to deliver on the Torque-y torque.

[@whatfreedom7]

Couldn’t help but notice the pipe seems like it could be interfering with how tight the grips can close especially on those little knipex.

[@Dfm253]

You should test the Irwin Vice Grip push button pliers, I’m 260 pounds and have literally hung on mine.

[@StwoPsix89]

Another great test. Also good job to Amazon, because "they didn't suck today"

[@interchangexVP3]

The same jaw being soft on 3 different size pliers makes me think it was intentional. Both soft and the tool can't bite. One soft and they save money on materials and process.

[@jeepsaround]

I wonder how the locking adjustable wrenches compare.

[@robertm2172]

I love the knipex but what do I know I only work on airplanes there great for running stuff down till torquing is required

[@justinbanks2380]

Great video and comparison. Today I learned amazon makes some clones of better tools that don't just completely suck. While I won't be replacing mine anytime soon, the price point makes them where I might buy to give to family to keep on hand so when I get asked to come over and help work on or fix something, I have some better tools to use and if I forget something from home, don't HAVE to drive back home to get, can manage with theirs. *Edit: looks like I won't be doing that, when searching on Amazon, the results don't even show up, and when you Google, all of the things you find are unavailable. So looks like either they decided not to continue making and or got sued.

[@indian.techsupport]

Waterpump pliers arent speciaties, its one of the common pliers found in toolboxes

[@whodat90]

“We never have 10” of space when we take off a flare nut” “Let’s put a 2’ breaker bar on all these pliers”

[@SyilxMechanical]

I think im still young until some young whippersnapper tries to get me to use wrench pliers for a job that easily fits a wrench.

[@vincedameion2631]

As with many other viewers, I'd like to see how the harbor freight copies hold up

[@PIANOPICTURES]

Please test the Knipex Raptor!

[@brandonm6052]

Looking into going into aviation airframe and the smooth jaw knipex are the required purchase

[@joshuaskirvin]

Industrial Electrical Maintenance Technician here. You absolutely cannot use Knipex like that. Placing an extension handle on the top and not holding the pliers together is NOT an accurate test of their abilities. I would be willing to bet $ they don't test them like that in the factory testing.

[@LupinxJigenTTV]

These pliers look great but ill always have my socket set ready

[@robertgarrett5009]

I've had a set of cobras in my tool set for more than 15 years and they are still biteing into bolts and rod.

[@tonymontana6734]

Now they’re $26 god damn it!

[@joakimkilarne8132]

Isn't the pipe in the way for the pliers wreng to close?

[@TCPUDPATM]

Knipex is expensive, but the quality has been pretty good so far in my experience.

[@-IE_it_yourself]

they also drive innovation. development costs money, that is why they cost a bit more.

[@aliancemd]

The “regular” Knipex pliers 100% require force from both sides, these don’t work like the Cobras.

[@suicidalkids9916]

That makes me wonder how a normal crescent wrench would perform.

[@fredygump5578]

I only use a crescent wrench when I need something I can hit with a hammer!

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

Me too, but not because I think they'd do well, just because the scientist in me desires completeness! lmao

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

@@fredygump5578 Uncle Bumblefuck (aka AvE) has shown us his Mining Wrench many many times in his channel. Or , as he has so aptly referred to it as: _"The Thumb-Detecting Nut-Fucker"_ 🤣😊 Up until then I'd never seen or heard of such a mongrel... But it's just a crescent wrench with a built in hammer head on the outside 'fixed' jaw. I imagine it sure beats trying to whack something accurately, compared to the typical curved jaw! (pun intended). (As far as nicknames go, my buddy had always referred to a crescent type wrench, as the "Adjustable Metric", beings as anyone and everyone has it when just starting out, and usually end up using it on Metric stuff since in N.Amer we tend to spend money on the SAE tools first... lol)

[@jameskyser9423]

The knipex plier wrenches are my daily go to. I do plant maintenance style work and the 5" is my "pocket wrench" I carry at all times. Extremely useful plus they have a ratcheting effect once you get use to them.

[@caseyt8447]

Same! I don't know how I did stuff before having these in my tool box... I end up selling a set to almost every maintenance guy at every plant I go to. I've got almost every size now in both. The mini cobra and the mini pliers are always in my back pocket though...

[@jameskyser9423]

@@caseyt8447 Yelp I have both set and they are unbeatable in my opinion. Those Germans know what they are doing lol

[@home541_]

@@jameskyser9423 I just bought the 7” and 10” I think are the sizes. They’re amazing for alignments

[@fredygump5578]

Do you have the 16" yet? No set is complete without it! (I service gas stations. I don't always use the 16", but sometimes it is very nice to have.)

[@DDrew67]

Same...that new slip joint pliers ifrom Knipex is really nice too...

[@AustinRoepke]

The note on the Knipex flat edge wrench possibly needing compression on both handles is accurate-and possibly why it shows lower ratings here. The jaw system is a four bar linkage, which only locks at one point and isn’t effective at clamp loading with force on one handle alone. The four bar linkage design is to allow for the flats remain parallel and reduces the probability of rounding off a bolt head, compared to the cobra pliers.

[@ionstorm66]

I have the opposite luck with Knipex pliers wrench. The only time they have slipped was when I stripped out the locking button. I have stood on the handles of my 7 inch pair, and im 275 pounds. They will literally put new flats on rounded nuts if you squeeze hard enough. I always clamp or zip tie the handles before using a cheater on them though.

[@MATTLEism]

That's my go-to trick for ALL the beans. Either the tool is gonna fail or that thing is coming loose haha

[@caseyt8447]

I use mine routinely to reshape/straighten sheet metal, Im right there with you. The only time any of my knipex tools slip is if I don't have them adjusted 100% right or if I had bad placement on the fastener for whatever reason.

[@ChrisZBr0wn]

I straight up broke my pliers wrench BY HAND. Still absolutely my favorite set of pliers and I think I'll replace them with the HF version (I know, blasphemy) but warranty is nice

[@matthewolson9704]

I've had a pair of 7" Cobra pliers for probably 10 years now. I found them in a local u pull yard, and just wiped out the jaw in em in the past year. Warrantied through one of my tool guys and we're back in business. Best free pliers I've ever found 😂🍻

[@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110]

100 percent my experience, including breaking the teeth out of a pair

[@boosted2.4_sky]

If they're not being squeezed the way a person would squeeze them ( and use them in service)..then the data is flawed... sorry That one handle is a marketing Ploy it's not the way that they're expected to be used... not really

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We did each both ways and used the highest value. Which we show.

[@svn5994]

It's far from a marketing ploy. Sorry you incorrectly use the tool.

[@grantsoderstrom5713]

You can't put it on the dino, but it would be really fun to test which is the stronger fan base Knipex or Milwaukee...

[@mattfleming86]

Some of us swing both ways. I have my Knipex love but my cobras are Milwaukee. Never got fervent brand loyalty. I like having multiple colors in my bags its easier to find stuff. Except for cordless.. Give me Makita or give me death.

[@rooster_saucer]

lol

[@veridico84]

@@mattfleming86 I'm the same, I have both and honestly enjoy both. Whichever I see first in my tool draw is the one I use.

[@bobalong131]

It’d be the Milwaukee guys for sure. I’m in a packout group and if those guys even see the colour yellow in the picture of a rainbow they have a full blown rabies like break down.

[@lightwalker222]

@@mattfleming86 I have a similar blind loyalty to Dewalt... well not really, but I got a few of them cheap and now I have so many batteries there's not much point in going to a different brand.

[@johncarrig2014]

I have several sizes of Knipex pliers wrench tools and have found that maximum gripping force is only achieved by correctly adjusting the jaw opening. The sliding jaw should be adjusted so that the handles are close together when the jaws are gripping the workpiece. If the handles are too far apart, the cam part of the sliding jaw is much more easily deflected away from the workpiece. Much more clamping force is developed with less effort at the handles when adjusted properly.

[@atmacm]

The pliers wrench work off the handles creating a 10X increase in jaw clamp force based off the cam design. Since you’re not squeezing the handles this is affecting the teeth not grabbing. Also, on the cobras on many occasions you didn’t apply the fastener correctly in the pliers, which causes them to slip. Like at 8:37. You had the flat on the flat of the jaw and not in the V notch.

[@cdsdesigns8035]

It also looks like they didn’t check for metal shavings stuck in the teeth. Its happened numerous times working on cheap fasteners where the coating will scrape off and get stuck in the teeth causing them to slip more. Similar to when you use a blade to cut aluminum and they start to bond. I don’t think it will make an astronomical difference, but I do think they could have got better results.

[@Justin-C]

Yep. This Pliers Wrench testing was the handgun equivalent of "limp-wristing" - i.e., inducing a failure in the device by not following proper usage guidelines.

[@geektarded]

I’ll wait until project farm does a real test.

[@dimitrisd.9173]

Very well said.

[@eoinfrankel6306]

He does squeeze the handles. He explicitly mentions it.

[@billymanilli]

I absolutely LOVE, and regularly depend on, knipex pliers. The way the design "bites" harder as you push (kinda like a pipe wrench) is just awesome. You could literally break head bolts loose with a nice new pair of the "cobra" style ones!

[@daftpanda6533]

I use them at work, doing assembly. While I could tell just by looking at them they are miles better than the traditional Channel lock pliers, I found it interesting they are also better than average flare nut wrenches.

[@who_cares848]

Im a plumber and thats exactly why i love the cobras. Theyre like a pipe wrench that fits in your pocket. Also they open up way wider than other pump pliers.

[@cgg6450]

It’s a lot easier just using a regular ratchet and socket when working with bolts if you can’t get one loose then just use a breaker bar a breaker bar is far more affective than any plier whenever it comes to breaking loose a bolt.

[@tonymontana6734]

Would you mind spanding $26 for a backup set

[@tonymontana6734]

@@cgg6450 yeah right

[@Jay_Ira]

You guys are quickly becoming the industry testing standard for various tools we didn't know how to compare. I love this addition to the channel. Now we might as well test the other knock off pliers wrenches like Capri and Icon. I do like that Capri has a thick grip but my gripe is they're a knock off that is not that much cheaper than a Knipex. They have no history of well made pliers like Knipex so for a knock off brand you'd hope they would be significantly cheaper. It would be well worth finding out through your testing if they're worth it.

[@m1stertim]

have you never watched project farm?

[@Jay_Ira]

@@m1stertim nope never, I'm only a subscriber to PF for several years.

[@robertfrate9738]

Hi, project farm tod just did a video on pliers,

[@summitlt]

Between this and PJ you don't need anything else

[@Wk-is8eh]

@@m1stertim TTC, Project Farm, and Ave are my go to channels for tool reviews.

[@Frank-pv1hp]

I'd like to see a comparison of open end wrenches. I sprang for the the Snap-On flank drive plus many years ago and I still love them. They have saved my bacon (and a couple of other guys at the shop) quite a few times over the years.

[@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110]

I love my wrightgrip for the same reason as the flank drive plus, sk X frames as well. I use run of the mill SK superchrome most of the time, if I feel it may slip I grab the wrightgrips. The wright wrenches have the biting feature, but when it's not needed they fit a little tight and aren't as smooth because of it.

[@AtomicReverend]

@@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110 i was going to mention wright wrenches they work amazingly for a mid level price tool, my only complaint is they almost always mess up the finish, I would never use them on something like a Harley-Davidson for example.

[@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110]

@@AtomicReverend yes, but so do Flank drive plus, and other designs with anti slip like that. The cheap gearwrench sets that have it don't as bad, but they are far lower quality and don't work nearly as well as thw snap off or wright versions. The SK X frames work fantastic as well, but they have more limited use. I like whatever tool works best, if it's $5 ot $500 regardless of brand lol. Not a lot of snap off that justifies the price, but their flare nut wrenches are the best of the 10 or more brands I have owned, and any brand I have used that I remember. There are other specialty ones that are as strong or stronger, but they aren't for the same applications, and they limit access which I find to be 1/2 the battle on most line/flare fittings I mess with.

[@tjboylan20]

I would love a TTC hand ratchet test. There’s tons of other channels that have done it but they’re not as accurate as this channel. This channel and Project Farm are the most professional channels and I trust them the most. Love the videos guys keep it up!

[@toyotatundra0455]

You are right on. TTC and Project Farm are the most honest, professional and unbiased tool review in KZbin. TTC should do a test of the Amazon cordless ratchet.

[@Spazin0ut]

As a semi trailer mechanic knipex pliers wrench are the best hands down. I can get things loose with them better than I can with a good set of adjustable wrenches.

[@shallmaneser]

As far as I understand, for the Knipex plier-wrench, you should start with a perfect fit against the nut and then squeeze??? (not squeezing in order to make it a perfect fit)!!!

[@99andrianmonk]

I've used Knipex Cobra 10" pliers for since they were released and could not be happier. They just plain work. I've tried several other brands but haven't found anything better. I've recently purchased the smaller version for tight spaces.

[@DrFiero]

As a licensed mechanic (now non practising!) I can tell you - those particular vice grips (not the 'usual' ones!) have SAVED many a rusty nut on an inverted flare brake line for me. The ability to clamp down tight, then be able to wiggle back and forth (try that with pliers) until they break free is incredible. I must have got one of the first sets when they came out, as I think I've been using them for near 20 years now.

[@lohikarhu734]

you made me realize that the Cobra pliers in my "road" tool kit are 22 years old!

[@DrFiero]

@@lohikarhu734 - If they’re not broken, don’t fix ‘em!

[@theomnipresent1]

I'd like to see channellock's parrot nosed 'nut buster' model 410 pliers compared.

[@MichaelLeger-o1h]

I started as a diesel mechanic a little over 30 years ago and the 410 and 414 pliers were the predecessor to all these pliers we have now. They were life savers for me!

[@kraftzion]

The knipex pliers wrench is almost tailor made for HVAC. We deal with large brass flare nuts and caps all the time. They are also good for bending sheet metal. I have used them for 15 years now. My opininion is that the 10 inch is the sweet spot. I believe that something about the geometry lets you apply more pressure with the jaws when you squeeze the handles, even more than the 12 inch size.

[@iceesrule75]

Are they good for gas pipe?

[@tamas9402]

@@iceesrule75 Bit late sorry but yeah they are, I've done gas lines with this style of pliers both for wrenching and backwrenching

[@casemodder89]

in some tests it seemed like the cheaterpipe pushed the lower grip open helping to slip/release on the nut. i use the 12" wrench pliers and the 10" parrot pliers for HVAC flaring stuff. works exeptional well ! never had one of these slip on other usages like water pumps and stuff. (but i do keep some tention on the unloaded grip aswell)

[@Aragorn450]

Yeah, especially with the 5" Knipex pliers.

[@tripplewhipper]

Yeah its a shame he didn't learn to use the tool before doing the test. If a 255 lb guy can hang off of them then there's clearly and issue when they're slipping off constantly under his use

[@cheatinggravity173]

Yeah I saw that too..

[@Gazoogleheimer1]

As an avid user of each and every size of pliers wrench for work and play, I don't think they were adjusted quite right. The cheater was also choking up on the one handle and pushing the two handles apart from each other. I can generally extract ludicrous beans from mine, especially on challenging or rusty fasteners.

[@DarylOster]

I constantly carry a knipex pliers wrench in my pocket, and to develop max torque they MUST BE SQUEEZED HARD. IMO the test is not valid.

[@kennethebel7726]

You had the wrong position selected for the pliers wrench. It may not seem like it would make a big difference, but because of the cam, they work best when almost closed. This makes it so that the jaw has to overcome the cam. This effect doesnt work perfectly for every size, so you have to find the right pliers for every bolt. I bought them when my mac guy used them to loosen the RBRT display bolt that someone had overtightened. He put all of his weight on a 90% rounded bolt, and it removed it.

[@Bearcats737]

i can honestly say the knipex are some of the best hand tools ive ever used. Now i carry a 7 1/4pliers wrench and the 7 1/4 cobra as a side carry every day

[@femto505]

I never understand why people like pliers for removing fasterners. I don't run into issues with with open end wrenches.

[@Bearcats737]

@@femto505 Its not like a normal piers, its more like an adjustable wrench that doesn't slip. for me its handy to always have the right size wrench on me because I'm not always right next to my tools. it absolutely doesn't replace a normal wrench, but a good 95% of the time its all you need

[@DaltonJ995]

@@femto505 depends if you have a tool box next to you or are making a field repair open end is the way to go if you have them with you but if your going somewhere that you don't want to carry a whole wrench set adjustable pliers are the way to go because we all know adjustable cresent wrenches suck donkey dong.

[@MindBlowerWTF]

@@femto505 I use them for the most random things, but rarely just removing most regular bolts or nuts. Someone moved the wrench that should lay on top of mig welder to remove the bottle? Grab the pliers. Knob of a valve fell off in the shitter? Grab the pliers. Boening part fell off and is hot? Grab the pliers.

[@orijimi]

I was hoping for a comparison between pliers wrenches and adjustable wrenches. And squeezing pliers wrenches during use has always been a necessity to use them correctly. Gedore's design makes that especially obvious.

[@DMSparky]

I know with the Cobras only the teeth have the highest level of harness, Knipex claims 61HRC. I’m a professional tradesman and usually not super biased between brands of tools, other than I think you usually get what you pay for. The $5 dollar pair of side cutters rarely out performs the $50 pair. I don’t really care one brand or another as long as the tool lasts along time and is comfortable to use, but I will say I think the only tool I have an extremely strong bias towards is the Knipex Cobras, you have an apples to oranges comparison here, test them against their real competitors standard channellock pliers not just in terms of maximum strength but also comfort, grip strength and tooth longevity. I also think just pressing on the top handle is sort of a gimmick they are way stronger when pressure is applied to both handles no matter how they advertise. Not a Knipex fanboy I just think the Cobras are an excellent design for a water pump plier.

[@marcowens3522]

What $5 pair of cutters out perform a $50 set? I'm calling bs on that period I use nothing but knipex and snap on cutters ain't no $5 nothing beating them period!

[@Rudy97]

Knipex tools cost so much because they wear very slow. Use them daily for years and can't tell the difference between old and new.

[@svn5994]

There is no such thing as a $5 side cutter outperforming a $50 cutter.

[@DMSparky]

@@svn5994 whoops typo on my part! You’re right!

[@DMSparky]

@@marcowens3522 Agree completely, sorry it was a typo!

[@chriss2295]

You have to have a set of Knipex…and the cheaper knockoffs to lend out.

[@bobthebuilder6315]

You need to test Channellock 410 and 414 they work a lot like the cobra's.

[@jodyoneal9252]

Parrot Jaw Pliers are great, even on round stuff.

[@Foxholeatheist]

It would be very neat to see the Wera Joker 6004 self-setting spanners in this kind of comparison.

[@NebulaNeoca]

came here for this

[@robertfrate9738]

Hi, I’m very happy to see you expand with your testing, outstanding quality video ty so much,

[@LIKEcommentANDsubscribe]

I want Project Farm to compare the Amazon Cobra copies to the real deal. I'm sure he could come up with some way to wear the two brands down and show how much of a difference the soft jaw makes over time.

[@zorinho20]

Did you suggest that to Todd?

[@jboy856]

they don’t hold up nearly as well have used both pairs as im a plumber cobras last as long as 3 years before noticeable wear, the knock offs lasted about 6 months before the teeth stopped biting..

[@LIKEcommentANDsubscribe]

@@jboy856 diesel mechanic here. That goes for their whole line. There isn't a single name brand out there that makes pliers and cutters as good as knipex. Their new auto adjusting cobras are unparalleled and they need to move the auto adjusting mechanism to the rest of their pliers. Ill buy them all.

[@uniquehorn1480]

No thanks, I'll buy once and cry once...it's Knipex for me.

[@-IE_it_yourself]

save 20bucks on a tool and fuck up a 50buck fitting.

[@Spazin0ut]

Omg yes the video I needed and didn’t even know it!

[@scottylawson9472]

Knipex pliers wrench works best when adjusted to where the handles are closest together but not touching. Surely you see how the pivot works and that if the little tab interlocking the lower jaw is pointed towards the jaws the less it will want to push back?

[@midnitetoker420]

I appreciate the direction this channel is heading! Thanks for the great content!

[@crazykenkid]

very cool! I use the cobra all day long and I agree with you on the Pliers I run into slippage often! For those raptors if you cut off 2" of the handle you will magically have a 7" ":) well done keep up the great tool reviews!

[@ItsAWhiteMan]

Another good type of pliers wrench is the Snap On PWZ0, PWZ1, or PWZ2. These are badass and great for alignments such as inner tie rods or jam nuts here in the rust belt.

[@lexel90]

but aren´t these not just pipe wrenches with the swedish pattern? so comparable to Knipex 83 10 015 or Gedore "Eck-Schwede" and it´s most likely a relabeled BAHCO Ergo pipe wrench but the labeling makes sense, since BAHCO belongs to Snap-On, is swedish and came up with the pipe wrench and the adjustable wrench in 1890 or so o.0

[@colbycarnes5786]

I’d like to see an adjustable wrench in the mix too

[@MattLitkeRacing]

Look up round coupling nuts. That might be a good way to test grip of pliers on round shapes. Without having to redesign your tester

[@Joethetoolguy]

Can I get some tests for my Wera Joker guys?

[@puddytat62]

Yes I am guessing those amazon basics will be gone in a matter of minutes. To put this in perspective you have to ask the value proposition for the average user ...not a pro mechanic...which I am assuming very few watchers are. Here in Canada the Knipex cobras are $57 for the 12 inch and $17 for the Amazon Basics. That's the single 12 inch as no set is available. So is the Knipex 3 times better? well it appears not. If you work on cars etc every day then why not go for it. If you take your tools to a job site you wanna make sure your expensive tools don't walk away and loosing an amazon basics is no biggie. So is TTC now becoming a Project Farm ? Pretty sure Todd did some tests on pliers awhile back and the Channel locks did pretty well and made in USA ... Klein are good as well. Not sure there is a matching USA made Cobra .

[@jerryjackson7787]

I’m glad you confirmed that the pliers wrench needs to have both handles squeezed together in order to avoid slipping. I’ve found the same thing when using the pliers wrenches… which is why I still use old-fashioned adjustable wrenches for plumbing if I’m in a tight spot and can’t squeeze both handles on the pliers wrench.

[@victoryfirst2878]

I am just amazed that the wrench pliers knipex are only middle of the road 45 hardness of the jaws. I thought that they would be at least middle fifties hardness. Does not really make sense. The old tools had hardness of high fifties. They just lived forever it seems. The good old days.

[@-IE_it_yourself]

the teeth are surface hardened to 61HRC

[@MrDdaland]

One "trick" I've used to maintain tension on both handles in a situation where I can't grip both is to place a number a appropriate sized rubber bands- keeps a constant force and easy to adjust up or down just by adding/removing

[@joesmith7377]

Can you test 6 and 12 point box end wrenches? Also, I would like to see Milwaukee wrenches in your tests. Thank you!

[@brianmoore1164]

Cool test and all data is good data, but I think the natural test is a test of various pliers wrench style vs the Cresant wrench style of adjustable wrench. Yes, I am a Knipex fan and have multiple sizes of several of their tools, but I have yet to put a cheater pipe on any of them. I'm just not sure that represents an actual use case.

[@jetjazz05]

The Amazon and HF ripoff Knipex thing is blowing my mind, although it really bums me out to consider potential repercussions. I love Knipex tools because of their fit and finish, but if HF and Amazon are going to make the same product and literally copy it for 1/4 the cost it'll force Knipex to start making their tools in China or Taiwan as well. You can tell me I'm wrong, but then I'll show you Matco, Snapon, Channelock... oh you know, basically 80% of tool companies who had to make Chinese tools to stay competitive.

[@dubi127]

Still would like to see how raptors stack up, even if it is a longer tool

[@JamieDonovanD]

Sorry if this was already somewhere, but is the Knipex cobra designed for metric or imperial nut sizing? And the nut was same type? Considering the Knipex is a German (metric) but designed for plumbing (imperial).

[@bradanselment]

I bought the amazons and they worked well.. Until the butter soft jaws began to lose that sharp bite, then they were just adjustable nut rounders (junk). I'll stick with my knipex thanks

[@loktom4068]

I hated to use pliers for wrench work. We all knew that nut 🔩 and bolt may sees its last usage.

[@theondebray]

Those Gearwrench pliers have too much back leverage to be useful. Its Bahco for me, still use my 20+ year old pliers, still almost as good as new after much use & abuse.

[@Seveneleven44]

Knipex makes the best pliers on planet earth, nothing compares. I wasted so much time and money trying to find a decent set of pliers that appeased my taste. I’m glad I never, ever have to use or look at that ugly channel lock blue ever again as well.

[@risingawareness13]

It's easier to keep the knipex pliers wrench from opening up if you adjust them so the handles are closer together when using them. Try again.

[@IGrocker]

I have the 10” Knipex Cobra pliers, although they’re Mac branded. Easily my favorite set of pliers and I use them daily!

[@andyfields3248]

Your jack handle is interfering with the clamping force of the pliers wrench, the end of the pipe is contacting the lower handle stopping the handles from closing further . . .

[@Sphyxx]

I don't get the pronunciation with Knipex they say it Knipex but then say its Kuh-Nip-X just say it how it's written

[@james10739]

Ya the only real affordable copy of the pliers wrench is by Irwin I mean the icon look the same but are only slightly cheaper

[@D_J_R_S]

You have to squeeze the Pliers-Wrench.

[@andrewfidel2220]

Looks like you cleaned Amazon out of the Cobra clones, not even coming up as an option now =)

[@experienceprecision5406]

Absolutely love mine. And folks that shiny coating is not a coating is the steel and it stays looking that good

[@michaeltristan]

@2:20 You were pushing the knipex pliers open with your jack handle. Try not pushing the pipe to the hilt.

[@agentmango]

Are you familiar with the Swagelok (aka compression fitting) ratcheting wrench? The wrench for 1/4" tube fittings fits a 1/2" hex. I have a few of these wrenches, they seem robust.

[@agentmango]

Look up Swagelok # MS-RW-400

[@pakiw2]

As plumber, I use rothenberger 1" pipe wrench and knipex cobra 300, makes perfect pair for wrenching steel and cast iron. Round things is their case. They wear out in a year from day to day use. But it is a case when you're okay to destroy look of things. Otherwise knipex flat jaws. It's very rare when I use standard wrenches, occasionally, when something is gona be visible afterwards and cannot be chewed by teeth of cobra or pipe wrench. Usually all pipe fittings are weird size, somewhere in between sizes 22.5 mm or 23mm, or 24 as example. Often casting of fittings is very rough and nothing fits except pipe wrenches.

[@agoogleuser1594]

It looked like some of them could have gone further on a particular run if they didn't need to be repositioned. Could you rig up something so the pliers and nut are stationary and you turn a bolt? Also would there be any value in seeing if they can remove a nut torqued to a certain value?

[@columbo1966]

I thought the same thing about the repositioning