Torture Test! Sig Legion P226 vs Rex Zero 1

[@Arbitrageur_]

Arex: I can fire in any environment. SIG: I'm allergic to tap water.

[@chzzyg2698]

No doubt, this vid. single-handedly put Arex on the map

[@anthonyjohnson9106]

Facts

[@krishankins1306]

I hadn't seen or heard of Arex firearms until about a year or so ago. Saw a 1S and loved the look so I bought one. Very well made and the weight is just right. This video makes me glad I made that purchase. I believe he has another video where he went to their mfr facility in Slovenia. I'm definitely a fan of the firearms now. To get this level of quality at this price range is not that common anymore. SIG is too caught up in making a dollar these days and their quality is suffering. I have a couple SIG handguns and the feel of the 1S seems a little better for me.

[@2S1L3NT]

Legit. I ordered one immediately after watching this. Still love it!

[@american236]

Exactly

[@helsindemisquisfolson1461]

It hella did can't believe Yankee marshal tried to diss it he a FN for that.

[@JaingSkirata]

"That sand gets everywhere guys".... Anakin flashbacks.

[@classicgunstoday1972]

LOL! Anikan whining that scripted line about sand was the first thing I thought of when he said that.

[@lukematney7062]

The Yankee Marshall was so salty after this video, it's great.

[@richki.24]

Yankee Marshall is a Commie .....

[@paulrietveld9837]

Yankee Marshall is one of those guys that if you watch him enough and compare him to people like MAC, you realize he has no idea what he's talking about.

[@Humberto4790]

Lmao was he making excuses?

[@mslaird1]

I carried a standard P226 and P220 when I was in law enforcement. I am curious to know if the Legion line has tighter tolerances and less slop than a standard production line gun. I have put thousands of rounds through Sig pistols in all weather conditions and I have not experienced a malfunction of any type. However, I did not submerge my pistols in water, sand, dirt and mud and torture test them. This Arex has me rather intrigued and I am considering getting one just to take a look at it in depth for myself. Great job to MAC for the videos, definitely food for thought, so to speak. Semper Fi!

[@BossPredatorAcoustics]

This was my thought as well Matt. The Legion seems to be a very refined pistol with incredible attention to detail and a masterful trigger job. I suspect that it does have tighter tolerances than a standard P226, which one would perhaps expect and hope for in their top of the line platform. However, perhaps perfection/refinement comes at a cost. May be one of the reasons that the AK47 and SKS are such beasts/performers when it comes to reliability in the field under brutal conditions, whereas an AR15 tends to be more finicky when field conditions get sloppy. Most fellas aren't going to run their weapons under these conditions, however, in a SHTF situation, I think these kinds of tests have merit for perhaps getting a good idea of what one might expect from their firearm of choice under the most challenging circumstances. Be interesting to see how a run of the mill P226 would handle this test. Enjoyed the video.

[@ferrabras]

​@@BossPredatorAcoustics I agreed. Bench instruments are great and precise, but you can't take them to the field. The question is the precision and repeatablility of the shot. We need to know if Sig Elite is trading reliability to precision or not. Great video.

[@hrldp4394]

Law enforcement sig fan here too. I am actually issued with a sig sp2022 (little bro of the 226 that i like too) some guy at the service had to replace it after rescue a civilian who fall into la seine in Paris. But our "brown water" police use the same p2022 as well So i guess it's not like water. fun fact: the sp2022 was built for France and to be the navy seal pistol befor the 226

[@chrisdufor-pulliam4901]

I suspect those tight tollerances in a high quality, metal gun means that it needs a break in period to be reliable AND HAVE A MUCH LONGER SERVICE LIFE. So i think the 2 guns have different longevity. That matters. A gun easy to shoot out the box is great...if you dont shoot a lot, dont understand cleaning, dont plan on passing it down to your kids. It worked. Thats ok. Thats what budget owners care about and thats ok too. But if you care about longterm use and reliability then i still wouldnt rule out the Sig. I bet that over time with consistant, old school cleaning the Sig could sing like a bird. Its often not the gun, its the shooter and the relatiinship that they build together over time. Theyre probably equally great but in different uses/maintenave. That Rex is likely to die at the same high round count that the Sig starts to work flawlessly.

[@sergior.carreno5568]

Same as a great war era 1911.​@@BossPredatorAcoustics

[@williamparks1503]

I bought mine (Compact model in fde) brand new not long ago for $495. I took it to the range and everyone who laid eyes on it said it was the best looking pistol they'd ever seen. The double action trigger pull is heavy, yet smooth and short. Very manageable recoil and an accurate shooter. I love it!

[@tardogavin6735]

The testing was excellent. Please continue this methodology. Thanks

[@Puncho2010]

This video sold a large number of Zero 1's for Arex. I'm curious if you plan on performing the same test for the new Zero 2? Would love to see if it holds the same awesome performance!

[@anarchyandempires5452]

I want to see the entire line of ARex weapons, I'm quite interested in some of the more premium stuff they have.

[@Liberty4Ever]

I'm not a big fan of the general design of these firearms as it seems a bit dated to me. I like modern practical firearms, but this video convinced me to get a Rex Zero 1 and it's awesome. It's a safe queen, but still awesome. I later bought a Rex Delta (more my style, from the company that made the Zero 1), and now you're telling me there is a Rex Zero 2? Dammit!

[@falconator3419]

I’ll be honest, this video is one of the reasons why I just bought an Arex.

[@kenlandon7803]

Same here. Tim costing me more money

[@strikingdistance2898]

This video is also the reason l brought the Arex Zero , its corvid time and firearms cost so much , and yet l was able to find this firearm used in excellent condition, with two seventeen round magazine's in its original box for five hundred l quickly grabbed it.

[@2S1L3NT]

Haha, nice! I ordered mine after watching the video too. FDE Tactical version. Threw an Optic on there, and it's a Gem

[@thomsoncarter3121]

How is it holding up?

[@GBGuns]

Ever since I first tried the Rex Zero 1 at SHOT show I've wanted to see a comparison like this. Thank you!

[@Drew57720]

Rex zero vs sig Sig: you Rex zero: the guy she tells you not to worry about

[@danieljohnson3189]

Lmaooooo

[@2S1L3NT]

Immediately after the video: For Sale - Sig 226 Legion - like new, low round count, cleaned, oiled & ready to go!

[@100thetrap]

Wouldn't pay 200$ after this I'm going with arex

[@boogityboo1467]

Yeah but if you buy a RexZero are you given a collectors coin and admitted into a super secret club??

[@matejfele9971]

No, but that's one of the clubs I'm not interested in belonging to.

[@roosterboy7357]

Nope, you sure ain’t. That’s why you gotta getca a sig

[@mrray13741]

Not a secret if everyone knows

[@magoid]

You have to know the secret handshake.

[@johnwurfel2862]

My legion paint j(pvd?) Comes off like a bad nail job.

[@AkOperatorsUnion]

Awesome video.

[@sleopardo89]

In Soviet KZbin, Rob Likes you!

[@rampant-tm5ry]

hey get back to testing the PSA ak right now Mr! you dont have time to be on you tube! then you have to rip into the NPAP remember! im disappointed in you Rob :)

[@alanmendezca]

love your channel ak dude

[@anthonykerrill4137]

I agree great channel man!

[@MrVOxMOx]

Man, is it possible that Sig has been coasting by on its rep as a tier one handgun supplier?

[@williespencer5966]

Thank you for the testing. I feel really confident about my purchase of the rex pistol. I actually own both weapons and was surprised at the results of the testing. None the less, still very happy with both purchases.

[@burnsyville]

I shot the Rex on a demo from their rep and I noticed it was a tighter fitting then that of the sig. I am amazed that it performed this well in your test. Awesome video.

[@SchwanRutoza]

The Sig is for dry, air conditioned, clean rooms only

[@tonberryhugs6435]

P226 was used by SEALs.

[@cwatson42785]

@@tonberryhugs6435 "Was" after seeing this I don't see how. A damn grain of sand will fuck your day up big time.

[@joncon4177]

Make sure you only use certain brands of ammo too.

[@LibertyPrime1982]

Dayum! Got em! 🤣

[@kykrazy6050]

@Daniel Stefanov No no no no....the nice , "shiny" piece is the one they used...and STILL DO.

[@trkarst82]

This video is the sole reason I bought a Rex Zero 1S as my primary pistol.

[@Customsouthernarms]

the Sig Cult just had an aneurysm... lol

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Their heads are exploding in their echo chambers, I mean on the Sig forums.

[@Customsouthernarms]

+Military Arms Channel lmao!.... Thanks for the review. Can't wait to see other pistols go through it.

[@nevets916]

I'm a Sig guy won't lie but right now I just analyze what I saw switched to my M&P and moved on.

[@qj877]

+Military Arms Channel Think you could test a P320 vs Glock? Or Glock vs M&P vs XD?

[@billbratton7468]

that i would love to see

[@slimdog1776]

This was a really excellent test. I’m also shocked at how poorly the Sig performed here and how well the Rex Zero did. I own a Legion 229 and have always wanted to see how it might perform in extreme environments, I guess I now know....

[@andresc5915]

It depends… tolerances could be a factor among other things.

[@braxtonmiller79]

I bought the Arex Rex Zero 1 in FDE because of this video. And I Absolutely love it !!!!!!! I shoot it all the time and I have not had ANY FTF--FTE--OR ANYTHING!!!!! I sold my XD Sub compact to my dad because I no longer needed it. This is my bed side gun and my carry every day gun. AGAIN THIS IS THE BEST PISTOL I HAVE EVER OWNED. AND I HAVE OWNED ALOT OF PISTOLS. I just bought my wife the compact version of the Arex. She absolutely loves it also. Thx so much for making these awesome videos

[@tonyviera8107]

I just ordered one, can't wait

[@External2737]

Dang California roster. :(

[@woodchuckcider1870]

round count?

[@adnan9520]

Braxton Miller u just had a gungasm!

[@shinoasada2216]

I am from Slovenia and I appreciate that you like Slovenian firearm.

[@robkoons1891]

I want to thank Tim for these tests! Because of these videos I own a Arex zero 1 tactical and I love it!

[@gregkerr725]

I've always found high quality in firearms from that part of Europe, whether Czech, Croatian and now Slovenian. But we tend to be a bit prejudicial in regards where firearms come from. I remember trying to sell Croatian HS2000 pistols for 200 bucks to gun retailers and did not do well, then the gun disappeared for a year or so and next thing you know we were selling the Springfield XD pistols like hot cakes.............of course it was the HS2000 with Springfield's name stamped on it..........go figure!

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

haha i remember the same thing...amazing huh?One of my very first handguns was a Makarov PM..just try and break that sucker or make it jam up.Had a German mfg PPK at the same time, and while it was reliable, it was nothing like the Makarov there.

[@qj877]

I'd say it's more about marketing and having a reputable name than which country it came from. HS Produkt obviously doesn't have the marketing ability in the US that Springfield does. Hardly anyone would know about an HS 2000 if not for Springfield. And HS doesn't have an established history like SA.

[@qj877]

+Brian Penn As far as I'm concerned Germany and Italy make the best guns in Europe by far. You can keep the rest. Cars too for that matter. I like the XD. But don't know what the rest of those countries are known for making. I'm guessing AKs because the only ARs worth buying are "Murican" made.

[@bryanm435]

+DemocracyOfHypocrisy careful not to offend the No-rinkk-O fanatics on here. And to one of the previous posters above, I'm holding a Colt Combat Unit...lol and I promise you it is not garbage.

[@qj877]

+Brian Penn CZ is the only thing on your list that matches those companies. Sorry.

[@sethlasher4173]

As a member of the sig cult I'm hanging my head... props to the rex

[@244thMeekrob]

This has to be one of the few times I've seen a Sig function other than flawlessly, I've had a handfull of Sigs and have fired thousands of rounds and have never seen anything like this. However, I'm a part of the West German Gang, no NH stamps on my firearms.

[@Tony.795]

@@244thMeekrob My P228 sadly missed the W. by three years.

[@ac6047]

Noooooooo! I just bought a Legion! This is the second time this happen H&K VP9 and Legion, maybe I should buy a Highpoint.

[@Themayseffect]

you plan on dunking your sig into a vat of dirt and dust?

[@ericm1402]

Yes

[@RobertSmith-le8wp]

The test isn't complete until you pitch a hissy fit and throw the gun at a metal target

[@bryanm435]

Dammmmmmmmmmmn!!!! Haha I'm laughin so hard tho..surely your not alluding to the...the...VP9 vid???!!!!?!!?!??!?....😳....I think MAC wants to bury that nightmare...unlike ZQI...HK doesn't do freebie's, favorites, or favors...for anyone. Most people won't even know what we are talking about 😂

[@tuck234]

Oh I know what you're talking about. lol I had a VP9, but from my experience mines was a little different in it's finish compared to a friend's VP9. His VP9 had a good coating on it(almost looked like one whole carved piece of metal) and mine had a light coating that I could slightly see the milling marks(straight horizontal lines) on it. I guess mine being a sort of early batch was the reason, maybe. Both of our guns were quite reliable, had only 1350 rounds through mine so I can't say for sure. Tim working on doing another test with the VP9 is definitely good and I guess it'll make amends to us all, well mostly to those who had a gotten a bad taste in their mouth from it. When I saw the test, I just shrugged since I know I'll never really be that hard on my gun, especially being OCD with most of my stuff. lol

[@tommysalami5016]

I just took possession of my new Rex Zero 1. Your video sold me on this mysterious gun. Thanks MAC.

[@acegunner7025]

hows is your rex zero doing have you shot it much?

[@tommysalami5016]

@@acegunner7025 Thanks for asking. I've put 2,500 through it with absolutely no issues. Put night sights on it and looks good. The perfect full size pistol for EDC. I trust this pistol to get the job done it was made for.

[@acegunner7025]

@@tommysalami5016 nice im about to pull the trigger and buy a rex zero 1T want a sig like gun with out that 1k price tag that can ues rmr or holosun407 thanks for the fast reply

[@67claudius]

Congratulations to the Slovenians!

[@tosmjspakonc]

Thank you, we gave you 2 things you like; guns and first lady (although her accent is horrific :D )

[@tosmjspakonc]

AirsoftSlo haha, res je...po vseh teh letih tam...jao, jebiga, vse Slovenke so ji fouš, vseeno :D

[@tosmjspakonc]

AirsoftSlo ej...si kaj slišal za Arex Alpha? Kdaj pride ven? :)

[@tosmjspakonc]

AirsoftSlo aja, jaz pa sem aktivno v klubu, sem mislil da ves vec...just asking :))

[@tosmjspakonc]

AirsoftSlo društvo ostrostrelcev Ljubljana :)

[@donovannotmyname7306]

P226: I'm so fucking reliable, better than anything! Rex Zero-1: Ha! That's cute!

[@Annettesfirearmchannel]

Donovan notmyname the Rex zero is just a new vision of the cz 999

[@snaleksic5248]

No its not, CZ999 iz made in Serbia Rex is Slovenian made.

[@shinoasada2216]

Zero 1S is better than Sig P226.

[@jac1207]

@Spuzva Rahil kind of says something about sig, the more expensive option, when another manufacturer has to step up and fix their mistakes at a much lower priced sticker.

[@4atlanta4]

Donovan notmyname who really knows the functionality of the sig before hand and if this guy is a sig hater who’s main purpose is to trash the sig. I own a sig but I’m interested in buying a arex (which is why I’m here) and will be shooting the arex to try it out and if I like it I’ll buy it. But I have to say I love the sig but hate the price, but it’s still a great firearm in my opinion.

[@JayJay3Fifty7]

That's not Thunder, that's Sig Sauer firearms, expressing their discontent with your review.

[@Fallout777]

I'm a Glock guy that will be buying The Rex Zero.

[@andrewkatkaveck7584]

I'm a sig p229 legion guy who still will laugh at that piece of shit looking copy cat weapon great it worked better on a torture test what about the gun being clean under normal conditions still shooting 15k rounds later?

[@tibbyksu]

@@andrewkatkaveck7584 Spoiler: the Rex still shoots as good or better for less than half the price you name brand fanboy.

[@meangreen320]

Mad Marc same

[@EBKABK773]

Glock is even better then sig piece of shit sigs

[@drummerchaniking7026]

@@andrewkatkaveck7584 FYI he did 1000 rounds in 14 minutes with 0 hickups and the barrel is warrantied for 30k rounds. The BARREL has a 30k round service life unlike your SIG that has a 10k service, USUALLY, at best. Quit dry humping SIG when Arex makes a clearly better product. ALSO watch MAC's video touring Arex's factory. EXTREMELY nice manufacturing facility.

[@dougk.5501]

what about running 5k rounds through each? which will stand up to standard practices?

[@wimplo22]

I like this test format much better than the previous way. it's far more repeatable and a good comparison of the two platforms.

[@tylerbuchholz3234]

Even from the very beginning the Sig looked to have a weak ejection pattern or it looked like to me. I've never shot a Sig so I don't know if that is normal or not, but the Rex was throwing brass with more authority from the beginning before you ever introduced any "dirt" to the Sig. If possible have a dedicated camera for a split screen comparison on future tests so there can be nobody saying you moved the camera for a better angle, etc. Just an idea. Thanks for all the free content for us.

[@rusticspoon6103]

I have to agree with your first comment.

[@coyotevigilant]

I agree the ejection pattern was weak from the first rounds. Something is not right. My 4 yr old P226 Tacops has way better ejection and flings them far and in a neat pile.

[@justinwallace9045]

My old P226 throws them all over. "supposedly" the legion are more "match grade" pistols with tighter tolerances. I wonder if that's what caused the issues or if that's just Sig trying to justify $1400 for a pistol.

[@Caeser2001]

+Caboose 302 that was my guess, a much tighter tolerances compared to a normal Sig

[@StrawHatLaw13]

well said

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Tim/MAC, you probably don't know but I am blind. I mention this only to say that despite this, i find most all of your videos perfectly enjoyable as you comment on most everything you do or that happens to/with the firearms. So please keep this habbit up and thank you for doing it. I will add, the results do not surprise me much. East Euro guns are made mostly for reliability and durability, so loose tolerances and larger/more robust parts. SIG on the otherhand has made the P226L mostly for accuracy, ergonomics, and honestly just to look cool. Doesn't make it a bad gun, but one of these is a target pistol while the other is a combat gun. cheers,

[@Militaryarmschannel]

+Ozark Bear Arms Hey brother, I love your videos. Your knowledge on firearms is incredible. Thank you for the commentary on and for following the channel.

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

Thank you, honestly i am a bit surprised you recognized me but am gratified you do. I am what happens when a nerd turns into a history teacher, and then gets into firearms. Funny thing is now I don't teach and run a gunstore fulltime....I like this job more hehe. Not sure what it would be, but if I can ever help you out in any way, consider it done as partial payback for all you've done for our community. cheers,

[@wcstrawberryfields8011]

@@ozarkbeararms8840 Mishaco, Legend!

[@tamerzoabi8731]

You guys are the best channel on KZbin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@thorsteinwolfgangson2178]

MAC you have to feed your magazine loader, heard Omars stomach rumbling during the whole video ^^.

[@tactickleshtooper1753]

Thorstein Wolfgangson >>> What's an Omar? Is it made by MagLula? ;-)

[@KamronFultz]

WOW! So M9A3 vs H&K P30 next?

[@zaifi1000]

I would love to see an M9 do this test.

[@hjalmartorbjorn7523]

Second. I chose the P30L over the legion, would like to see the H&K guns in there.

[@jessitaylor4170]

I would absolutely love to see the M9A3 vs the P30L!!!!!

[@ParabolicBox]

+qk1001 What makes you draw that conclusion?

[@j.p.9522]

USP is so much better than the VP9 & P30, and a decades older design. Shame to see HKs quality-control slipping so badly.

[@benjones9429]

Hahahahaha!! The $600 pistol outshot the $1400 pistol!!

[@gurugoguzhanson]

Hahahahaha 600$, it only cost 200$ +/- a few dollars. In its homeland/s :p

[@trumpisgod2535]

It didn't outshoot nor would it ever it simply can be stuffed with more mud. Stop being a salty bum

[@enocherone]

^^found the sig fanboy

[@sqjam]

700€

[@suli7219]

it costs 720€ plus papers in homeland

[@sickmak90]

Glock vs M&P please

[@swimjigjake3567]

this x2

[@22640cal]

This has to happen

[@glenwood89420]

Yes!! Im an M&P guy personally but i have to say id bet they would both blow this test out of the water!!

[@slipperysam1337]

do it tim

[@lapuzza1455]

I like this idea but I say to go with the theme of this video a comparison of a glock or m&p vs Canik TP9. Expensive name brand vs a not so known name and fairly inexpensive compared to the other.

[@oldannyboy37]

This is my 4th or 5th time watching this video. I'm so amazed by that Arex. I must add one to my handgun family!

[@raywitkowski8547]

I have both, the Arex is far more superior. One of the best firearms out.

[@kamikazeeightytwo2063]

Daaammmmnnnn that Sig completely gave out XD That Rex is BEAST!!!

[@peterphelps7969]

Glad I bought the Rex zero 1 , I was considering the Sig. :-) I've had it about 2 months

[@babagermany6654]

My first pistol was a Sig 229, later on I was about to buy a 226 when I came across the Arex Zero 2 which I bought. It shoots better than the Sig, more accurate and holds more rounds. It's a great gun and an excellent value even when compared to other guns.

[@ArmorDoge]

Rex Zero: To hell and back reliability.

[@Truthteller024]

I laughed so hard watching the Rex Zero 1 outperform the Sig Sauer.😂😂😂 Wow! Just wow! A $1400 pistol shown up by a pistol less than half that price. I'm so glad I sold my Legion. I will be investing in a Rex Zero 1 very soon. Bye Bye Sig Sauer.👋

[@mathewhiser1604]

The video was very informative and fair. I was just getting ready to purchase the Sig now it will be the Zero. Thanks for saving me some money.

[@regalgseguy]

I bought a Rex Zero mostly due to this video. While I have not shot it much, the Rex has been perfect! The quality appears very high with a very nice finish. For $500 less than the Sig, you can't go wrong.

[@regalgseguy]

The Rex continues to be perfect!

[@kurts4147]

I bought one after this video as well, hands down one of the nicest shooting handguns I have ever bought.

[@ph-yd3sr]

The Rex is still perfect for me as well. The thing is a damn tank

[@SkinnyMedic]

I was pulling for the Sig!

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I expected the Sig to win or at least have a tie. The outcome surprised us all.

[@misfitmike4685]

damn it shouldn't of looked in the comments. lol

[@mauricemaurice123]

We all were.. Today is a sad day

[@convex7456]

+Military Arms Channel "be the judge of what you saw here this afternoon" lol sounds like a buddy got hit with a round or somthing. lol. i was sad though i spent hours researching the legion last night!!!!!!!!

[@RWB267]

I just order the Arex Rex Zero 1S today and can't wait to get it and take to the range.

[@R0mans13]

Did anyone else notice Omar's oh shit I'm in camera moment? lol great stuff

[@AdrenalineJunkieXL]

haha no that was a pose man he knew the camera was on its his star moment lol

[@R0mans13]

+Omar Salazar Its all good man! lol I had a good laugh from it You guys did a great job and totally gave me another gun to want... thanks lol

[@TRIIGGAVELLI]

Tim probably beat him with a rubber hose for that one.

[@Acgreen56]

When was that ?

[@joemo1033]

Is send that back to Sig, with a link to this video and a note that says "WTF?!"

[@tommcfarland5368]

This video is the single reason im buying this pistol. Its not a p226 design, its a cz99 clone. War-proven in Bosnia and Kosovo, hand fit assembly, beautifully machined. Thanks for your time and effort on these videos Tim!

[@scottg1911]

I wonder if it's new a new Sig thing as compared to an older 226. I'd like to see how a made.in Germany sig fairs if any different. I just question new Sig quality.

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

Highly interesting to me. I want to do a high volume test, 1000+ rounds no cleaning and see how the REX01 does.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I have 20 magazines on order. That will be the next test of the Rex. 1000 rounds in one afternoon as fast as we can put them through it.

[@BrickSquad1017613]

+Military Arms Channel just letting you know that dirt is soil with no nutrients or well dead soil, in the second bin you should have said soil cause its full of nutrients and living :P awesome video btw, like always!!

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

That just happened.

[@jessewilliams8655]

You can drive an 89 ford bronco through a fucking swamp doesn't mean it's a better car than a Porsche.

[@caseyterrence1606]

I am curious to see how an older(pre 2007) Sig pistol compares to the brand new one. IMO and observation Sig's quality has declined since the New Sig Sauer Inc with headquaters in The U.S was founded independent from the Swiss/German company. There may also be a hinderance to quality now that Sig have come out with an overabundance of color options and variance where being trending seems to be the focus.

[@donvincent8482]

I'm getting my arex today hopefully!!

[@marjannovoselc7109]

Thanx for the torture test. It's nice to see that our first pistol isn't a bum. :-)

[@benjaminmauck3867]

Would looser tolerances in the ARex account for improved reliability in the torture test compared to the Sig??

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I think you have the tolerances backwards. The Rex is tighter in my experience: instagram.com/p/BJs6EIRAEph/?hl=en

[@benjaminmauck3867]

+Military Arms Channel I've never personally fired the Rex. Results are surprising to say the least. Thanks for the test. Will certainly try to keep from dropping my Legion in the Mud.im not an Instagram guy not sure what you sent at the end of the last comment.

[@benjaminmauck3867]

+Military Arms Channel plus I'm not sure how accurate a shake test is. I'm by no means a Sig fan boy and the failure of the legion was miserable just wondering why the stark contrast. Would like to see some actual specs on tolerances but I can do that research. Thanks again

[@MrSmith336]

Tighter tolerances help prevent dirt/sand/mud from entering the action. That's why in a mud test the AR is reliable and the AK will behave similar to this Sig Sauer.

[@benjaminmauck3867]

+Bang Switch I believe part of what makes the AK so reliable in adverse conditions is the looser tolerances (i.e. Looser fitting parts and sloppy fit) which may possibly allow for greater debris but lessens a the likelihood of that debris gumming up the parts. (Room for play/error). Sorry can agree with you on that comment. But I'm no expert.

[@shinoasada2216]

I am Slovenian. I am proud of Arex Zero 1S. Edit: I recently decided having national identity is dangerous as it can lead to nazism and so I am declaring myself an internationalist. Still like the Zero 1S however.

[@zigazorin8893]

Jas tudi😂

[@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043]

😆😮😃

[@Drifthaze]

I am American and I think you should be Proud of The Rex Zero good gun, good quality, and when I watched him tour the plant. I have never seen such pride and care go into the making of something. Good good good. Can't wait to get one.

[@jebstuart3]

So......

[@viceptexlonestar9455]

I'm an American and so Proud of Our First Lady Melania of course Slovenian Woman and now I'm in love with the Arex Zero 1 Compact Nickel, lol cheers My Friend.

[@christopherkrupilis3575]

Great video! Love this channel, and very surprised by the results, especially given Sigs reputation, is use in the military, and the price difference. Keep the tests coming!

[@geraldcagney5926]

Best channel by far

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Thank you.

[@geraldcagney5926]

no problem:)

[@NinjaEnShort]

Could it be that the Arex has wider tolerance, allowing it to work with more ingress ? And BTW : HK45 VS modern version of 1911, any you think can be a competitor ! ;)

[@ScuffedEngineer]

MAC says Rex was tighter. Albeit he only shook the two guns and the Legion rattled more.

[@bryanm435]

+Shadow Well that's gospel if I've ever heard it...smh

[@Dgotpwnd]

I was just as surprised as most people with the outcome. I've heard a lot of good things about Sig guns, and I have a P228 myself. Never had any issues with it, but I've also never put it through these sorts of tests and I always clean it after a day at the range. Cool video though, and makes me kinda want an Arex. Look forward to more!

[@diligentbullies]

Well looks like I'm selling my legion and buying two Rex zero 1 pistols! Smh!

[@Willis2515]

Well that's silly

[@charliefoxtrot2779]

I'm pretty disappointed. I wanted to save up for a p226 legion but after this I'm shaken.

[@diligentbullies]

+Charlie Foxtrot I bought my legion about two weeks after the release date paid about 1230$ otd. I'd really think about it before spending that kind of coin. If I had to do it again I'd buy the Rex Zero 1 pistol. I will most likely keep my legion because I'm not in the market of selling my own guns. I do see an Arex Zero 1 in my future!

[@checkc131]

+justin M true fanboy comment right there. 😂

[@jefekeefsosa4998]

+ justin M oh no, the sig was pressed harder than the rex, acknowlodge the rex beat the sig fairly dont try and suck off sig sauer and think theyre jesus.

[@charlieh115]

Nice video 👍 I’ve had the chance to shoot around with that Rex and was impressed. Also own a P226 Legion among many other brands. The tolerances are just a bit tighter on the Sig which may be the reason for this. Kind of like comparing a higher end 1911 with a quality import from Turkey or the Philippines. Those imports will actually be more reliable even though the 1911 snobs will scoff at ‘em.

[@johngonzalessflippenfrench7658]

love my Rex Zero 1 compact and picking up my Rex Alpha on Friday thanks Time!

[@buck19x87]

Ready to see the Glock & M&P torture test! Sig pistols seem to be great range queens!

[@buck19x87]

Yeah love my Pro 9mm but I'd take my Glock 17 with me for SHTF situation.

[@qj877]

I'd like to see Glock vs M&P vs XD.

[@shadowlexXx1214]

I would send you my FNX-45 to test,But I know you are probable busy and get requests all the time. I really want to see how tough it is.

[@Taprack13]

test it yourself.

[@tecobyrd937]

we don't want to test it ourselves that's what we got mac for to mess up his own guns lol

[@SphygmosProductions]

Do you think the MK25 would have fared better in this test? Good video.

[@patricktakada9551]

no

[@bryanm435]

+Patrick Takada yes..

[@jacobmanalang8162]

i think so. well i hope so. actually i think an older internal extractor or short external extractor 226 would have kept going like the rex zero 1. especially if it says "made in germany" on it, even though mine is made in exeter. i dont actually know if it would have done better but i really want to believe it would have haha. i dont like the new longer extractor. i dont know if its better or worse, i just dont like it. but im fine with the long extractor on my hk uspc.

[@bryanm435]

+jacob manalang I only own two SigSauer pistols, but I love them. I also own US, German, Austrian, and Czech made pistols. But there is something about my NEW - Non-W. German made Legion that is just downright sexy-infectious to my soul. The new longer extractor is pretty to me, but to others it's not. It is however, 3 times as STRONG as the previous short extractor, and is able to apply more force to the rim because of the length and fulcrum-effect. It's also more robust, and should last a freakin lifetime. I love my MK25 as well, it just isn't as easy to shoot or as accurate as the Legion, Bruce Grey REALLY knows how to make a trigger run in these Sigs! The Legion isn't meant to go through this crap shown in this video, it's a precision tac-driver that is perfect duty, range, & self-defense, sitting inside my BlackPoint with a SF-X300U underneath it! This vid did nothing for me but made me smile while petting this sexy-ass Sig and hearing it purr!! One Happy-ass Camper!! 😎👌🏼🔫😍

[@Natuek]

I would love to see the IWI Jericho run the gauntlet. I plan on buying one. That would be much appreciated, thanks!

[@boystoyz8922]

Just watched for about the 4th time. This video never gets old. Love it!!! EXTREMELY IMPRESSED with the ArexZero. 👍 I've always wanted the Sig Legion, but I guarantee you I will buy the Arex b4 I buy any Sig. Great video Sir, Great video!

[@RockIslandguy]

Sig like pistol at half or a third of the price. It will become popular. I'll have to look for one. Thanks

[@volticcloud5491]

Legion kinda reminds me of super cars, function flawlessly and fast(driving on road), but performs miserably in other terrain(dirt, off-road, etc). But then again we are talking about firearms here, especially coming from SIG. Given that reliability is their selling point attractive enough for spec ops to pick it up. Might want to buck up SIG, I would view it in better light if at least the gun operate reliably(like Rex Zero) regardless of price point of SIGs line(from basic model to top-tier Legion model).

[@kostergratis]

Nice vid! did not expect that result. But its likely due to the fact that the sig is a range gun with some tight tolerances. At the range you could probably get a better group with the sig (I hope due to the price!) but in a defence situation in the field the video speaks for it self. I would like to see a torture test of: Beretta 92fs / M9 HK Mark 23 CZ 75 sp-01

[@copperandradium]

I am surprised that the Arex did that well, considering the fact it has an internal extractor.

[@user-ui8sp5th4g]

I shot my buddies p226 Legion and fell in love with it. Leave it to MAC to make me think twice about buying it lol.

[@syncere010]

Earned a new subscriber and Arex is getting a sale today!! Was never interested in the Sig. Love my M&P .40 but this test sold me on the Rex Zero 1. Excellent Video!!

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

Go Slovenia!!!

[@Armedplatypus]

12:25 "Oh shit can the camera see me?"

[@randybowen4675]

its people like you who give him every right to be nervous/anxious

[@DB.KOOPER]

I always thought of the ARex as a Sig copy in some ways, but there's a bit of CZ P-07/09 in that gun as well from the look of the trigger guard and rail/dust-cover... Interesting, I think I may have to pick one of these up (The ARex) if I can find one.

[@BoscoDASuperhero]

For $1500, that shouldn't be having any issues.

[@ffej7373]

G19 vs VP9 next!

[@longcutarizona9816]

From what we've already seen, the VP9 won't fire as soon as it's initially dunked in the water. He's already shown the VP9 to be garbage.

[@truebornsonofliberty554]

VP9 will stop working in excess humidity.

[@aw9389]

mac has already shown the vp9 is shit. not a glock fan boy either it's just the better pistol.

[@SoadAddict91]

I have a feeling that the G19 would come out on top there.

[@ffej7373]

Right but I'd like to see how the vp9 does with the new testing protocol-- especially when comparing it to the gold standard.

[@peted2770]

Thanks for the review. I have been debating on the 226 Legion for some time and now I think I'll hang on to my M&P. P.S. Love my M&P but I am interested in getting a full metal frame.

[@t2gunner]

I'm blown away too... I have both but feeling pretty good about my Rex right now. Let's try that with my Colt Comp 1911!

[@toddschimmel965]

I am a Sig and M&P fan, and I've thought about this A LOT. The only problem I have with the Rex Zero is that it is almost an exact clone of a Sig. I have fully disassembled and reassembled all the weapons I own while cleaning them, and although I can only find a couple videos on the Rex Zero, I have found a couple, and the Rex is almost exactly a clone of a Sig. Anyways, I started thinking, how the heck did the Rex slaughter the Sig in the torture test when it's basically the same gun? Came down to this for me, I could be wrong, but all the other handguns MAC has tested to date had "external" extractors, while the Rex has an "Internal" extractor, so I think that protecting the extractor from debris is causing less, or in this case, no failures. Then I started thinking about how not going into battery could be an extractor "problem", if the extractor is "gummed up" then it wont open to "wrap" around the casing causing the weapon to be out of battery, the other failures being an extractor issue are self explanatory in my opinion. I wonder if you went back to one of the weapons that performed "poorly", even the Sig for example, and just laid the weapon in the debris on the non extractor side, if they would perform better? MAC if you read this, I know you are a very busy guy, but do you think you could redo one of the tests in this manner? Either way, thank you for the entertaining, and informative videos! Anyways, good on Rex for making an existing weapons platform even better, but they did build off of the Sig.

[@robveach68]

He lays all the weapons he tests on both sides. Why give an advantage to the Sig that the other weapons didn't get?

[@marksadnik7270]

Nuts! Nuts! I don't see the problem. Face the truth the rex is cheaper but more reliable so I don't get what you're saying.

[@ImmortalSet]

Clone or not both still nice gun to own. I'll take both if u don't want it 😂 I'll go to war with the rex n the pretty sig can stay home n look pretty when I get back 😂. Mankind built this world to advance n the rex is taking the cake n the fat lady with it 😂

[@headkickko609]

There goes the "exact clone" theory....

[@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043]

Does not matter if its a clone if it is better and cheaper

[@greywolf556]

Good test. Surprising results. With the Sig, after the final cleaning and lube, after ending the test, the ejections appeared to be much stronger than during even the cleaning and function check after it failed the first time.

[@LastReviewer]

Just found this video, was looking for new carry piece. Rex zero is insane. Will buy

[@mr.papalaka374]

The Rex Zero 1 is the most accurate and reliable pistol I own

[@OL-Tom]

I think the difference between the two is the Sig's external extractor compared to the Arex Rex internal extractor

[@alessandrochiarenza5923]

Torture test the ARX! I'm dying to see how it performs after it kicked ass in the cold weather test!

[@stemapo94]

100% agree

[@ozarkbeararms8840]

I'd be interested in seeing that too. I've had my ARX coming up on 2 years this Christmas. I've never had a failure out of it, but then again I've never tortured it, aside from feeding it some very lower power .223 that choked a couple of my other guns (ACR, Tavor SAR, and MK18 as i recall).

[@stemapo94]

Yep, I think is one of the most reliable rifle outside, beretta and Italian army, have tested it a lot in battlefield like Afghanistan (hot, sand...) and Italian alps( snow,cold,mud...)

[@the_frijoless3660]

I think the sig was built to tighter tolerances and specs (more of a match quailty instead of full on ruggedness and reliability) of the model and therefore makes it more prone to stoppages as shown I think a basic p226 would have faired better since they are manufactured to "loser" tolerances.

[@rusticspoon6103]

Also gonna agree with this.

[@CCW1911]

SEALS used the 226 a long time so that alone says the basic design is good. Not that they didn't have problems at first with frames cracking but that was due to the super hot TZZ ammo and the amount of training rounds going thru some guns. The frame cracking issue was addressed and I haven't heard of any further reliability problems. This test does prove that this Legion won't tolerate sand and grit in the action.

[@binos8843]

Don't know if you follow MAC on instagram but he answered this, and believe it or not but the Rex is actually tighter in tolerance than the Sig is.

[@CCW1911]

I don't do instagram. Where can I see the numbers comparing the two?

[@joemaniery1014]

Actually it probably opposite. It's made with looser tolerance to make it feed more reliable with a wide range of ammo but leaves gaps that allow dirt and Debris to affect the rails and slow the action. That's why the ammo was erratic and barely falling out

[@project86xero]

Just got a p229 legion rx. The gray guns coating causes issues when the guns new. It's thick and flakes off on the rails easily. It even sticks to the rails and since it's the same color it's hard to see. If it was a normal 229 it might not have had that issue.

[@ilcctinstructor6870]

Read my comment if you want all test results to date in order of performance. I was bored today, so I tallied up MACs testing results to date. The names are in order of fewest issues to most for the elemental test. If a tie occurred, the number of gauntlet test issues determined the order. If testing was stopped, I counted up the number of un-fired shots and counted those as issues. I also divided by tiers to put things in a pragmatic perspective. Enjoy. Flawless Tier (0 Elemental Test Issues): Rex Zero 1 Archon Type B H&K USP45 S&W M&P 2.0 FN FiveSeven CZP10C Glock 17 Walther PPQ M2 Beretta APX Excellent Tier (1 Easily Remedied Elemental Test Issue) : CZ P07 Beretta M9A1 Remington RP9 Beretta Px4 Storm 'Good Enough' Tier (2 Elemental Test Issues) : Sig Sauer Mk25 Hi-Point C9 Century Arms Canik TP9 SF Disappointing (3+ Elemental Test Issues) H&K VP9 [standard spring] S&W M&P Sig Sauer P320 Compact Colt 1911 Sig P226 Legion H&K VP9 [heavier spring] FN 509

[@ivanzavala345]

Thanks for sharing, I appreciate the time and effort!

[@trevorjacksonhall]

MAC why can't you get the ZQI ammo any more?

[@Militaryarmschannel]

They stopped importing the 9mm, the other ammo is still coming in.

[@trevorjacksonhall]

+Military Arms Channel okay thanks! one more question. Between the two handguns shown in this video, which would you recommend?

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Watch the video. :) The Sig is a beautiful gun and will serve you quite well. Is it worth 3x's as much? IMHO no, it's not. The only thing I can ding the Rex Zero 1 for is the fact it won't accept Sig sights (for a wide variety of sight options).

[@trevorjacksonhall]

+Military Arms Channel nice! Okay thanks again!

[@capsfan0088]

+Military Arms Channel I havent been able to find ZQI 5.56 in a very long time. Where can I get some?

[@ashaman03]

This is one of the reasons why I’ll be buying a Rex soon. Keep up the great videos MAC.

[@terryfaugno9242]

You carry the AREX Rex Zero 1s at Copper?

[@terryfaugno9242]

I ask since so far, the only way I've been able to find to get one is order one directly from K-Var. I'd *like* to buy from a local shop to support them, and also to handle the pistol and see if it's comfortable for me to hold, check the trigger pull and reset, etcetera. Barring that, I'd rather order from somewhere like Copper since you do provide a *lot* of value in the form of information born of practical experience, and would pay a premium vs. a bottom dollar online vendor to chip in to support your continuing efforts.

[@DCopp]

+Terry Faugno just get a Zastava that Rex copied

[@acousticguitarpeter]

That's ignorant. Zastava copied Makarov and Makarov copied Browning. FYI Slovenia and Serbia (Zastava) were one country not so long ago - Yugoslavia.

[@DCopp]

Which is why Arex copied Zastava cz999

[@TecoOPlays]

LOL SIG fanboys are much alike Apple fanboys...

[@johnnyasus86]

Gabriel Martins or glock fanboys

[@Logan.Ninefingers]

Cool. I'm both :-)

[@linokleinmeuleman3348]

Gabriel Martins good comparison !

[@-ok-boomer-]

REEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT OF MY SIG SAFESPACE SWITZERLAND STRONK SIG STRONK

[@nickv5576]

Gabriel Martins that’s more like Glock fanboys