Tory MP's Lies About Hospitals Called Out By Unexpected Guest!

Lucy Frazer a Tory MP appeared on BBC Question Time where she tried to push the old Boris Johnson lie of building 40 new hospitals. However it was caught and rebutted by an guest that may suprise.
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[@jonathanwetherell3609]

Politicians who lie MUST be called out, they have been getting away with it for too long.

[@owenrichards1418]

Unfortunately, too many people just believe what they are told and don't think about it. These people also vote. This is how Brexit went through.

[@S.Mir786]

Brits love reading daily mail & sun! Moreover still believe in the monarchy so no hope!

[@gordion1]

No they should be sacked. Very little difference between a lie and propaganda.

[@unklemunky8992]

Show me one who doesn’t. The only person with honest intentions who’s entered the Houses of Parliament in the last 500 years was Guy Fawkes.

[@alastairwallace6153]

They should be sacked from government for lying.

[@chrstnldg6652]

Even if we had 40 new hospitals where would the staff come from?!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Ukrainian refugees?

[@rw4754]

Well I know someone working at a Consulting Firm based in London working on slashing NHS Staff by 35%.

[@peterclarke7240]

We'd just get all those lazy retired nurses and doctors to volunteer, or we'll threaten to cut their pensions. This is a JOKE! No, Therese, NO. Put it DOWN. This is not a serious suggestion! DO NOT TRY TO MAKE IT INTO GOVERNMENT POLICY, YOU IDIOT!!!!

[@christinavuyk2026]

Fair point 🤬

[@christinavuyk2026]

@@rw4754 I so wish I could say I was surprised by this 😐

[@owenrichards1418]

The press being complicit in most of these lies and not calling out the lies is a big part of the problem. This is now in most media outlets. Tories are allowed to peddle their BS any and everywhere.

[@bobsmithy9024]

I doubt it is humanely possible to build 40 hospitals by 2030. That's seems an impossible task. We had the coronavirus pandemic, we have rising inflation, huge debt. I have no idea where the government would find the money to finance so many hospitals. It was a ludicrous announcement from Boris the Buffoon!

[@gorillaguerillaDK]

Not even asking WHAT DIFFERENCE WILL THESE HOSPITALS MAKE? FFS, I work at a clinic for Physiotherapy where we have a medium size Gym attached - if I want new equipment for the gym, or a new device to use to diagnose or treat patients with, or as one of our current projects is working on, increasing the size of our facilities, either by renting more space in the building or moving to another location - then we have to make the case of what difference will it make! What is the cost compared to what we can expect as an outcome. Some of our equipment and devices cost a ton of money, so we have to consider, how and how much will this influence the end result, do we have existing means that do it just as well or even better, how many users can we expect, will we have to add a fee for use, does it take special training to use it effectively and if that’s the case then how many hours, etc. etc. Just making a statement about building new hospitals says nothing about what it will mean - will it decrease waiting time, increase survival ratings, how many beds will this add to the total available, will it give patients a better experience while being hospitalized, will it decrease the risk of transmitting disease/infections among those hospitalized, will it decrease time of transportation from home to hospital, is it all ambulatory care units, or are we talking large scale hospitals with a huge number of highly specialized units?

[@alastairwallace6153]

Like julie here spouting about how labour bad, yet she spouts the same lies and conspiracy nonsense the government use to avoid sorting the real issues.

[@derekharrison1582]

I don’t usually agree with ANYTHING that Julia Hartley Brewer says,but she called it NONSENSE when this idiot came out with such a blatant lie,saying 40 new hospitals had been built.I’m so glad they made her look a complete fool for lying like that on national TV.WHY people vote for politicians like this,fooled by their promises and lies,I will never know.And they’ll vote for them again in 2024.I’m afraid there are STILL TOO MANY people who just think the Tories are a better bet than Labour.NEVER MIND the past TWELVE YEARS,but the past TWO MONTHS!Imagine what the right wing media would have said and done if a Labour government had behaved like this!

[@andydudley1775]

yep just ask phill and holly.

[@psrpippy]

And yet Johnson kept getting away with the same claim.

[@cgrady4255]

The Johnson factor has taken on Cult status. He is rarely referred to other than by his christian name which in itself is telling. Somehow people see him as a personal friend. Probably one of the most successful PR stunts of all time

[@davidpowell6098]

Because he was allowed to.

[@dfrntlvltc5095]

@@cgrady4255 Alexander?

[@dlevi67]

@@cgrady4255 You mean Bojo the clown?

[@geoffreywilton8610]

@@dfrntlvltc5095 Better still. De Pfeffel?

[@robertdoyle687]

They have total CONTEMPT for us 🤬

[@janelockwood347]

They are using the USA ‘s playbook…. Scary times…

[@Dylanesque]

Precisely. Little brother trying to follow in big brother's footsteps.

[@rw4754]

YEs, I live in NYC & the Tories are owned by Authoritarian forces.

[@lamueldagon7618]

@Daniel Wood Excellent point.

[@eyesopen7946]

it is about time the uk ditched the usa , there mess is getting way to big in the geopolitical arena and we are a small island nation in 2022

[@eyesopen7946]

@@judythomas2939 i am not sure as to where you are from , but i am from the UK and the UK is sinking , and to quote us to be like an aircraft carrier most of our population in the UK could not fight there way out of a paper bag lol , little Britain's days of stick wagging empire is long gone

[@philiphowell1505]

40 new hospitals? theres no one to build them never mind staff them, no one to maintain them, unfortunately there are thousands waiting to use these mirage hospitals.

[@dondoodat]

About 7 MILLION on waiting lists.

[@georgecrothers5618]

Mirage Hospitals - I like it !

[@srp01983]

This is the problem - the fact that the lies come so easily to these people, and they object when they get called out for it.

[@stephengraham1153]

You know when tories are lying because their lips are moving.

[@fuckbankers]

I don't agree with the premise of the question. 🤣

[@ronpeers1363]

If a roof is repaired on a hospital, that will be called a new hospital.. New floor covering is new hospital.. If the tory jackal get In again.. 100% that would be the end of NHS... Thankfully they know they have no chance of winning another election...the nasty party have been exposed.....

[@ohyeah2816]

When are we going to get rid of this mob!?!

[@thetruth-loveitorhateit7999]

We do - but the sheep just replace it with another mob of the same low calibre.

[@DrRusty5]

"We have the hospital" "we are committed to the new hospitals" "some of the new hospitals might be upgrades to old hospitals..." "we are investing in in new hospitals" "we are gaslighting you"

[@geoffreywilton8610]

Just like the 'affordable housing'. When do we get that?

[@JMHM3170]

@@geoffreywilton8610 Like the Parliamentary Debate on the Australian Trade Deal that didn't happen!

[@geoffreywilton8610]

@@JMHM3170 It's getting to be a long list. Good riddance Bojo.

[@condal32]

This is why we are in the state we are in. Twelve years of client journalists not holding the tories to account. So, nothing gets done. The tories are in permanent campaign mode, so nothing ACTUALLY gets done.Ffs😡

[@JayGriffinblaze]

WIth them it's always "Jam tomorrow." "We will do/make/secure/buy/implement/streamline etc" After a few months when the news cycles have moved on they start claiming the aspiration as achievement.

[@mandycouchbean]

Well said David Absolutely Spot on ! 👏👏

[@cherylsalmon8429]

Yes, as usual he was spot on. But he didn't get anything like a fair share of speaking time on the programme. The Tory mouthpience and Julia Rentamouth got far more...

[@alexmac2010]

Good to see the Tories are still being laughed at

[@chriswood3252]

@derzzsh The Tories have been laughing at us for 12 years!

[@jibberjabber2957]

I think they are laughing at us, pay rise every year, expenses paid for second home, being a PM for 44 days and then get £115k for rest of life etc etc etc etc

[@RealConstructor]

And amazingly they’re still in power. The political system in the UK is distorted. Get a proper constitution and give this laughing stock no chance to stay in power while changing PMs at the highest rate rarely seen.

[@malimbep4298]

@@chriswood3252 Specially at the thick people who voted for them.

[@michaelpower4372]

If she told that lie on sky news she would have got away with it

[@heliotropezzz333]

There isn't even a plan for 40 new hospitals because if you asked them to name the 40 hospitals in the plan, they can't name 40 hospitals they plan to build.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

They can not even name 40 EXISTING hospitals they want to close and sell to the highest American bidder…

[@AdrianNelson1507]

A plan without details is a dream!

[@realityflyer3155]

Or.. its a plan for a plan...

[@davidturner6995]

@@realityflyer3155 We plan to plan for 40 "new" hospitals , absolutely correct

[@gorillaguerillaDK]

They should also provide details for what difference these "new hospitals" will make and if it’s even as part of the NHS - is it 40 privatized Ambulatory Service/Care Units or is it NHS getting 40 brand new top modern large scale hospitals with a wide variety of highly specialized units? What are the estimates involved with building these hospitals, will it decrease the average time of transportation from home to hospital, will it increase rate of survival, will it provide better and safer working conditions for the staff, will it give patients a better experience etc. etc…..

[@simonwilliams1238]

This is the contempt that Tory politicians have for the general public to think we are all stupid, good for David Lammy to call her out, no apology from Lucy Frazer

[@digbycrankshaft7572]

Tories never apologise. Its part of their supreme arrogance

[@davidspear9790]

Voters, especially Tory voters, have selected hearing and cherry pick the best bits. Politicians are fully aware of this and know that 80/90% will believe there spiel.

[@wobblechopps2010]

I’d be shocked if the headline was “Tories MP tells truth”

[@rufus1346]

Unless that truth is beneficial to them.

[@a.m.armstrong8354]

Or Labour/ lib-dems. 3 factions in a one-party state!

[@stephenholmes1036]

​@@a.m.armstrong8354 spot on their all the same establishment group out for themselves

[@followthetrawler]

Unbelievable it was Hartley-Brewer that called her out... She needs to read the room better - yes Lucy we are angry - we've been lied to and you seem to think we should be calm about that

[@JayGriffinblaze]

When Hartley-Brewer, normally the Tory attack dog is calling out the lie, you know there's been a serious miscalculation from CCHQ.

[@mickeykyrle4240]

Any PM or MP that lies should be removed from office. They hold a high standard of service to the UK people and if they lie about 1 thing what else have they lied about. Its time to have the truth and nothing but the truth from our MPs. Its time to have law abiding MPs not law breaking MPs. It's time to have MPs took down a notch and treated the same way as everyone else. If a MP broke Covid-19 laws the FPN should have been set at the max as MPs should know better. MPs lead this nation they must lead by example.

[@njkip]

They've lied for so long they don't know how to tell the truth..

[@lindacadogan6616]

Completely agree. How can an misled public make an informed decision about their government representative. It is madness!

[@xav9258]

There'd be nobody left! They lie through their teeth about every matter all the time!

[@snak3y3z50]

@@xav9258 indeed, and the world over

[@mattbosley3531]

If that happened you'd have no government at all. Which would be even worse than what you have now. I doubt you would find more than a handful of politicians who never lied.

[@mandycouchbean]

Exactly what we need from Labour more of the same please ! 👍

[@johnwright9372]

Many Labour MPs are more straightforward and honest than their party leader.

[@grahamjohn678]

If a socialist had been the first to react to the lie, David Lammy wouldn't have been so keen to pile in.

[@billlarner7977]

What more strikes you mean millions of people who won't get paid for not getting to work or people who can't get to hospital appointments some for cancer treatment which labour think it is fine I would not vote for the Tory's but It would be a cold day in hell before I vote for labour

[@georgekaplan4884]

If journalists don't call out the lies that politicians tell, why don't they? Perhaps there needs to be a focus on them too, who they are and who they work for...

[@preetjitsingh328]

Access culture. I won't grant you access if you are too much against me. Same in the US, India, Philippines etc. It is insane.

[@dondoodat]

Journalists have been replaced with Presenters.

[@gorillaguerillaDK]

We already know why, and it’s a multifaceted issue! Some of them being: There’s media networks owned by oligarchs who want to influence policies. It’s to easy for politicians to decline interviews if they have reason to suspect they will have a hard time justifying themselves and/or policies. Social Media gives them a platform, even of other media won’t - so it’s very hard to try to hold them accountable. Media Culture today is highly flawed in their interpretation of what balanced means. (Example; having a highly educated specialist in virology and immunology debate some random Chiropractor or Osteopath who make weird claims about vira and immunology is presented as a debate of opinions rather than a debate between a specialist and an idiot)

[@mojoden]

The Mudrake clan & NewsCrap.

[@atomiccritter6492]

Owen Jones covered this in an interview with a journalist. Much of the problem is that journalists entering the career come from privileged backgrounds where they can start on unpaid internships simply because they can use family money to get them through that period, while that's practically impossible for the poor working class. Factor in that the employers will like take on people that don't rock the boat and you can see that it's generally subservient to the rich right wing

[@pollyannakarina]

Amazing times, a chronic liar Julia Hartley Brewer calling out a Tory liar.

[@GreenmanXIV]

It was Fiona Bruce.

[@billgreen576]

@@GreenmanXIV Bruce only reacted after JHB had called the MP out. Watch again

[@JayGriffinblaze]

@@billgreen576 Bruce only ever reacts after another TORY calls it out. So obvious she is bought.

[@saeedhossain6099]

yeah I was surprised too. my cynical self thinks JHB has aging parents and is expecting the state to pick up the tab....

[@MrFright2010]

Sometimes, you need a thief to catch a thief.

[@jbtv5617]

Street robberies are increasing 100% where i am, are they happy yet?

[@strooomy5592]

Politicians suffering consequences when they lie ?? 😂😂😂 That’ll be the day.

[@brianperry]

They get reinstated a few weeks after being Sacked and saying Sorry!...Or they have something over those above..wink, wink.nudge, nudge.....Know what I mean!!

[@Dolmar-Rick]

Still waiting for krankie to get the boot🤷‍♂️

[@thetruth-loveitorhateit7999]

100%

[@atomiccritter6492]

I think in a few European countries politicians can be held accountable for lying

[@Mark1405Leeds]

My faith in the BBC has evaporated in the last decade! Give me James O'Brien on LBC anyday!

[@digbycrankshaft7572]

@@Robc--jd6yh more balanced than any of the rancid whores in the msm bought and paid for by the right.

[@atomiccritter6492]

@@Robc--jd6yh OBrien is good on some issues

[@davidharrison9324]

Fiona Bruce would have totally let that go if Lammy hadnt spoken up!!

[@grahamlees4394]

Bruce is less than useless...

[@geoffpoole483]

@@grahamlees4394 Tories think otherwise.

[@petersvillage7447]

@@grahamlees4394 Increasingly I feel she's actively complicit, rather than useless...

[@lamueldagon7618]

I miss David... Bruce is an Android

[@leslie-annmills-gomez8763]

Fiona has lost all credibility she is biased

[@janetmackinnon3411]

Every lie needs to be pointed out.

[@jak1590]

MPs who lie or deliberately mislead should be thrown out of Parliament and never be allow to return. Take note Johnson, Braverman, Dorries et al

[@seanhaywood4597]

lieing should be punishable by deportation to rwanda or being made to fill in potholes

[@PaulWelsh]

politicians who lie in their job should go to prison! I don't understand why this isn't taken more seriously. Their lies impact the lives of millions of people

[@mrdaveythebaby]

Surely the next thing that is said is 'why should we believe anything you say now you've been caught in a massive lie?'

[@lidbass]

I do wonder what has happened to Question Time. I started watching it back in the days of Robin Day, a man who was by no means perfect but who suffered fools badly and would indeed take the politicians to task. Of course politicians spin the truth and the best ones use language very carefully, and I’ve always hated people saying ‘They all lie!’ It’s lazy and wrong. But recently we do seem to have a number of people in public life (not just politicians!) who appear to genuinely believe that they can just lie without any consequences. And at the same time, a journalist making a private comment about another person and letting off steam while believing himself off-air gets punished.

[@yussepig6629]

The days of Robin or even Dimbleby are long gone. We have a soulless robot government mouthpiece in place.

[@AuxesisHyperbole666]

@@yussepig6629 The only decent Dimbleby was Richard. The offspring were entitled and smug.

[@agedcorsair6707]

Sadly, the majority of political journalists are too cozy with those they are meant to hold to account. They don't want to risk losing access to the high and mighty by asking too many difficult questions or exposing too many lies...you'll never land that juicy Communications Director post in Downing Street that way.

[@wayneford2481]

Lying to the public should be prosecuted by law and MPs are NOT above the law.

[@thetruth-loveitorhateit7999]

Yes. But they are above the law.

[@solentbum]

@@thetruth-loveitorhateit7999 The are not above the Law, they do though have certain 'Parliamentary Privileges' that protect them from civil actions, and protect their freedom of speech . The matter of lying should be dealt with by the Privileges committee, perhaps as bringing the 'House' into disrepute.

[@thetruth-loveitorhateit7999]

@@solentbum Then they are above the law. The "house" does not need bringing into disrepute. It's already there.

[@rw4754]

That quote, "A lie is halfway around the World before the truth gets its britches on", is from Mark Twain. James O'brien borrowed it. It means that the truth finds itself flat footed & unable to catch up.

[@lidbass]

It’s not from Twain, it was attributed to him after his death. The original concept is from Swift, although he doesn’t mention shoes. The first quote in print is from the Portland Gazzette in 1820, although the quotee is not cited.

[@borandiUK]

It takes an order of magnitude more effort to refute bullshit than to generate it

[@dondoodat]

Similarly it is easier to con people than to convince them they have been conned. Add that to the speed of the lie, the number of lies and the lack of consequences for lying and the truth barely stands a chance.

[@digbycrankshaft7572]

It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” - Mark Twain.

[@rw4754]

@@borandiUK well said

[@michaelking8642]

Spending money without getting a return is not an investment, it’s a cost !

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Or a failed investment. You can reduce your taxes with a failed investment.

[@johnrussell3961]

It’s called an essential public service.

[@michaelking8642]

@@johnrussell3961 She called it an investment. Usual Tory bollox.

[@Silentpeeinurine]

Liars, damned liars, and politicians.

[@TheBigMidweek1889]

I had to laugh at how Lucy Frazer's feeble attempt to humiliate David Lammy for getting angry with her spectacularly backfired. Everyone in that hall, including herself, knew that she was shamelessly peddling Johnson's lies about those hospitals.

[@MartinJames389]

The "40 new hospitals" lie is now over 3 years old. 3 years and not a foundation dug, not a brick laid. Ah, but they have a plan, do they? Yeah, I have a plan to climb Masherbrum, you know. Then I woke up and found I was 76 and was never anywhere near that standard when I was 26 or 36.

[@Rebelconformist82]

Damn.......exactly. stinks all this, huh

[@atomiccritter6492]

A plan without details is just wishful thinking

[@MartinJames389]

@@atomiccritter6492 This one isn't even that. They don't wish to have more hospitals to fund. It's just lying propaganda. The only "wishful thinking" involved is for people to vote for them again.

[@Daktangle]

It's as bad as the afordable homes. They haven't built any at all since they took power in 2010, but they keep saying they have.

[@michaelsaunders6923]

What do you expect from a politician?40? where? If that's the case why is the NHS in such a mess?😡

[@keithashley6298]

I’m sick and tired of all their lies.

[@Youtube_deleted_my_favourites]

over 7 million people waiting for treatment

[@eddys.3524]

Look at the faces of the public when she got called out for her lie !

[@timdoyle4902]

40 existing hospitals funded properly would be a start

[@elipa3]

I dont know, what these people think, how they can get away with these lies.

[@leslie-annmills-gomez8763]

Forgive her, she's only been in the job 24 hrs as she kept reminding us

[@russelljenkins7953]

That Conservative lassie was out her depth on Thursday

[@nicks4934]

Why do the audience laugh? No doubt most will vote for these chancers again 🤬

[@atomiccritter6492]

I think there will a lot of voters simply not voting in the next general election as we have a blatantly corrupt Tory party and a Labour party that won't really change things offering nothing

[@chrisgermann6658]

A lie in the private sector = gross misconduct and is a sackable offense in many cases. Why are MPs exempt?

[@ajw9533]

When caught lying, she smiles.

[@barriereid9244]

Because she does not have an answer or an apology.

[@ruthguthrie1099]

I hope people are aware of the contempt she proudly expressed of us Scots during her maiden speech.

[@golfrichardvc]

And there's the problem with 21st century UK politics coupled with the irony of her telling David Lammy to not get angry is heartbreaking. We deserve better and we need to make sure that the liars are called out and then punished

[@robduncan599]

Integrity, Professionalism and Accountability. Where is it PM Sunak? Are you leading from the front ?

[@drastberry1454]

Busy transferring money to his off shore bank accounts.

[@22Phantasm]

Notice sunak specifically didn't use the trait any of his govt has.... Honesty. This should have been immediately called out after his sh!tty spech.

[@sheilaroddick5853]

Truth is Britain is now a failed state and Sunak is a failure of the worst kind.

[@tornagawn]

Ah, the Amber Heard playbook: a ‘pledge’ to build 40 new hospitals is the same as having 40 new hospitals….

[@robertlamont9455]

The mutation of exaggeration and misleading to blatant lying will be the death of UK politics yet. This instance on QT is unusual in that the challenge was taken up by the chair, there have been far too many instances where it was not.

[@BrianMcGuirkBMG]

It's not even refurbishment, it's just routine maintenance on existing hospitals.

[@hughmckendrick3018]

Should be a criminal offence for a public repersentive to lie in office.

[@chrispnw2547]

There is no longer any shame for bluntly and purposely lying to the public. This kind of behavior is criminal because she is misleading the public on purpose.

[@craigsanderson4330]

They are just robots who have bullet points as a vocabulary.

[@ericlackford6718]

The trouble is...we, keep on lying down and wondering why we are being stamped on! I wish I was younger, there is so much more to fight the government and the elite over.

[@David-le7jy]

they need to go further and ask who is going to staff these mythical 40 hospitals when the NHS is massively under staffed as it is.

[@Goingdowntobeavertown]

I work in a large acute hospital. We have a refurbishment and extension of our Emergency Department planned. This, apparently, counts as a new hospital. Furthermore, our existing ED is woefully (probably dangerously) understaffed, so there’ll be insufficient staff f this extension ever gets built anyway.

[@macjim]

As long as we have a media that goes along with the telling lies, nothing will change.

[@aliziyaeddin5576]

Well of course their going to keep lying if they're only called out with no punishment. Dishonesty is not the same as being economical with the truth.

[@susangavaghan]

It's great that she was called out - this needs to happen all the time.

[@clivepowell1765]

When you have media commentors who are friends with the policians and reporting everything that they say without questions there will never be no change

[@derekambler]

End of this Comment does not make sense; very poor grammar!!

[@modestproposal9114]

They aren't friendly with politicians, they are friendly with Right wing politicians.

[@smc2406]

Great video max👍

[@ThurstonWhore1]

Even Julia called her out....Before she denied climate change again 🙄

[@FeckHallBahn]

Your best yet in my opinion. Great to hear someone sounding as utterly furious as I do.

[@Londinium379]

The appalling thing about this is not just the lie, it’s the fact that she thinks no one should be angry about it. Atrocious.

[@Indyghurl]

Gaslighting

[@jasonuren3479]

Interesting factoid. One reason why this information sometimes comes out on programmes like Question Time is because it's not made by the BBC, but rather bought in from another production company.

[@mattgreek1066]

Like 95% of BBC content since the mid 1970s. This isn’t new.

[@jasonuren3479]

@@mattgreek1066 Fair point, it isn't new, but a lot of people don't know it.

[@charlescaudell9493]

Bruce would have let it go! She and programme makers support a very fightback centre view.

[@iainwares6361]

@@jasonuren3479 Tinopolis, based in Wales is the parent company of subsiduary Mentorn ltd a production company based in Glasgow that makes Question Time for the BBC, but they're just a production outfit, QT is edited and broadcast by the BBC and the editor is a BBC Scotland guy who until recently edited BBC Scotland 9.00 news. BBC are the creators, own the format and are fully responsible for the output. They jusr sub contract the making, like Tesco get other companies to make their own brands.

[@headofmyself5663]

Kick them out of the studio when lies are exposed. This cannot go on in a democracy.

[@paulnorris2756]

What would happen if there was a Standards Committee whose task is to censure political lies that required wrongdoers to formally acknowledge a lie?

[@chrissouthgate4554]

It would be nice if politicians were held to the same high standards as those who sell us sliced bread & corn flakes!

[@cheatermccheat6378]

I've been asking myself the same question for a while Paul. How is there nothing in place for this? How is there nobody sat in parliamentary sessions who's job it is to call out lies with facts and tell people to answer questions properly if they dodge them? The speaker will kick people out if they're unruly or say something truthful that hurts someone's feelings, but AFAIK he never challenges people who lie or don't answer questions. It baffles me that there's no one in there to enforce rules and challenge lies/unanswered questions.

[@lloydbelle3406]

I'll tell what would happen. Should a standards committee exist and it was 100% successful in all areas of political integrity - people like Jacob Rees Mogg, Boris Johnson wouldn't want a political career.

[@paulnorris2756]

@@cheatermccheat6378 agreed! Could that not be a job for a specialist committee of the house of lords which is the highest court in the land? I realise that if they were to have to discuss every complaint about lies to the public they would be very busy indeed (I’m not intending to be humorous here). Would it not be possible to set up a group of retired public servants who could pass their views to the house of lords committee for it to agree or disagree?

[@lloydbelle3406]

@@cheatermccheat6378 There are two incidents where Boris has lied twice in the Commons (against Parliamentary Rules), yet when challenged - it is the challengers who are ejected from the Commons leaving Boris fully protected.

[@derin111]

“If you tell a big enough lie and keep repeating it, eventually people will come to believe it.” - Josef Goebbels Ironically, this quote is often taken out of context and thought to be a propaganda technique he was advocating himself. No! He was actually talking about the BRITISH whom he believed: “Keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.” Nothing has changed there then!

[@elpresidente8730]

Get Mick Lynch on Question Time and he will just expose the Tory lies one by one.

[@greenplanet7767]

It should be made a crime ... the average person would be facing consequences for lying to the government or HMRC etc ... fines, stripped from office, the only way they may start to behave the way we expect them to.

[@philwoodfordjjj8928]

It was a lie when Bojo first said it, it's a lie now. It's just that it's an accepted lie with no truth behind it or BS baffles brains and in this case there is little to go round.

[@johnwilletts3984]

We had all this a couple of years ago. In reality they planned to refurbish six hospitals and then provide seed funding to up to another 34. Seed funding covers only the cost of applying for refurbishment. Then one of the six hospitals in line for refurbishment is actually earmarked for reducing in size and the land sold to a property developer! The 40 new hospitals lie also appeared in the ‘Levelling Up’ white paper.

[@hs-pj8ho]

Horrendous how these people get away with these lies no accountability they think they are above everyday working people lying, breaking the law with there own policies, bullying list goes on & on.

[@farokudahitam]

Lying is the legacy of Boris.

[@charlescaudell9493]

Yes and a tally should be kept when a complete falsehood is given. This could then be used against those mp's who feel that lying to the nation is an everyday part of their job. Thanks Max for pointing out that liars feel more secure on the bbc and less likely to be called to account anywhere but parliament that is!

[@billseymour-jones3224]

You can always rely on the CON government: To lie, to lie and to lie. To u-turn, to u-turn and to u-turn. To blame everybody but themselves for their shortcomings. For institutionalised cronyism. For institutionalised self-serving.

[@Mateus-sz4je]

To be full of sexual deviants

[@peterjones596]

It's long been time to call out any politicians that lie, don't stand for it, heckle!

[@davidcameron8163]

You can tell when an mp is lying, thier lips move. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WVislandia]

Well done, Max, for making this public. It is so easy for others to ignore or not fact-check but at least you've made doing that impossible by publishing this video.

[@AliG-iq4gd]

You missed out the instructions to hospital trusts to call a new wing - a new hospital - which is most relevant.

[@thomasdunn3482]

Why doesn't anyone ask them to name these 40 new hospitals??

[@richardstrangward4372]

Unfortunately, even when a politician is caught out, far too many people say, “well, they all do the same” which passes as justification. People need to start call all politicians out when caught lying.

[@davesy6969]

The chairman of the BBC is a political appointee and a tory donor. The entire board is tory donors. They vet senior positions when recruiting so they pick biased sycophants.

[@sb8163]

"Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late" - Johnathan Swift

[@bannjaxx]

Hopefully they're out of power one year for each lie they told the public - I'll never see the tories again!

[@margaretmckay3328]

She has been a liar since her maiden speech at WM. Mendacious and thoroughly unpleasant.

[@MazzaEliLi7406]

On the subjects of hospitals which have been advised to prime their emergency generators this winter - yesterday, Centrica which owns British gas has (apparently) reopened a percentage of the gas storage facility that C & U Party closed on the grounds that the gas reserves that were sold off would not necessary. Question will this be enough to keep the lights on in operating theatres &/or schools this winter?

[@rocketscience4516]

That saying (a lie is...) has been around in one form or other for hundreds of years. Mark Twain borrowed it from earlier writers and popularised it.

[@moshudoduwade219]

When are politicians going to tell the truth?

[@matthewotooleis]

Fuck Question Time they made a star out of Farage.

[@neverman3398]

Even if there were 40 new hospitals, we have nobody to run them. 😂

[@bumblingborisbuffoon6259]

Shows how much of a lie it is, they are massively understaffed in the hospitals we currently have.

[@ilokivi]

This type of mendacious behaviour to persuade just enough people that there is a plan to persist in telling them that a hospital building plan exists despite all the evidence to the contrary, is why the UK needs stronger checks and balances on abuse of office as well as a ministerial code with the force of law enforced not by the head of government but by Parliament.

[@alansdorsetfossils4028]

I could be having an extension build until I see someone laying foundations or bricks it's not real. I rarely watch question time. They seem to rig the audience. A recent one from a strongly Brexit supporting area seems to have deliberately selected an audience on their Brexit supporting views. So lets say 70% voted leave so 70% of this audience would be selected that still supported leave. That's my understanding anyway. Would it not be more realistic to just throw open the doors to a quota from this area regardless of how they once voted. They can be asked if appropriate during live program whether they voted to leave.

[@geoffpoole483]

I think that's how it's done. It would be more realistic to have a quota as you suggest; there are times when a local issue is also a national issue.

[@DAVE3422460]

what a shock an MP lieing

[@rufus1346]

They only tell the truth when the truth is beneficial to them.