Total Tactics - How To: Gunpowder Formations | Total War: Warhammer 3

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@wilhelmrk
@wilhelmrk 2 жыл бұрын
In my current Empire Campaign I got around most of this by replacing my melee line with allied dwarven infantry Units who are small enough to be shot over from the back
@MrFreePoint
@MrFreePoint 2 жыл бұрын
This does actually work? Would be amazing
@wilhelmrk
@wilhelmrk 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrFreePoint It works on current patch. You can also do this as dwarves and buy Empire Handgunners who you can place behind your own gunners, creating a more compact firing line.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao that is hilarious! I love that that's a thing!
@monostorizsolt2472
@monostorizsolt2472 Жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 i think lead belchers in row 3 :)
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
@@monostorizsolt2472 lmao bro Dwarf Thunderers in front, Empire Handgunners second line and Ogre Leadbelchers as the third line?! Yes please take all of my money!!! Hahaha
@toshinakae6397
@toshinakae6397 2 жыл бұрын
big tip, deploy your artillery on the back left and back right flank. instead of having them target the infantry right in front of them, make them shoot across your formation to the other end, having the shots criss cross over your ranks. Especially useful with cannons. If you target the infantry directly in front, you wont have line of sight to arc your shots, as they are too close. If you shoot the front line on the other end of your formation, your shots will arc over your line, because you have enough distance. Works best in chevron formation too, as the enemy front line will be parallel to your cannons shot.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Omg that's such a good tip! Thanks bro I never would have thought of that!
@mattyman1241
@mattyman1241 2 жыл бұрын
I love these formations. Love being able to put real life tactics to use in the game. Thanks for the great ideas!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud glad you enjoyed it! I love how you can pull off things like this in these games too!
@CharliMorganMusic
@CharliMorganMusic 2 жыл бұрын
When you say "real life," I think about how even though the Empire and Clan Skrye are both gunpowder factions, one of them is playing pike and shot while the other is all the way up in 1917 with machine guns, snipers, and gas.
@thegamingwolf5612
@thegamingwolf5612 2 жыл бұрын
@@CharliMorganMusic I wouldn't consider steam tanks pike and shot lol
@jbr8278
@jbr8278 2 жыл бұрын
ye me too. I've been looking for videos such as this one !
@adamhenry3928
@adamhenry3928 Жыл бұрын
Too bad all this is just for roleplay 😂 one and only tww formation: corner camp
@seanedmondson2974
@seanedmondson2974 2 жыл бұрын
3 games in a row and this is the first time i've heard or seen good formations for gunpowder, i'd often just hope for a tall hill and awkwardly place my units there hoping LoS works on them, keep up the work
@trazyntheinfinite9895
@trazyntheinfinite9895 2 жыл бұрын
O.o yknow this vid here is a rehash if several toral warhammer 2 videos of tbe same kind, right?
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much bro! Glad this could helpful for you!
@user-td4gh6kj2z
@user-td4gh6kj2z 2 жыл бұрын
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 good to hear because it means you keep checking on this stuff as they update, since we all know how they like to make a nice mess of a good thing. This video is game changing for someone who literally just checkerboarded or put them on higher ground and hoped for LOS
@ChristianaWinters-pu3vw
@ChristianaWinters-pu3vw 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@freethinker9480
@freethinker9480 2 жыл бұрын
I knew about checker board and myself had naturally been using something similar to the horse killing diamond when needed but that chevron thing man. I'm gonna go check that you with some grand cathay
@josephdoria5237
@josephdoria5237 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished my second-ever total war campaign as Kislev and I really like using the checkerboard formation with armored kossars. The fact that they’re a hybrid unit means that they can cover each other with pistol-fire when in melee and can be swapped-out whenever their health or ammo gets too low.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Kislev would be great with these! Streltsi and Armoured Kossars make a great combo together
@Brettman04
@Brettman04 2 жыл бұрын
This is very useful. My favorite factions are powder ones like dawi and empire.
@damonvi013
@damonvi013 Жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 10 months late, but i did exactly this on my Boris Realm of Chaos campaign. first time i've ever beaten Realm of Chaos to the end, usually i play IE until i burn out. found out about checkerboard from a different tww3 vid, and decided to try it. once you get armored kossars, this tactic is never not used. pair AKs with regular Kossars, and you have the ol' 2 layer front line with bows in the back. once you get strelsti, true checkerboard goes ham. and if you can add tsar guard, your first line becomes immovable, and usually your back row runs out of ammo before any of your units break, if the enemy doesnt just army-loss mass route (besides them damn demons, which i also play). made me sad though, because kislev became really rinse-repeat every fight, and battles werent very fun to play out. in fact, that's why i just rushed Bel'lakor and beat the campaign, cuz it got boring as i swept all the way to Cathay with no issue (i let the AI keep the Ice Court so i wouldnt have to micromanage both sides of the map)
@deevee5327
@deevee5327 2 жыл бұрын
"This formation will be weak to artillery fire" *Shows the formation getting indeed hit by artillery, except it's his own units friendly-firing each other* Not sure if intentional, but I laughed a lot at that. That aside, great video. Sending this to my buddy who just got the game and never played anything similar.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao that was a bit... unintentionally intentional 😂 I didn’t mean for my own guys to get blown up but when editing I was like “well... gets the point across here” hahaha
@TheTocoTV
@TheTocoTV 2 жыл бұрын
Please make this a series. Well done and comprehensive.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I definitely plan on doing more like this, are there any particular topics you'd like to see covered?
@alexsawchuk5371
@alexsawchuk5371 2 жыл бұрын
I agree this was incredibly well done, maybe on the next one you could do one on proper hammer and anvil Calvary use, I get the idea but I can never seem to pull it off without like, 5 - 10 models getting stuck and drawing the rest of the unit back in or dying uselessly
@paradoxington
@paradoxington 2 жыл бұрын
I would love, perhaps, a full series from you dedicated to using, breaking down, and understanding legitimate formations and battle tactics for Total War Warhammer. Especially when you start covering the very real weaknesses of these formations with things like magic, hero units, monsters, and so on, I can imagine some very awesome battles ensuing, especially in multiplayer
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds amazing and is definitely something I want to look into with this series. It'll be really interesting to see how different real world tactics can be applied to this
@codysmith66
@codysmith66 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I knew about the classic Checkerboard formation from the many other total war youtubers I've watched, but the next two were totally new to me and now I can't wait to put them into action.
@KaiReel23
@KaiReel23 2 жыл бұрын
diamond formation wont work in multiplayer. A thinking person will either avoid your melle and go for the ranged or avoid the sides and charge into one of the infantry.
@KaiReel23
@KaiReel23 2 жыл бұрын
Same problem with chevron formation( but less dire, since you CAN divide chevrons and face them to the sides ). The enemy can avoid the kill zones. There is no need to charge your line. Just overload one flank, while sending some chaff units in the middle... or dont. Empire will have to react and reposition to answer the flanks aggression and absence of enemy in the middle. Overloading one flank and ignoring the other will render 1/3 of gunline useless.
@Freekymoho
@Freekymoho 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaiReel23 i think the point of this was obviously for campaign. Also the whole point of the diamond is to bait your opponent into going for the ranged units
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
@Alekir This wasn't done for multiplayer
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
@Cody Smith Bro I'm so glad you were able to take away some new ideas from this! Please let me know if they work out for you! :D
@gregoryhayes7569
@gregoryhayes7569 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I love playing gunpowder factions. Line of sight is such an interesting limitation to work around.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! It's so awesome when you get them working effectively. And it looks epic!
@mikedangerdoes
@mikedangerdoes Жыл бұрын
The tip about how to select units and place them is a godsend. I feel like I've been playing way to long to not know how to do this.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Glad I could be of help bro! It’s amazing how much depth these games have
@blackrazorfilms
@blackrazorfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I loved your mention of the use of square formation for more quickly maneuverable units, its something I do but I feel is often overlooked. Can't wait for more.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much bro! Yeah it’s not something I see mentioned too often but it’s such a life saver when something gets behind your lines isn’t it? Glad you enjoyed the vid! Are there any other ideas you’d like to see done?
@MaSOneTwo
@MaSOneTwo 2 жыл бұрын
It's also much better if the enemy has much stronger melee troops than you have as it reduces the number of models in contact and can therefore prolong the inevitable.
@blackrazorfilms
@blackrazorfilms 2 жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 A cavalry episode would be interesting if you use any tricks for them
@Voltron4ev4
@Voltron4ev4 Жыл бұрын
I have been playing TWW for years and never really invested any time into watching these guides, but I found this one particularly helpful. Thanks!
@taw386
@taw386 2 жыл бұрын
The anti-cavalry diamond is a new concept to me, but one I eagerly look forward to trying. Thanks for the insight.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers bud! It's super fun to use every once in a while and it just looks epic as well. Let me know how it works out for you!
@worldlylexicon671
@worldlylexicon671 2 жыл бұрын
wow this was really informative! Thanks man. Never wanted to play "not orcs" this much
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I mean Green is best after all! Thanks so much bud glad you enjoyed it!
@GalaxyEighty
@GalaxyEighty 2 ай бұрын
Oh this is lovely! I tried the chevrons and checkerboard as vampire coast and they work wonderfully. Thank you!
@mr.slid-er7165
@mr.slid-er7165 2 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of played hours in this game, so I didn’t see anything new for myself. But at the same time, I want to say that I have definitely never seen a video with such content. It will definitely be useful for all beginners. Especially for those who play on a low difficulty, to move to a higher one. I wish the author good luck and success in this direction.
@raido1000
@raido1000 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this, going to take it to my gunpowder kislev mod and hold the line against the hordes
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it and dude Kislev is gonna rock with these formations, Streltsi are so badass!
@miloradlukic9277
@miloradlukic9277 2 жыл бұрын
Kossars in checkerboard are also disgustingly good, since first row of units is almost unbreakable
@Project129
@Project129 2 жыл бұрын
I had been woefully unaware of the diamond formation, but I was aware of the other two. Very informational and I am glad to see how you handled showing the actual formations both in setup and in motion so people could better understand how and why things work.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it bud! I was a little worried it wouldn't be too clear but it's good to hear that it was informative!
@Akahara777
@Akahara777 Жыл бұрын
MY GOD! i played for about 500 hours of TWwarhammer , and didn't even know about the way to make line order through contol+pick. i thought this order reffers to unit list order only... Its has no ingame clues, and i literally had no chance to notice mysel, through my placement style... Man, thank you, you literaly a blessing.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Haha bro I'm so happy to have been helpful! It really is crazy how much depth this game has but yeah also unfortunate it doesn't exactly tell you a whole lot. Glad to have been of service bud!
@Ne1vaan
@Ne1vaan 2 жыл бұрын
Useful. I wasn't really familiar with the diamond, will have to experiment with it. Try countering some of the inflexibility of chevrons by keeping your missing units in squares inside the gaps, allowing them to rotate a little bit better.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really good tip! I'll definitely keep that in mind when I use a chevrons formation in the future, that should be a huge help. And yeah the diamond is just good fun, I don't use it too often but it's saved me a couple of times and looks epic
@esotericwarrior7261
@esotericwarrior7261 2 жыл бұрын
This is the content I'm looking for. Good stuff please give us even more. Formations and stuff is my favorite part of this game
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Haha awesome! Thanks so much my dude I'm really glad you enjoyed it! I'm really interested in seeing what other kinds of formations can work, definitely gonna be working on some more vids like this one
@BDNeon
@BDNeon 2 жыл бұрын
3:13 God damnit rockets, stop helping!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao when recording this there were a couple of moments where I was thinking "damnit I should have used some Volley Guns..."
@theshadow6088
@theshadow6088 Жыл бұрын
I saw this video today and of course immediately went to test these formations and leading values behind them for myself with immense success! My battles feel much more intense and satisfying and it's all thanks to you and this series! thanks!
@theshadow6088
@theshadow6088 Жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to using some of your more complicated formations and tactics in the future, I can't wait :D
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Hey that's awesome to hear bro! I'm so glad these have been useful for you and helping you out in your games! Cheers bro, it really means a lot getting a comment like this!
@rolandsbreza7448
@rolandsbreza7448 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to see more formation videos like this that would focus on other things as well
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I definitely have more planned for things like this, are there any things in particular you'd like to see covered?
@CyBerCat6410
@CyBerCat6410 3 сағат бұрын
The checkerboard formation is a must for Empire or Dwarfs... its absolutely helped alot on the battlefield!
@discountplaguedoctor88
@discountplaguedoctor88 2 жыл бұрын
If you're playing as Kislev, you can approach these formations a bit more casually, considering that most of their infantry do double duty as both ranged and melee, up until you run into a faction that fields a lot of cavalry (ESPECIALLY ranged cavalry). The reason for this is that, without mercenaries being brought in from allies, Kislev's entire roster have a total of only two infantry with anti-large attacks in melee (in vanilla AND OUTSIDE OF THE PROLOGUE CAMPAIGN) in the form of kossars with spears and Ice Guard with glaives, and neither of those units come with shields.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
A Kislevite Gunline would be really cool, they'd be able to make really effective use out of it. I've also had huge success with a stack of Ice Guard Glaives arranged in a checkerboard formation, absolutely brutal
@DrClownPhD
@DrClownPhD 8 ай бұрын
This has leveled up my formation understanding. God bless you this may be what I've needed this whole time for Empire, Dwarves and Vampire Coast
@ianm1462
@ianm1462 2 жыл бұрын
Great video - still learning formation shortcuts 600 hours in. This was really helpful!
@MikeMayneOfficial
@MikeMayneOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Same and I played 1-3 😂
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm really glad it could help you out!
@Menleah
@Menleah Жыл бұрын
Totally helpful! Thank you. Six hundred-ish hours in to this franchise and I still found useful info. TW III is shaping up to be my favorite of the series and I know it's only going to improve these next few years.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Happy to help bro and thank you for watching! It's amazing how much depth there is in this game isn't it? I can't wait it's just gonna get better and better! Cheers bud!
@Menleah
@Menleah Жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 I'm sure I'll pick up all of the DLC, one at a time. I used to table top WH in the late 80's; $10 for a pack of five figures (so, like $25 back then), so $10-15 for a DLC feels like a steal by comparison. :-) Look forward to checking out more of your vids!
@brainjar14
@brainjar14 2 жыл бұрын
You can still use squares for your ranged units in chevron, to maintain their mobility. Because units ignore their own entities for line of sight there's no real advantage to spreading them thin (except perhaps for having a wider angle of fire for fast movers and fliers.)
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really good point! I'll definitely doing that in future uses thanks!
@DennisMHamm
@DennisMHamm 2 жыл бұрын
Hervorragend! Mit Schießpulvereinheiten hatte ich bisher die größten Probleme sie effektiv einzusetzen so dass ich eher auf Armbrüste gegangen bin. Jetzt kenne ich endlich die richtigen Formationen und freu mich darauf sie auszuprobieren. Der Dank des Imperators sei Euch gewiss!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm glad this was able to help you out! Crossbows are pretty good but now you'll be getting your handgunners shooting effectively you're gonna see a huge difference! Cheers buddy!
@OniGanon
@OniGanon 2 жыл бұрын
You can try setting up your melee infantry into long thin columns rather than the typical rows. So long as the gap between units isn't too large you don't get surrounded and the ranged units behind have good line of sight. It's a bit like checkerboard.
@Astrothunderkat
@Astrothunderkat 2 жыл бұрын
Thin lines get blown through, square do not
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Okay I see what you're saying, like a deeper, stretched sorta checkerboard then right?
@OniGanon
@OniGanon 2 жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 Well, the ranged units can be in squares or rows, only the melee goes in columns. So it doesn't really look like a checkerboard at that point. The idea is that the ranged unit can shoot on either side of the melee unit in front of it.
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 жыл бұрын
@@OniGanon Also, the deeper the melee unit, the less models are in contact with the enemy, and therefore the less damage they are taking (as well as dealing) at any time. Plus, they hold the enemy further away from the ranged units. Since we want to deal damage by shooting, this is ideal.
@Mkoivuka
@Mkoivuka 2 жыл бұрын
I have thousands of hours in total war titles and this is the best overview on formations I've seen, good job!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! That's high praise indeed I really appreciate it!
@neweden.
@neweden. 2 жыл бұрын
these formations only work in singleplayer. Because AI will just order the melee infantry to attack whatever is the closest, if you fight against a human they can walk through those gaps with ease.
@moviebad109
@moviebad109 2 жыл бұрын
By micromanaging and setting individual orders for each unit as they approach the gap. Sapping their attention at a critical moment and opening up a counterattack opportunity. Not to mention that you can shift the infantry formation left or right as they approach and cut off their attempt. They definitely could get through with enough determination. But doing so is going to require a lot of coordination and micromanagement. And every moment you have to them focused where you want, you can punish them for it.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
@NewEden yeah this wasn't done with multiplayer in mind
@gregoryhayes7569
@gregoryhayes7569 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, against other humans you'd need a more sophisticated echelon formation.
@svellarch8830
@svellarch8830 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this!!! I love gunpowder units but feel I underutilize them greatly and struggle a lot. I can't wait to try these formations.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
No problem at all bud glad I could help! Let me know how they work out for you :)
@malcolmobrien1558
@malcolmobrien1558 2 жыл бұрын
Gave my friend half my army after setting up in chevron formation without explaining. He broke formation right after the battle started and we got smashed cause we didn't coordinate. But this is brutally effective! And I finally have a video to send him that explains why. Thanks and much love
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Haha gotta whip your buddy into shape! Glad you enjoyed this my dude and I hope it helps you guys out! Cheers bro!
@SerDinadan
@SerDinadan 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the concise explanations highlighting the pros and cons of each formation.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it and glad I wasn't rambling on haha
@Theoreticaly
@Theoreticaly 2 ай бұрын
I'm not quite done with the Prologue yet, but I hadn't even thought about the fact that of course rifles don't shoot their missiles in an arc like archers do xD I appreciate the many little ways in which the game(s) choose to make things work logically/believably; there's a level of depth to combat I hadn't expected. Interesting video. I'll have to give these formations a try.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 ай бұрын
Oh man I'm right there with you, going into this I knew these games had depth but had no idea just how in depth they could get. Hope this helps you out bud and be sure to check out my other stuff for more ideas!
@EnderGraff1
@EnderGraff1 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I love the empire precisely because they can use formations like this with strong gunpowder and cav units.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers bud! Yeah the Empire is amazing, they've got such a great array of units and tools for different situations
@Jixxor
@Jixxor 2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty cool content. The biggest point I disliked about gunners was how they became basically useless after the melee started, because I usually do the whole "place them in front of melee, then retreat them" approach. I tried running them to flanks when possible, to shoot at units from the side or even rear, but with flying units, monsters, cavalry and quick lords on the battlefield I am usually hesitant to try this since the AI really loves sending their quick stuff around my melee to kill the rangeds. This seems like a very smart and also visually pretty pleasant way to fix this issue. Edit: the timing at 2:58 cracked me up lol. "they can be vulnerable to artillery fire" just as your own artillery blasts them apart.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had that problem too, was always wary about putting them off to the flanks as they'd just get jumped on by whatever fast nastiness the enemy had. And omg I had to laugh when I realized my artillery was blowing up my own troops, made for a perfect little edit though
@sladewilson8961
@sladewilson8961 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! The slow voice is perfect to get everything you say when we aren't good english speaker. Thank you 🙏
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm glad it was accessible for you and hope it helps you out!
@Joebaseball-qp2nk
@Joebaseball-qp2nk 9 ай бұрын
Nodding and giving grunts of understanding I felt so smart when i started putting little gaps in my infantry line for my gunners as cannons to shoot through and now i see there is some real magic that standing in one spot can do
@marekvareka4242
@marekvareka4242 2 жыл бұрын
Checkerboard sounds like the best option for me. Thank you for this video
@gazpachosam1368
@gazpachosam1368 Жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but wanted to say this video was great! Effective formations, beautiful in their simplicity. Played a campaign as Kislev, someone else mentioned them in the comments and they really are a perfect faction to utilize these tactics, but I kept running into the issue where I treated gunpowder units just like archers and then got confused when they weren’t arcing their bullets. Maybe that’s because I’m something of a Skaven appreciator, and on inspection my dead skavenslaves somehow had more entry wounds than exit wounds in their backs. :)
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Haha sounds like those Skavenslaves were doing a fantastic job and earned their warpstone bullet. I mean bonus! Yes-yes! I'm super glad you enjoyed the vid bud and that it was able to help you out! Thanks so much for watching and the kind words, I really appreciate it :)
@Campfire_Bandit
@Campfire_Bandit 2 жыл бұрын
Best direct fire guide on KZbin, love the content!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that bro!
@evilhistory970
@evilhistory970 8 ай бұрын
Великолепное видео. Большое спасибо.
@Watchyourselvez
@Watchyourselvez 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I've had alot of trouble using guns after the melee has started
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
No problem my dude hope this helps you out!
@scribblerstudios9895
@scribblerstudios9895 Жыл бұрын
A tactic I use Gunner units for is flank shredders. Let the frontlines engage, try to wrap up most if not all of the enemy forces, and then use the guns to rake the enemy sides. It leaves them open to potential retaliation but it does do plenty of damage when done right Edit: Aaaaand the chevron covers more or less my idea with more protection for the unit. Fair enough
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Haha well moving them around once the lines engage is definitely a bit less involved then setting up the Chevrons, still totally valid bud!
@scribblerstudios9895
@scribblerstudios9895 Жыл бұрын
Admittedly I haven't played in a while after the whole fiasco with the pricing and such, so my micro, which wasn't exactly good to begin with, is probably even worse XD actually developed the idea in my head after watching some of the tactics used for Napoleon total war, where essentially it was the bull horns tactic followed by a closing of the envelope. Otherwise I prefer nice solid hill camping otherwise XD
@warhound8496
@warhound8496 2 жыл бұрын
Wow ! That’s gonna help me a lot in battle,thank you ! I was struggling with gunpowder units in the past.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
That's great! I'm super glad to hear that bro! Let me know how it goes!
@topoficacion
@topoficacion Жыл бұрын
Great to see your hellstorm rocket batteries also love to hit your own units.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Lmao I'd imagine the survivors wouldn't be too happy with the artillery crew after that
@taffelost6221
@taffelost6221 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Opens up a new philosophy to battle formations for me.
@soupsandwich5598
@soupsandwich5598 4 ай бұрын
I’m new to grand strategy games and I love warhammer so I really appreciate your advice
@KookueCachoo
@KookueCachoo 10 ай бұрын
I wish I had seen this video when doing my Cathay campaign. Great video!
@michaelb-n8q
@michaelb-n8q Жыл бұрын
Great work my friend. I've been using vamp coast a lot and have so much trouble with the right formations for my gunners. I appreciate this work. Got yourself a new sub too.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much bro! Vamp Coast works so well with these tactics and those battles always look so cool too. I really appreciate it bud cheers!
@JonnyAndreHenningsen
@JonnyAndreHenningsen Жыл бұрын
freaking awesome love it, been struggeling soo much with range in warhammer 3, gonna try this out for sure. it was a very good watch and strait to the point.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much bro! Glad you enjoyed it and hope it helps you out! Let me know how you fare in your campaigns!
@jjjohnsen4455
@jjjohnsen4455 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Would you please do more of them?. Super helpful for learning the tactics of the game!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'd absolutely love to do more of these kinds of vids! Are there any things in particular you'd like to see covered?
@jjjohnsen4455
@jjjohnsen4455 2 жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 Honestly, I just suck so any of these types of videos are great. I've been trying to use bretonnia lately and cav is a pain to micro. I did play some empire after watching this vid though and the formations really helped! I just think tw 3 needs more tutorial type vids. Thanks for this!
@ColonelTacki
@ColonelTacki 2 жыл бұрын
Setting up some of these formations takes some effort, but it feels really good crushing the enemy with them. Thanks for sharing!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s one thing with them, they can be a bit tedious to set up sometimes, especially if you’re doing a lot of battles. Glad you enjoyed them though bud! Cheers
@chrisp5093
@chrisp5093 10 ай бұрын
The "wow" at 5:46 was legendary and meme-worthy. 😂 Also, loved the video. Straight to the point.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 10 ай бұрын
Lmao I was saying "well" but I guess the microphone didn't pick it up properly, glad you enjoyed it though bro!
@KerrickS
@KerrickS 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, clear, concise and helpful! Please make more!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you liked it! Ask and ye shall receive haha I just released a new one on Cavalry!
@ShadowNetWeaver1
@ShadowNetWeaver1 2 жыл бұрын
I knew about the first two, but that diamond formation is just diabolical
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Haha absolutely bro I hope you'll be able to get some good use out of it! It's a super fun tactic to make use of every once in a while
@stepanivanov2573
@stepanivanov2573 Жыл бұрын
Wow, these formation are so cool! Great work on this video
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much bud! Glad you enjoyed them!
@jthescruff
@jthescruff 8 ай бұрын
I'm giving a like simply for the chevron formation! Genius!
@gerry919
@gerry919 2 жыл бұрын
The last one is really interesting need to test it! Thank you for this very well made Video.
@stilish9912
@stilish9912 Жыл бұрын
so simple and optimized way about how to make formation. nice.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bud! Glad you enjoyed it!
@alpha-0874
@alpha-0874 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, the tips for how to easily setup a checkerboard are very useful.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
No problem bud! Thanks for watching!
@MisterGame68
@MisterGame68 Жыл бұрын
Actually very interesting, i've tried the checkerboard formation a few times myself, but i'll get sure to give the others a try too, i'm always amazed how a good tactic can win me a "Close/Valiant defeat".
@AndreNMailho
@AndreNMailho 2 жыл бұрын
I love these tactics videos. It reminds me of the good old days of Warhammer 1. Great video friend.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers bud! Glad you enjoyed this! I hope to do more of these types of videos soon
@Andrezcar
@Andrezcar 2 жыл бұрын
Man I hope to see more of you, first time I see a person not screaming like a b*tch, taking the game seriously and clearly-patienly explaining the game mechanics and strategies, this made me go to play more, many thanks!
@000585677
@000585677 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this! I have used checkerboard to some effect before but this is fantastic
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
No problem bud glad you enjoyed it!
@Shiftry87
@Shiftry87 5 ай бұрын
3:12 That rocket battery sure as hell dident care about friendly fire like the handgunners.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 5 ай бұрын
Lmao It was too perfect I just had to leave it in
@eduardomacedo8937
@eduardomacedo8937 Жыл бұрын
Great Formations tips! I'll surely put it in practice
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Hope they work out well for you bud!
@franzsanders9573
@franzsanders9573 7 ай бұрын
This is excellent! Thank you! Do you think you could also do a version of this that specifically labels each section of the formations so it’s easier to figure out where to put your units?
@KashouWannabe
@KashouWannabe 26 күн бұрын
Two years on and still helpful, thank you! Also 21,000st like apparently.
@MorlockTheLegend
@MorlockTheLegend 2 жыл бұрын
I started a Sartosa campaign yesterday, it's time for new formations. Thank you!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! The Vampire Coast factions make for some seriously epic gun lines I hope these help! Cheers bro
@raizer835
@raizer835 2 жыл бұрын
Pls do more of these Formation Videos. I think a lot of people are really interested in it and people are really desperate for informative WH3 Content as we can see on your Channel. Keep up your work 🙌
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely will my dude! Thanks so much for the support! Are there any particular topics you'd like to see covered in future videos?
@raizer835
@raizer835 2 жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 I personally would love so see a roster ranking for factions because there are so many factions with a ton of different troops where it is difficult to know which are better to recruit then others. I've only seen that for WH2 but in WH3 a lot changed. Or maybe also tactics for different faction rosters because nearly every faction has to be played in a different way in terms of tactics. The Dwarfs for example have pretty slow troops and no cavalry where the empire has good cavalry and so different tactics can be applied. Also some have big monsters others not.
@SnatchMeese
@SnatchMeese 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool formations. Thank you for sharing!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers bro glad you found it interesting!
@agitogacha
@agitogacha 8 ай бұрын
This was really informative. Awesome Stuff!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much bro glad you enjoyed it!
@tforkbeard
@tforkbeard 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I was clueless until I came across this. Great resource.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! Glad you enjoyed it and I hope it helps you out!
@ldxtr9050
@ldxtr9050 Жыл бұрын
thanks, will try this in Empire TW
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'd imagine these will work even better in Empire!
@nathanaelmaugre7824
@nathanaelmaugre7824 2 жыл бұрын
Well, first time I see those strategies! Awesome and clever👌
@arturo_cruz
@arturo_cruz 2 жыл бұрын
nice video, one formation that i enjoy using is just to have a break in the middle of my line where my heroes or LL fight tarpit units, basically making a kill box in the centre of my formation. It's best to use a limited amount of gun units, because 2-4 guns shooting the entire battle is better than having 6-8 not shooting optimally.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really good method! Really lets you concentrate your firepower effectively I like it. Cheers bro!
@Haker423
@Haker423 Жыл бұрын
Good tactics. Got stuck on a second one but now you enlighted me. Thanks
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro glad it could help you out! :D cheers!
@k.m.6265
@k.m.6265 2 жыл бұрын
the diamond was one i wasnt expecting, and i love the Dwarfs. V useful
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Haha no one expects the Dwarven Anti-Cav Diamond! I love those grumpy little beard boys as well, they're such a great defensive faction. Cheers bud!
@AverySadBear
@AverySadBear 2 жыл бұрын
The kind of video the main character of an anime remembers when they get trucked to another world. (great video gave me some ideas for vampire coast gunlines.)
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao next thing you know they're getting burned at the stake because they built a toaster and terrified the local peasants
@rorus9530
@rorus9530 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this fantastic video. Concise, informative and to the point, just the way I like it.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it bud! Thank you for watching!
@ravioliraver2068
@ravioliraver2068 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, one tip, I use them in a stretched battle line hiding behind infantry on the edges to clear the flanks collapsing both flanks far left and right allowing my infantry to route them. Works wonders with flame throwers too
@doomslayer9257
@doomslayer9257 2 жыл бұрын
How do you have line of sight if they are behind infantry?
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty cool method, using the Handgunners to envelop the enemy's flanks with enfilading fire, I like it! Cheers bud!
@ravioliraver2068
@ravioliraver2068 2 жыл бұрын
@@doomslayer9257 once the infantry engages you wrap the gunpowder/flanethrower troops around each flank, holding a cavalry or infantry back to protect to protect the flank of them from cavalry. It's a very basic easy to implement strategy for beginners
@ravioliraver2068
@ravioliraver2068 2 жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 thank you very much I appreciate it, keep up the good content :)
@catnipflowers5803
@catnipflowers5803 Жыл бұрын
I didnt understand how to properly use gunpowder formations. My empire games were crippled by that little fact. So, to test these video's tactics i went to go get Ghal Maraz in the quest battle and it worked wonderfully. thanks, i needed this advice.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm so glad this was able to help you out! Cheers bro hope the rest of your battles go well too!
@itsnotbloodborne1237
@itsnotbloodborne1237 10 ай бұрын
epic arty misfire at 3:07 xD love this vid, reference it often!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 10 ай бұрын
Haha it was just too good I had to keep it in! Cheers bro glad it's been helpful for you!
@roupiozclement3501
@roupiozclement3501 2 жыл бұрын
All Classics already used and discovered for me on... Shogun 2. Thanks for the great video and reminder ;)
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Haha classic! Cheers bro!
@gohomehero
@gohomehero 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be using that diamond formation from now on! Thank you!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Yusss awesome! Glad you enjoyed it hope it helps you out! It's a really fun tactic to make use of every once in a while
@MatthewBrown-yu1hs
@MatthewBrown-yu1hs 2 жыл бұрын
Pragmatic and very to the point, excellent video tutorial
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thanks so much bro!
@Costin_Gaming
@Costin_Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. What formation do you think would be good for a heavy cav army like Bretonnia?
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers my dude! Cavalry tactics are definitely something I'm gonna be looking into, off the top of my head I can definitely see Bretonnian armies making good use of the Oblique Order, using a small holding force of peasants to hold one side of the battle line while concentrating the cavalry on the other side to overwhelm it. Cavalry tactics is something I'm really keen to learn more of and see what can be put into practice
@RealEscado
@RealEscado 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was some good input even for seasoned players
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers bud glad you liked it!
@foxxo1928
@foxxo1928 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I myself use a different style of the checkerboard formation. When you got kinda trash infantry in the frontline that would be slaughtered by the enemy it helps to spread your infantry in a narrow line where only a few models stand in the front taking damage.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean like making their frontage more narrow so there are less models in contact with the enemy? That's a really cool way to mitigate damage!
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 I agree. I usually go for squares because they look cool, but it's the same basic principle. Gunpowder will win the day!
@foxxo1928
@foxxo1928 2 жыл бұрын
@@MalleusGaming57 Exactly. The way AI aggro works is that even if only a few models make contact with your frontline the whole unit will stop. Causing the AI to blob up and having a pretty wide open side for you to shoot into.
@ghost9012
@ghost9012 Жыл бұрын
Great video, directly understood it and even saying what the key combos are to move your army so that they hold the formation, never heard it mentioned by other youtubers! I'm a relatively new player (51h in) and this helped me a lot understandig checkerboard formation and i think it will be very useful for my ikrit campaign yes yes!
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Cheers bud! Glad this was helpful for you and that you enjoyed it! As a newer player are there any other things you’d like to see covered?
@Hathsin
@Hathsin 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great guide. You have a voice for this work.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers bro! That's super nice of you to say, thank you so much!
@IAmTheStig32
@IAmTheStig32 2 жыл бұрын
The diamond formation is genius. I've subscribed.
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much JJ! I wish I could offer you some pictures of Spiderman in return! Haha cheers bro I appreciate the sub :)
@naefelia5187
@naefelia5187 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the tips.
@ilof_0
@ilof_0 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much. please more of these tactic videos! :)
@MalleusGaming57
@MalleusGaming57 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching bro! Check out my Total Tactics playlist on my channel page for more if you haven't already :) Cheers bud!
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