Total War: ROME Remastered Campaign - GREEK CITIES - Part 1: Sparta Rises!

[@Norovo]

The Roman leader really thought he had plot armour... Campaign playlist here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bp68nWCMa92Ke6M

[@xDiranx]

yo, my man,. where de next part at. dont you be gettin flaky on me yo

[@nevillelongbottom7687]

what a great channel :) really like this stuff and the HOMM videos are the best.

[@ХорхеГарсия-э5е]

Sparta starting without walls is historically accurate I guess

[@sweatilaa5325]

Funny how they decided to go with historically accurate no wall Sparta and how they then said “fuck it, let’s go with Bronze Age Egypt lol.”

[@Nicator_]

@@sweatilaa5325 It's not like making Sparta start without walls is a massive, gamechanging commitment, given that you can build them immediately. I don't think they were really trying to improve the accuracy of the game, just add a tiny interesting detail.

[@dubuyajay9964]

It is. They would say their spears are their walls.

[@littlefinger5812]

hahaha great comment!

[@lordadorable1140]

@@sweatilaa5325 Are you kidding. It can’t be Rome total war without Egypt ousting their Greek masters and going back to what made them an empire

[@CommanderNissan]

It’s funny that the Athenians went straight for your Spartan core. Like “we may be dying today, but we’re killing as many Spartans as possible!”

[@lethrington]

What an excellent excuse for you to make us more Rome content. Love it.

[@alexandreseverV]

This is what i was waiting for!

[@classifiedforlife.1466]

Imagine being a rebel and not being happy that you're down to 69

[@paulholman2841]

I wish I was here when you fist began the game. I would've suggested to you a strategy that essentially makes all the hellenic factions impervious to enemy urban offensives. This means that you could've employed only militia hoplites to guard your cities, and they would've beaten an enemy 2x or even 3x larger, almost every time. This strategy would've saved untold thousands of denarii, and allowed you to field at least one more full army on the map. The hoplites are unmatched in urban combat, in this game.

[@askthepizzaguy]

I liked the opening move of treating diplomacy as something that is intended to serve a short term interest, like gaining more money. The factions in this game particularly on the hardest difficulties do not form agreements that are worth the parchment. Alliances at perfect relations and perfect reputation will end and they'll invade you without warning whether you share a border or not, so you generally have to treat all borders as hostile and prepare for invasion. I close off all the bridges by using forts in front that they have to take first, and then I have an army on the bridge that cannot be defeated. I let them take the fort since forts are worthless for defense and create a choke point they have to funnel out of just to attack you, similar to a bridge. Or I sit on the bridge and wait, with long range archers and/or long range horse archers, phalanxes or other useful melee infantry, and some cavalry to mop up routers, typically just a general. I make trade agreements since it benefits my merchants and I get an income bonus due to trade. I sell maps, I sell trade rights, I sell peace, I sell alliances, I sell anything that can drain the treasury of any faction and add to my own. Then I go about my business noting none of the agreements I have sold will do anything to stop a war, and I make ready for said war, using the money from negotiation to bolster my defenses, or offenses if applicable. My initial goal is to create a defensible set of borders. Provinces with choke points in mountains, bridges, bodies of water acting as barriers for land armies, places I can slow down invaders and defeat them easily with equal numbers, particularly bridge crossings. I then set up watchtowers and forts so I can see invaders and slow them down before they reach my defensive choke point, and then I hold the choke. Once they lose their invasion armies to the choke, it will take them many turns to replace those armies, so they're at their weakest without losing territories. At that point, I am at my maximum strength and I counter-invade. I pick off any place without strong garrisons and then I surround their largest remaining army in whatever fort or settlement and starve them out while they have no siege relief forces, assuming they lost most of their army in the invasion and the other, weaker provinces. I enslave to make sure my cities have enough population for building higher tier units, and then I just exterminate most of the time to maintain the public order at home (too many slaves / population causes public order issues) and in the captured settlement, which won't resist well after an extermination order. Then it's easy to win the war since it snowballs. More and more funds from conquering and sacking cities means more money for more troops. The war is basically over once their initial invasion of my territory fails, since they spent a lot of money making those armies and it takes time to replace them and create the funds needed to make even bigger armies. Meanwhile my counterattack only ever grows in strength, and it continues until I have found my next strong border to properly defend. The defensive war never ends, it only pauses. Diplomats maximize my income during the pauses. That's basically all diplomacy is, a means of making money from your neighbors between their attempts to backstab you, since they will never ever stop trying to backstab you. When viewed under such a lens, diplomacy has a use, an important use. But we must never pretend these agreements mean you're not constantly at war. The AI is incapable of actual peace, they're at their most peaceful when at war with a different neighbor that is going poorly, and your own border with them is defended well. That's as close as you ever get to a peace.

[@hukutka94]

I am waiting for years for LegendOfTotalWar to make some videos with greeks or gauls campaign, at least I have finally found some nice player, who will show me how the Greece can be made great! Thanks for this campaign, much love to you!

[@bart4277]

Very keen for this ✌

[@xDrUmSt1X]

your voice is so pleasant to listen to

[@MrColejacobs]

Very skilled Total War player. You are entertaining and informative!

[@Albtraum_TDDC]

Why you don't enslave cities? It gives some extra trade resources and you get +0.5% growth in all connected cities. Also disperses population to your other settlements (that have less unrest). Also, when you have a unit on the walls, you can move around and take over the towers all around the city, so they don't fire on you and they fire on the enemies. You could have moved your Spartans to take the other gate that killed so much of your army when they went through.

[@user-qo5co8sp9q]

It feels morally wrong you know?

[@Albtraum_TDDC]

@@user-qo5co8sp9q still, better than exterminate. It's not really enslavement either. Mostly it is just relocation.

[@matthewzacher8879]

The irony of a Greek campaign with a secondary goal of financial dominance.

[@commandoslayer]

This game brings me nostalgia.

[@sirerot2130]

"Nike" is said "Nikae", i think in English Pronunciation is "Ne-key" In France, the city of "Nice" from that (Nicé), is Massilians (Phoceans) city (Hellenic people, like Greeks)

[@nervosadustbolt9642]

I thought it was Pronounced NIKE, like the shoe.. Since, NIKE in Greek means Victory?

[@sirerot2130]

@@nervosadustbolt9642 "Niki" is "Victory" but yes the 2 names have the same Greek root, it's the name of a Nymph of Greek Mythology "Nicae", for the pronunciation, what I gave you is the closest for an English speaker to pronounce, because the word is Latin, and therefore the sound "é" is more complicated to represent for the "Anglo-Saxon" people in writing.

[@NobleKorhedron]

For anyone reading this, I'm not sure the Thracian mercenaries and Mercenary peltasts are a great choice for any Roman players, but for most other factions, I'd recommend regularly using * Cretan archers * Rhodian slingers * Mercenary Peltasts * Bastarnae mercenaries Obviously the skirmisher missile troops are vulnerable to cavalry, but protect them from it like you're supposed to, and they'll do an excellent job. If you lack phalanx troops of your own, Mercenary hoplites are very useful, and are often good for the Greeks/Macedonians early on, as a better alternative to Milita hoplites. Regarding most non-Hellenic factions, I would also take these mercenaries for them as well. Romans won't really have a use for Mercenary peltasts, but if/when you're up against elephants, they do become useful. For non-Hellenic mercenaries, when not playing as the Romans, I would most often use * The mercenary javelinmen in Hispania (usually called Spanish mercenaries...?) * Mercenary war elephants * Numidian cavalry (mainly in Africa/southern Europe) * Baleric slingers * Sarmatian cavalry * Barbarian cavalry * Mercenary horse archers (mainly in NE Europe/Asia Minor)

[@erichroddewig5851]

Offer trade rights and map information, vs Tribute for 3 or 4 turn, you can get more gold. Like this. You might even ask for 700 for 4 turns

[@sweatilaa5325]

Glad I stumbled upon your channel a week ago. Was hoping you’d play the remaster as well since I’ve been so mentally exhausted lately so strategy games are out of the question. A bit disappointing that CA couldn’t be bothered to give the same treatment to those of us still playing the disk version as they did to those who own Rome on steam :/

[@lukasor8573]

It would be great if they did but think about it. Realisticaly there is no way for them to check if your copy is legit or not.

[@rehplica]

I’m late to this so you may already have figured out but if you still own the disc version you can redeem the code on the back of the manual within steam to add the Rome: Total War collection to your steam library, then you can preorder this at discounted rate. I had already preordered when I learnt of this, but was able to refund through steam and then reorder at the new price once I’d added my original disc version to my library. Don’t play PC games often myself but I had to jump back in for this, played this game so much back in the day.

[@sweatilaa5325]

@@rehplica oh, i did not know that. been using the disk whenever the Rome bug bit me over the years. just added the code from the manual and got the game on steam and got the discount as well. thank you for letting me know :D

[@jhnshep]

@@sweatilaa5325 Ahhh I think my copy of rome from when it first came out is long lost, changed continents three times since then, guess it's full price for me :-I

[@sweatilaa5325]

​@@jhnshep aw, my dude, i feel for you. my brother have been jumping continents as well so since he is older than me i got all the old PC games once he started moving around a lot some 7 years ago. luckily for me that meant he stopped playing games so i could use the Rome code. the great thing about being the younger brother was having the older ones buying all the games and i could play all i wanted with out paying anything :p

[@the_ogre1234]

Good video.

[@Dan-uf2vh]

omg they still haven't fixed city fight and formation mechanics, phalanxes still fumble and whirlpool in city streets

[@sweatilaa5325]

That sucks, was expecting more from this remaster :/ Feels like a pretty useless remaster if they didn’t fix city fights and formation mechanics to modern standards. They were fine back in the day but nowadays it looks lazy. But then again, CA has become kinda lazy since TenCent bought a whole lot of shares in them.

[@Norovo]

The official recommendation is to stick to "large" unit scale or below, which handle city fights better. I'm playing on huge unit scale here because I can't resist the bigger battles.

[@Dan-uf2vh]

@@Norovo my units are at the standard of 80 and it's very hard to have phalanxes retain the phalanx mode on streets

[@raidernation4life210]

Lmao how about the AI asking for trade then attacking on the same turn like bruh thats a thing? Lol

[@davidmuller811]

It would be cool If cretan archers could be recruited by greek cities

[@carltonbauheimer]

It's been a minute since I played BI. Do night battles actually give you some advantages, or do they just look cool?

[@sweatilaa5325]

Been a long time ago for me as well, last time I played was like a year after it released in CD. But I do remember it giving a bonus, think it was a hit to morale for the enemy. But I might be remembering it wrong. I always skipped night battles even though they gave a bonus and looked cool since the darkness made it more difficult do see what was happening and often ended up giving the AI the real bonus since the AI doesn’t rely on the old eyeballs to see what’s happening on the map.

[@lukasor8573]

They prevent any reinforcements from entering the battle

[@androot69]

Thanks for an intersting campaing. Just out of interest, did you try greek cities in rome2 on very hard?

[@GGMatt]

Maybe this is a hot take, but I do wish they'd have redesigned the layout of towns/cities just slightly for siege battles. I adore this game, but the path finding down the narrow roads is borderline comedy and makes for some awful gameplay. Even just something as simple as widening all the streets by 50% or adding more plaza type open areas so every battle isn't restricted to an alleyway. And of course it could just be made an option in the campaign settings at the start of a campaign rather than a mandatory change so everybody is happy.

[@MarcoAntonio-tb4gx]

Same here, in fact I exploit the sally mechanic because I hate siege battles

[@Connor_23]

How do you get the Spartan hoplites what level do you need to get the barracks’s

[@Spicecarius]

I nearly ALWAYS remove all my troops form Syracuse and just let Rome take it. Its much more efficient to not be fragmented at the start. Also with those troops it helps me take corinth and larisa fairly early.

[@petaruzelac2004]

You always give up your best settlement. And giving up any city is probably the stupidest thing to do unless Its a shitty city.

[@Spicecarius]

@@petaruzelac2004 Starting out in a war with rome immediately and assuredly carthage following out ways the benefits.. Also Athens and Rhodes are far more important than just another settlement that you can recruit spartans in. Syracuse is far form the best seetlement to have as Greece. Also having a split empire seperated by a large ocean is not efficient. Syracuse is nothing in the begining but a money pit.

[@mysteriousman4966]

@@Spicecarius you can recruit spartans only in sparta and syracuse.

[@redjacc7581]

you ships should be going to appolonia to stop the brutii landing there.

[@JohnSmith-vb7nx]

Why is no new episode coming out?

[@adamboow8299]

Just realised it's remastered 😂😅

[@adamboow8299]

How do you unlock these factions?

[@Nicator_]

Love you Noro so I don't mean to be rude, but the fact that you got early access to RTWR on a 10k subs channel that does not even exclusively play Total War, when PrinceOfMacedon, the first Total War youtuber ever who had uploaded some 3000 episodes of Rome Total War over more than a decade and has 150k subs, did not... well, it's a little strange from CA.

[@Norovo]

I don't know if there are past incidents between POM and CA but if not, I suspect he just didn't sign up for their creators program. The barriers to entry are fairly low - there are channels significantly smaller than mine on there. There is also a higher tier of early access which I haven't been granted, presumably for the reasons you mention.

[@Nicator_]

@@Norovo I see, I understand. And thank you for not taking offense ;D

[@hahdanghongha7810]

PoM doesnt play campaigns much. he has like 1500 views per video now, so for the company, he might be irrelevant. however, we all know he s a legend of this game, and will wait for his uploads of the game next weeks

[@Nicator_]

@@hahdanghongha7810 Sure, it would be a symbolic thing mostly. But nobody who plays Rome Total War in 2021 gets much further than 1500 views per video - I imagine his channel will see a little bit of a reuptake thanks to the remaster, but it is an old game regardless, and naturally it sees fewer viewers than newer titles.

[@-._.-._--._.-._--._.-._--._.-.]

I hate how people in the comments tell you how to play the game, jesus just play the game how you want it doesn't need to be historically accurate all the time either

[@robinsanders5541]

I would love to join in on the fun but all I get is a white campaign map.

[@KaptenKlaenning]

Nice walkthrough, but man did you waste units in those siege battles. A bit painful to watch.

[@nathandettmers1799]

Skirmish mode in a town is worthless, it’s more annoying leaving it on than it is manually pushing units back in the streets! Really skirmish mode only works for mounted units anyway, sure a peltast could turn away and prevent a full on charge from cav, but then what, they are in melee and they die anyway so you’re saving yourself about 10 seconds!

[@johnwest5957]

Total War could rule all strategy, CA did. They took a series far into acclaim, there was nothing left to compete, strategy was theirs. But CA is dead. Their reputation is gone. And so we game in evil days. The PC gamers have turned on each other, instead of their proper rivals, those who envy all that CA has done. CA must weep, if the resigned weep. I will weep in their place, but i would also hope. Remasters yern. What was released, has released again. The outsourced still spin remakes published online. So perhaps now the market wishes CA to be great again. Perhaps a new entry will take up Total War, bring strategy where there is simplicity. Remake the series into better games. Perhaps..

[@heathgray9794]

Nah, never put the palisade up on Sparta.

[@tobiw438]

Do you use a mod too make the numbers of soldiers in a unit bigger?

[@hukutka94]

You can change unit scaling in settings. They can be set to 40/80/120/160 soldiers per standart unit. Some units have lower or higher basic number, so they scale eventually. Like 241 of barbarians or something.

[@AGustofWind1024]

Is the remastered version an official total war thing on steam or do i need a link?

[@Norovo]

It's an official new release

[@raystargazer7468]

wtf is that skirt on the spartans???

[@raidernation4life210]

I dont like how spartan hoplites take soooo long to recruit in sparta lol conquer half of Greece before im 75-80% closer to recruit Spartans

[@VHNFV1]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@redjacc7581]

should take corinth first not athens.

[@sjaaksijben4207]

Agreed if your spy succeeds you can take it on the first turn, then move your army up and siege Athens on the same turn. You leave one peasent in Sparta and one in Corinth

[@Speardon]

Ayy I'm early this time 😂

[@juretic6038]

Holy crap, how is the UI of remastered so shit. It takes up the whole screen, like playing spreadsheets.

[@garthornspike3648]

I think I am going to pass on this so-called "remaster". When a game is remastered the shit that was wrong with the original version should get fixed. That didn't happen.

[@footballforlife2643]

I dont if its just me but i hate TW remastered

[@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU]

This remaster looks like garbage, good lord esp. the world map.. Like a mobile garbage game

[@hukutka94]

I really loved all those new UI stuff with diplomacy and management, you can see everything in numbers now, it looks so much better with those arrows up and arrows down. Old UI didn't look as good. When I get myself a new pc or laptop I absolutely will play remaster, it looks like a joy to me! :3

[@cryptototalwar2915]

The “remastered “ version is actually a major downgrade from the original . The only improvement was the campaign map graphics and the merchant agent class.... other than that it’s a complete disappointment