Total War: Warhammer NEEDS Public Test Realm

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[@VenrisSFO]

PTR - public test realm. Test first, release to live branch when its checked and fixed.

[@RatboyW]

Agreed. People clamored for more frequent patches from CA, but didn't consider the repercussions of CA (who already had a penchant for buggy updates) having even LESS time to test internally. A PTR would alleviate the issue immensely

[@VenrisSFO]

Yep, its needed.

[@Ola_liker_polet]

I mean, we "kind of" have PTR. It is just called "Stay on the previous build and wait 2 months before you touch live". Best advice is to never have auto update on.

[@VenrisSFO]

lol yes

[@theodormejer9250]

Can you even turn off auto update on steam?

[@Grivehn]

@@theodormejer9250 You can. You just need external mod manager if you wanna play with any mods on.

[@Firefocus-fz2we]

@@theodormejer9250 You can "update on launch" and start from Offline mode using Mod Manager and then go Online.

[@ariprovinjunior3445]

​@@theodormejer9250i wanna know too

[@WillyShankspeare]

At this point I burst out laughing when I see Karl Franz in his starting position I've played him so many times.

[@ImNeurons]

PTR should be standard practice. So should demos before purchases.

[@alexcebollero]

My brother and I were chitchatting recently about how we used to get demo discs as kids for games

[@Orendiz]

Yeah its called pirating games

[@TheFawz]

They should just release each patch on a branch for 2 weeks before pushing to retail when there's no DLC involved

[@michorizo84]

Bless ya, Venris. Nathan @ Grudges still hasn't picked up on the fact that every other video starts with 'today, we're going to do something a little bit different...' 😅

[@Zovereign]

Great idea!

[@BarneyGoogl]

Would a PTR actually make a difference, though? I mean they have QA testers, they for sure knew about most, if not all, of these bugs before they went live. They would have just labelled it 'known shippable' and made a note to fix it later. I think what they need to do is stop panicking and slow down their patches so they actually have time to fix these bugs.

[@Majorblood67]

Honestly a two week ptr would be a great idea for the community, It should be something CA might have to take a look into going forward.

[@VenrisSFO]

And easy to do

[@fsrer2638]

A PTR version would really improve the game in theory, but people even in the Live version, are already providing said feedback, and CA is not patching the game within timely manner. I would say that the first thing the game needs is a team that works solely on bugfixes, quick, and simple, and once we have that, then PTR would be the next logical step after consistency is established

[@robovinefilms1811]

I am currently committing the cardinal sin of running SFO AND the Community Bug Fix together on my 4th "post 5.1 patch" campaign. Too many bugs

[@Insideoutcest]

i agree. some weapons are disappearing for some rifle troops too.

[@Noctani]

It's an excellent idea.

[@Lordboro]

Anyone knows how to maintain public order in sfo with catai? -10 from taxes, -4 if you level up control (with no taxes), +6 for the tier 3 control building, +0 harmony, +0 capital buildings. Other factios have better public order buildings or at least the capital buff it.

[@toxlequa]

Great idea. My Nakai campaign is busted 😂

[@cuatepitziost6445]

Clumsy wolf

[@Cynndora]

it would be great but ultimately not sure if it will change anything because it still requires CA to fix their shit.

[@hydra7427]

Agreed. At the very least let you sign up as a closed beta tester. Mod makers deserve a whitelist to keep their mods ready for the release of a new DLC.

[@renevatia939]

They could just do what Stellaris does when they got new changes that are upcoming. They usually releases test betas that players can choose to participate in. On steam it is really easy, since the user can also roll back easily to the current release from the beta branch they let players test out on.

[@vakkius]

needs "a"

[@asdasd-xz9nn]

'm not a developer, but how can they break so many things when their patch doesn't EVEN touch what's broken?

[@VenrisSFO]

Thats a good question.

[@orfanclub6288]

Wazz PTR?, I guess Fenris'll tell me ;) edit; Is ptr public testing release? i thought it had to do with pr x)

[@Joeyjoejoe1708]

Public Test Realm - yes. Kind of like a separate server for beta-access to patches.

[@splattbinat1542]

I doubt it would help. Content creators often already point out bugs when they get early access and qnd their feedback also gets ignored

[@VenrisSFO]

I dont want to revert my game version just because company dont know how to listen.

[@splattbinat1542]

@@VenrisSFO me neither. I'm not saying it's a bad idea at all I just don't believe CA would do much with the feedback. So imo it would just postpone the issue. You would have to rollback a bit later

[@zonolith5912]

PTR just seems like the most obvious solution to the bug problem. Because obviously the players will try everything where devs won’t because they are actively working on the content and tweaking it. Also players know how to break the game just right, lol.

[@DerSteppenwolf1979]

Ptach 5.1 was a complete DISASTER

[@erponxaos]

Yet you have a respectable amount of the people (steam at least) pressing for DLC releases on time like junkies needing to consume something. Community as a whole should put pressure for a decent patch dedicated only to fixing bugs like broken quest battles, Cathay map optimization (because they lag regardless of the PC setup ) and in general these kind of bugs that are still reported for 2 and a half years now.

[@Dolfy]

What exactly this would fix and how different would it be from just having the patch out and then have a hotfix if there really are issues that rise up later on?

[@VenrisSFO]

Game would not be broken for weeks.

[@Dolfy]

@@VenrisSFO How? There already are rollback patches available and while yes it's shit there's not every single patch available to download, if there is something broken then you can tell people to stay on rollback till a hotfix comes out. I don't see any reason why yet another branch should be created that potentially causes more issues when those builds are clearly meant for testing and not meant to be polished for the live game. So obviously issues only present in those builds have a chance to be discarded as "it's just in the test patch" or be falsely reported as just a test patch issue.

[@DerSteppenwolf1979]

@@Dolfy you trying to convince the biggest wh3 modder that CA's disastrous QA is not problem? Really?

[@Dolfy]

@@DerSteppenwolf1979 Why would that stop me from questioning a solution that hasn't proven to work? Did anything change from back when Cavalry Beta was a thing in WH2? Just giving a solution and saying that will fix everything should already raise some red flags especially considering how other projects from CA have handled test builds for feedback/testing.

[@erponxaos]

A PTR is the one and only good thing that lame Blizzard has done for Diablo. Of course PTR won't do anything if the developers don't take the feedback into account with the required seriousness. Having rollbacks or beta extra releases as a QA solution is a cheap unprofessional method for a serious company and should only be excused and accepted when coming from small indie studios due to budget.

[@Insideoutcest]

i wish i could get paid by my vassle. it ends up being like 25 gold per 200/300? some weird conversion i wonder what happened.

[@theniceadmiral8488]

What is PTR?

[@Shrike12]

Player Test Realm - somewhere people can play new updates before they are released to the main game

[@VenrisSFO]

Public Test Realm. Testing things before goes to live.

[@Sercotani]

watched the whole video, I probably missed it but he doesn't say what it means. From context though he probably meant "Public Test Realm", so players can test out patches before a new one comes out. Which introduces the problem of possible leaks before the patch goes live, or dissatisfaction when CA changes something during testing, but it could also be good to squash out bugs and even get good feedback on what the community really wants.

[@diogo93bortolin]

Yeap. I just stop playing after seeing so many bugs. I'm waiting for a patch. First gameplay: Valkia -wtf, where's my income? (and I was even paying that +100% vassal income gift) Second gameplay: Ok then, who don't depends on vassals -> SKAVEN -Wtf, my Ikit Klaw just exploded himself out of nowhere!!! Alt + F4 Third: -How's is thorgrim running that way? WTF -Forth: Nurgle surplus is still costing 3 on main settlements? Really?

[@VenrisSFO]

Ikit bug was funny, fixed it asap in SFO.

[@diogo93bortolin]

​@@VenrisSFO Not for me! I was doing a siege for 20 minutes and that caused my loss. LOL

[@emilgrabowski2316]

Second.... first time

[@PCRyder]

CA sucks.

[@caindis-abel-dhisbrother9601]

First (again)

[@VenrisSFO]

Gratz!