As a browns fan i saw the tittle of the video and already knew who it was about.
@mikewach325 жыл бұрын
Same here
@robertcramer55595 жыл бұрын
packboy333 we would have a Super Bowl if “he who must not be named” didn’t do what he did. He also lost us Jim Brown. Hopefully Baker and Garret can bring us happiness and make us forgot about all our misery.
@jaleesagreene68005 жыл бұрын
Me too
@jdtreadway5 жыл бұрын
Could have been the Baltimore Colts..... Irsay screwed them worse than the Browns. At least the Browns knew it was coming
@hunterfootball42465 жыл бұрын
Same buddy and go brownies
@lonnyfuller78305 жыл бұрын
The Browns fans are like the cubs fan loyal for life.
@ck-16495 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@patrickmanway290 Жыл бұрын
@@ck-1649 They also never support the Guardians when they are doing well. Bunch of hypocrites.
@BigMattXXL5 жыл бұрын
Before i watch, this will either be Kroenke, Irsay, Spanos, or Modell
@mistykal1980mf5 жыл бұрын
The Cavs arena was originally called Gund arena and Progressive field was Jacob's field.
@chrisbacos5 жыл бұрын
The Colts left Baltimore after the 1983 season. Get your facts straight.
@mitchconner11325 жыл бұрын
Tps always gets something wrong it's just embarassing
@nickbrennan89795 жыл бұрын
I think he meant 83 and said 93. Slip of the tongue.
@brad23semancik835 жыл бұрын
chrisbacos Irsay should definitely be a close second
@DaVictonatorАй бұрын
It’s even more frustrating to the fans that they moved to Indianapolis overnight without telling the fans
@chrisbacosАй бұрын
@@DaVictonator It ripped the hearts out of fans who supported that team since it's inception in the 1950s.
@anthonyfreeman65135 жыл бұрын
Poor San Diego, Spanos screwed them over big time
@BigTigerCLASSICS5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Freeman Sportscasters when a relocation debate is sparked: This team needs to be Relocated! That’s all that needs to be said When it Actually Happens: HOW Could someone do this! This is a Horrible move!!!
@gingycakes76085 жыл бұрын
Da Big Jacktus VP nobody wanted sandiego to go. They had a better fan base in sandiego. Spanos just wanted the city to pay for his new stadium with tax dollars so he didn’t have to spend a cent
@chrisbacos5 жыл бұрын
@@gingycakes7608 There was a referendum in either San Diego County or the city to fund a new stadium with a hotel tax revenue which was defeated.
@jonathanenright51765 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah
@TGCRVT5 жыл бұрын
It was a bogus, joke referendum that Spanos and Fabiani knew was going to lose. They tried to sell San Diego on trying to shoehorn a $2 billion monstrosity into downtown where no one wanted it, when rebuilding in Mission Valley or somewhere else would have been less expensive. They also jacked up the price by adding a roof... in San Diego. I can't think of another city where you would need a roofed stadium less. Dean Spanos never intended to stay in SD and his trained attack dog Mark Fabiani so poisoned the well here that there is no way a Spanos owned team could ever come back. So they now have to make it in LA where the Rams don't want them, the people of LA don't want them and the NFL don't want them. Spanos has taken an NFL team with a 56 year history in a city and fan base and made it a laughing stock.
@Nightsever19885 жыл бұрын
"The colts ditch Baltimore in 1993" excuse me???!
@adamdorgant9454 Жыл бұрын
They moved to Indianapolis in 1984!!!!
@rcbigbob5 жыл бұрын
Irsay told a flock of cameras and reporters that he wasn’t moving the Colts from Baltimore, all the while he was going around the country being wooed by cities like Jacksonville. Any legal action the city of Baltimore and state of Maryland took was in direct response to that mans deceitful behavior. He set the stage for moving teams long before Art Modell.
@markvahlkamp54435 жыл бұрын
rcbigbob bingo
@Deborahtunes Жыл бұрын
Exactly...
@KittyPurrfect100 Жыл бұрын
Al Davis moved the Raiders to Los Angeles against NFL’s wishes. Then Irsay. Can’t blame Irsay for moving Colts; colors, name, history should have stayed there but Maryland wouldn’t build a football stadium by 1993 I mean 1983.
@claudiusgreen27915 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, before Modell, there was Robert (I snuck the Colts outta Baltimore in the middle of the night because I can) Irsay, THE most hated 'owner' in the NFL, with Al Davis a very close second.
@ericlehman6841 Жыл бұрын
How about Bud Adams, while we're at it?
@HeavyJ7138 ай бұрын
@@ericlehman6841H-own's feelings about Bud Adams range from Pure hatred to just plain apathy.
@DanMeyer80 Жыл бұрын
While Modell made bad business deals, the city of Cleveland screwed him over as well. City officials were just as much to blame as Modell was.
@216Numbskull6 ай бұрын
@DanMeyer80, How exactly did the city of Cleveland screw Art "The Azzhole" Modell my friend? Discussions to build a new stadium for Art & the team between the city of Cleveland & Modell may have taken longer in debate than expected. However, the issue looked very promising on the city's part to build a new stadium for the BROWNS. Unlike Modell who was acting like the little bltch he was all the time by throwing temper tantrums if he didn't immediately get his way. The fact that the city of Cleveland leased Muni stadium to Modell for only $1.00 a year speaks volumes alone. While in turn Modell profited off of leasing the stadium to the Cleveland Indians over half the year. Which I guarantee that lease agreement with the Indians was much more than a $1.00 a year. Not to mention Modell also owned & controlled all the beer & food concession stands at every event in the stadium. So, please tell me again how hard it was for Modell to make a buck back in the day? If anybody screwed anybody, Art's the one who took complete advantage of BROWNS fans & the city of Cleveland more so than anyone else really. Remember Cleveland only charged Modell a buck per year to lease Muni stadium. While Modell never put a single buck into keeping up the stadium whatsoever. Modell let the stadium go to shlt when it was his responsibility to fix & update anything that needed to be done in the lease agreement he signed, period. WTF-OVER! You can't have your cake & eat it too, ya dig? I hate to speak ill will of the dead, but F%ck Modell. Art Modell was also the ignorant dipshlt who after he bought the BROWNS decided to fire an iconic figure & HC in the NFL named "Paul Brown" over a silly argument. I mean "Paul Brown" was only the guy the Cleveland BROWNS are named after. No big deal there, right? 😂😉 GO-DAWGS!
@acito90375 жыл бұрын
Colts moved out of Baltimore in 1983. Not 93.
@bobbymunroe43635 жыл бұрын
T R 1984
@LOLWalyoshi25 жыл бұрын
They lost John Elway, then got relocated the year after
@sce2aux4645 жыл бұрын
The city of Baltimore attempted to steal the team from Robert Irsay. Moving the Colts was self-defense.
@adamdorgant9454 Жыл бұрын
In 1984!!!!
@boblenny23065 жыл бұрын
Im guessing Art Model? Edit: yep i‘m a browns fan and i figured it would be him
@genez29875 жыл бұрын
Speaking of his bad business decisions you forgot to mention how bad dumping a ton of money on Andre Rison was. If I remember right Model claimed to have taken out a loan towards Rison's contract.
@markrobertson21965 жыл бұрын
That and he had to go to multiple banks in the Cleveland area to get the loan for t signing bonus
@youtubebuns55205 жыл бұрын
Every nfl teams biggest lost entering the 2019 season
@apluckynumberis135 жыл бұрын
Nice idea
@overkill6661005 жыл бұрын
As a cowboys fan, our biggest loss is keeping Garrett
@emilyphinney75605 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan M. i thank god my chiefs got him
@Eldrunic5 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan M. As a cardinals fan, we fucked up first by asking him to take a pay cut when he was clearly a top 5 saftey in the league even projected to be still in top 5 after his injury.
@edagener8835 жыл бұрын
Mark Ingram :(
@keepitreal90805 жыл бұрын
Stan Kroenke doesn't dare even fly over St. Louis. He is hated so much in The Lou.
@jonjonr65 жыл бұрын
Do they really call it "the Lou"? Lol
@davidminor42135 жыл бұрын
J C yes
@crosstatt7441 Жыл бұрын
Who’s Stan Kroenke? What did he do that he was so hated in St. Louis?
@manrajsingh58535 жыл бұрын
I could tell off the bat it was art model who took ownership from legend Paul brown
@JamesGhee34 жыл бұрын
And that ladies and gentlemen men is how the Cincinnati Bengals were created
@phillywentz11435 жыл бұрын
best quarterback drafted in each round (2000-2019)
@dylanshort16615 жыл бұрын
Pissing on someone's grave just cause of a relocation sounds salty to me
@WagnerBoy555 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't understand unless you are were a browns fan
@howardcitizen24715 жыл бұрын
Superdog 1038 Respect is not automatic, it’s earned. Modell deserves no respect.
@jamesmarkley4515 жыл бұрын
Your team ever just pick up and move? Art deserves far more then that
@liveleakman5 жыл бұрын
Law Da Realist it was modell that got rid of bill though
@WagnerBoy555 жыл бұрын
Law Da Realist common misconception, but it was modell and the ravens. That coaching staff that we had in the 90s was legendary. Nick Saban was our defensive coordinator
@ZhangtheGreat5 жыл бұрын
Really, winning a Super Bowl is the only way Browns fans will "forgive" (note the quotes) Modell. I know some Browns fans right now may think they can never do it, but take it from this Eagles fan: that first Super Bowl victory after decades of heartbreak does do wonders for fan sentiment. It calms nerves and makes it much easier for fans to let go of grudges or not hold them at all.
@navalpanic125 жыл бұрын
Hey DeQwan!! I love how informative and we'll researched your videos are!! I'd like to make a recommendation for another video which could really be a 3-part saga. Spanos, Davis, and Kroenke.
@Sargebri5 жыл бұрын
I live in Los Angeles, so I remember that dark year of 1995 when we lost both the Rams and the Raiders. Georgia Frontiere made Modell look like a saint.
@jpmnky5 жыл бұрын
Yes. And Rob Irsay was just a weasel. Compare his attitude with Modell. Art was always in tears and Rob was cursing with his fists clinched. He snuck off in the middle of the night. At least Art told everyone what he was going to do.
@KingGemini873 жыл бұрын
Georgia wanted to keep the Rams in LA when she was owner but nothing could be done
@Sargebri3 жыл бұрын
@@KingGemini87 no she didn't. She was a greedy bitch who didn't give a rat's ass about LA. In fact, if she really wanted to keep the team in LA she and her stooge John Shaw should have sold the team to someone who would have kept the team here.
@chrisbacosАй бұрын
@@Sargebri Fellow Angeleno here she destroyed that team and time is a healer and the Rams 🐏 are home to stay
@SargebriАй бұрын
@@KingGemini87she didn't want to keep the team. She did everything she could to poison the relationship the team had with the community. In fact, the last season in LA they were only averaging 35,000 fans.
@observeandreport20115 жыл бұрын
How Jim Dolan didn’t make the incompetent segment is beyond me.
@whome64155 жыл бұрын
Give it time, he'll start an entire industry of people bringing his incompetents to light
@MrBlockice225 жыл бұрын
Yep a time I will never forget. But its history for my state of Ohio. Anyone thats in Ohio, remembered when that move happened. But remember when this man made the "Stop Art" sign? I know that guy, he is a building manager at one of my jobs at the time. That was a piece of Browns history right there!! He showed me that Plain Dealer news article of him holding that sign, one day when we was talking, that was great!!
@EricGallant245 жыл бұрын
Ehhh not as bad as Bob Irsay who took the colts from Baltimore overnight WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE THEY LEFT IN SECRET
@ididurmom34875 жыл бұрын
eric Gallant I’m pretty sure you are thinking about my dad
@Deborahtunes5 жыл бұрын
That's what I say too. Art Modell was being s**t on by the city of Cleveland, so naturally he would look for other places to go. On the other hand, Irsay stabbed the city of Baltimore in the back for no reason. And snuck out like the coward he was in the middle of the night. I still believe since Tagliabue absolutely despised Baltimore, he had something to do with that whole Minneapolis Colts deal. Every time Baltimore had a chance to get a new team, Tagliabue did something to purposely screw it up. Thankfully he couldn't stop Art's move. But I believe he tried... EDIT: (6/29/2021) Thank you to *BalliNqnz,* for pointing out my error, of saying "Minneapolis Colts" instead of "Indianapolis Colts". The correction is much appreciated...
@ianwinfield9295 жыл бұрын
MayFlower Move 1984
@markvahlkamp54435 жыл бұрын
AGREED!!!
@YankeesLife4 жыл бұрын
What about clay bennett relocating the seattle supersonics in the nba
@michaelleroy92814 жыл бұрын
The Hall of Fame might not be still standing if Modell got in
@ibraheemrao84345 жыл бұрын
Brown's most recent playoff win was Bill Belichick''s first
@fightingirishinohio5 жыл бұрын
But yet, still more recent than the Bengals last playoff win. LOL
@michaelleroy92814 жыл бұрын
It was ( how ironic ) a win over the Patriots
@mach68933 жыл бұрын
2020 Browns: Oops!
@michaelleroy92818 ай бұрын
January 1 1995 ( 1994 season)
@thenewjord505 жыл бұрын
Colts moved in 1983 not 1993 lol
@jeff95155 жыл бұрын
True😂😂😂
@AToyotaPickupx5 жыл бұрын
Stephen Curry WTF
@Deborahtunes5 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was 1984 when Irsay the coward, snuck them out of Baltimore...
@phillipschulte-hordelhoff42615 жыл бұрын
@@AToyotaPickupx He is a troll that pops up on this channel all the time; ignore him and don't feed him
@thenewjord505 жыл бұрын
@@Deborahtunes got my year wrong but it was close enough lol
@steelephoebus12995 жыл бұрын
Colts left after the 1983 season... in the middle of the night as all fans remember Mayflower moving trucks after Robert Irsay said he wasn't moving the team after shopping the team Jacksonville and Indy. The same can be said for Irsay. Please do one on him.
@lanehobby5 жыл бұрын
The browns are one of the most loved teams in America this year... unless you like a rival of the browns you can’t hate them
@MeteorSmash5 жыл бұрын
This true. Not a Browns fan, but they're pretty cool.
@flyawayq51155 жыл бұрын
Lane Hobby Hopefully my Jets can finally dig themselves out of the gutter like the Browns did. Things are looking up for the Jets, Browns, and Jags all things considered.
@nataleeegleston13345 жыл бұрын
The jerk who moved the Colts in the middle of the night, he is the biggest jerk!
@ShyOne19955 жыл бұрын
As a Browns fan the biggest reason I hate Art Modell is that he just wouldn’t admit to his mistakes when at the end of the day it was his fault, his poor business decisions lead to his problems. He literally demonized Cleveland making us look like the bad guys because he just didn’t want to with admit that he screwed up, that’s egotistical to a legendary degree! Also before you say he didn’t demonize the city, he made it look like the city was screwing him over constantly even though what he did was purely his fault because of poor business practices, also the way his family treated the city of Cleveland as if we were ungrateful! Why don’t you go ask how grateful the city of Oakland is now that the Raiders are leaving, I bet you you won’t find any gratitude among those fans! I know this has kind of been a rant but I hate that people try to defend Art Modell, he doesn’t deserve a defense, he screwed over Cleveland and then blamed the people he screwed over. I’m sorry but that’s unforgivable.
@crosstatt7441 Жыл бұрын
I agree that he was definitely at fault. However, Mayor White isn’t innocent in this. Yes, Modell is the main perpetrator here. Unfortunately, the number one mistake on Art’s behalf was agreeing to control the stadium.
@crosstatt7441 Жыл бұрын
The fans were innocent, but not the city.
@jace15745 жыл бұрын
Every teams worst/most unforgettable officiating call
@ericspowers5 жыл бұрын
Bidwell family twice. Potsville Maroons and St. Louis Cardinals..
@richardhenckel94065 жыл бұрын
I heard through my grandfather on my dads side that robert irsay showed up to town meetings hammered
@markvahlkamp54435 жыл бұрын
Richard Henckel not surprised
@frankjennings52085 жыл бұрын
It’s good to see someone who does their homework and states facts..
@damionpinales2145 жыл бұрын
Undrafted players who go on to be better than drafted player. Top undrafted players ever.
@terristagman74255 жыл бұрын
Phillip Lindsay maybe
@mr.marino11205 жыл бұрын
Adam theilen
@davidminor42135 жыл бұрын
Tony Romo was the best QB of the 2003 draft and went undrafted
@lukepaton94545 жыл бұрын
Tony Romo was undrafted
@michaelleroy92814 жыл бұрын
Drew Pearson should be on the top of that
@TheBeardedOneBass5 жыл бұрын
He fired Paul Brown from the Browns. He pushed Jim Brown out of the league. He took the Browns to Baltimore. He doesn't deserve the HOF and he was a terrible owner. This video is an Art Apologist plea.
@PoipoleMujigae2 жыл бұрын
I kind of knew it was Art Modell..
@ericlehman684110 ай бұрын
Me too.
@mards24795 жыл бұрын
Should’ve given them what they wanted, and the nfl should’ve given Baltimore an expansion team. Oh well, I’ll take the 2 Super Bowls in 23 years 💪🏻 that said, the browns kept their HOFers, their nfl championships, colors, they kept everything, Baltimore’s entire football history moved to another city. The old Otto graham era browns can still claim their team and city, the old Unitas era colts don’t even recognize the Indy colts as their franchise.
@southsidejay32424 жыл бұрын
Mike Hardesty 💯
@patrickchaney5 жыл бұрын
TPS: “Art Modell is the most hated owner in the history in the NFL...” Stan Kroenke: “Hold my beverage...” - Moved the St. Louis Rams to Los Angeles, despite being offered what he asked for PLUS. - Evicted several Texas homeowners to expand his ranch, leading to one of them committing suicide. - Super... Bowl... LIII...
@TheJetfighter6665 жыл бұрын
As an avid Jet fanatic, I couldn’t fathom this happening to me. I feel for the Houston Oilers, and all the other fans that got their hearts ripped out of their chest! As for fantasy football, just another excuse to make football all about me, and not the team. So there you go. Jets4 life!! The Jetfighter666.
@ibraheemrao84345 жыл бұрын
Pissing on someone's graves is disrespectful.
@LuisMercadoorg5 жыл бұрын
Ibraheem Rao yeah... that’s kinda the point.
@WDI2008 Жыл бұрын
Essentially Art Modell is hated just as much in Cleveland as Bob Irsay is in Baltimore.
@crosstatt7441 Жыл бұрын
Or Bud Adams in Houston.
@djsting5 жыл бұрын
I can say with certainty that the HOF would burn like the Cuyahoga if he gets inducted anytime within the next 60+ years. There are still way too many people that remember having their hearts ripped out by him.
@SafetyTheDuck5 жыл бұрын
Think about this, the Browns could've been the 21st century dynasty instead of the Patriots if Bellichick didn't piss off Browns fans, and if Art Modell stayed in Cleveland.
@yungbananaclip28225 жыл бұрын
Yea but he had no reason to feud with Kosar other than his inflated ego. He couldn't stand that Bernie had as good of a football mind as his and that he often called his own plays and scraped Belichicks(or whoever his coach was).
@carolharris40345 жыл бұрын
The owner of the Rams, Ray Kroenke, could be at the top of this list. After repeatedly lying to St. Louis and saying he would not move the team, he did just that, giving the middle finger to some of the best sports fans around.
@my2centsiz35 жыл бұрын
Well done, what the city of Baltimore offered Model was incredible. The city of Cleveland was just offering a new Stadium or up grades and renovation to the old stadium. Where pocketing the money would be under a microscope, Baltimore offered the stadium and? filled his pockets. All at the expense of the Tax payers. So schools suffered. all of civil service went without. Which trust me, they still had it good. So it wasnt so much the stadium, but what he could pocket. Baltimore got its team. So lets do some math. Oakland? or Vegas? Right Vegas gets the team.
@my2centsiz35 жыл бұрын
Well I was living in Vegas when all this went down and only remember what I heard and saw on TV, I remember Mayor White handing over a check to a Browns official for n absurd amount of money but it was after the fact, I also heard that the deal went down on Randy Lerners private plane, And Lerner was slowly buying up all the Browns stock for a take over, so it was Arts last chance to make money before Lerner bought him out. Unfortunately , any time the tax payers fund anything, the schools and public suffer. I live in Vegas, one of the richest Countys in the U.S. and we have a horrible education system. We take your money, but it only goes to the greedy. Personally, I dont think Art was very liked in Cleveland.
@ericlehman6841 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I understand Art Modell is certainly to blame. Also, don't forget that Al Lerner helped with the move.
@Eaglemna5 жыл бұрын
1983. The Colts left Baltimore in 1983(1984).
@michaelleroy92814 жыл бұрын
During that off season
@leobold115 жыл бұрын
Has no one heard of Bud Adams and the Tennessee Turncoats?
@crosstatt7441 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I wonder about it, too.
@alanperkins52985 жыл бұрын
I am sorry but the Colts leaving Baltimore in 1983 in the MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT was worse than the Browns moving to baltimore
@brycenlantz9245 жыл бұрын
Alan Perkins Wrong
@alanperkins52985 жыл бұрын
@@brycenlantz924 you're right it was 1984 I am sorry
@markvahlkamp54435 жыл бұрын
WAAAAAY worse than the Browns move. Baltimore lost its colors, it’s fight songs, everything. The Browns, on the other hand, got to keep all that stuff for their new team
@pabloseykata69305 жыл бұрын
ALL NFL owners have ZERO loyalty to the City their team plays in. And NFL owners have even LESS loyalty to the Fans of their team. All you have to do is take note of all the NFL teams that have moved just recently. And when an NFL team owner wants a new, State-of-the-Art Stadium for his team, the very first words out of his mouth is "Give me a new Stadium or I will move MY NFL team." People: do NOT spend $175 on Official NFL gear like Jerseys.
@conniecrawford52315 жыл бұрын
Definitely knew it would never be the Steelers and our wonderful Rooney family!Loyal owners, loyal fans and loyal city! Go Steelers! Modell sucked!
@lightweight1365 Жыл бұрын
Rooney was only one of six owners who voted against Moddell stealing the team.
@Mbarnstein62891 Жыл бұрын
We in Baltimore know exactly know how the people in Cleveland feel, we went through it twelve years prior.
@BeezowDoodooZopittybop-bop-bop4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Told the whole story in a good and unbiased way. Still hate Modell, but the video was great.
@lisajackson95145 жыл бұрын
Top 10: Satisfying Patriots losses
@meatpuddle905 жыл бұрын
Super bowls 42, 46, 52
@bullymaguire67225 жыл бұрын
That Dolphins last second lost
@6lemans105 жыл бұрын
As a Giants fan, I approve of this idea!👏
@matthewmiller72075 жыл бұрын
2012 AFC Championship Game.
@davidminor42135 жыл бұрын
Gee, I wonder what would be #1?
@thesafekeeper11168 ай бұрын
Cursed?!?! He left Cleveland to Baltimore only to win a Super bowl! Give that man a stadium 🏟 and he'd stay! Oh by the way I'm from Baltimore! Go Ravens 😆
@lonniestephens6254 Жыл бұрын
What would've happened if Paul Brown was never fired from the Cleveland Browns?
@scottie22slick5 жыл бұрын
Mike Brown from the Bengals has to be top 3. He's held Cincinnati fans hostage for decades.
@stevenstocker7425 Жыл бұрын
This is why nobody watches TPS. They get basic nfl facts wrong and just following the majority. Art model had no choice to move his team. The way the city treated him before no new stadium, Rock and roll hall of fame, new Indians stadium, and a new cavs arena. Sorry Cleveland crybaby fans but I would have moved in a second. And you still have your team, I was a St. Louis rams fan and now we have noting
@benthescientist5 жыл бұрын
Could be worse. Imagine being a Mets fan
@davidminor42135 жыл бұрын
Ben the Scientist could be worse, imagine being a St Louis football fan
@allenwoodall55905 жыл бұрын
I am a Mets fan since 1983 when Keith Hernandez was traded there. I hate the Mets Owners.
@michaelleggett39805 жыл бұрын
The Wilpons were tieing up money while "Investing" with Bernie Madoff & other Ponzi Schemers.
@juliangarcia12214 жыл бұрын
@@davidminor4213 You guys lost the Cardinals to Phoenix and then the Rams to L.A
@michaelleroy92818 ай бұрын
They have won the World 🌎 Series twice nothing wrong with that
@frdjr2527 Жыл бұрын
Art Modell, himself a native of Brooklyn, NY, was asked by a reporter how he could do to Cleveland in 1995 what Walter O'Malley did to Brooklyn in 1957. Modell would say that as a long time Dodger fan, the team's move to LA was heartbreaking to him, but understood why O'Malley did it. Spoken like a businessman. Modell is as reviled in Cleveland as Walter O'Malley was in Brooklyn.
@KingGemini87 Жыл бұрын
But Brooklyn shouldn't be mad at Walter O'Malley. They should be mad at Robert Moses because HE was the one who told Walter that the Dodgers will remain in New York but not Brooklyn because the proposed stadium for the Dodgers would be built in Queens which didn't make any sense at all. So blame and be mad at Robert Moses, not Walter O'Malley
@bobbymunroe43635 жыл бұрын
He left because after begging for a much needed new stadium year after year, they said they couldn’t afford it and were going to vote on whether or not to give $175 million for a renovation. That’s not a lot of money for a stadium. Then the city built Jacobs Field for the Indians despite saying they had no money. Also browns fans need to get over it. You got to keep your team name and colors and got a new stadium and team 2 years later. And look at what you have done with it.
@liamcollins1646 Жыл бұрын
if i had a nickel for every time the browns moved to baltimore, i would have two nickels. which isn’t a lot, but weird it happened twice
@Tony__Tone5 жыл бұрын
I am disappointed this isn't about Dean Spanos. At least Cleveland got another NFL team.
@LNB6275 жыл бұрын
Top Trades that devastated a franchise
@jordanscott72605 жыл бұрын
What's the music called in the back round of this video
@AR-ds7ly5 жыл бұрын
Best quarterback to be drafted in each draft class (2000-2019)
@apluckynumberis135 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was already done but I don't know
@ibraheemrao84345 жыл бұрын
2000: THE GOAT 2001: Drew Brees 2003: Carson Palmer 2004: Big Ben 2005: Aaron Rodgers 2006: Jay Cutler 2008: Matt Ryan 2009: Matthew Stafford 2011: Cam Newton 2012: Russell Wilson 2014: Jimmy G 2017: Patrick Mahomes 2018: Lamar Jackson 2019: Drew Lock
@footballtalkwithfreddy86845 жыл бұрын
Daniel Olsen you mean josh Allen
@footballtalkwithfreddy86845 жыл бұрын
Daniel Olsen for josh Allen you have to add total yards not just passing
@yungjokastan20845 жыл бұрын
Ibraheem Rao 2018:Lamar Jackson XD Are you serious, it’s obviously Baker plus Drew Lock probably won’t be the best QB in the 2019 NFL Draft
@joelpierce14535 жыл бұрын
I know it's not quite the same, but Dean Spanos did this to San Diego too.
@Bughy22365 жыл бұрын
You could honestly start a series on NFL owners, really just sports team owners in general, moving teams for no reason except more money in their own bank account.
@brendangilbride84025 жыл бұрын
Any owner who fires bill belichick does not belong in the hall of fame
@sloworbits13385 жыл бұрын
Bill belichick is a cheater
@crosstatt744111 ай бұрын
I guess that means Bob Kraft (NE Patriots) doesn’t either.
@ct14535 жыл бұрын
Driving all that way to Piss on his grave is on a whole new level of petty
@repete62005 жыл бұрын
depends it’s either irsay for moving out of baltimore or modell for leaving cleveland
@markvahlkamp54435 жыл бұрын
maple tobasco I would say that Irsay was worse than Modell
@austinrwhite45 жыл бұрын
Never heard of someone pissing on a grave.
@MatthiaGryffine5 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title, I knew where this was going.
@altfactor2 жыл бұрын
The NFL should've made Art Modell sell the original Cleveland Browns to a local Cleveland group, and use the proceeds from the sale to pay the league for the rights to an expansion team in Baltimore.
@crosstatt74419 ай бұрын
If it weren’t for the stadium issue, I’d agree. Also, he shouldn’t have ever needed to take the stadium off the town’s hands to begin with.
@josheubanks3705 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about the former St. Louis Rams owner and how he shit all over St. Louis with their return to L.A
@forgottenplaces97805 жыл бұрын
I hate it when people from espn or what have you say cleveland should have just accepted it when modell literally violated the stadium lease by 3 years and then the nfl allowed it. Modell moved the browns for one reason his own personal financial problems which followed him to baltimore which caused him to sell the ravens anyway. Refurbishing cleveland stadium would have been a bad move tho at that point all the multipurpose stadiums were going away....
@andreadeamon64195 жыл бұрын
Fun fact - browns had the most championships until they named it the Superbowl - now - we're still waiting for 1. Hopefully this is our year 🏈🧡
@Rebmetpes45 жыл бұрын
Maaaaan, this move even pissed ME off; people in Houston was going the BS w Bud Adams move to Tennessee around the same time!
@KingGemini875 жыл бұрын
You from Houston?
@harrisonstein83345 жыл бұрын
Do a video about ranking the best nfl offenses in the 2019 season
@lambert5815 жыл бұрын
What if Modell had Never Moved the Browns? I think Baltimore would've gotten an expansion team.
@matthewmiller72075 жыл бұрын
Not as long as Tagliabue was the commish.
@johnmayes58895 жыл бұрын
They were supposed to get the cardinals but it never happen they had a Baltimore cardinals. Appeal made but it didn't happen in from MD but on the of county side Right by DC HTTR
@Junior_Rocky5 жыл бұрын
Of course they would have.
@SuperPinkFloyd795 жыл бұрын
Baltimore put in a bid for a team in 1994 along with Carolina and Jacksonville. Jacksonville literally bailed out of it and said they didn't want a team anymore and they were still awarded a team over Baltimore. Tagliabue made it a mission to fuck Baltimore hard.
@ck-16495 жыл бұрын
THEY SHOULD'VE BEEN THE ONES TO SUFFER!!!
@E3Cooper5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure everyone who watches the NFL knew who this was gonna be about, but good video as usual, Idea for a video do best quarterback wide receiver duo for 2000's and current
@Staceyatkinson44963 жыл бұрын
Every time the games are released every year, I look for these two games, as a steeler, I love the grudge match when they play, I like the history of this grudge
@dylan3515 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think this video was about Stan kroenke and St. Louis?
@davidminor42135 жыл бұрын
A Person Should have been
@markrobertson21965 жыл бұрын
He could've and probably should have sold the team to Al Lerner, kept a small steak in the team, had it worked out where David Modell could be president or something else the front office, that was another reason behind the move, he wanted David Modell to inherit the team when Art died
@crosstatt7441 Жыл бұрын
Also, the stadium was in bad condition, so that would’ve been a liability.
@markrobertson2196 Жыл бұрын
@crosstatt7441 that is true, that place at the time was a giant hell hole and beyond repair pretty much. Browns were long over due for a new stadium.
@petis19765 жыл бұрын
Eugene Crabs wants to play his violin for Cleveland.
@KTthaSouthernGent225 жыл бұрын
Top 10 rivalries in the Deep South (NCAA ,NFL)
@joeyvocaire41445 жыл бұрын
You forgot one big thing he also did back in the 60s after firing Paul Brown..Jim Brown, HOF RB, didn't want Paul Brown fired and then Jim wanted to do acting and football and Art gave him a choice one or the other and Jim brown left football because he didn't feel appreciated by art.
@GrantYT185 жыл бұрын
Ik it was Art as soon as I read the title
@coocumbah5 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot about the pissing on the grave thing that was pretty funny
@shmurdashewrote16783 жыл бұрын
Colts left Baltimore via Mayfield moving trucks on a snowy night on March 28th, 1984 (NOT 1993)! ❄️❄️❄️
@huntermolitor89125 жыл бұрын
I been a browns fan since they went 0-16. Happy they are good now
@brownsfan32905 жыл бұрын
Cmon man, we are looking promising and I was almost happy. I’m trying my hardest to forget about this.
@JUVI9596 Жыл бұрын
These billionaires can never have enough
@ronsharer29865 жыл бұрын
What happened to Cleveland is no worse than when Bob Irsay snuck the Colts out of Baltimore in the middle of the night. I was a huge Colts fan but embraced the Ravens when they came here and got over the Colts. Now Cleveland has their Browns back so get the hell over it!
@davidminor42135 жыл бұрын
Ron Sharer IKR. So when is St Louis getting a team again? Ya know, the city that actually voted "yes" on a new stadium ......
@ronsharer29865 жыл бұрын
@@davidminor4213 from what I heard the mayor of st Louis already said he wants nothing more to do with the nfl. Can't really blame him.
@davidminor42135 жыл бұрын
Ron Sharer Ya well, mayor's change.
@ronsharer29865 жыл бұрын
@@davidminor4213 true. And I believe if someone else wanted to move there he'd probably open his arms. After losing 2 franchises I could understand his frustration though.
@davidminor42135 жыл бұрын
Ron Sharer I don't want a another relocated team. As much as I hate Stan, I have nothing against LA. Losing both of their teams, watching one of them win a Super Bowl, that had to hurt. I want an expansion team. Born right here in St Louis. I want the fans to choose the name. And I want an AFC team this time. I don't want to play the Rams or Cardinals. I want to beat them in the Superbowl! I wanna play the Chiefs, and Browns, and Pats and Steelers. It's been 17 years since an expansion, and the NFL wants a team in London. They like even numbers. And they're going to want London playing Washington DC, New York, Philly and Dallas. Besides, putting London in the "American Football Conference" would be silly. So it is entirely feasible for an expansion AFC St Louis football team. Having a team in KC and not St Louis is like Houston without Dallas. Just a matter of time.
@yureion5 жыл бұрын
Tbh I tend not to feed into many rivalries even with my own teams (from a get as far as hatred) but the Browns/Ravens "Hate" to me is one of if not the most well founded in sports. Even more so than the Jets/Pats and everything with Bill; definitely the most well founded in football. Albeit theres tons more storied but when it comes to sheer emotion and justification I'd have to say that's #1 (i'd say Colts to Indy is 1a at best simply cus they had a team stolen before, then turned around and did it to another city).
@heyyou7225 жыл бұрын
As a ravens fan i whole heartedly support this move 😂
@ck-16494 жыл бұрын
WTF is wrong with you
@phillysportsphanatic15475 жыл бұрын
This is why you never mess with Cleveland
@KingGemini875 жыл бұрын
Exactly. NEVER fuck with Cleveland
@expertivy26555 жыл бұрын
@@KingGemini87 hell mess with Cleveland you get everyone in ohio
@KingGemini875 жыл бұрын
@@expertivy2655 Oh I know that. I'm from Cleveland so I know how it is