To Tell the Truth - Dean of Santa school; PANEL: Betty White, Johnny Carson (Dec 4, 1961)

[@shannon2519]

I love how this episode had some original commercials included! 😊

[@maynardsmoreland]

Sadly, Davey Moore died as a result of injuries sustained in a boxing match with Sugar Ramos on 3/21/1963; he died on March 25. The bout was televised and shocked many viewers.

[@retrorex]

Bob Dylan wrote a song about it, "Who Killed Davy Moore?" It's on one of the bootleg series.

[@terriburroughs1660]

It's very cool to watch this show retrospectively and find out what became of the person later in life. Tragic story about this poor man.

[@joeambrose3260]

@Mark Richardson I remember that one, he was run over by his own car. I didn't know about this Davey Moore till recently. R I P

[@44032]

There's another Davey Moore who was a champion in the 1980s who got run over by his own car. This Davey Moore died from injuries sustained in his bout with Sugar Ramos, as listed. @rose3260

[@jacquelinebell6201]

I love when some of the old commercials are left in.❤

[@murielevans9450]

FAMILY NEVER TALKED ABOUT. UNCLE DAVID MOORE BEING ON TELL THE TRUTH R I P UNCLE

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

Showing the three women descending the stairs was edited out of the broadcast for some reason. Lady #2 looked a bit like actress Marie Windsor. Lady #3 was a teacher and would have appreciated that amount of money. Teachers were paid peanuts in the 1960s. These latest batch of episodes have been great due to the absence of Don Ameche and his "prosecuting attorney" demeanor.

[@davidfritz2957]

I would have been funny if, when Kitty asked, "Who was Jimmy Carter?" the guy had answered, "A future President of the United States." LOL

[@jacquelinebell6201]

I thought of that too😅

[@kristabrewer9363]

Well, I gotta say, for the first time in a LONG time, I actually liked all THREE games

[@ironduke2000]

Very interesting to hear Carson's take on circus people. Also, that's quite a vest he's wearing, and I'm not usually one to pay much attention to attire.

[@rhondagiesbrecht4901]

Interesting seeing the ads :)

[@michaelcox436]

"Colored boy" ugh the Fifties

[@leesher1845]

Loved the TV commercials.

[@kittiesshortie5011]

I disagree about the word colored… that was the polite term. Black was considered insulting.

[@karlabanks4908]

True but “boy” was always insulting and Ralph knew what he was saying.

[@robertdesantis6205]

Now, it's "people of color." 🤨

[@kenyongray2615]

It is great seeing Betty and Johnny on the panel. Rebecca, the animal trainer was a babe.

[@jacquelinebell6201]

You dont teach any animal thru fear. Discipline but not fear. One dsy they may turn on you. Being the dominant one in the relationship is not the same as fear.

[@robertdesantis6205]

Like using shock collars on dogs. They may obey you, but it will be for the wrong reason. 😢

[@keithnaylor1981]

I have a feeling the animal trainer in round two must have got plenty of wolf whistles during her act! First contestant looked like she would be scared of flies, while the third one scared me! The results were surprising!

[@jacquelinebell6201]

Interesting, we got to see one of their ads! I admit I like the old old ads.

[@woody5551]

Trying to fight depression?, try Anacin. And don't forget a relaxing Salem cigarette!

[@rosemarylytle7537]

It was a wow for me

[@kenbrown438]

OMG , is Kitty wearing a helmet !!!!????

[@DanieltheTruebadour]

Regarding the pest guy, I saw a cartoon once that showed a fellow hearing the Acme Pest Control logo. He's kneeling, he doing a whip and the ants are marching in formation. "We don't kill em, ma'am. We just control 'em."

[@geraldkatz7986]

I firmly believe in not punishing the past for the changes in norms of the present, but ow Ralph Bellamy using the C-word stung. I know he didn't mean anything by it. It was the term used back then, and it's not really a bad word today but it is uncomfortable. I still remember Polly Bergen joking "segregated" many episodes ago but in reference between Irish Pubs and British Pubs.

[@buffbill-t2i]

People of color is used all the time now, that's not far from what Ralph was referencing.

[@bettymiller1929]

No- he meant it- did you see how he refused to clap #3- he is a total jerk

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

Man #3 in Game #1 Lady #1 in Game #2 Man #1 in Game #3

[@tjwash2]

First he asks the black guy who the colored guy was, then when asked to repeat the question he said colored boy, then in the parking lot he got his ass kicked.

[@karlabanks4908]

After Bellamy referred to another black man as “boy” the Champ looked like he was thinking, no matter how hard he worked, that’s how many white peoples would still see him as a boy. Then it dawned on him & he rose up like I am a man and can kick everyone’s ass!😅

[@doctorjames7454]

I didn't get the Kitty "sendoff"... did she stay away for long?

[@ImaCOTV]

Doctor James This was December 4, 1961. Kitty and he husband, Moss Hart, were off to their winner home in Palm Springs. Sixteen days after this broadcast Moss Harry died of a heart attack.

[@doctorjames7454]

Oh, very sad.

[@mijraachieng8034]

not long enough, I never liked her

[@kristabrewer9363]

@@ImaCOTV awww that's sad (but at least she came back) She's was the only original panelist on the newer version of the show

[@LindaKLee]

I absolutely love Kitty Carlyle! Not only was she the original member of the show going into the 70s but if I’m not mistaken I think she outlived most of them as well very classy lady. That is very sad that her husband died so young.

[@hellokitty777able]

The circus lady was cute as a button. Her and Johnny would have made a cute couple.

[@nicholasshawnvincent6714]

Tom Polson

[@sbalman]

"Colored boy" I was born in 1953 ane, even at age eight I knew that would have been an horrible thing to say because of the family that taught me. Those who think that was "normal" at that time are wrong. There were racists and nonracists, just like now.

[@susanseverance9683]

Agree -- it was cringeworthy.

[@jacquelinebell6201]

Ralph was from a very different era, even for that time. It made me cringe. I have not heard any other panellists on these shows say that. They mostly are respectful.

[@bettymiller1929]

I used to like Ralph Belomey until he referred to a black boxer as “a colored boy” Also TWICE he refused to clap for Davey Moore. Kitty refused once Racist we’re common back then

[@karlabanks4908]

I saw that too Bellamy looked peeved but on the other shows, Kitty clapped for pretty much everyone including black people & very complimentary towards black women.

[@jimmygoodrich9590]

To all the people upset with the word colored it was the term used at that time also remenber the terms negro black african american and person of color have been used also and of course more offensive terms

[@christopherjones8517]

Ralph colored boy, c’om please!

[@woody5551]

...and he was the one of the panel that didn't applaud at the end.

[@rosemarylytle7537]

Thank you! And my respect for panel diminished....😑

[@rosemarylytle7537]

@@woody5551 I saw that ... remember trading places! He wasn't acting

[@NoFunNoHope]

person of color Ralph, c'om!

[@LindaKLee]

@@rosemarylytle7537 you are so right I know I knew him from somewhere

[@vickihshallenberger3644]

OMG. Animal trainer lady should be ashamed of herself! First She has a gun with her in the ring and doesn't reward the animals! She punishes them! Grrrrrrr

[@HannibalFan52]

The real animal trainer, #1, was never asked how she trained her animals. it was the two imposters who answered that question, and they don't have to tell the truth. Therefore, you can't be sure that they were giving the correct information. The gun is for protection, in case the animals get out of hand. Even the best trained wild animals are still *wild*, not domesticated like dogs and horses. So actually, the gun is rarely used except in an emergency. I agree wholeheartedly that animal abuse should NEVER happen, but any animal trainer worth his salt knows that a reward system works better than fear. That has been known for thousands of years. The Ancient Greek general Xenophon wrote a treatise on training horses using gentleness and rewards; his work is the foundation for the training of the Lippizaner statllions of the Spanish Riding School in Vienna.

[@juangalt3496]

Ralph Bellamy - "the colored boy..." at 3:48

[@miamidolphinsfan]

well it was a different time.....

[@juangalt3496]

Think it affected a future time?

[@miamidolphinsfan]

I'll be 57 on the 23rd & I remember a time when it was still acceptable to call folks "colored"....that lasted until the late 1960's

[@juangalt3496]

I'm almost 70 and I too remember. Then black, then African Americans. I find it curious that black students at some colleges today are wanting segregated living quarters and "safe spaces".

[@nelsonricardo3729]

Somebody tell the NAACP!

[@mijraachieng8034]

"colored boy"?

[@murielevans9450]

Watch it PUNK !! That a my family

[@joeambrose3260]

@@murielevans9450 He's quoting Ralph at 3:48

[@leesher1845]

It was a different time

[@kristabrewer9363]

Yea, I thin EVERYBODY noticed that! but growing up, I always preferred to "that coloured person " to "that black person." To me, it sounded more polite

[@walkingtrails7776]

@@murielevans9450 Calm down .. he is giving a "QUOTE" ..notice the "QUOTATION" marks? Do you know what thEY mean??"""""""""""""""""" or as with alot of people these days YOU JUMP to a conclusion because you DONT know all the facts. Like what QUOTATION MARKS ARE FOR""""""" """""look it up.

[@buckoneal7483]

Whines the colored boy that went blind!

[@patriciamooney928]

Yikes! Did he say colored boy?