Touhou Lotus Land Story - Bad Apple!! BGM

[@unfunniestman]

when the theme for your stage is 30 times more popular than your theme

[@Ztenam976]

The drawings of the first games were so genuinely cute

[@TheSwiftHedgehog]

I must be like the only one who loves ZUN's art style.

[@flumptybumpty8745]

I like it. It's iconic.

[@begierde_des_zauberer]

You're not the only one lol

[@Densester]

Oh it looks fine in the PC-98 days but when he tried to go a lil less chibi...oh god.

[@kiyan4607]

nope, not just you

[@sabinastrash6813]

no, 8 years later you’re still not

[@numberc8420]

I just realized it's difficult to find Bad Apple covers not based off the popular one.

[@YuuyaKZMI]

The popular one is quite good in and of itself.

[@Archimedes.5000]

Well the track itself was never really popular, same as most other themes from PC-98 touhou Alstroemeria Records was one of the few that made remixes of tracks from these games

[@pigpro98]

wdym cover? This is the original, the other ones are remixes.

[@numberc8420]

@@pigpro98 I didn't call this a cover, I said whenever people make Bad Apple remixes, they base it off the Alstromeria version instead of this one.

[@Purplespectrum98]

Who cares if the man can't draw? He conduct music like a god! (And have you seen how much fan art has appeared in the fan base?.....The art thing was no problem by then XD )

[@kerokero_furogu]

These are pretty good chibi renditions for the style that was popular during the time. His later characters which were drawn more modern were pretty bad, but this is pretty good.

[@kaisercalvin1742]

In PC 98 Touhou, I find the art quite nice. Then in EoSD, it turns into... Well, Sakuya's portrait says it all.

[@firdaushidayatullah4911]

He may be can't draw well, but his design concept itself is amazing. The fact that the community can interpret Touhou characters in doujin fan art or manga is enough proof for that.

[@Purplespectrum98]

I must say in light of this comment I made an extremely long time ago, ZUN has actually improved on his art in more recent mainline games. It's super heartwarming to see someone master their craft even more than they already have.

[@seronymus]

@@Purplespectrum98 actually his style was always at the least cute. Technical skill means nothing without creativity. Normies who gawk over photorealistic sketches - behold faxes except slower and worse! - are dumb.

[@sophieb.8753]

I know the popularity of the vocal version versus the original is the root of a lot of controversy~ but without it, I would never have discovered this song. Or Touhou, in general.

[@Cy3qi]

Sophie B. I like the factor that the stage theme of the boss is so much more popular than said boss, and a vocal of said stage theme is so much more popular than the original

[@Archimedes.5000]

People who can't appreciate Alstroemeria Records remixes are the real normies lol Imagine shitting on groups like IOSYS and COOL&CREATE for popularising the game. It's the same thing here

[@purplelord8531]

the vocal version is great, this is legendary

[@almagest77707]

What a peasant

[@syrup7843]

Same! Showed up in my recommended one day and it took me a month of listening to it nonstop before I went thru the comments and found out there was even a game involved with the song lmao And now... obsession 😂

[@tastykimchiOFDOOM]

I'm still astounded at how even over 10 years later, ZUN's art still looks just about the same. At least he's gotten much better at costume designs.

[@tk-5268]

20 years later and it's still the same lmao

[@tastykimchiOFDOOM]

@@tk-5268 Lets hope it keeps going for at least another 10 years!

[@tk-5268]

@@tastykimchiOFDOOM love that you are still around a decade later! See you in another 10!

[@Ohrami]

@@tk-5268I will assume you are both around 30 years old. In 10 years, you will both have turned 40. That means there's approximately a 3% chance that at least one of you will have died by then. It's even higher if you're any older. So you may in fact not see him in 10 years.

[@tk-5268]

@@Ohrami I'll take that bet

[@ZaGorudan]

Because one exclamation point wasn't enough!(!!!!!)

[@SweetCreeper132PL]

Yeah

[@HyperVanilo]

Underrated comment is underrated

[@QS1597]

Hyper Vanilo Because one “underrated” wasn’t enough, you made your reply very underrated. For this reason, it is underrated! (!!!!)

[@flameheartyin8271]

The original version is poisonous! My god I cannot stop repeating this clip XD

[@NobleDemonTim]

The rushjob artwork doesn't bother me at all, especially when ZUN one man army'd the entire Touhou Project all by himself.

[@purplelord8531]

I don't get it, what's so bad about the touhou art?

[@megamanxz-fb7oz]

@@purplelord8531 it was just... Look at remilia in eosd

[@purplelord8531]

@@megamanxz-fb7oz better than I could ever draw

[@megamanxz-fb7oz]

@@purplelord8531 yeah but that doesn't mean it's good

[@EngiNetion]

@@purplelord8531 well, it depends on taste, i like art in touhou games a lot

[@ColdGoldLazarus]

I honestly like both versions a lot.

[@Archimedes.5000]

Plot twist: there are more than just 2 versions

[@animatoryash6107]

@@Archimedes.5000 wha- really?

[@Archimedes.5000]

@@animatoryash6107well yeah 1. Original (FM26 version) 2. Original (FM86 version) 3. Mystic Square's Special MIX (FM26 version) 4. Mystic Square's Special MIX (FM86 version) 5. Akyu's Untouched Score rearrangement 6. Alstroemeria Records' arrangement 7. - ∞. Other doujin arrangements/remixes of all of the above "versions" Oh and there is also 2 extra versions (FM26 and FM86) from the trial version of Lotus Land Story

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

@@Archimedes.5000 ok

[@spaghettiking7312]

The Touhou Project is the greatest blessing the internet has given us.

[@kidredegg2the186]

indeed it is👍🏻

[@spongebobfan78]

Who likes the original than the famous one?

[@spongebobfan78]

I prefer this.

[@MusicWithDan]

+ Spongebobfan78 Me too.

[@HealingVoice39]

Yep

[@HealingVoice39]

Except the original is now overrated

[@GuppytheCat]

+prstont7 underrated*

[@THESURGEKNIGHTS]

What a beautiful time capsule

[@chorvaqueen]

ZUN art is best art

[@drap13]

Wow ese Zun a creado muchas músicas, es increíble.

[@GeneraleRus]

And to think the first 5 games on the NEC PC-9800 were all a one-man show: programming, graphics, music and testing!

[@JulianAP_music]

This feels like a parallel universe compared to the remix

[@psychosanity8164]

I mean it's a bullet hell universe that revolves around ZUNpets.

[@HyperVanilo]

Which remix?

[@ConfuzedAnimeFan]

Sometimes when I look at his PC-98 stuff, I stop and wonder if ZUN's art really has improved or not. '3' It is certainly original though. XD

[@bigcardboardbox8574]

Why would you need to change perfection

[@TorutheRedFox]

why does this sound so much like the YM2612 edit: oh I get it now, the PC-98 sound chip is a part of the OPN family, just like the YM2612

[@CreativiTimothy]

It's impressive for a game designer to design the game, do the art, AND do the music as well. Usually you have different people do different parts of the game design since most people specialize in just one thing I hope one day I'll be like that. I can play this song on piano, and I'm majoring in computer science. My art skills are good for drawing non-humans/anime, but wanna work on that for anime/manga

[@EvanPang-w4i]

I swear I heard this coming from my dad’s old pc when I was really young

[@nguyenkhangle-ll7zn]

Dammmm

[@AldinRamic]

Is your dad still alive? If so, can you ask him about touhou?

[@EvanPang-w4i]

@@AldinRamic I just asked, he said “how did you hear about this game? It’s so old: I’m surprised that you know about it”

[@AldinRamic]

@@EvanPang-w4i Oh my god, he did play the games. And how did you respond when he said that?

[@kidredegg2the186]

😮😮😮

[@CathyMoon656]

this is so nostalgic to me even though this game was literally made before I was even born yet.

[@2hunoob99]

same(i didn't even played the pc-98 games)

[@kidredegg2the186]

everyone on the internet is going to talk about the namco remix but not the real stuff it’s so darn goood😭

[@ИбрахимИхмадилдеев-ы5у]

I love it!

[@MichCusson]

Zuns art has always been unique we thought ❤❤

[@EphidelDarkheart]

@Skittyism Sorry to reply to an old comment, but "The Landing" by Nobuo Uematsu was also 90s music, and it still sounds amazing today. ZUN was just limited by the technology he was working with here. Not saying that's a problem - he still performed exceptionally despite that, so his PC-98 music also sounds great. This sort of timelessness is the sign of a fantastic composer, as Uematsu and ZUN both are.

[@segasonic4352]

i like this more than the alstroemeria records version also i love zun's art style

[@KieraWaffles]

Both Marisa and Reimu look so different in the later games... wow...

[@stickgamesfan]

I love this

[@Wizzmane]

Kinda reminds of the java games I used to play on my dad's phone when I was 4 lol

[@CyberiaKid]

the real bad apple

[@JoeSmith-st9lc]

My, these two girls have grown

[@danielwalton0416]

You said it, joe

[@DokuRemon]

:(

[@kidredegg2the186]

Indeed they did 😢

[@Mudkep_]

Marisa's isosceles triangle thumb tho.

[@InebriatedGalvatron]

He can draw better than I... the best I can draw is stick people...

[@Raymai97]

Now I know the original version of this music. Liked!

[@hawaiidkw1]

The vibe I get from this is "Genesis sidescrolling beat-'em-up set in China". Make of it what you will.

[@bitchlasagna4720]

same LOL

[@Romanov117]

ZUN's art isn't so bad, He gave his best.

[@rei1789]

I dunno why the nomico version didn't include the other sections of this original song. I still get goosebumps when the tone changes at 0:33 and 0:56.

[@zerog2]

Love this game can't stop playing it! :)

[@Choujeen]

Should be set on repeat.

[@changvasejarik62]

Everyone wants Mima to return(myself included) but with how popular bad apple became I think Elly deserves to return in the next game with Yuuka.

[@2hunoob99]

Yuuka alredy did

[@welp5953]

best one

[@garnettivan5499]

This much awesomer than original.!! Bring backs memories!!!

[@hikaruhyuga3884]

this is the original version

[@garnettivan5499]

yeah what i mean is The vocal ver sorry

[@ChronoTango]

Finally a good version and without the video

[@arevaleid]

Touhou music is *HELLA LIT*

[@Tesana]

Although I do like the Alstroemeria version as the lyrics are cool and the tune is catchy, I do prefer the original as it has more musical variation to it.

[@p3el_]

This is god tier

[@MAX-yz9ew]

Ufff This is the good song

[@kiyan4607]

i can still hear the lyrics of the other bad apple

[@Arrakhis]

@EOCB nahh she does read, her dream is not just about rivalry with reimu but suprass her mentor lady Mima and her mother as greatest magician

[@NekoSan122]

Hey, please don't insult ZUN... (you'll wake the touhou fans)

[@antjecramer5324]

Thats marsia and remu? I play touhou 8 to much

[@ruby8192]

Yup.

[@GuppytheCat]

Definitely marsia and remu.

[@hashtagNight]

+Guppy the Cat i nearly spat out my drink while reading this

[@GuppytheCat]

hashtagNight ;)

[@arisen7513]

Marisa's been around since Story of Eastern Wonderland.

[@dojomojomofo]

The SYNC.ART'S CD "Takamizu Yume Futatsu" (霊水夢双) has a nice illustration of old and new Reimu on it.

[@KieraWaffles]

@TheRetroGun I'm quite aware of that, thank you.

[@reisenbutimyimyum]

wahhaaha

[@mewpudding1234]

so i have a question thats been bugging me since i started palying these games...how come in fan-art everyone makes reimu's hair brown but in the game its purple like this?

[@mazatl5275]

It has been 9 years...and nobody answered Lmao

[@ScienceDiscoverer]

@@mazatl5275 dat's depressin!

[@mkmac8929]

her hair is only purple in the pc-98 touhou games possibly due to color palette limitations. in the newer windows games her hair is brown. thank you for waiting 9 years for your answer.

[@mazatl5275]

@@mkmac8929 NINE YEARS LMAO

[@timdowden7427]

wow good vid i love touhou

[@Kocudas]

It's getting better... I mean, look at Youmu for Ten Desires... :)

[@Fierce0Deity0Link]

I think the description should mention ZUN at some point.

[@beepboop6924]

So many people probably don't know this exists 😂

[@mewpudding1234]

@Aeromusique oooh okay! that makes sense! and i prefer the purple too.

[@NekoStark]

That Reimu reminds me of that girl from Rurouni Kenshi

[@laughingfurry]

@EOCB that's actually just one of many jokes within the community. Marisa does read.

[@biglippy36]

I almost though Marisa was Remilia cuz' she looks so old.

[@Haimer098]

A random human from 2022 appeared

[@Zerviscos]

i like them before. they're oddly cute and innocent looking. but ZUN said that Touhou is time-related. They grow old. So particularly maybe Reimu and Marisa are 18 year olds now.

[@KaiTenSatsuma]

Wait, what? I thought I was listening to CaveStory for a few seconds there

[@ech070]

Wow! I should play this game :D

[@Sorrilan]

hehehe, gotta love that 8-bit

[@L4Vo5]

16-bit

[@reinreinie]

When the song is only 1:23 and you became tired of pushing the reply button many times you it to be re-extended

[@遠藤さ-w5l]

ジャパニーズ！！

[@mega_mango]

はい

[@EOCB]

@theRealPlaidRabbit Windows Marisa apparently doesn't care about reading them, just owning them..

[@KieraWaffles]

@ViperKirby I was referring to ZUN's style as well...

[@f.u.m.o.5669]

One of the few videos that actually uses the one from LLS and not Akyu's Untouched Score.

[@kevinr.9733]

I have a good solution to the "Alstroemeria Records Bad Apple!! vs. Lotus Land Story Bad Apple!!" debate. Just consider the former an original composition that borrows melodic material from the latter. That way you can appreciate both on their own merits. (Seriously, though, the vocal arrangement has a b-section melody that is completely unique to it, while not using the b- or c-section melodies of this piece in any capacity. It's at least 50% original song, using less than 33% of this track.)

[@BlazingMagpie]

But you have to admit that he got better somewhere between 10 and 11.

[@piddlingpick5964]

Is it just me, or is this song not actually at 160/161 BPM consistently throughout?

[@scroogemcduckenjoyer]

btw who create the vocal remixes?

[@98MariMari98]

Alstroemeria Records (Masayoshi Minashima arranged it and Nomico did the vocals).

[@biglippy36]

@SamusAran627 I know, She just reminds me of her in the older games.

[@BlazingMagpie]

I's say he started getting better since 11th game. Of course, art of 12th was even better.

[@EOCB]

@Arrakhis that's PC-98 Marisa, and pretty much nothing PC-98 is canon any more.

[@henritje19]

@VocaUtau yeah older they kind look like 5-10 year olds while they look mid-teens in later games

[@vlagamer3440]

(lyrics from vocal version) Nagareteku toki no naka de demo kedarusa ga hora guruguru mawatte Watashi kara hanareru kokoro mo mienai wa sou shiranai Jibun kara ugoku koto mo naku toki no sukima ni nagasare tsuzukete Shiranai wa mawari no koto nado watashi wa watashi sore dake Yume miteru? Nani mo mitenai? Kataru mo muda na jibun no kotoba Kanashimu nante tsukareru dake yo nani mo kanjizu sugoseba ii no Tomadou kotoba ataerarete mo jibun no kokoro tada uwa no sora Moshi watashi kara ugoku no naraba subete kaeru no nara kuro ni suru Konna jibun ni mirai wa aru no? Konna sekai ni watashi wa iru no? Ima setsunai no? Ima kanashii no? Jibun no koto mo wakaranai mama Ayumu koto sae tsukareru dake yo hito no koto nado shiri mo shinaiwa Konna watashi mo kawareru no nara moshi kawareru no nara shiro ni naru? Nagareteku toki no naka de demo kedarusa ga hora guruguru mawatte Watashi kara hanareru kokoro mo mienaiwa sou shiranai Jibun kara ugoku koto mo naku toki no sukima ni nagasare tsuzukete Shiranai wa mawari no koto nado watashi wa watashi sore dake Yume miteru? Nani mo mitenai? Kataru mo muda na jibun no kotoba Kanashimu nante tsukareru dake yo nani mo kanjizu sugoseba ii no Tomadou kotoba ataerarete mo jibun no kokoro tada uwa no sora Moshi watashi kara ugoku no naraba subete kaeru no nara kuro ni suru Muda na jikan ni mirai wa aru no? Konna tokoro ni watashi wa iru no? Watashi no koto o iitai naraba kotoba ni suru no nara "roku de nashi" Konna tokoro ni watashi wa iru no? Konna jikan ni watashi wa iru no? Konna watashi mo kawareru no nara moshi kawareru no nara shiro ni naru? Ima yume miteru? Nani mo mitenai? Kataru mo muda na jibun no kotoba? Kanashimu nante tsukareru dake yo nani mo kanjizu sugoseba ii no Tomadou kotoba ataerarete mo jibun no kokoro tada uwa no sora Moshi watashi kara ugoku no naraba subete kaeru no nara kuro ni suru Ugoku no naraba ugoku no naraba subete kowasu wa subete kowasu wa Kanashimu naraba kanashimu naraba watashi no kokoro shiroku kawareru? Anata no koto mo watashi no koto mo subete no koto mo mada shiranai no Omoi mabuta wo aketa no naraba subete kowasu no nara kuro ni nare!!!

[@Archimedes.5000]

Finally not Akyu, but which version is that? You still somehow got copyrighted though...

[@YuutaTogashi0707]

The original with the 86 sound card It seems most people think of the 26k version when thinking of the original version

[@cruisetheautisticboy994]

Sounds like SEGA Genesis music to me.

[@Verivini]

probably mistaken for young alice when she used her grimoire

[@TheRetroGun]

@VocaUtau before this one, Marisa had red hair.

[@rwall514]

I like this version better. It's got that FM drum attempt that tries so hard.

[@LiveErrors]

You will know Elie

[@DarkEcho32]

there is not,she didn't appear untill Perfect Cherry Blossom.There are a few characters other than Marisa with long blonde hair though,so it was probably one of them.

[@LordAlexander-x5s]

REALLY? I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THE PURPLE WAS REPLACED WITH BLACK.

[@wonseok_song]

Photoshop Flowey gun part reminds me this music..

[@cheesebottle2844]

Undertale is a rip off of undertale

[@Cy3qi]

Cheese Bottle uh say that again, slowly this time

[@kyr2005]

@theRealPlaidRabbit but doesn't she pretty much steal everything?

[@JunkoLuna]

i like your profile pic *thumbs up*

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

It seems like this PC-98 theme isn't as overrated as i thought. This is very good and catchy, and is totally better than the overrated vocal arrange with 76M views, but there are way better themes from the same franchise, like vanishing dream from touhou 3. 0:03 and 0:55 are the best parts, by the way

[@RinKagamine4Ever]

The original is good, the remix is good, Bad Apple is good. In my opinion, anyway.

[@EngiNetion]

Good Apple

[@jjwebb232]

you're right ... Marisa doesn't have red hair! xD

[@Rockgamerpro75]

the start sounds like ¿heartche [UNDERTALE]?

[@2hunoob99]

Toby Fox probably took inspo from it

[@HyperVanilo]

@@2hunoob99 You should've known that he is a Touhou fan

[@AldinRamic]

​@HyperVanilo Also, didn't he include this in big shot and your best nightmare?

[@Prophecyx01]

I know.