Tour de France 2024 - Jonas Vingegaard : "I still believe, I won't go down without fight Pogacar"

[@devlish668]

Jonas is a class act as a cyclist and as a human being 👏 👏

[@emanuelemorelli6128]

Jonas' performance would have cracked Tadej 2022-2023 version. Visma's tactic was perfect. (Maybe they only missed Sepp Kuss to make hard pace for another 2/3 km before Jonas' attack). Nobody expected an alien's performance from Tadej

[@timwong6818]

He makes no excuses and just admit Tadej is in better shape. Huge respect to him.

[@tmarkussen]

Pogi is in 10% better shape than his previous best. I call bullshit.

[@timwong6818]

@@tmarkussen What BS? Last year's Pogi is likely to just explode on long climbs, and this year he is doing fine. It's fair to say Pogi is better than before The estimation of his climbing avergae power is 450w, if you compare this result to his record last year, the improvement is roughtly consistent.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

@@tmarkussen Your mom

[@richiejames928]

he speaks with such respect. a real gentleman n the bike and in interviews. great ambassador for the sport and an incredible athlete

[@recordednowhere]

I feel that one big win for Jonas is that he made a lot of people respect and even like him more this year.

[@Pawsk]

Really? I’ve never seen more negative comments about him than this year.

[@Rune__]

@@Pawski have never seen more positive comments than this year 🙃

[@Pawsk]

@@Rune__ Odd that experiences can be that different, he must really have been much more hated the other years than i noticed.

[@brianmchugh3757]

Agree. I’ve never been a fan of his riding style and certainly not of his team, but my respect for him has increased immensely. I don’t think he will be able to come back this year,but like Pogacar came in ready for this edition, I envision JV ready for battle next year. It will be amazing to see these two rivals go mano-to-mano for years to come.

[@recordednowhere]

@@brianmchugh3757 yes!

[@Rune__]

BIG BALLS JONAS Keeps on fighting 👏🏼

[@telmolicious]

Jonas with the cojones 🥜

[@climbnride58]

Jonas is a class act.

[@Pomi3001]

As a Pogi fan I kind of hope it is over, but I am far from comfortable. 😊On one hand Jonas has to believe, Pogi was saying the same last year when he was 7 minutes behind. On the other hand it really is not over. There are crashes and there is Pogi's history of having a bad day in the third week when he could lose several minutes. So while I hope he wins Jonas will certainly keep trying, and even if he ends up in the second place it is still impressive!

[@tonyg3091]

It ain’t over. It will be sorta kinda almost over if Pog goes to the final TT with 3 minutes and some change to Jonas and 5 minutes to Remco. Not before that. The main pain is still ahead, nothing is for sure at this point

[@andyinabox]

As a neutral fan I hope it's not over, it will be much more fun to watch if JV can take back some minutes. But as someone with a life outside of cycling I kind of hope it is over so I'm not glued to my TV all week 😅

[@tonyg3091]

@@andyinaboxWatch just 19 and 20 stages

[@silviastrandberg3634]

Keeping my 🤞 for that a bad day needs to come 😅 ​@@tonyg3091

[@stuartstuart321]

It's over

[@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc]

jonas should be super proud of how he and the team rode and even if he loses the tour he totally won a major battle with some awful odds and as a pogi fan this along with just how honest he has been about this last stage has really won me over

[@BlackFlag111]

He is a champ.

[@LeeLee-fi7mx]

I hope he can make a comeback, I really like his never quit attitude. He just keeps going, and I have never seen him call his team back to help pull him up a climb no matter how gone or spent he is. But even if he can't come back, I'm sure he will have better preparations next year to get stronger to try to reclaim the yellow jersey.

[@janlazar11]

Comeback? This guy never left, he's been here as fit as ever since the very beginning of the TDF. The kind of performance he showed in St.15 is maybe once in a lifetime thing, unbelievable stuff from both of them. He deserves nothing but utter respect. Comeback?Where? He's at absolute top right now. Pogacar is just otherworldly...

[@LeeLee-fi7mx]

@@janlazar11 Comeback..... pretty self explanatory. He is used to winning. Comeback from 2nd place to first place and the yellow jersey, like the last 2 years.

[@byhsu6140]

​@LeeLee-fi7mx well if you talk about comeback from 2nd place, well the race is not over yet. His last position in TdF was 1st place in 2023. 2024 TdF still in progress.

[@ekm3820]

That’s the spirit 👍🏾

[@yucelmutlusoy]

This guy is 💯 % class act and sportsmanship 👍💪

[@Mike-zx1kx]

Heroic riding from both TEAM and Jonas Sunday! Even retrospectively the absolute right strategy! Keep it up! Still a mountainous week to Nice! Go go go!

[@Goldeeliza]

Exactly! It was the right strategy... Sometimes you win and sometimes you don't.

[@lucabertok]

The Tour is not over, we have a whole week in front of us. I think that Jonas is in great shape, yestarday he climbed fast but Tadej was even better. When Tadej is in shape, focused and a bit angry is unstoppable

[@jamaalwarsame8130]

Bravo 👏 👏 jonasvingagaar great champion 🏆 💪 no excuses for injury or training nothing he except the better man win the day but still believe he can do it Bravo jonasvingagaar

[@cjkelly3691]

This is good clean competition. Stop trying to create something out of nothing. This is good. Class in action.

[@user-gt1wr1vh3i]

Jonas is a champion, but so is Tadej... this is an epic rivalry and each Domestique has a job to do, so we will see how this tour finishes. Does anyone recall that Tadej had won this tour 2 times prior to Jonas? Tadej has not finished any Tour de Frances with anything less than a podium finish so far... 4 for 4 is amazing.

[@MrPete8118]

And the same goes for Jonas:)

[@user-gt1wr1vh3i]

@@MrPete8118 for sure... 2 great champions! ❤️ 🚴‍♀️

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Saying bs like "finally showed balls" is not worthy of a champion. That is trash filth talk

[@jamaalwarsame8130]

Bravo 👏 👏 jonasvingagaar great champion 🏆 no excuses for injury no excuses for prepation better man win the day but the toure is not over yet Bravo 👏 💪 wingagaar the toure is not over yet he's not goin down without fight

[@Goldeeliza]

If Jonas keeps on fighting, I'll keep on watching Le Tour. He might not win, but we will have some great racing and maybe another stage win 🤞🏼

[@joecruiser]

My respect for Jonas.

[@mukhtaramin7483]

It's really commendable how honest JV is here. So many people trying to make excuses for him because of the crash (which of course affected him). Folks - take him at his word when he says i'm perfectly fine - TP is just strong this year.

[@Pawsk]

Maybe its true, i dont see why he would lie on the other hand, its not very believable that Pogacar went from slightly worse than Vingegaard on the long steep climbs to being so much stronger that Vingegaard looks amateurish. So honestly i feel the truth must be in between, i simply dont believe a rider can improve that much.

[@remcolangemaire]

@@Pawsk what are you even saying or suggesting? and @mukhtaramin7483 he is indeed riding his best performance, but that doesn't mean he could have been a few % better that certainly matters. We will never know, but we know the facts about recovering time, which wasn't optimal for JV.

[@Pawsk]

@@remcolangemaire Its not a complicated comment to be honest. You say we know it wasnt optimal for Jonas. Yet Jonas claims to have been performing better numbers than ever before on this stage. Which shows that his preparation while impressively fast didnt cost anything in terms of his form at this point in the tour. Hence, you either have to say 1. Jonas is lying, and the crash did affect his numbers or 2. Jonas is telling the truth and Pogacar is currently miles ahead of Vingegaard. There is really no other option is there?

[@Pawsk]

@@remcolangemaire What i then added, is that in my opinion its very unlikely that Pogacar went from slightly worse than Jonas in these type of climbs to ridiculously stronger than the strongest version of him ever. So to me the truth must be that Jonas isnt quite performing as he normally does.

[@ImZetKaa]

​@@Pawskmaybe he would have been even better than he is today without the crash. Yes, he does great numbers today, but who know what it could have been without the crash. Hopefully we will see next year :)

[@bens.6458]

Keep fighting Jonas, you are a class act! I’m going for Pogi, but what a performance from everyone.

[@ahwinds9256]

This man has gotten the heart, attitude and mentality of a true champion. 👍👏

[@fiddleronthebike]

seeing Vingegaard fighting this way day after day - after he was in intense care 3 month ago and did not even know wether he could race 3 weeks ago - and then asking him wether he has mental strength... a bit stupid

[@heidewatzka]

100% true!

[@silverarrowslk]

Hmm were Visma exaggerating the extent of his injuries though? I can’t see how he could have trained at the level required when having punctured lung and fractured ribs

[@Soli11]

@@silverarrowslk No, they weren't. Someone who went down in the same crash as Jonas, had very similar injuries too, is also riding the Tour and is in good shape.

[@mrsewe417]

@@silverarrowslk Stef Cras was the one hurt the most in the crash and he is doing great as number 15 in the GC, so Jonas being here in the shape he is in is not a miracle.

[@HouseMD519]

Jonas said in interviews in the beginning of the Tour that he was only able to start training with intervals around the last half of may... So anyone who has been riding their bike a lot and trained just a little bit seriously would know that it is incredibly impressive that he has reached the level he has now in the Tour on such short time.

[@rolandcolavizza5368]

That is the attitude of a champion , not here to ride for second place. I wish Remco would have the same mentality , he under rates himself.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Remco getting 3rd is absolutely insanely amazing, you're really not understanding how crazy TDF is... it's his first tour, he is so young. Insane performance, honestly

[@michellebergeron574]

Huge Respect for Jonas 💪

[@willjones7132]

Top three are all deserving, riding hard, and keeping good heads; great race, and era.

[@alinapopescu872]

His girls are his strength. Ride well, ride safe, Jonas!

[@kasperbroberg2242]

Im a big fan of Tadej but find it very strange how he has managed to improve 5-8% or so from last year. If Jonas really produced his best ever numbers yesterday, any person with a little bit of cycling knowledge would bet their house he had dropped Pogacar. At their level, its hard to even improve by 1%...

[@J-cz7yv]

Supposedly posted on cycling news march 8 2024: “Matxin is the best scout in the world and has top contacts in the world, as a tactician he is 0 and persistently interferes in the work of DS, the only DS expert in that team at an acceptable level is Fabio Baldato, 2+2 is always 4, if Pogacar is so far was trained by a quasi-trainer who only prescribed endurance rides of 5W/kg and FTP 15 min intervals 2 times a week after zone 2 and the rest of his training was based on prescribing training from training peaks, imagine what can happen when a top-level coach takes over Sola, if one Yates progressed from 32 years old after 1 year of working with him, how much Pogi will progress 0, UAE has the best TT setup in the world, Pogacar finally has a coach who trains him with a Core device for heat training and for the first time you could see Pogacar in Strade Bianche to wear Core attached to a heart rate strap, he finally has real training and intervals for hills for the first time in his career and he will have properly conducted altitude training after the Giro, I can't tell you how I know all that, but believe me I have insight firsthand in all that, how else would I show you Pogacar's part from training on 24.2.2024 and that his 349w is 5.33w/kg as a base training and FTP 431w, that he will be 20% better is frankly a little too hasty, but if could predict for the Giro Pogacar will be at 65 kg, at both TTs he will win, at 15 min he will have 7.3 w/kg, at 20 min 7 w/kg, at 30 min hill 6.7 and at 40+ min hill he will have 6.5 w/ kg and on the Tour kg less and the strength is the same, so if Vingegard gets that from me, he has”

[@essexbirds1870]

I think the notion he is at his best is complete junk !...

[@AngelofBOOM]

Why is it strange? Pogi's prep for the Tour was less that ideal (due to his fractured wrist).

[@Tilenm]

Because Jonas was cooked after the whole day in the stage 15. Visma plays now offensively and they were in the lead in the stage 15...and they don't have enough good domsetique. Sepp is not here, Primož as well, Wout van Aert is also recovering. And all this results in more energy loss for Jonas, which in the end plays a big role in a climb like in the stage 15. Last couple of years Visma had a brilliant team where they managed to crack Tadej. This year is vice-versa + Tadej is much more better prepared. All respect to Jonas - je rides exceptionally as well, but I really hope Pogačar wins this Tour.

[@bikerbruce1988]

Jonas, the little bitch, is just throwing shade. The reporter should have asked, “if you’re at your best numbers, was it a lie that you nor your team knew if you were ready?”

[@Bushi0001]

Now that’s a true rival

[@rodolfomorales7017]

An honest competitor!. Chapeau !

[@maruparra1963]

Incredible recovery after such an accident!

[@user-so3zx9pg7n]

And that's a memtal toughness incomparable to any of his opponents,. Salute to Jonas!

[@rdklkje13]

Can we also just appreciate that Trine, Jonas's wife, is pregnant with their second child. And by the looks of it here must've been pregnant already when the Basque crash happened. This adds a whole other level of stress that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere other than in Danish media. Another level of motivation to recover for Jonas as well, for sure, but still. A mother's stress inevitably affects the baby regardless. And hence the whole family. So extra hat tips to them for this!

[@MarkTomeh]

Jonas is really good here, honest and genuine. But I think he's fully capable of reaching Pogacar level and even going further in the future. He just needs to get to full form.

[@thecoolestmar]

i love jonas so much ❤❤❤❤

[@noele.tongson3433]

that’s the spirit

[@n.heroep2786]

Of course Jonas! He won't stop even if he fall off from podium, that's what champion acts. Jonas doesn't care about 2nd or 3rd. For all his care, if he ends up out of podium, as long as he fight until the fat lady sing, that's what matters for him. Bring it on Jonas!

[@alm0st-man991]

HEAR WHAT THE MAN SAID HE RODE THE BEST EVER ON A CLIMB!! but pog man wason another level..so stop with the nonsense you fanatics. It took big man balls to admit the truth. Great riding jonas stay humble!

[@GregBecker]

To come second to the best rider of this millennium is worth celebrating.

[@MariaEscribano-p7n]

He has beaten him the last 2 years. First time Pogacar wins against Jonas as a Captain. Vingegaard is still the tdf Champ head 2 head

[@elviracatherinetalaoc2070]

JV you’re doing great. I know you’re not 100 percent due to your recent injury. You’re still the defending champion.

[@rof8200]

I think Tadej will do everything to manage heat and food.

[@loladallas-il6py]

Congrats Jonas on your “recovery” . Can we all get your doctors? 😁

[@bikerbruce1988]

Why does he say, “to be honest” so many times?

[@Mr.Bear.]

This is your focus? Really? We all have our mannerisms or style. Jonas is not the most fluently articulate outspoken person in the world. He’s getting better though. What he IS good at is CYCLING. Luckily for those who are fans of the sport. To have this kind of high quality rider in the peloton AND the rivalry with Pogacăr is just fantastic. Unfortunately for some riders the job of dealing with interviews also comes with the job. But as I said he IS getting better at it. And even more when it comes to the nuances in subject matters. He’s more relaxed and seems more willing to address and answer in more nuanced ways than other years at the TDF. With all the crazy press frenzy going on every year that’s not an easy task. Especially for a shy humble guy as Jonas.

[@essexbirds1870]

Difficult to believe he is at his best level......Is that just the narrative in exchange for the stage win the other day ?....Pogacar was very quick to dispel any suggestion that JV was in sub optimal condition.....

[@bette3000]

Pogi said on live interview that he did his best numbers ever...

[@raskolnikov1242]

Was his best performance because that's the normal step-up year after year maybe? Would it have been even better without the accident?

[@TellusJD]

Thats a pretty epic mental. But I have my doubts.

[@nakawesiabia6311]

Don’t expect tadej to have a bad day instead play he won’t put 5minutes on you

[@crispusmahea2135]

He has 2 bad days every tour.

[@nakawesiabia6311]

@@crispusmahea2135 that was then not now so expect him to crack him day by day and yesterday’s stage was in favor of jonas not tadej but the remaining mountain stages are short and not steep and are in favor of tadej so play for jonas not to lose 20 minutes

[@nem3th]

@@crispusmahea2135 Pogacar didnt show any glimpse of weakness or bad day even from Giro. He is super strong, and his team either. Its almost impossibe to set a pace to crack Pogacar and UAE squad by not blowing yourself. Good thing Jonas didnt crack eiither, he is just slower and keeps fighting by not loosing time. They both are true champions.

[@johnpurnell6898]

@@crispusmahea2135Not going to happen this year. All Tadej has to do is follow. Besides Jonas has peaked, which considering his injuries, is still an extremely high condition. But look at Jonas, he is a skeleton, and I’m sure his body is now entering a rapid catabolic rate.

[@mrsewe417]

@@johnpurnell6898 John the doctor. Well spoken. Good with some inside info that Jonas has peaked and soon will enter a rapid catabolic state. Here we all were speculating about Jonas so fantastic that you wanna share your wisdom with everyone.

[@user-mr3eb2rw2u]

Classs athlete but poga is showing power in the attacks after jonas attacks body language tells a lot . Head up

[@GulaschGeneral]

So much cameras and still no video? 😅

[@pwt1969]

Masks???? WTF

[@yuliyahrybachova6473]

A couple of people already left TDF this year because of Covid. So makes total sense

[@comicsgator]

Masks in 2024-crazy.

[@FedericoG-p3w]

Dudes are trying to win the most important cycling event in the world, after their immune system is completely devastated after 2 weeks and with virus between the peloton that sent home already several riders..doesnt make sense?

[@peterfireflylund]

Even a 3% better chance of avoiding COVID-19 is worth it. Masks are easy and cheap. Only a fool wouldn’t use them in the Tour!

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

It's not mandatory but lots of riders have left the Tour with Covid. better try to protect your self, there is a new variant here in Europe, everyone's getting it right now

[@markotertinek4433]

Jonas got very arogant in these 2 years, for someone who won the last 2 tours with a monster team and a not fully prepared Pogi. And hoping for a bad day of Pogi, pathetic. Let the legs decide, not bad day.

[@paulsolon6229]

Landis 2006 tour goes at 100k, froome giro goes from far out too. Both win gc

[@duvshi]

Good luck King Jonas from ISRAEL❤🤞🤞🤞

[@tonyg3091]

Jonas is not the king. There is only one TRUE KING and his name is Pog.

[@thomaspetersen9991]

​@@tonyg3091i Dont think so 😂😂😂

[@Victor74391]

@@tonyg3091Dope king for sure

[@duvshi]

@@tonyg3091 for this time

[@astridvermeulen4156]

Jonas accept your loss, Pogi is stronger. He will winn the Tour.

[@clovergrass9439]

Minions, wear the mask.

[@Jabroni2U]

what a bunch of mask wearing fairies

[@LadyBird-n2t]

Yeah right.. the injuries were SO bad.. but he did his BEST EVER time yesterday?? Somethibg here smells very fishy...

[@Sunnivah13]

Why? After they healed, you are good to go. It was more about the kind of the crash and the kind of injuries he suffered. Broken collarbone for example is very common in cycling and puts you out of training, but not in the ICU. Broken ribs, punctured lung and pneumothorax puts you not only in bed but potentially in a coffin. This is why journalists are always emphasizing on the severity of the injuries, not because you cannot heal from them if you are lucky and get well after 6-8 weeks and then start training again, but because they were life threatening. This kind of injuries can kill you under some circumstances. This was the huge shock, not that he had to pause for weeks with training. But if you are lucky and get the right treatment right away the recovery span is not so much longer than to a lot of other common injuries in cycling. Look at Evenepoel: after falling from the bridge he broke his pelvis and was out of training for months. You can die by breaking you pelvis since they are big arteries going through your pelvis. But if it is "only" broken bone you will survive but have a long time of recovery ahead. Punctured lung and pneumothorax can kill you right away under certain circumstances, even a small hole in your lung will cause your lung to collapse. But if you get the right treatment you will survive and this will heal rather quickly if it's a small hole so.. severe injury (meaning life threatening) doesn't equal long recovery time. Think of this

[@mrsewe417]

Arhh fishy? You don't sound fishy but you do sound a bit like a fanboy who like alternative truths.

[@Goldeeliza]

​@@Sunnivah13You are quite right. And it took Evenepoel a LONG time to get back to his best after that horrible crash! People really forget the mental aspect as well. ❤ The fact that Jonas is physically well now and in top shape doesn't mean, that he didn't suffer a major setback.

[@thomaspetersen9991]

Pogi Cracks like the other years.wait and see

[@stuartstuart321]

Dream on

[@christophsuter3182]

Silly with these masks…

[@brma3124]

Yeah why would guys whose entire job centers around aerobic exercise want to take precautions against an illness that had already taken several riders out? 🙄

[@clovergrass9439]

​@@brma3124i wonder if masks work?

[@mikedittsche]

​@@clovergrass9439 they do. There is plenty of evidence for it.

[@Pawsk]

@@mikedittsche Not really no. There is evidence that masks prevent the spread of disease, and there is proof of masks preventing droplet carried diseases in large groups. As for evidence of masks protecting the person carrying them against diseases in circumstances where the people around them arent carrying them, it’s basically non existent. I wont hurt anything, but the evidence for its effect simply isnt there.

[@chasejiannalone8763]

@@mikedittscheQuite the opposite

[@slide_drexler]

vingegaard's chance of winning the tour again went bye bye when roglic jumped to another team.

[@sean7098]

he won the tour without roglic?

[@tonyg3091]

No. They went bye bye when Sepp didn’t make it, Van Baarle and Kruijswijk didn’t make it and Wout showed up in a terrible form

[@slide_drexler]

@@tonyg3091 the top 3 riders for a GC team in the Grand Tours always have altitude training together to simulate difficult mountain stages. Since roglic went to Bora Hansgrohe their training regimen wasnt as optimal as the previous years.

[@mrsewe417]

@@slide_drexler Thanks for the inside info about Vismas altitude training. See what you mean.

[@Pawsk]

@@slide_drexler I dont even think Roglic was the second best in the mountains in Visma last year. Also if we are to believe Jonas, which we might not but if we do then his numbers this year is better than the two previous years where he won. In other words you are talking nonsense.

[@jozeskufca2255]

Who nowadays wears a mask?

[@FedericoG-p3w]

The ones that are trying to win the most important cycling event in the world, after their immune system is completely devastated after 2 weeks and with virus between the peloton that sent home already several riders..doesnt make sense?

[@robbyrogersberg1520]

Jonas is going down swinging, lol

[@user-dw7cq8wp7w]

Jajajajaja el dulce pica los dientes como gano los 2 últimos tour pensó que este era igual pero te equivocastes amigo .Pogui te puso en el lugar que te corresponde

[@mrsewe417]

See a doctor. You sound a bit unwell, amigo.

[@vicenteguzmanp]

Debe ser una vida muy triste la tuya burlándote de los corredores en vez de disfrutar el espectáculo.