Tour of the Finnish Aviation Museum

[@MilitaryAviationHistory]

Hey all, I hope you enjoiy this video. This is obviously a completely new type of content and I have to learn a lot of new things. Filming at the museum has given me some ideas for the future, what to do and especially what not to do when filming real life segments. Currently, I am still somewhat limted with my equipment. This is especially obvious from the audio (I added subtitles). However, with the support many of you give me over Patreon, I will be able to invest in a better camera and a dedicated mic soon. This is going to boost the quality significantly. If you want to help out, check out my Patreon. I hope you enjoy and if you have any feedback, send it my way ;)

[@bendtfender2894]

Bismarck This was cool.

[@mavrik104]

If Jingles can do it your bound to figure out how to do it better. Its the German efficiency.

[@juusopt9003]

I live 100 km north from Helsinki ,in Lahti.

[@keijo8238]

Bismarck Torilla tavataan

[@Matzon357]

Hello bis i have been in that museum and flew a bf109 sim there :)

[@eetuhannola]

Great video! My grandmothers uncle Viktor Pyötsia was ww2 fighter ace with 19 and half confirmed kills. He flew with Fokker D.XXI and bf109.

[@wape1]

I hope you can visit the Finnish Air Force Museum at Tikkakoski, Jyväskylä, which has in my opinion a more interesting collection. For example, it has the only surviving VL Pyörremyrsky (Hurricane), which was a Finnish copy of the Bf 109, sitting next to an actual Bf 109 G-6.

[@Pauna2896]

Also the only ''surviving'' Brewster Buffalo

[@Jageby]

And also one of thelast Blenheims

[@vekuboi]

@@Pauna2896 bruh the Pyörremyrsky isnt a copy of the 109, are you on drugs?

[@heikkisallinen9012]

It was not a copy Bf 109, but was build as a Finnish equivalent to match it's performance. It was initiated to lessen Finnish reliance on German frontline fighters. The air frame was a totally different Finnish design. The cockpit layout and most of the instrumentation was from an earlier domestic design, VL Myrsky ( currently under restoration for the same museum ). DB605 engine, the nose-mounted cannon and some cockpit instruments were the only foreign parts also shared with BF 109 Gs. Engines, I think, were to be sourced from Sweden.

[@Charlieboterman]

Thanks for clearing up the whole finnish swastika myth. I was hoping for some Fokker aircraft.. but i guess today wasnt the day.

[@CaptainGyro]

Good job, and especially considering the primitive equipment. Nice to see the body behind the voice. You are a natural at on screen presenting. A guilty pleasure of mine is learning about esoteric airplanes. Finland appears to me to be the little country that could and can.

[@JiiHooMan]

You should've also visited the Tikkakoski aviation museum in central Finland. There's some very cool and unique pieces too. (maybe even more than in the Helsinki museum)

[@jjtheone1232]

I went to the museum last summer. I loved it. Especially the interesting story how the finish air service got so many planes from so many nations. It's great and I recommend anyone to go there.

[@cromagnonac]

That face reveal tho :O , nice to finally connect the voice to a face, cheers mate o7

[@akikarjalainen3981]

Fun fact: Sirkku sugar cubes are still sold by basically the same company in Finland so I guess that the sponsoring campaign was a great success!

[@fardiemann]

Amazing Bismarck! This new content suits you well and i love it. Similar ti MHV and Jingles you are good at talking to the camera. Hope to see more!! P.S. consider visiting the Norwegian Air Museum collection at Gardmoen.

[@MilitaryAviationHistory]

Thanks Emil. I hope to plan many Air Museums, and I want to return to Norway for another visit, so that is indeed a possibility!

[@edwardtroth8630]

Or Bodø. Never been to Bodø as I live in the south of Norway but i hear that there's some neat stuff up there.

[@angelreading5098]

Very well done,please extend coverage of other Finnish air force aircraft in the museum in the future,thank you.

[@WolfKenneth]

Visit Aviation Museum in Cracov Poland quite a lot of unique airplanes from WW1 and interwar period.

[@Robert_Kawalec]

Hi Bismarck, Good to see You life - in my case for the first time. Great video. Danke aus Hamburg.

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

I never knew the story behind the symbol on the aircraft. Excellent bit of pub quiz trivia. Thanks for the upload Bismark. Great content as ever.

[@michaelstewartwilliams]

Thanks for these videos from your trip to Finland. It was fun to learn about a part of aviation history I hadn't known about before. I'm looking forward to the next installments.

[@crstothard]

I love that Christoph Waltz is guest hosting your channel today!!

[@brendaproffitt1011]

Totally incredible video and the way you explained different thing's on this was great ....Amazing to see all these different ww2 plane's and the information on these are interesting to me and to see how wood the mounts and the machine guns too..you did an amazing job on this video too..I do greatly appreciate your videos too..Thank you so much

[@mx0mania]

Good video. There is also Tikkakosken ilmailumuseo. There is quite good amount of warplanes. But maybe it is too far from Helsinki 290 kilometers...

[@jmirsp4z]

perkele! might i suggest also visiting the finnish air force museum in Jyväskylä... they have some cool planes there such as the VL Pyörremyrsky prototype...

[@UmbrellaluvsU]

That's pretty awesome! I would love to visit

[@cringothebot276]

All women melt in his presence. The men writhe in envy and become erect at his beauty. He is Bismarck, the greatest KZbinr of this generation.

[@cnqpüghjr]

#NoHomo

[@cringothebot276]

Jared Young You may be correct my friend

[@Moorbote]

AllDayRevenge Dat Ass :o

[@josipvrandecic2472]

A very interesting and intriguing portrayal of the part of Finland's aviation..Thanks a lot.

[@Elias-no9fy]

As you're in Scandinavia, you should visit Flygvapenmuseum in Linköping, Sweden. It's a great museum concentrated on the swedish air force.

[@blownaway9187]

oh yes the Fokker D.XXI mandatory instalike for a Dutchman like me :D

[@MikeGoesBoom]

Hey Bismarck, looking good ;)

[@Sgtdoc]

Is he a sexy beast?

[@carlthecoworker5596]

Yes

[@damooseman6807]

Välkommen till Finland! Ja i have not myself been to the museum but should go someday.

[@ThroneOfBhaal]

LOVE this stuff. :D Great change of style, still very well researched and wonderfully informative. Keep it up! :D

[@williamchurchill203]

Lindybeige goes to a Tank musuem and Bismarck goes to a aviation museum? All my favorite youtubers are having their dreams come true!

[@metanumia]

Fantastic video, +Bismarck! Keep up the great work! :)

[@dias_se]

Second that! I was there this spring and it is a really nice museum if you are an airplane geek (like me). You get really close to the exibits...

[@JHorsti]

Unexpected face reveal is unexpected.

[@mcglynn20]

I know, right. And MHV did damn near the same thing recently with his video on his time in the Austrian Army.

[@marrioman13]

Emmett C I think it's to finally prove they're not brothers

[@MilitaryHistoryVisualized]

Austria and Germany working together again... Germany is sending envoys to Finland... what could possibly go wrong...

[@MikeLitoris66]

It was kind of weird to finally see the face behind the voice.

[@andreibeleaua792]

Just me noticed the CinemaSins replic?

[@Modi_]

Awesome video, if you visit finland again, you should really visit the aviation museum in tikkakoski, they have old jets used by the finns like saab drakens, vampires, mig 15's and even an il28. Its located like 250km away from helsinki.

[@sthlmstoffe]

Great video, thanks Bis!!!

[@terryteed1903]

I need that cockpit canopy that was behind you in the last 5 minutes. love that salmon pants lol.

[@itmooh]

also they have a flying dc-3 in helsinki , at an original 1930s airfield at helsinki-malmi.

[@abc-oq7dt]

Brilliant video! Very interesting stuff.

[@smeb4086]

dank museum, you should go to salpa line aswell, i live right next to salpa line museum and there is t-34 3 km from our house

[@The_RoboDoc]

Yay, I'm from Finland and I'm happy to see this vid

[@garypashley3636]

Woah...there is a face behind the voice...great vid Bis

[@Betoniporsas75]

There is actually one flying DC-3 in Finland. When FAF used DC-3, one of the them was loaned for famous film "Eagle has landed". There is also other parts in film that has been made in Finland.

[@onelyone6976]

You should visit another aviation museum here in finland in tikkakoski and a tank museum near hämeenlinna

[@jeffpittel6926]

Thanks for the explanation on the Finnish Swastika, never new why Finland used this insinia.

[@kenneth9874]

The swastika was a positive symbol in existence way before the 3rd reich

[@Chivaltic]

On the topic of swastika in the Finnish Air Force. Yes is is true that after the end of the Lappland War in April 1945 (a war forced by Soviet Union to expel the German for Finland after the end of the Continuation war) the FAF adopted the the current roundel. However in 1958 the swatika returned to the Finnish Air Force for the unit flags like Karelia, Satakunta and Häme Air Commands (Häme Air Command was relocated and re-named Lappland Air Command in 1974 but kept the original flag). Also Finnish Training Wing (Lentosotakoulu), witch was disbanted in 2014, Air Force Academy (Ilmasotakoulu) and several other units got flags with swastika. All of the flags are currently in use and feature a black swastika not blue. Nice video by the way !

[@meanmanturbo]

Oh, doing aircraft museums. Well, I'm guessing Flygvapenmuseum in Linköping Sweden is on your list of places to visit, or at least i hope:)

[@peterbanderas8184]

What? No monocle, heavily starched uniform or swagger stick? Man, you look nothing like I imagined. Ah well... Keep up the interesting content and good work. =)

[@Talon3000]

That was different but also really nice. I like it.

[@jackingjacker9389]

you should go to Write Patterson air force base and the Smithsonian museum in Washington.

[@Franky46Boy]

That Pyry trainer shows some influence of the Fokker D-21 design...

[@richard343s]

I was there years ago. Seems like the planes are still standing where I left them haha :)

[@chryssalidbait8765]

It's been a month already, but if you happen upon Finland again, I'd recommend visiting the tank museum in Parola as well.

[@sethmiller2797]

nice tour

[@danielbat9887]

Wtf you're not the Iron Chancellor who unified Germany you're some random white guy

[@Tibilaulaulau]

Daniel Băț Dezamăgire totală :(

[@tillamook7446]

A Bavarian random guy

[@Taeschno_Flo]

Great Video! Iron cross for both!

[@MrBeowulf66]

There is an another DC-3 in Finland that still actively participates in airshows. Usually as a ground exhibit, but it comes and leaves with her own power.

[@KalleKilponen]

It also flies pretty much daily during the summers, it's a pretty common sight near the Helsinki-Malmi airport.

[@Ethnarches]

Did you visit the Military Aviation museum at Tikkakoski? They are obviously focused on military aviation and have a lot interesting planes that Finland has used from many countries. I highly recommend it! Personally it's a more interesting collection because of the focus on military hardware.

[@granskare]

we have been there- have you visited the museum near the Helsinki airport.

[@weatherstuff808]

Your voice is so soothing..

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

The aircraft look nice, taking into account the climate, geography and topography of Finnland with its own special requirements it would be good to know more about their aircraft industry, particularly the manufacture of engines.

[@heikkisallinen9012]

I think the only engine Finland produced during WW2 was the Bristol Mercury ( or Tampella Mercury ), fitted to Fokkers and Bristol Blenheims Finland had problems acquiring more modern engines from Germany during the Continuation war : only P&W Twin Wasps from German stocks . Finland used them to it's modernized, late Fokker fighter variants and the domestic VL Myrsky design. . Before Ryti-Ribbentrop pact, Finland sook to source DB605 engines from Sweden, which had a production licence.

[@largezo7567]

I can recommend that place. I've been there multiple times.

[@CaptainGyro]

Who knew but makes sense. Thanks.

[@1frameatthetime]

There used to be a Bf109K on outdoor exhibit in Finland. I had this extensive 109 book written by a German Author in the 60s whose name I can not remember the name of at this moment. There was a picture of the Finnish Bf109 in that book. Somebody borrowed the book and I never got it back. I think it had the Finnish Swastika and at least the Galland hood a tall tail wheel. This swastika - the Finnish version also exists in Japan as a ancient symbol. Not political. UPDATE: This is the book: Heinz J. Nowarra The Messerschmitt 109 - A Famous German Fighter

[@heikkisallinen9012]

It would have been nice to hear from VL Myrsky ( soon to be restored ) and VL Pyörremyrsky, but the prototype is a different museum in Tikkakoski :/ Keep up the good work !

[@bamboosa]

@Military Aviation History - Please do a segment on Winkle Brown. Thank you (your takes are unique and important).

[@carnivorouse]

Awesome! Good job!

[@declaredmilk299]

Suomi finland perkele

[@lipidi1542]

Ois ollut ihan koulu reitin vieressä

[@bleedinggumsroberts3579]

great video

[@No_Fuse8771]

You look like you should be on the history channel. I could see you hosting some of the WWII history shows.

[@damirkolatrovic9858]

Can you make a video about the numbers on the nose of the IL-2 models, what is their use?

[@smigoltime]

I never thought You would look like that haha ^^ I expected Otto von Bismarck xD

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

i was in the airforce and in my military oath march in february of 2020 they carried that swastika flag at the front, too bad many foreigners dont know the story and jump to conclusions, its still heavily used in asia too. in vietnam my friend even saw a swastika lock lol.

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

from the 1920s-30s, the US armt 45th division had this patch. youlistit.cgmauctions.com/detail.asp?id=448&n=45th-Infantry-Division-Swastika-Patch

[@ottofin3178]

perkele, why do all the german historians have such beautiful stubbles?

[@kantyran6449]

Otto FIN you need them to pass the exams ;)

[@LupusAries]

Perkele there is no proper Schnauzbart on him, Bismarck you have to work on that! And where is your Pickelhaube! And no Sword, how dare you to go out dressed so improperly Bismarck? ;)

[@jaxxmadine]

Its biz! Good video.

[@mikakoskimies36]

I didn't see if anyone pointed it out yet but the Finnish Airforce swastika and the swastika of the Third Reich are inherently in connection to each other even if by a different context. Count Eric von Rosen whom's personal sign of "good luck" the blue swastika was was in fact the same man that gifted Finland Thulin typ D (Morane-Saulnier 'Parasol') whom Göring (who some of you may know was WW1 ace, flying in Jasta 1) later came acquainted with during his time in Sweden, both being aeronautical enthusiasts and via events you may read up on yourself if you so please. As far as I understand, Göring took the idea of this symbol back to Germany with him and eventually through twists and tumbles became the insignia of the Third Reich.

[@MilitaryAviationHistory]

I know of the connection between von Rosen and Goering, I believe Goering actually married the sister of von Rosen's wife iirc.Yet, Swastika on a yellow back ground was also used as an 'high voltage' warning in Sweden at the time. Some other air forces also adopted just after WW1, example: Latvia. Companies, like Carlsberg, used it in their logo. Sports teams used it too. The symbol was literally everywhere, mostly used without the 45 degree tilt, and considered completely normal until the mid-1930s. As for the conntection of Goering and the NSDAPs use of the swastika, Hitler had already mentioned the symbol in 'Mein Kampf', nearly ten years before they met. The connection/ influence coming from Sweden is thus mute.

[@max_archer]

It was very popular here in the US, as well. A city near me still has street lamps from the 1920s with Swastikas cast into them.

[@mikakoskimies36]

Yes that is all true and I just researched and indeed you are right. As a quirky sidenote, the presidential standard in Finland still has a yellow swastika over blue a rosacruz known as 'vapaudenristi' (Cross of Freedom or something, unaware of an official english translation. It is also still use in the Finnish Air Force as some units markings event though going for a decade but came back into use in the mid 1950s.

[@eltenda]

Really cool museum

[@Titus-as-the-Roman]

I love Aircraft museums. Thanks for showing. Add folding landing gear to the VL Pyry and it strongly resembles our T-2 Texan trainer. Almost every Brewster Buffalo that rose to meet the Japanese at the start of WW2 was shot down in quick order, it was perhaps the worst aircraft ever forced upon the U.S. Marines Corps. For aircraft history nerds if ever in the States you need to go to the USAF's Museum on Old Wright Field in Dayton Ohio (where many aircraft, including the B-17 was tested and modified), be sure to visit the annex buildings and just down the road is the Wright Brothers memorial on the hill overlooking Huffman Prairie where many of their glider test were done.

[@heikkisallinen9012]

In Finland, Brewster Buffalo was actually the most successful fighter of the early Continuation War before Finland got Bf 109s. Ofcourse, Finns were mostly up againts worse pilots and planes than the US pilots were facing in the Pacific. Finnish Brewsters were also de-navalized, which lessened their weight and improved their performance.

[@Titus-as-the-Roman]

@@heikkisallinen9012 Most Americans greatly respect the Finns. I believe they could make an Outhouse Fly and be successful if need so arose.

[@heikkisallinen9012]

@@Titus-as-the-Roman What Finnish aircraft mechanics and the Aircraft industry managed to do during the WW2 with keeping so many different types of planes air-worthy in very difficult conditions, under chronic lack of resources and 'MacGyvering' some extended service time for outdated aircraft, all the while trying to squeeze out some of it's own domestic designs, is indeed, nothing short of a miracle. Put I guess human nature can stretch to almost unhuman feats if there is no alternative.

[@Titus-as-the-Roman]

@@heikkisallinen9012 Looking back on history, one of Americas' failures was not helping Finland more, specially early on when we could have made a difference. At that time 9 out 10 Americans was so isolationist that they wanted Nothing to do with any conflicts in Europe or Asia. It took a sneak attack by Japan to finally open our eyes to the reality of the world, and by that time we found ourselves so severely behind the major powers that we had our hands full with a fast, steep learning curve.

[@heikkisallinen9012]

@@Titus-as-the-Roman Well. No nation goes to war if it can avoid it. Sweden and Switzerland are prime examples. It's a hard to ship your boys to fight for a cause for no reason, until there is some event that hits a nation close enough home. The same policies by ruling European powers, France and Britain, cost Hitler taking Czechoslovakia practically without resistance and unabeling proper Polish mobilization. They rather opted for maintaining peace in Europe for a very high price, rather than shipping their boys for another Great war to the 'Far away countries, they knew nothing about' or letting those countries to give Hitler any sort of pretext. It was the wrong course of action to take with a leader as unscrupulous as Hitler. USA's support in the Winter war was very welcome, and although we were de facto Allies to Nazi Germany 1940 - 1944, US never declared a war on us or attacked us directly, and I've read somewhere, it was eventually the US providing reliable source of food,fertilizers and oil ( which we relied on the Germans ) that made it possible for the Finns to finally ditch the Germans in 1944. Had USA not come to the aid of the Europeans back then, I think we would generally live in a far more grim reality now, with two European Totalitarian regimes acting freely.

[@granskare]

one he is standing in front of has the postwar roundel.

[@mladtheimpaler]

You should come to america and check out the National museum of the United states Air Force in dayton Ohio. That have some pretty big hangers with one's dedicated to WW1 and WW2, the Korean and Vietnam wars, the Cold war, and model day. They also added a Experimental aircraft hangar full of x-planes and the presidential aircraft. I heard in that in 2018 they will be adding a strategic bombing section with the B-17 "Memphis Belle". I would really recommend you coming to see it. It is if not, one of the biggest aviation museum in the world. Another cool museum would be the Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola Florida which is home to the Navy's aerobatic stunt team, the Blue Angels. Down there they have I believe three separate hangers stuffed full of naval aircraft from ww1 to the modern day. I would really hope that you get to see these museums some day.

[@t.swallgren9204]

Jjust think how many different types they were forced to use. Fighters: Gloster Gladiator, Gloster Gauntlet II, Caudron-Renault C.R. 714, Bulldog, Fokker D21, . Hawker Hart, Fiat G50, Curtis Kittyhawk, Curtis Warhawk, Hurricane, I-16, I-153, LaGG-3, Brewster, Morane, Bf-109, VL Myrsky ... .or bombers: Blenheim, Fokker CX, DB-3, SB-2, Dornier, Junkers-88, Pe-2, Pe-3 .... other aicraft at least 36 different types.

[@teemuracing3763]

there is another awesome aviation museum in Tikkakoski

[@jabjab6029]

Maybe if youre that far, you could visit some museums in Baltic states also. Drive around Kurland pocket front and there are plenty of WW2 and overall history related things to see there. Its also really German friendly so maybe you should check that out! Gruß!

[@tedferkin]

The only comment I could make is, you need to use a microphone to pick up your voice better. The content is very good, no complaints there. Perhaps also a tee-shirt/sweater with your logo and detials on would be good, for more awareness.

[@Marxman-bi5yu]

Today I learned Bismark is just Sidestrafe with a very convincing German accent. xD Seriously speaking though cool video, audio could have been a bit better but I doubt there was much that could help the wind and the metal building.

[@megaconda07]

New video you should do. F6f vs [insert model zero that the f6f fought] explaining advancements in tactics and technology how the us navy over came what was the best plane of the Pacific @Bismarck

[@Franky46Boy]

Tour? I only see three very nice indigenous aircraft, but where are the Fokkers and Brewster???

[@TomasLuoto]

Ah damn, we should've met while you were here visiting.

[@Pfsif]

Somebody get that tour guide a cup of coffee.

[@mcbeanstinyweaponsandtanks4933]

Whaaaaaaa!?!?! Not at all what I thought Biz looked like!

[@johncox9660]

Superior video thanks for posting.The sound I am cert-en will improve.

[@veskunapietari]

10+ points to Bismarck... You should also visit Tikkakoski Finnish Airforce Museum airforcemuseum.fi/

[@duke9049]

Holy shit you look nothing like you sound there Biz :D HaHa great videos btw some more would be awesome!!

[@heymrwight]

I imagined you would look more like Herr Otto Flick from " 'Allo 'Allo! "

[@deltavee2]

So check into the Clarion Hotel at the airport and the museum is right across the street. Handy! Thanks, Bismarck, for an entertaining video, and the history lesson. Much appreciated. Why is everyone losing their minds over the fact that they can see you? Are you a YT game reviewer or something?

[@granskare]

ah, the one which was supported by the sugar company...It was called the Tuisku - that is the name of my cousin :)

[@nedyarbnexus9460]

Talk about the Differences of the Radial engine Designs vs Inline Engine Designs and their advantages and disadvantages to both. the 2 most powerful airforces of ww2 (Royal Airforce and the US Airforce) typically favored 1 design and not the other. The US typically favored Radial Engines. (With the exception of the Mustang) B-17 Flying fortress, B-29 Super Fortress, B-25 Mitchell, B-24 Liberator, F4U Corsair, F6F Hellcat, P47 Thunderbolt etc etc While the UK typically favored Inline Engines. Wellington, Lancaster, Spitfire, Hawker Hurricane, Hawker Typhoon, Mosquito ect ect. Me personally I like the Radial engines more, they just look meaner and bigger.

[@jarmokankaanpaa6528]

At least with Britain, it depended partly on the manufacturer. Bristol, which made its own radial engines, also turned out radial engined aircraft (Blenheim, Beaufort, Beaufighter); Bristol radials were also used in the HP Hampden & Halifax B III, Blackburn Skua & Roc, Fairey Swordfish and Albacore, Gloster Gladiator, Westland Lysander, Hawker Tempest II and the post-war Sea Fury, AW Albemarle, Short Stirling and Sunderland, Vickers Wellington, Supermarine Walrus... Most interwar types also had radial engines. As for the US, other inline fighters included the P-38, P-39, P-40, and P-63, but admittedly bombers and other military types used radials.

finland also happened to invite the german troops to stand against the soviets. great friendship at first, involved a great deal of fishing and skiing, until the soviets actually showed up, at which point the german troops got the order to flee and burn down the place on their way out. a distant relative of mine got caught in the process, finland kept him for the remaining war, which was the best thing ever happend to him, because everyone else went to stalingrad none of which ever returned. finland not only saved, but more importantly changed his approach on live considerably for the better. so a late sorry and big thank you from a german, finding and reading a bunch of old letters in a birch wood can, handmade in a prison camp, written by a guy long dead by now (natural course), he never met!

[@ramjb]

I've seen your face... One of those things one can't unsee even if he wished to do so.... My life has been marked forever....I'll never be able to recover from this XD Oh, god..... (sobs)

[@ramjb]

On a more serious note if you're into air museums and you happen to fall around Spain you know who to call to take you to the Spanish Air Museum....you'll half love it and half be torn by the stupid culture of this 3rd world country that keeps aviation jewels rotting under the naked sky because there's no budget for more hangars... Still an incredible place to visit.

[@agusti92]

ramjb only half? The paint on them is completely wasted, sadly. Still amazing tho (that Catalina, yummy)

[@agusti92]

ramjb btw, probably stupid question, but do you know the FIO?

[@agusti92]

Very informative, very cool! You probably noticed, but next time I suggest avoiding being in the middle of the image.

[@MilitaryAviationHistory]

Yup, I marked that down in my little notebook just after seeing the footage :). Thanks for mentioning it though, feedback always helps!

[@santerikajala8354]

The museum is in Vantaa not in helsinki

[@itmooh]

visit the finnish airforce museum for more indigenous designs.