Tower of God: Theory Breakdown

[@trevinlund2283]

Enryu CANNOT be Phantaminum’s messenger because in a blog post, SIU directly stated that Enryu has NEVER met Phantaminum. And therefore, Phantaminum is NOT the Outside God.

[@ludoxz]

But Enryu met Arlene, and said that all preparations are done afterhiding the Thorn on the floor of death

[@Siennarchist]

Its likely that he might be a metaphorical messenger, such as some kind of prophet or servant, and maybe he hasn't met phantaminium in person and receives instructions from him remotely. It's possible, but it doesn't seem too likely

[@trevinlund2283]

@@ludoxz It is never said that Enryu has met Arlene anywhere in the story. All we know is that we was enraged to hear that Arlene’s sacred land was being defiled.

[@ludoxz]

@@trevinlund2283 as far as im aware, he setup the thorn for Bam wich could be just him seeing the future so idk youre probably right on that

[@mr.unknown731]

All we know is Enryu is very Anti Jahad and treat the administrators and Jahad's rules like a joke. Bigger question is why Enryu or Phantaminum didn't kill Jahad yet

[@alexalonzo8965]

I 100% support the red witch and Enryu theory. Color coding is kind of a thing in Tower of God, and I feel the fact that so many things both appearance and lore wise kind of line up with each other to the point where it’s too much to be a coincidence. Especially with Enryu making life out of shinsu and the everlasting hate that the red witches for some reason have for the 10 great families

[@Siennarchist]

It's definitely the most likely theory in the video given TOG's constant use of colour coding for different groups and factions like khuns have light blue or red witches being... Red, etc.

[@leemanlemons893]

also white is opposed to consuming red witches for some reason it may be because their souls are artificial or something along those lines

[@trivendrakhardia8964]

And also the red witches has only been seen working with FUG which is anti jahad too

[@SeggsMeister]

I have a theory that I haven't seen anywhere before. It's regarding Baam's alter ego "Jue Viole Grace". I think that it's not just a name given to him by FUG but his actual real name. There are a few things that would support this theory. First of all, he was killed some time after being born. It would make sense that he got a name after his birth. Secondly, the leader of FUG (Grace Luslec) was a (close?) companion/subordinate of Baams father V. They must have surely talked with each other about Baam at least at some point. There might be more but this is all I can think of right now. Another thing about this theory is its possible impact on Baam. His sworn enemy was Viole and he even absorbed him on the Hidden Floor (if I remember correctly). If he found out that he actually IS Jue Viole Grace, he could accept him and gain a power up.

[@Pyro_Vortex]

Man all these theories just make me so excited for T.O.G to come back.

[@paridhipandey5563]

My favourite was the Alane part that makes me think that maybe Alane is the villain

[@yourdecentralizedreminder5623]

My favourite theories is alane left her son on dark underground calling him monster why could mother leave her son alone like that?

[@roojackaroo8517]

Any update on when it's coming back? Didn't SIU say it was going to be back in November or something?

[@roojackaroo8517]

@@Noah_316 oof, I actually looked into it and it's most likely that TOG will never be back. Arthritis doesn't improve really.

[@joshuapaige5728]

@@roojackaroo8517 he said he was gonna take another 6 month off so he could completely recover

[@trevinlund2283]

Video suggestions: 1. The arcs that you are most excited for/ want to happen in the future. 2. Arcs tier list. 3. Top 10 Strongest characters up to date (regulars only). 4. A video on the murals on the 1st floor of the tower (theory video).

[@Xiprus724]

yeah, the murals video would be very interesting. Especially since SIU has stated that they represent the overarching story of ToG.

[@blessed7617]

It's just a theory, a Tower of God theory

[@khunagueroagnis2558]

Lol

[@thefrogmayor6524]

Thanks for watching

[@duncanbuckets9980]

Rachel having originally been from within the tower as a maid who accompanied Arlene would explain why she doesn't have your typical op irregular powers

[@aciddicgtc3053]

Irregulars are chosen by the tower, Rachel was not which is said by the caretaker. She was able to get in through Bam being there at the time.

[@ibukunanjorin9054]

I like the theory that says that Yuri actually knows a lot more than she's letting on. First of all, she's the only person in the tower (besides Jahad)to see Phantaminum and live to tell the tale and this is further confounded by the fact that she never revealed anything about their meeting. Also how the hell did Yuri know when an irregular like Bam enter the tower, something even Jahad and the ten family heads were unaware of , this couldn't be by chance, because we know it takes weeks for even high rankers to travel between tens of floors so doesn't that mean she knew about Bam's arrival weeks in advance? If this is true, then the most dangerous person in the tower isn't Jahad but Yuri.

[@shiroi7885]

she may be working with him and who knows contacting him 🤔 I am rereading so I am gonna take an eye on her and if I find smt suspicious or some clue or irregularity in her I will comment :)

[@ibukunanjorin9054]

@@shiroi7885 cool, if you do notice something please remember to put it here :)

[@shiroi7885]

@@ibukunanjorin9054 ok :)

[@ibukunanjorin9054]

@@shiroi7885 wait, which chapter is that ?

[@shiroi7885]

@@ibukunanjorin9054 I was just confused as its been almost a year since I read tog but still strange for headon to be involved or sabotaging the workshopp/or fug chap 42 season 2 wiki; "Headon" is the Guardian of the First Floor and the caretaker of the Tower. if he is the owner of the tower then this means the owner himself allowed bam there and hided it from jahad 🤔

[@arjunnimmakayala9016]

You might want to make a timeline so stuff gets easier to understand, we'd be all for it, and I would assume it would make understanding lore much easier as the story progresses and further prieces of the puzzle are fit together

[@JM-us3fr]

For sure, and make the timeline vertical, to represent their climb through the tower.

[@bhavyagoyal4013]

or you could just read tog like 2-3 times and then u will never forget the timeline 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@caseyteague7636]

I wonder if SIU watches these videos and thinks "hmm I might add that to the story" 🤔😏.

[@khunagueroagnis2558]

BRO THAT WOULD BE LIKE W O A H!!!!

[@baylordyama6510]

Well we know that Jahad started to change after the train and pretty much lost all that was his previous self... So what if Wangnan, Karaka, the Boss and potential others are actually clones or the phisycal manifestations of Jahad feelings, weaknesses, his sense of adventure as well as his Sins and Virtues 🤔 Probably why they would be called the "Seeds of a King"? That would explain why they have the exact same appearence as him?

[@noahneedleman9210]

The "pressure theory" where the tower is underwater and the reason there is more shinsu pressure the higher the tower level is because the tower is underwater. The other parts of this are the obvious ties to the sea in the tower, such as Fisherman or shinsuu itself.

[@enryu4339]

But in water its like this: Low pressure High pressure And in the Tower its like this: High pressure Low pressure

[@wangnanja9568]

@@enryu4339 I gotta agree with my main man enyru

[@Siennarchist]

For this theory to work gravity would need to be reversed, meaning everyone would fall towards the ceiling, so the entire story would have to take place on the ceiling of each tower and everyone walks around on the ceiling of each floor rather than on the floor meaning in a way all the characters would actually be moving downwards every time they 'ascend to the next floor', so its theoretical possible, but not really

[@andrew-rn9ui]

And imagine the tower is actually going down That would be crazy as fuck They are actually climbing to hell to get a wish rather then to the heavens That would be some crazy fucking writing Actually Im taking it and writing my own shit 🤣

[@andrew-rn9ui]

@@Siennarchist bro are you trying to apply science to the tower of god 😆 They dont even age right Some characters are thousands of years old If time doesnt work right you can be sure as shit gravity doesn't 🤣 Only If this theory were true that is

[@Heartless8604]

So, my theory is that Arlene is the true enemy. Devoted to her goal of overthrowing Zahard and reaching the top. As Zahard never reached the top, he just gave it up. My theory is that the top isn't a place that was ever meant to achieve. For achieving it grants you strength beyond comprehension. Hence why Zahard sealed it off to prevent the destruction of the tower's society as a whole. Arlene, in my theory had Bam and offered Bam to Enriyu to carry out their goal of eliminating Zahard. Rachel, being an apprentice of Arlene whose goal was to enable that. Arlene never saw Bam as a son. But a tool to achieve ones goal. And Rachel was a pawn to the plan to carry out her role. The plan, was for Bam to eliminate Zahard and destroy the tower itself. Bam being the one to end the story. With Phantanium putting all the pieces in play to ensure the tale's conclusion is as planned as an axis. Rachel not being the heroine, but rather the one forced to be the antagonist to further the plot. Alla, Professor Snape.

[@SapphirePyro]

Looks like Wangnan, Arlene, and Enryu would need their own theory videos.... So many interesting possibilities about them 👀

[@cal724]

Got featured in a Dr. Bonehead video. I can die happy now.

[@ludoxz]

What if Wangnan an karaka are clones of Jahad that developed self consuisnes, and V freed them(based on Nikhil Phillip´s Theory)

[@DarkNorthEmperor]

👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻🎉

[@fanto860]

they're supposed to be direct sons of Jahad, but who knows? there's a small Jahad walking around the tower talking to people like Dowon

[@Bucko99]

Is it possible that Enryu IS the thorn (much like how the 13 months sort of have souls)? Assuming the red witches were created by Enryu, it would explain why Hwaryun is so intent on finding it. It would also explain why Enryu disappeared. Edit: It would also explain why Baam/irregulars can use it. And probably some other things as well...

[@just_tom_solomon1210]

The one thing that Interests me over everything else is the tower itself. Why was it built? Who built it? What does it look like from the outside? How does one enter or leave it? Where did all the floor guardians come from? Why does it have shinsu? What are all these alien species inside? How do the people inside know it's a tower before Zahard showed up?

[@ariden8643]

1-I think Adori may be a female version of whatever is going on with wangnan, karaka, etc. she is stated to be of mysterious origin, and Jahad doesn't seem to feel threatened by the fact that she could easily win the princess competition. He could have placed her as a final barrier to prevent any princess from becoming his bride. Also she is supposed to be blond(if SIU didn't change his mind considering that the image we saw of her back had her all white). 2-Maschenny want Yuri to reach her full potential so that they can have an ultimate showdown and die in a fight that satisfy her boredom. From what we saw of her child copy and how she is actively trying to start a war, the girl is clearly obsessed with fighting, but incredibly bored. the princesses we know all seems to be either a lot stronger(adori, hageriphone) or weaker. Maybe she saw Yuri's potential as able to match her while not being to one sided and decided it is how she want to go. 3-the good at cleaning is starting to sell me on the maid theory, but my favorite Rachel theory is the one where she is the soul of Arlen and V's child placed in a normal body. The story told by Garam seems to imply that whatever got inside the dead baby is more a god or something created by the god than her child. Maybe after she got out of the tower, Arlen found a way to bring back her baby but since the body was already occupied she had to put it in a random one. Rachel did seem to imply that Arlen saw Baam as a monster. That would make Rachel's ''entitlement'' much more comprehensible. I would be pissed too if I was stuck in an ''ugly'' weak body, and then see my actual body running around being attractive and OP and acting like the chosen one when in any other story I would be the chosen one. That would also explain why Baam was abandonned in a cave, and why Rachel got curious in the first place. 4-The man inside kallavan's gem is a third child of Ha Yurin erased by history. That one only matters if Kallavan end up being the next slayer after being disillusionned by Jahad. He is said to be the perfect counter to the Ha family and maybe there was a reason that Jinsung went to the middle of nowhere where the gem was. Maybe he knows something. Also the man had balck hair and red eyes and now that Elphathion is dead, Kallavan's two main underlings are a Ha and an Ari(who are all related to Ha family because of the Ha twin's father being Ari Han).

[@arshgrewal9487]

Yo the Rachel should theory blew my mind. It would make so much sense if it was true and explain why Rachel hates Baam so much and says that Baam is taking what is rightfully hers

[@guillermomarturetfendt9037]

Dafuk? None of those theories makes any sense...

[@kyng_spade]

Remember that Mascheny said that she and Jinsung wanted the same thing she just believes that a bit more blood is necessary.

[@Suckadick_]

My theory with phantomenum is that he made a deal with zahad so he can create his story but zahad backstabbed Hindi he killed his court and left YURI as part of a new plan and to tell him that he would kill everyone next time and that’s why he is incorporated into bans life as a warning for zahad to follow that deal and than makes the deal with Arlene as part of a new story

[@joshs9626]

My theory is that Rachel is the student of Arlene Grace. Rachel has a mission given by Arlene. A mission thats so awesome that we will change the way we look on Rachel. Let me explain first. When Arlene got outside with the help of V all powers of arlene were gone (it only apply on the tower where shinsu is present) but not the wisdom. Arlene keep the dead baby(Bam) close to the cave where the gate of the tower are *edit(with the help of phanta). To harness the shinsu(leaking) to form a body that now is Bam. Arlene how ever is not stable using that power lacking of shinsu so her own body is suffering when Arlene go to nearest town to find food clothes all the needs. She encountered Rachel a child Rachel, I think Rachel has been saved by Arlene or something happened Rachel will never forget. Rachel now follow Arlene and found the cave where Bam is. (Reconstructing body) Rachel is so amazed on what she saw, Arlene blew her cover and tell the truth about the tower. Rachel has the mission on mind go to tower and get what she really want. (She keeps saying star (star which is like protagonist on the movie) Rachel always want the spotlight the attention it goes also on Arlene she wanted her attention but Arlene's attention are on Bam's. Arlene disappeared because of Phantaminum. But before it happend Arlene gave Rachel a mission. A mission thats so smart no one could imagine. I think Arlene is so smart like a savant being or close to being god. Thats why Rachel's amazed or idolized by her. Phantaminum is the God in the "other" tower (You will be an Axis if you beat the tower) there's so many axis in that universe also V is an axis imo pretending to suicide and goes to other tower to climb once again. Thus entering another tower will make you an irregular beings.(being an axis / or blood related but your power will scaled down you need to power up again like rpg games. Irregular has passives and stats advantage) the administrator will nerf you. They are the devs on the tower. Not unless you climb the very top. Like phanta and enryu so much power even the immortal administrators can die(you unlocked the code, you are the hackers who killed the devs.) And the tower is just like parallel universe there were towers all over the globe/world they living thus all tower has different rules. Arlene is the key for V appearance so phanta uses her (luring V to him to challenge and test who is better a rivalry but good friends like naruto and sasuke / goku and vegeta thing.) In the tower you can see the future. But there are people thats immune to it. The axis and the one who climbed and claimed the price. Also Bam cause blood related to (axis V) Also Rachel where phanta uses something on her on Arlene's command. The mission. Arlene tells Rachel that Bam will destroy the corupt tower (jahad era). But then also Arlene promise the prize on the top of the tower to Rachel's. Arlene Plot that BAM is the GOOD person, and Rachel is the BAD person. The Good person will destroy the tower while the Bad siding with jahad(or corrupt beings) to claimed the prize (more like Rachel is triple agent) for Arlene, Bam and Jahad. After siding with jahad, Rachel will rob jahad before getting the prize and use it to help bam fight all the corrupt beings in the tower. Rachel become an Axis. And do fall in love with BAM. V's motives is to destroy all Corrupt towers to prevent whats going on in the latest tower of god. (In the help of phanta arlene and many more) Bonus theory V's revenge on Jahad is marvelous jahad will be killed by v and arlene son Bam also his loyal servant rachel (ouchh) and probably his own son prince and princesses (ggwp). Also I wonder why V wants to shutdown the towers (to stop creating more axis) There's also Axis war going on thats why tower exist to preserve the destroyed world(outside the tower). more like Incubating tower will only let people out when became the axis. Creation and destruction. 3 am in the morning and i dont know what im doing my subconsciousness just type what its in my mind without thinking straight. Hope you enjoy our little theory here.

[@mr.unknown731]

V probably killed himself because he caused the one ray of hope in his life(Arlene) to be corrupted with her mind focused on hatred because of the despair of her losing their son cause of Jahad. Inadvertently, if he didn't love Arlene he could've spared her from that heartache since Jahad also had feelings for Arlene. Poe Bidau Gustang most likely called V the worst person ever cause he saw how the situation would turn out(he believes in predestined roles and actions, so nothing as illogical to him as a "leap of faith") and urged him not to take Arlene down that road as it would most likely end in heartbreak cause of the cruel nature of Jahad being a monster. With someone as kind hearted as Arlene, she would be the most vulnerable. I believe this situation most likely happened cause of how V killed himself and left a note to Arlene to return to Jahad and forget their time together. He would want Arlene to be happy and that would be to return to her friends(other ten great family leaders) and not isolate herself cause of hatred(he probably did that enough in his life). Would also tie into why Rachel said what she said about Arlene, Bam's own Mother, referred to her son as a "monster who would devour everything." As the saying goes, "The best way to rise up against monsters(Jahad) is for you yourself is to become one." That's my theory atleast and that arc with Hell Joe and Urek could be the key to foreshadowing it cause of Gustang character being explored in the conversation with Urek.

[@theasiantitan3554]

An even more wild theory. Rachel is Arlene, or the version of Arlene that called Bam a monster, and she's trying to drive Bam to kill Jahard. To explain it, Arlene wants Jahard dead, but she doesn't want to go back to the tower, so she takes the body and the soul of her maid, Rachel, and fuses them with her bad side. So the bad Arlene is the one that Bam is trying to get answers from, or just kill her, while Rachel the maid is the one who took care of Bam.

[@etcetera1301]

I was thinking about the shinsu's pressure being higher the more you climb up, and I think that could be because at the top there's the God or Axis that created and/or controls the shinsu. So the closer you get to them, the denser the shinsu is.

[@Sienna1919]

The Hockney theory makes so much sense... 👁👄👁 can't believe that hasnt crossed my mind before

[@TheLazyOne29]

I have a theory and hear me out when V found out about his son's death he cast a powerful spell to sacrifice his life to revive bams life which is why the god of the outside was able to bring bam from the dead.

[@ludoxz]

What if, the whole capture of Jinsung ha was setup by Maschenny? She gave intel to Jinsung, Sacrificed a shit ton of Soldiers and a superweapon, and she still lurks around The Nest(current Location where Jinsung is hold captive etc). And her intentions could be giving bam some kind of weapon that is sealed within the Shinsu crystal in the middle of the nest, because its stated that there are alot of things sealed inside it, or Maschenny aranges a meeting with Khun Edahn, or something like that.

[@WilliamJulienNkogheOlympio]

Maschenny is indeed shady as fuck. I think she intentionally captured Jinsung Ha to lure Bam and company to the Nest. she brought war to the Lo Po Bia in particular because those bastards are lunatics who do Jahads dirty work. and she wants Bam to stop them for her. She is manipulating everyone to cause mayhem on purpose, she did say herself that she wanted blood. Her reasons? I think that as a princess she is comploting to stop Jahad and his followers, and I think she is not the only princess in on it. I suspect Yuri is part of the rebellion with other princesses we haven't seen yet.

[@poutineausyropderable7108]

She said 3 times to Jinsung Ha : I told you, We've got the same goals, my way just need more bloodshed [and will actually do something, compared to playing baby sitter] She probably just want Bam to have a reason to fight Jahad and also want the war to start and for people to take an interest in him. Karaka said: If we win this, We'll have the lead in every other fight from now in.

[@WilliamJulienNkogheOlympio]

@@poutineausyropderable7108 yes she did. Proving there's a anti Jahad conspiracy among the princesses. Yuri probably recruited androssi and Anak junior. It wouldn't be that hard to recruit them. But I'm wandering who recruited Yuri??

[@vbdj-z6082]

@@WilliamJulienNkogheOlympio I have a feeling that she is secretly within the ranks of wolkhaiksong, her interest in people from the outside is more than others so I feel like her main goal is to actually find a way out of the tower just like Urek, although there might be evidence against it ns

[@WilliamJulienNkogheOlympio]

@@vbdj-z6082 I have no doubt many high profile players are in league with urek.

[@sirlezard670]

Messing with time is impossible in the tower (siu). Rachel could use the Thorn too (siu). Enryu and phantaminum never met (siu).

[@saumyaverma1562]

5:45 also also when Hell Joe was fighting Bam he could sense the power of administrator inside Bam. And I mean Bam was the only on who could use shinsu without a problem on the Floor Of Death.

[@slimxafton]

I wonder if he’s ever going to be an action

[@sandhuharsh]

What if pentanium is just bam from future who traveled back in time to make the people in tower fear irregulars and maybe he told Yuri to help an irregular (bam) who would enter the tower later That would explain why Yuri went against everything and gave bam the black March on first floor

[@velunimano986]

I think Yuri called phantomenum ugly once, and she calls bam handsome... so thats kinda dosent add up- but she might have lied too tho

[@villonis9000]

Actually for the rachel bit when siu delted the tu stories like remnants of four chapters of a story called literally talze uzer were left behind. In these stories it states that the axis ares stars, and that there is 98 of them so i think that rachel wants to meet one of them or see them. She prolly knows about them because they are from the outside.

[@wangnanja9568]

Yo this actually makes a lot of sense

[@Aceofspades928]

Wow I really like that Enryu and red wiitches theory. Their were alot of Enryu and Arlene theories in this video. Hopefully we get another theory video with more characters.

[@Talcor]

Rachels star thing could definitely be some sort of metaphor or symbolism since we do know she doesnt want to see the stars she wants to be one, but I think rachel might have lived underground as well just not as deep as bam. After all arlene supposedly went insane so hiding underground on the outside wouldn't be far fetched and rachel might be from a family who were to guard or keep am eye on bams hole since maybe arlenes immortality didn't work after leaving the tower, could also be a descendant.

[@-Lazy]

I think Rachel is Bams stepsister and also Arlen's child but she wasn't asleep and also not trapped inside a cave, so she had enough time to meet her mother.Or maybe she was adopted and helped Arlen sometimes with things like cleaning. But also somehow in connection with Jahad. Maybe Jahad is her father or something, I mean he had a crush on Bams mother and did something. But Her/His mother had only eyes for her true child Bam. That's why she is jealous and always says that Bam gets everything

[@willboardsmpa9136]

I doubt V killed himself. The way he was described by Eduan just makes me thing thqt he wasn't the type of person to do that while his loved one is suffering. If he truly loved Arlene and hated seeing her suffering why would he want to leave her alone? Plus, he's definitly Baam's father beacuse it was mentioned Baam inherited his tension from him. But i think his relationship with Arlene does seem kinda complicated and i can't point out why, just Gustang's reaction to V's name seems off. And the way Garam warned Endorsi to decide if she likes him for him or his power also makes me believe it has somthing to do with Arlene-V relationship. Ok, I'm bad at explaining, just.... I don't think V and Arlene's connection was so lovely-dovely as Garam's explanation makes believe.

[@fluffyfuwa989]

Arlene went insane when bam died so it would make sense that she was so obsessed with taking revange on jahad even if it means to use his own son

[@ryankole7414]

I feel phantamonium and headon have a lot to do with each other, like headon is the guardian of the story setting, and phantamonium is the writer, then irregulars are like characters that can shape the future and are like major characters in a story.

[@eddoukos262]

Theory : What if Rachel didn't talk about the real stars but some kind of deity bc it is said that Baam's mom asked help from The Outside God which maybe is the 1st ranker? (dont remember name). How did she know about a God on the outside? Maybe the god it's some kind part of a religion ? Because even in the real world many doesn't believe on the Creator/God/Ruler of a religion or they can't explain some that a religion is based of and believes, with the knowledge and that normal people has obtained and remember, that religion is against science/reality of the system. Maybe that's why the Warriors are unware about Baam's origins,but only Jahad and maybe some close friends of Baam's mom knew during the journey bc she maybe had a vision or some kind of a mission from the God, and maybe the God wanted her to continue the journey/mission and, of course Baam's dad and a couple of others knew her secret but they were not convinced that she was truthful AFTER they go to the last floor, whatever they saw or hear was maybe, her lies to them, the history and existence of the tower itself and maybe a that reveal with evidence. Maybe Baam's father committed suicide bc someone told him the truth and he was feeling betrayed and used and full of regret of what he did for her but he stilled loved her and die for that reason, because even Jahad even after so many hardships and rejections he stilled loved her and decided to her by death so she could be released from her mission bc she was turning crazy and we dont know the "price" for immortality that they were given, maybe their sanity? or part of their emotions? Because deep down all of them are crazy😂 and he knew that something was going wrong and he thought that the child was affected too? Also the guy with the glasses in the floor of death the clan leader he knew who Baam was and maybe he was a friend of them bc he looks like a or something like that and he help them during the pregnancy? Dont know what of this shit is true but who cares, the only thing true is Mazino is hotttttt😍😍❤❤🔥🔥

[@Ashbut]

I think that the 135th floor is the outside world and that's why Jahad broke the key to stop people from going to the outside.

[@mariakou6142]

I have a theory that the tower is under water i think that first because of the sinsu they said its all around us and if they can't control it properly they will die i think something like that was said at the first episodes then we haven't seen any ocean or lake except from pools neither have we seen any rain and to top it all khun i think had stated when bam asked him if those were stars he said they were not real stars neither that is a true sun or a true sky so the top of the tower is like the surface and that's what Rachel meant she wants to see the stars not to make a wish about seeing them but once she reach the top she will see them

[@ludoxz]

I think Bam will turn out to be an Axis user. Because he was resurected by God, and id gues that god is an Axis user, because well all powerfull god etc. and in Season 1 during the Crown game we see, what i would describe as "Gods Blessing" protecting him in that Moment. Also Bam will be the Strongest Magic user in ToG, because its stated that arlene was the strongest.

[@poutineausyropderable7108]

Idk where you saw that Arlene was the strongest... But she was definetly strong af. And she called bam A monster.

[@vbdj-z6082]

yes good sir, with the curse and spell affects of arlene(because it says that's what she specialized in) and the shinsu tension that V had(depicted on hidden floor by data eduan) he makes the ULTIMATE BABY of BATTLE...

[@carljohnson3347]

@@poutineausyropderable7108 he means the strongest spell user

[@poutineausyropderable7108]

@@carljohnson3347 didnt know abou that. were it says it? im curious.

[@poutineausyropderable7108]

@@vbdj-z6082 Oh, you mean spells like how Bam can just gobble them up(I think thats why He can just break them so easily, The blue thryssa did say his power come from devourring even the biggest thing like a snack. Not the strongest Shinsui user, but the strongest magic user.

[@suuuu195]

Ok I haven't finished the video yet but when your camera fell down, it gave me the biggest jump scare lmfao

[@springlink3188]

Earliest I've been for a vid, Great vid Joe.

[@drbonehead]

Thank you!

[@dannikaderecho2808]

Early squad!! Thank you for the video Mr. Bonehead :DD

[@guardianba0u]

Kinda a stretch, but when Arlene escaped the tower, she probably didn't fully escape it. Think the tower only has 2 true doors, one on floor 1, and one at the very very top(who knows what floor thatd be). There might be this neutral zone outside the construct of the tower and before the true outside world. This could explain why Arlene told Rachel about the stars, even tho they were "outside" the tower.

[@jahadk4418]

LOVE THE VID MY GUY!

[@peytonting9218]

When you haven't watched the vid and say you love it. The mark of a true fan.

[@jahadk4418]

@@peytonting9218 love the concept of the video and I know my guy will knock it out of the park...Wish you a nice day Peyton

[@fantasizer3517]

What if a member of the Lo Po Bia family had the powers of a squid, MAKING THEM AN INKLING FROM SPLATOON.

[@fanto860]

Am i the only one wondering what's up with legit 2 jahads? The adult looking one that appeared in the secret floor, and the small version of Jahad, the one that looked Jahad in the secret floor, but then talked to Dowon one time?

[@Malcarne360]

I'm wondering if it really matters whether Arlen was a saint or someone bent on revenge. Iirc she found a way outside the tower with her dead child's (Baam's) preserved body and offered it to the God outside the tower, supposedly to breathe life back into Baam. In order to do this, the God took residence within Baam (or just gave him power, but I'm pretty sure he actually took Baam on as a host), and will gradually push Baam towards killing the "false King" (Enryu's words) Jahad. Even if this weren't the case, though, Jahad is hostile towards Baam, meaning that Baam would have no choice but to oppose Jahad in the end. So, regardless of whether Arlen's intention was revenge or saving her dead child, revenge was inevitable.

[@mohdjais8278]

wasn't it "false king" and not "false god"

[@Malcarne360]

@@mohdjais8278 I think you're right. Ty for correction.

[@eatower2]

Definitely agree with the red witches theory. I think I've actually posed it a few times in your comment sections. We have a lot of evidence, including timelines, out there somewhere. It's a fun theory.

[@disres1337]

A thing about bams name: the fact that he is named the 25th bam indicates that there could have been more than one bam (25 obviously). It could be that the previous failed somehow, but this is kind of weird since we would obviously know if there was more than one bam running around (maybe they somehow failed before leaving the hole). Maybe rachel was responsible for supervising them and with the 25th she was just like „ok i have had enough of this i wanna climb the tower“.

[@lukerockbot8748]

Honestly I think that V chose a form of reincarnation instead of immortality and his reincarnation after his auicise is Jinsun Ha. He is the grandson of the original 10 family leader which means that it’s possible that he was born right after V died becuase they all had immortality so V might have been older when the original bam died and when he commited suicide. He slaughtered his entire family line and I’m pretty sure the family line head, which means that he’s stronger than his father and a recurring theme in TOG is that people like white can never be as strong as their father, but somehow Jinsun Ha was. If you look at his physical power, he could have beaten Kallavan if he didn’t underestimate Kallavans duribility and even then he still blew a massive hole in his chest and carried out a 1v2 against Kallavan and Machinwvy and somehow survived, and right before that duel took place he was shot at by a super weapon which he then destroyed and he destroyed an entire fleet which puts him very high on the rankings. In addition to all that, it was mentioned that he knew Jahad almost personally and the way he acts with bam and how he almost sacrificed his life for bam and the fatherly figure that he is for bam, I think that he was his actual father in a previous life and now is just acting on instincts and stuff like that even if he doesn’t have the memories.

[@ludoxz]

What if not God but the devil resurected Bam? That would Explain the Red Exoskeleton from the Beginning of Season 2. and the Gods Blessing thing in the Crown game would have just been a reflex.

[@Zawaito]

Considering ages, and i think the outside world is closer to our world than to the tower, maybe rachel's ancestors were arlene's maidens, she heard the story from her parents and wanted to take part in it

[@eduardoflores2780]

I'm a little late the theory party, but I have one about Bam's Destiny and the tower. I think that Bam's destiny is to not change Jahad's system and take over, but rather to simply destroy the empire and let everyone leave the tower. Gustang and Garam state that Bam might be the one destined to kill Jahad and "lead everyone to greater heights". Urek who came from outside wants to leave the tower. Meaning that getting inside is a lot simpler than leaving. Arlene stated in her pocket that she journeyed the tower in an attempt to figure out how to leave and that she found a way. Plus, Arlene's pocket shows that she misses the stars. Based on imagery during Bam and Rachel flashbacks there they seem to be underground. So I think that Arlene's escape of the tower was simply in the earth just beneath the tower. It's technically outside the tower, but isn't where Arlene wanted to go. Furthermore, Rachel's overarching goal is fulfill the prophecy herself and "see the sight that person longed to see". Jahad for some reason is blocking people from leaving the tower.

[@JM-us3fr]

I don't know about leaving the tower, but it may be Bam's destiny to destroy jahad's empire, and perhaps even the tower itself. Everywhere he goes, he disrupts it in a way that hasn't been seen for thousands of years, often destroying the place or the political structure there (e.g. the Floor of Death, Kaiser's floor, the Hell Train, the Hidden Floor, the Last Station, etc.). This suggests Bam has come as a destroyer, and not necessarily a liberator. This would explain why Arlene and Jahad both refer to Bam as a "monster."

[@gopalsrivastavateaches6878]

I do believe it but maybe there is a need for a destroyer in the tower this order that jahad made he's definitely afraid of something that in on the next floor or floors up ahead so he's protecting everyone because he cannot defeat it. But a monster a destroyer like bam can and will take everyone to a greater height in the tower and will become a true god because axis may have powers like gods but they are not really gods there are bad axis who commit bad things out there. Tower of god is a device to make an axis, a true god and the stars Rachel talks about are axis so she wants to be one.

[@devapath2506]

2:59 I thought exactly the same.

[@noirkumo7883]

I would think that Bam is the only one could use the thorns because they were meant for him. According the the prophecy, Bam was offered to the god(s) to be inhabited and resurrect to use the red thorn to slit the greedy king's throat. I don't remember the exact quote for the prophecy but from the translation that i've read that is something along the line

[@thef9460]

Lero ro explained the tower to be build up so there was the living part of the tower with citys and stuf. then there was the middle section which was not part of the tower hencforth outside. and the most inner part was were people were climbing. if Urek came from outside maybe he came from outside the outher most section and Baam came from the middle section also called outside the tower.

[@mohamadamr3060]

My theory is : the person with yellow hair who met doyen and Chang(l don't remember there names) might be jahad's brother and wangnan might be his son (since they look like each other)

[@spencerc7272]

On the theory about the guy from the flashback being wangnan; time travel cant exist in TUS which is the universerse the tower is located

[@Pyro_Vortex]

Oh yeah one more thing when it said that Enryu shinsu was red it reminded me of that one time in the hidden floor arc where for a sec Bams Orb had red shinsu instead of blue so maybe Bam and Enryu are connected to each other one way or another.

[@ademolaademiluyi4480]

I have a theory that Rachel could actually be Arlen but she casted a spell on herself. it could explain why she knows so much about Arlen and she ultimately went into the tower to give bam a reason to go in.

[@ritazhu4786]

Oh I’m late.. again But anyways, most of the theories are really interesting!! Some of them got my brain turning

[@khunagueroagnis2558]

Lol same

[@jaroddralston4462]

Little late but here’s a theory. Reread the chapter where enryu fights the administrator. If you look closely on the pages you’ll see a character watching the battle which looks very similar to Rachel. Same hair,and face. Check it out ASAP.

[@uliraudales4474]

I have a theory, the theory is that the princes of the red light district are the equivalent, all be it a failure, of the princesses of Jahad. If we think about it, the key that opens the door to the 135th floor was split in two, one half was forged into the 13 moth series while the others were forged into the red rings. We know that the 13th month series was given to the selected princesses of Jahad, who were chosen from their branches of the great families they are part of, to inherit some of Jahad's blood. Gustang proposed the idea of the princess system so they could find which princess was worthy enough to become Jahad's wife. They had to be strong enough to collect all 13 months series to be consider worthy. Also we know that Jahad is the strongest person in the tower(not accounting for the top 2) and anyone who inherits his blood like the princesses become stronger than they are. So if the princes of the red light district are in fact Jahad's biological children, then it wouldn't make much sense for them to be weak. Granted Karaka is strong but he is practically on even power with Yuri who is in the top 500 rankers. I love Wangnan but my dude is pathetically weak. I mean let's look at Ran, he is a direct descendant of Edhuan and is crazy strong on his own, Anaak is a daughter of a princess and she is crazy strong, Endorsi who is not a blood member of any of the great families and who has inherited Jahad's blood is crazy strong. So it would make sense for any children of Jahad to be naturally strong, yet non of them are(as far as we know) Another thing that supports that the princes of the red light district aren't Jahad's sons is that Jahad is strongly loyal about his love, all be it twisted, towards Arlene. The guy proposed to Arlene after he already become king of the tower. He chased after her even after being rejected, he killed a baby Bam because he wasn't his child. It would make sense that even after erasing Arlene from the history of the tower, that he would still love her and having children with other women other than Arlene would make feel like he betrayed his feelings. Also the princess have to be super strong and collect all the 13 months series, then think how strong a women has to be to be able to bear a child for Jahad, the strongest person in the tower, and who has some weird demon monster inside of him. Another thing, if we assume that Jahad knew that there were others out there capable of killing him after his confrontation with Phantaminum, is possibly he started to create clones or homunculus(most likely since jinsung doesn't seem to say anything about how wangnan or Karaka look like Jahad since the man is stated to have been real close with Jahad in the past), that could host his soul if he was ever to die( similar to how Emperor palpetine does it in the dark empire story line of star wars legends which the rise of skywalker ruined) . That would explain the similar physical features between Jahad and Wangnan and Karaka. Also Wangnan has two red horns coming out of the back of his neck, which if he has Jahad's blood in him(therefore the demon inside Jahad as well) it might explain that. Also don't you think is weird how Bam never once comments on how Jahad and Wangnan look similar. I mean he seem them. both up close, so it would make sense for him to naturally tho think about it for a moment. He did also notice that Karaka and Wangnan had the same ring. the Fact that FUG knows about the princes of the red light district is odd since you would think they would try to recruit or forcibly make them join them, if they were Jahad's biological sons who might be strong enough to battle him and the great families. Maybe the princes have some sort of role were they have to keep the rings safe or from being reuinited to form the half of the key to higher floors of the tower. Also you would think Rachel would have say something to Bam and the others regarding Wangnan connections to Jahad, but she never does, Jingsung doesn't seem to care either, you would think he would care since they are Jahad's children and that the fact that FUG knows a lot about them it would bring just makes it more odd. They are more interested on Bam who is an irregular who is the only one capable of killing Jahad. They look for strong people so you would think they would go after the princes of the red light district but they don't. so possibly the princes are in one way or another related to Jahad but I can't see them being his sons. I could say more but this is gotten long enough. Sorry this was too long.

[@henrynichols665]

I think that Rachel was telling the truth when she said his mom said that he was a monster but I think that when Arlene said he was a monster I think that she was referring to the power inside of him

[@aarav7851]

I am 100% sure that bam is not Arlene and V's son but rachel could be, maybe something like with Louis and deng deng

[@pikapuffle1012]

What i'm curious about is the first princess (Arie Horn Jahard) because according to the wiki she's missing in the tower. Since she's the first princess I would have assumed that she went crazy and died with the other first generation princesses, but because she's listed as missing that might not be so. I wonder what would happen if she showed up. It would be a big surprise for sure as it would have been very unlikely that she survived. Maybe she discovered about Jahard's secret like Eurasia Enne Jahard and left by herself? Or maybe something else is going on here. Or I might just be overthinking things.

[@lordsnia2152]

Ghost from Rachel's team in floor of tests and later in stealing the fang Arc. SIU has stated thaat the current number of irregulars in tower is confidential similar to Baam's age. i think the part were Ghost showed human eye behind his mask and also used shinsu black hole sphere proves he is an irregular but a forgotten ancient one. and powerful too. cause he could use teleport to escape with Apple and Michael. and i think someone in F.U.G knows about him along with Headon. also, i had on several occasions on this channel brought the theory of Enryu creating life with shinsu and that life being red witches. i just didn't read about the extensions regarding Hockney's eyes. im kind of sad i didn't read your community tab to comment this theory.😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@marceloyonamine6141]

Not a theory but i think a good idea for a video is to talk about what happened to Yuri and Ran and other characters that aren't in the battle at the nest talking about in what chapter they were seen last, what ark, what they were doing at the time to refresh peoples memories since i think a lot of us have forgotten some of those characters and why they arent with bam and co. fighting

[@Wrathdg]

Big theory - hmmm how about this that irregular are allowed to enter the tower because of thier will and that will turns into shinsu and give them powers based on who they are cause bam had a strong will to find Rachel when he came into the tower Urek has a strong will to leave the tower as of Enryu we don't know aboyt him but this would explain why Rachel is so weak because her will to see the stars might be strong as she abandons bam but what if she always wanted to abandon bam to set her free from a duty mabye given by bams mother ( o forgot her name lol) also I totally agree with Rachael bieng a maid

[@Aegis_Paradise]

Enryu is probably the god outside world’s messenger that not only left his Thorn for Baam but the messenger of the same god that brought Baam back to life, given his Shinsu life making abilities.

[@mommailuvu]

My theory that I came up with after reading season 1 again is that Rachel was keeping Bam a secret from her village because she wanted to be the chosen one. And Grace found that village when she left the tower and told the villagers that her child would wake up and go to the tower.

[@cyan_28]

I think that Rachel is the maid of Arlene. From the fact that Rachel Idealizes Arlene, we can automatically assume that Arlene shared the stories of the tower to Rachel, from the stars to even the past with Bam. Arlene explains that Bam is a monster, Rachel being naturally interested in what could make Arlene, someone who Rachel looks up to very much, so afraid searches for Bam. Upon discovering Bam, she first thinks that he is weak and there is nothing wrong, but later realises Bam's skill to learn and perfect any skill (we see from the flashbacks of her rejecting to play games). Also the Phantaminum bit makes sense, the symbol of jahad is in Bam's cave thing, knowing that bam was supposedly saved by god to save the tower one day.

[@gazzmania150]

Tower of god, not gods. Which leads me to think there's a single god in charge of the tower, one that outranks even the administrators of the floors. This god would be able to grant any wish like the "fairy tale" of the tower promises. Something that interests me is why Jahad stopped climbing. Like he got over 100+ floors in and just packs up and stops (then there's all this about the key being split into the swords and soso) It's probably as a result to the whole Arlene and V story and I'm just forgetting the linking part. (idk if I'm remembering correctly but doesn't that happen after he stops) But otherwise maybe there's something about the tower he found out around the last few floors which made him give up, and then go crazy? -Maybe it's an endless struggle for the gods amusement to watch "mortals" struggle and get corrupted by their desire (aka what they want from the top of the tower) -Maybe it's a trap to lure people inside for other reasons -Maybe it's a trick and the true treasure is the friends you made along the way :^) (that'd be more than enough to make me give up after 100's of floors of grinding) -Maybe the tower was originally genuine but people's constant betrayals of each other and corrupt nature in pursuit of their desires led to the god abandoning the tower. Like the whole system being a lie, and he figured out climbing was pointless (or maybe it just gets really hard at that point and being a coward said "well I can't have it so no one can") The whole rankers manage games for people to progress has to be a system set up by people, so what was the original system for progressing up the tower before rankers handled the games? Did the administrators do the same or was it different? Maybe the new rankers are just doing the administrators job providing entertainment for the god of the tower, putting on shows and challenges for him to watch.

[@NMlocusDioxdelOrox]

Loved this video dude, i would really like seeing you break down some more of these

[@deveshchoudhary9796]

10:21 what if enriu is the thorn and the reason the red thresa entered baam so that he can get his revenge and now he is planning to get get the thorn away from baam (that would explain why baam was not able to use the 2nd thorn at first)

[@priyansuchoudhury0246]

Bam was born inside the tower but Rachel is from outside.How can she have helped deliver Bam?

[@072_ajitkumarhansda9]

We want more like this.

[@indeam2722]

I think rachel wants to be with a star Since in season 1 she told bam about a dude using a pile of rocks so that he can be with the star alone FYI i think the ending of TOG will be the tower getting destroyed or everyone that's in the tower would live outside of the tower since many characters would talk about the world for example, urek talking about the world during the test to find zigena's flower and wangnan wanting a wider sky And goseng thinking of forgetting about the tower and living together

[@l.asriel9005]

Nice video! I wanted to point out another thing. Enryu and Phantaminum are way stronger than Jahad. And yet they didn't kill him. Enryu is waiting for Baam to kill Jahad. Baam is also destined to lead everyone higher, and possibly clear the whole Tower. Meaning, his destiny prevents others from doing it in his stead. Maybe, the Tower can exclusively be cleared by Baam, regardless of the strength of the others. Maybe, the Tower itself has a will, and wills to be cleared by Baam, thus preventing powerhouses like Urek/Enryu from clearing it.

[@JM-us3fr]

Oh man, I wish I hadn't missed this. I would have tossed out the theory that the tower is actually a simulated universe. It would explain how you can have magic and shinsu and seemingly unlimited space inside the tower. It also explains why no one seems to know where the exit is. It especially makes sense for the upper floors, where people are essentially gods; if you were to make a virtual world, that's basically the world you would create. It also explains why jahad and the 10 family leaders don't really see the inhabitants of the tower as "people" really.

[@christopherrockwell814]

Hmm, one of my theories is that Chang Blarode is still alive, in one of the later chapters before the nest, when they are testing Baragrav on why he was immune to Yasratcha, you can see one other person was present but you couldn't tell who it is.

[@benbacani7172]

What if all the Irregulars are from different worlds. Baam and Rachel are from a world without a sky, Zahard and the 10 family heads are all from different worlds from each other, Enryu and Arlene are from the same world and lastly Urek & Phantaminum are from the same world or that Urek is from a world that is aware of Phantaminum's existence. Also when Arlene left the tower she went to the world without a sky.

[@ahaponyo5427]

I support it to when grand de sah and grand de lee looked at him they got mysterious powers which allowed them to see into the future and red witchers can see possible future life paths

[@justarandomperson7027]

I would like to say that Jahad only loved arlene inside the tower. His blood was so strong that the had to introduce 13th month series concept of choosing jahad wife. But still jahad dont want to marry someone. So his possible sons are a part of some experiments using jahad blood or might be his sons from the outside world

[@aarav7851]

Theory: Jahad needs a new body that's why he created the prince of Jahad like in GoH king needed dante to become stronger maybe in this case he needs the prince to climb higher

[@umairmukadam8125]

i think that when jahad tried to have a son, something messed up and his son lost his mind or became unstable or something and so jahad had to split his son into different parts who are wangnan, karaka and the guy who met dowon and basically each part inherited some part of jahad like karaka got immortality and the guy who talked to dowon and cha got the power to see fate and wangnan got some power we dont know about

[@aodfr]

My main thing I'm wondering is how many floors there are in the tower. There are 135 confirmed floors so far... My guess is that Jahad learned something from the admin at 135 and stopped moving up. I'm guessing that 134 is the half way point of the tower itself. Which means there could be a total of 268 floors or 300 floors if you round it up.

[@abdulrhman8937]

My theory is that after Arlene left the tower she met one of Rachel's ancestors, and after hearing her story they decided to serve her and they had a duty to wait for bam to awaken in his cave and each descendant had to go to the cave for serving Arlene's son. I feel like this makes sense because the bitterness that Rachel feels towards bam can be justified this way due to her family and ancestors waiting for this great entity to awaken only to find a naive lonely kid so she wanted to take his responsibility upon herself to kill jahad and achieve Arlene's dream

[@spesago2]

I had a theory that arlene sacrificed her life to resurrect bam. But due to her immortality she loses her memories, her powers and even her literal years but her actual life remains. The new person arlene has become has an obligation to look after bam but once the contract ended she was free to climb the tower again... and her new name is rachael. Or similarly but instead of being some vestige of arlene... her body was taken by the outside god

[@adrianflores9813]

also I think the final battle will be bam vs wangnan and the roles be switched in the actual tower bam be good and wangnan be evil and who ever wins gets the key to floor 135 idk I just can't imagine bam being evil

[@karolzalewski2948]

why does Jahad stopped to go futher? Probably he get a contract that he and 10 family heads gets immortality if nobody would get any higher, that's probably the thing that pulls fug's trigger to eliminate them just to climb into a actuall top floor.

[@Realm5217]

If Baam was Jahad’s son, it could make sense that he would kill him because then he would have the direct blood of a king. A monarch to challenge his absolute rule. He literally setup the 13 month series to prevent himself from having a wife.

[@weedstyle4204]

some thought of some of the theory's 1. i don't think phantaminum can be the god that support bam since that god should be inside of bam's body, bam always had this strange power to suck every power bam got the blue thrisaa said something about it, secondly i don't think Rachel is evil and want to kill bam, the thing about Rachel is i think she is a daughter of Arlene in the world outside of the tower after she got out she fall in love with someone else and have children and Rachel knows Arlene good because she is her daughter and knows about bam and where he is in his cave, she went there and was friends with him because they are brother and sister. but Rachel always heared about bam from arlene which always said that "this child"(bam) will take her ravage and make her happy so she very jealous about that and want to be the one that makes her mother happy instead. 2. the thorn should react to irregulars that why everyone in f.u.g wanted an irregular to control it since non of the others can, so enryu been inside of bam is kinda out of the question i think. 3. i think phantaminum went and killed jahad's guards to try and help him, been more paranoid and more protected next time when bam comes for his head, i think he is a god that went into the tower to balance things as inside of bam there is the god Arlene offered bam's body to. 4. inside of bam there is a god but he is asleep that why he absorbs every power he see to mature bam's body to host him. 5. the weapon wagnang got in the end of the train arc will most likely will betray bam in some way, he can kill almost everyone close to bam but i think it will come in a critical moment with the 1st slayer of f.u.g aka: Grace Mirchea Luslec. i think there will be a moment where bam meets with Grace Mirchea Luslec and he will tell him everything about his parents and about his existent and then wagnang will kill luslec because his weapon wants him dead since he considered as the most evil person in the tower. just my opinion on things, great video and hope you will stay safe and healthy :)

[@archangeltyrael3369]

I'm curious as to what Hwaryun's position is among the Red Witches since she can actually see Baams fate to properly guide him while Soo-oh, a high ranker, experiences physical pain from just trying to see anyone's fate with Baam just being in the general area

[@JosieDrake1995]

I definitely think that Enryu is connected to the red witches somehow. Though if they are the life he created, I’m not as sure

[@joshuabowers6431]

I don't know if you'll see this since the video is 4 months ago but I have a theory that the tower exists on its own like plane of existence where time flows differently so when people enter the tower from outside it could be from any time period but they all enter in to the tower in its current time. That could explain how Rachel New arlean if it was So long ago when she supposedly died and how she could have been a handmaiden or something to her