toxic boy mums 4

[@Cal-fb7we]

they also like call themselves boy moms even when they also have girls which is weird. Some of them will be like “I’m such a boy mom! I love my boy!!” And also have like two daughters

[@rhi963]

good point i always thought of that phrase as being used when they have children of only one gender but now its like have any boy and you can be a boy mom. like no youre just a weird mom

[@t3hwaddledee]

Ah, yeah. Girls are ~drama and dress up and dolls and dance and emotions~ and like UGH amiright? But being a #boymom is so much different and better 😌 (being sarcastic of course. just. groooooooss)

[@pineapplepapercrafts]

That's called just being a mom haha. Like I have one of each as well. And I would never say I'm just a boy mom. I. Am a mom. Full stop haha

[@thesimplelifeofjenn5349]

Right??? I have a boy and a girl and I could never

[@stephaniewubben8266]

I only have boys and will never call my self a boy mom I am there mom. And yes I love them but that would be no different if they where girls.

[@Pookiebookiebear-o7u]

Every kid deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a kid

[@Harmony270]

To add onto that every kid deserves a good parent at the very least

[@nat1659]

Every kid deserves a parent, but nobody deserves the parents some kids get

[@Zuxverbemnn]

These comments are so weird lol, this is so true! Made me think of a youtuber who says this.

[@person80]

why do yall say this every time as if we dint know this already

[@Hypnos132]

@@person80because not everyone agrees clearly

[@lemonygem4274]

The story of Oedipus isn't an instruction manual

[@winchesterfamilyforever]

Damn 😂😂😂😂

[@cloudyskyz2237]

The fact that the mom killed herself at the end…

[@endiecutie06]

@@cloudyskyz2237 wasn’t it the guy who offed himself once he’d realized what he’d done?

[@winchesterfamilyforever]

@endiecutie06 She killed herself and he pocked his eyes out to punish himself and so he doesn't have to face his father's eyes when he dies

[@jadedbelle4788]

😂😂😂

[@commandercorl1544]

Parents calling their relationships with their kids "dating" will never stop grossing me out. That's your child. You have (hopefully) been an adult for their entire life, that is supposed to be a very different type of love.

[@cassiejohnson9410]

I think 'daddy-daughter dates' and 'mom-son dates' are cute in the senses that you are teaching them healthy relationships, and thier should be 'mommy-daughter dates' and 'dad-son dates' to.

[@goofyrat2938]

⁠@@cassiejohnson9410okay, that’s great but respectfully not what this person’s talking about 😭 They’re talking about parents who will literally fight their children’s partners for being in love with their child because they’re ‘dating’, and their child is ‘theirs’. It’s a weird possessiveness that also includes being a jerk to the child’s partner at every opportunity for that reason, and even going as far as saying their child is cheating on them because they have a love life.. it’s weird.

[@ardenchaplin5389]

I recently had a baby boy. I have thought about the future and his future. You know what I’ve thought about? His firsts: crawling, walking, smiling, laughing, games we’ll play and songs we’ll sing. I’ve had lots of people make jokes about him getting girls or breaking hearts and I find it creepy. I love my baby. But he is my child and not a replacement partner. My partner is an amazing partner and father.

[@ttintagel]

Yeah, the first thing I think when I see these women is, OK, what is wrong in their actual relationship with the child's father?

[@lovely_lizzi3]

@@ttintageland why not talk to your husband about it?? Why project onto a son who didn’t even ask to be born??

[@iFartMagic89]

I've thought about both my boy's futures too. Mainly, I'm worried about how I can act towards them that is going to make them be the most respectful and well adjusted men I possibly can. And these "boy moms" ain't it 😆

[@WhiteWolf496]

Congratulations on your baby!! Hope he's happy and healthy!

[@ttintagel]

@@lovely_lizzi3 I'm not a marriage counselor. Just because I notice a problem doesn't mean I have the solution.

[@skrahnha]

"bitches come and go, but you know I'll stay" is a fucking weird thing to say maybe just go with "I'll love you no matter what"(?).pretty reasonable thing to say and not creepy

[@samtinkle9076]

Why can't they just say "You'll always be baby to me"? *Why?*

[@technicolorbarf6734]

If you're saying this shit about your son, it's ironically super likely he's gonna have you blocked on all platforms by the time he's 19

[@Eviloohoo]

13:53 HELP??? THE SINGING??? IS SO GOOD???

[@Your_mums_boobs]

MY THOUGHT EXACTLY

[@degrassiedits]

i was looking for this comment

[@blueberry-fox]

Ikr her singing is amazing

[@Kraboobee]

The way she just dropped it in mid-sentence lmao She's actually recorded some songs, and she's quite a musician

[@rattiesunderstars]

@UTTP-142how many times are you going to say this dude

[@Lau-x4t]

Bro really flexed the angelic voice and didn’t think we’d notice

[@R04dkillBr4inr0t]

Ikr like how? How is it so pretty?

[@TaiyaRivers]

I was just about to comment asking why no one was talking about it lol Her voice is beautiful

[@messycrybaby]

The assumption that their kids are going to one day have a girlfriend or wife is also just wild to me; the heteronormativity is off the charts.

[@kayleighdriessen]

Indeed and like some people can feel little to no romantic or sexual attraction and/or they just want to take a more unconventional path in life that does not nessecarily have to include parenthood.

[@Montesama314]

Mom: "My son won't be marrying any woman who loves him better than I do!" Son: "Well, she's right... This is my HUSBAND."

[@Overlydepressedreddeadfan]

@@Montesama314lol. That would be me if I had a toxic boy mom.

[@haylene7521]

Exactly. When i talk about my son(only have the 1 child) dating, i use the word partner because who knows he will end up dating.

[@akibakitaki]

My mum is a toxic boy mum lol. I'm her younger child (AFAB), and OH BOY does it suck LMFAO. My older brother has started to call her out for this, i'm so grateful

[@3zra._.]

I’m so sorry that your birth giver is a dick 🙁 I’m glad she’s being called out on her bs, I hope you can heal from her 🫶

[@catsinspaceyt9184]

Oof

[@akibakitaki]

@@catsinspaceyt9184 Oof is right LMAO

[@SherlocksLeftNipple]

Good on your brother for not letting that get to his head, at least. I hope the two of you make safer, saner homes for yourselves than the one your mom gave you.

[@arabelladerenee]

At least it sounds like ur brother has ur back👍🏻

[@allysontousignant591]

I’ll tell you now if a dad did this emotional incest crap on their daughter then police would be called, this is so weird wtf

[@Cal-fb7we]

dads actually do it all the time and nobody cares because they’re seen as protective. lots of dads do things like make toddler girls sign “no dating” pledges, get really freakishly obsessed about their daughters virginities and “jokingly” threaten their daughters boyfriends by like standing at the door when he comes over holding a shotgun.

[@Hannahgs]

People would definitely be more openly wary but this kind of creepy stuff does unfortunately happen with dads to daughters. Like legit pledging your “purity” to your fathers is something a lot of Christian communities do.

[@07Flash11MRC]

unfortunately this is not the case, @ally. There are plenty of horrible girldads(TM).

[@commandercorl1544]

Something similar to that is integrated into human society at this point, dads not letting their daughters be "given away".

[@aduckofsomesort]

Oh you sweet summer child

[@zakuraRabbit]

"A son is his mother's last love"...what does that mean about my mom, who got remarried to another man after having her first son? So did my aunt.

[@jams1070]

Obviously they’re cheating on their sons 😂😂💀

[@B.Harper7]

We call the fcking police, that's what!! 🚔 🚓 😆😆😆 How dare they, think about the childrennnnnnnnn!

[@AnnaAlexandra_]

Whenever I see one of these boy mum videos, I always wonder how they'd respond if their kid were to ever come out as trans/genderfluid/non binary etc. They're so obsessed with having a boy as a child that I can't imagine them responding well, which would be so incredibly sad

[@hannahforys4730]

I was born a girl in 1997 and my sister was born a girl in 2001. When my brother was born a boy in 2011 people would come up to my dad in front of my sister and I and ask him “aren’t you so glad you finally have a boy now?” like my sister and I didn’t have ears. My dad was always like, first of all, my second daughter plays in the mud and never stops running so I feel like I already had a son. And second I’m just happy to have a healthy baby, I would’ve been just as excited to have a third daughter

[@CharlesPayet]

If I shared videos like that of me with either of our daughters with the hashtag “girldad,” people would rightly be suspicious of something inappropriate going on.

[@screamingbegins4688]

that tag exists-

[@CharlesPayet]

@@screamingbegins4688 I refuse to look it up and lose even more faith in humanity (and my gender).

[@screamingbegins4688]

@@CharlesPayet yeahh dont

[@projectmicky1226]

The girl dad term is usually equated to dads who have to learn to do hair, and get their nails painted, play tea party. I was a raised by a single dad and he had to do puzzles with me, and did my hair, let me do his hair, I made him fake dinners when I pretended to be a chef. My mom who left us, now she was always talking about how we all needed her and but she got remarried and left us. And how my brother had mother wounds and why he needed a woman ‘just like her.’ She prides herself heavily on being just like her dad, and his favorite (her dad was a terrible person), and how men love her. She once tracked my older brother (in his mid 20’s at the time), down because he didn’t respond after a date. She called the cops and they went door to door at a college dorm…🤦🏽‍♀️

[@CharlesPayet]

@@projectmicky1226 that does sound a lot more wholesome!

[@arai_thegirlinatrance]

The whole issue I have with this is the sheltering. By all means, protect your kids. Absolutely. Do NOT tell them they can't have friends and they can't do things they want ( within reason )

[@3zra._.]

Your pfp is great lmfao /gen

[@JoltYourLife]

at the store the other day i saw a mom and her toddler DAUGHTER getting cute matching outfits for a “date” that the mom was excited to have. THAT’S healthy. Smother Mothers of little boys are why women end up suffering !

[@KiboSanti]

Calling a scheduled bonding activity a "date" is adorable. Referring to these recurring events as "dateING" is quite icky...

[@thelittlestpika]

Parents like this creep me out so much. You should love your kids but you can't compare them or choose a favorite without messing up your kids mentally.

[@humanTrahs2012]

Is weird how a lot of parents thinks about the future relationship of their kids but if they grow up being ace or aro? Or aroace? Or gay? Or even not being interesting in being with someone else because they don't want to? It's bothering me how adults are so worried about gf or bf or whatever of their kids... Society only think about relationships and romance????

[@АннаТитова-ч1ы]

I will suggest society obsessed with social acceptable breeding.

[@SassyGirl822006]

The reason it bothers you that they call out being a boy mom specifically is so awesome, is the weird incest vibes. If it's creepy when it's a "girl-dad", than it's just as creepy when it's a "boy-mom".

[@luc716]

My mother was this “boy-mom”. She fixed on me and my brother. She touched us, she talked to us about sex and she acted more like our girlfriend and not our mother, in front of others. And people just accepted and were not questioning it because she was our mother and a woman, but when no one was around, she abused us sexually since I was about 4 years old until i was 15. From showing p0rn to incestuous sex. And now I'm gay and she was absolutely angry about it because she really thought I wanted and belonged to her. I heard a lot of strange reactions to my abuse (most people still don't know, but some) around me, even in professional field. They asked me if I liked it, or that I was lucky because my mother was 'h0t', or they had more empathy for her because my mother would never have done it if she hadn't been provoked in some way.... We enjoyed it so much that my brother kjilled himself and I have cptbs. Sorry for bringing it up, but that came up after the video and your comment.It makes me so angry that people miss all the possible signs of abuse when it comes to women (of course I'm not saying that every woman who behaves like this is abusing her children).

[@SassyGirl822006]

@@luc716 I'm so sorry that happened to you. The victim blaming need to end. I hope things are better for you now.

[@elizabethnoneofyourbuisnes2806]

It is incredibly creepy to act like you are your kids' first partner, and being jealous of the partners to come and acting like they cannot get a partner until they're well into their adulthood years. I had a long term relationship with a guy that had a boy mom and it was so annoying. The only 'dating' that is acceptable is when you show your kid what they deserve by having a little parent/child day treating them to what they enjoy. That can be good to give them standards but in those instances no one thinks they are ACTUALLY dating.

[@freckledandred]

I'm a girl mom and queer and if I talked about my daughter the way these boy moms talk I would be sent to prison

[@xg2513]

I really appreciate you reading out loud the posts and describing the videos because not only does it help those who are disabled, it also allows me to listening to your videos like they’re a podcast! I listen to your content on my walks every day.

[@Morepanthers]

Me, a mom with a son: Oh no, what if I see my own behavior in these toxic boy mom videos? After watching: nevermind, I'm good. These "boy moms" are next level

[@twyla7053]

all boy moms are moms of boys, but not all moms of boys are boy moms. thankfully there are plenty of moms of boys who have some sense.

[@StormMackenzie]

Yeah same 😂 I have three boys, don’t really use the word “boy mum” but others do because I am technically a boy mum. So these videos I always get worried about and then watch and I’m like okay…. Nope I’m not that 😂 That is weird 😅

[@meganjensen2239]

I love cuddling with my 6 year old (she loves physical affection), and I check in from time to time to let her know that she can always let me know if she wants space. I know that she will want space one day, and I want her to feel comfortable telling me when that starts to happen. I am going to miss our frequent cuddles, but I also know she's a growing person who will want independence and autonomy. That is how parenting goes. I just can't with how these mothers smother their sons.

[@Nolek15]

13:51 WOW I didn't know you could hit those high notes

[@magicnz0420]

I will never understand the parents who say that their child can only start dating at the certain age, unless it was the age that they themselves started dating at otherwise it’s so hypocritical.

[@CharlesPayet]

I said those things about our daughters years ago and STILL cringe when I think of it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Heyden_Weid]

@@CharlesPayetat least you’re self aware. So props to you. That’s more than most.

[@_moonbeammagic_]

​@UTTP-142 you clearly. You commented 5 different times.

[@CharlesPayet]

@@Heyden_Weid I’ve tried hard to become better and learn from my mistakes. I’ve even changed my mind on some topics during the course of online discussions!

[@munchycrunchybread]

​@@CharlesPayet thats great to hear!! i know im just an online stranger, but im proud of u for that. it can be hard to learn from mistakes (especially when the embarrassment kicks in) and your determination to get better w/ discussion and education is incredible!! good luck to u and ur family in all ur future endeavors

[@baileyb123bb]

My ex fiances mom TOLD me that im jealous of her because she cooks and cleans better than me and that im not a real woman because i couldn't take care of her son as well as she did..... theres reasons hes my ex

[@twyla7053]

he can go marry his mommy 🤣👏🏽

[@evanyla]

my mother suffered from her mother treating my aunt better than her, resulting in a slight grudge against her sister -- My mothers biggest wish is that my siblings and I never feel like someone's the favourite and that we're friendly with one another. She gets happy and excited when she hears I'm hanging out with either of my siblings and having a good time

[@alyj6398]

Seems to me that these boy moms aren't getting their romantic/emotional needs met from a partner, and so are instead transferring these feelings onto the closest emotional bond they have outside of their partner.

[@StormMackenzie]

That’s interesting… my hubby’s mum is such a “boy mum” but more so to hubby than to his older brother. I wonder if it’s because their dad walked out when hubby was young.

[@MakeupBySonya444]

i had kids really young, a few years ago my adult son took me out to olive garden for my birthday and the waiter asked if we were a couple. we weren't doing anything that would look like a couple would do it was entirely because my son looks older than he is and i look younger than i am. we both laughed about it and were quick to point out that actually we were mother and son. i find it very very weird these oddball "boy moms" that talk about their sons as if they are their boyfriends. it's creepy.

[@whoknows719]

me and my dad were on a boating team together and a woman thought we were dating for some reason. it haunts me to this day. I can't imagine how uncomfortable those boys must feel with a parent feeding into that.

[@PlayerTenji95]

Wild! 😳

[@m-maufm2181]

What’s breaking my heart is the fact that (someone else said it) they keep calling themselves boys mom even while having daughters and it’s clearly stating that for them having a boy holds more value than having a girl. What does it teaches their daughters ? That they are less valuable than men, the internalized misogyny is horrible.

[@Hannahgs]

I hope somebody is able and willing to pay for the therapy these poor boys are gonna need to be able to be functioning normal adults after being raised by someone like that

[@KiboSanti]

(*Looks around at the general state of things*) uhhh... 😰😫

[@patriciaholbrook6152]

My little girl is so affectionate because i was so present and affectionate with her as a baby. Boy moms make me so mad shaming baby girls

[@gcheftjgfba2655]

The Edipus complex in reverse😂. Really creepy n weird

[@DarkBangle]

Oedipus mother's name was Jocasta, so at least on the reddit forums, they refer to them as being a Jocasta or having Jocasta syndrome. Not sure if it's an official diagnostic term though.

[@gcheftjgfba2655]

@@DarkBangle 💯 appreciate the spelling clarification too😎💯

[@DarkBangle]

@@gcheftjgfba2655 sure thing. 👍 Greek names are hard lol. Mythology just happens to be an interest of mine.

[@cloudyskyz2237]

@@DarkBangleidk this doesn’t scream of Jocasta and Oedipus’s relationship to me. Jocasta thought her son had died as an infant. They were married together via an arranged marriage. She didn’t know he was her son. And she fricken killed herself when she found out. Doesn’t really scream the story of Oedipus to me.

[@DarkBangle]

@@cloudyskyz2237 while I understand that, Dr. Sigmund Freud is the one that termed the complex of a man wanting to sleep with his mother the Oedipus complex - despite the fact that Oedipus didn't want to sleep with his mother and didn't know she was his mother - and the term has now entered the common parlance. The use of the term Jocasta is derived from this already accepted term. Also, I am not creating or advocating the use of either term, merely relaying the already common use of the terms in communities where these mentalities are discussed. I have often found that where multiple disciplines intersect, one will take from the other with little regard as to the use of what they took in its home discipline. Like Freud's loose mapping of what he saw as a psychological complex onto the Oedipus myth or how the field of literature has in turn run rampant with the ideas of Freud and Jung despite those theories being largely out of favor in modern psychology. As someone who has studied mythology and the occult in literature and who has an interest in psychology and has endeavored to apply psychological research to my papers, this is a phenomenon I have run into on multiple occasions and which honestly sometimes frustrates me greatly. But I also understand that English is a living language and this is how languages evolve and new words are created and adapted from the old.

[@briannawalker4793]

12:00 they were so grossed out by the emotional incest that they yeeted themselves into the void 😭😭

[@sophiahenderson3680]

Okay but you KILLED THAT "please don't be in love with someone else" girl what a voice 😍 ❤

[@claritybadb]

My mom told me that my dad wanted a boy when she was pregnant with me. I was 9. It's really crappy to know that you're a disappointment just by body parts and DNA. 😔 I feel so sorry for the other children in those homes.

[@SLYKM]

Notice how the first mom says she was a tomboy growing up but is clearly not anymore. But is still so much happier with a boy. I swear, boy moms are just pick me teens who didn't grow out of it.

[@Princessbuttercupish]

my son is 13 and I just don't get boy mums calling themselves their child's girlfriend. is... is the implied incest or implied pedophelia the cute part because I am baffled.

[@Queenxily]

13:54 I was t expecting to hear some PIPES omg you sound amazing

[@karlketamine8172]

Thanks for clarifying the date vs dating cause my mom isn't one of those boy moms (and if she was it would be to bad for her since I'm trans) and I go on platonic dates with both my parents and sister (I consider it a date when its 1 on 1) Which we should raise kids gender neutral until they can choose what they wear and how they want to identify. Also also my mom told me if I wanted to bring a cute boy over to let her know so my dad and her can get out the house so I can have alone time with him

[@SpecialBlanket]

I don't think most ppl would call that a date, be careful w that language bc it's very uncommon.

[@kaylapounds1359]

I know how you feel. I got a random public FB post with a picture of a car bumper sticker saying something like, "if you follow my wife or daughter into a bathroom, I'll beat the crap out of you." I realized right away this was meant to be a transphobic thing and it ticked me off. I spoke my mind and went at some of these folks talking crap. Most comments were like "halleluja" and "where can I get one" but I'm so glad there were several folks going at them and making comments about how it wasn't cool.

[@SpecialBlanket]

Can you imagine these guys thinking they're so tough for threatening to beat up women 🙄 luckily they probably won't recognize over half of trans women

[@sabrina1759]

Came for the content, stayed for the skz merch in the background!(and for the premium content of course)

[@meaganpinkard6039]

Stray kids?

[@tsztinghuang6940]

@@meaganpinkard6039 It's a K-Pop boy band

[@MagnoliaPantherWoman]

10:50 ⚠️ Toxic is right. She's also ignoring him saying no. My bio-dad's mom was verbally SA to him and he grew up to do similar.

[@ctobolsk]

My ex had a terrible abusive mom, and while I definitely empathize with his feelings, he ended up taking them out on me. He just got divorced for a third time. I wish he believed in therapy, it would do wonders for his relationships with women

[@kayleighdriessen]

It's so gross how many children in this world are getting sexualized and lied to about future adult-things they may or may not want to do when they're e.g far too young to think about having children of their own, if you think you can force your child into a life they may or may not actually want for themselves you should NOT be a parent.

[@sketchiscribblr8285]

24:06 I get what youre saying, but I feel like this 'brownie points' thing is somewhat a step in the right direction towards breaking through the bare minimum being more common. we are watching them actually _look_ for the bar instead of completely ignoring it and face planting when it catches their foot and complaining that it was there to begin with.

[@miriamwamsley8873]

Yeah I also feel like because of the conversation around weaponized incompetence and men not contributing to household chores, the mom might just be trying to make it a point to teach her sons that as a preventative measure

[@Nova_is_silly_goofy]

13:53 Woah I know it’s off topic but you are REALLY good a singing :3

[@commandercorl1544]

The outro at the end of every video is her song!

[@Nova_is_silly_goofy]

@@commandercorl1544 didn't know it was her! don''t watch this channel too often

[@ashleybough7114]

I’m a mom of 2 boys and 2 girls. I’m straight and been married to the same guy for 19 years so I’m pretty “traditional” and I find this “boy mom” stuff to be really creepy and weird! My oldest son got his first girlfriend about a year ago and I was so happy for him, and then when she dumped him my heart broke for him! I love seeing my kids grow and change and experience life I can’t imagine trying to stop them from having relationships or anything like that, it’s really crazy. I’m not sure how I ended up on your channel but I’ve watched several of your videos and I love your messaging. Keep up the good work!

[@astrowolvez]

She says she won’t let them date till 30, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they date someone in college she’ll be furious and call them a whore.

[@sousaphone420]

“I’m his first girlfriend right???” TAKE AWAY HER CUSTODY OMG

[@hexonyou]

i definitely had 'date nights' with my kiddo when he was little, but I would never have said "we're dating" wtf?. Also the idea that you look at your infant and the scenario you come up with is "he's going to one day call me a bitch for not letting his girlfriend sleep over" that just.... sounds like you're planning to raise them to be a dick? Like I don't know why this would be the expectation. Now, mind you- my kiddo may very well be ace, so it may not be something that comes up with us. But I have a feeling based on the relationship we have and... I dunno, respect and trust? we have... I can't imagine my kid reacting that way to a reasonable boundary. It also isn't lost on me that 100% of these women assume their children will be straight; like hey mom, maybe one day you'll be 'competing' with his... boyfriend, actually. What then? You have the opportunity to be double boy mom but my guess is you'd be homophobic about it

[@BeautifulDreamerK]

Emotional incest is real. My uncle is disabled and his wife has used their oldest daughter as her emotional spouse. The youngest kid is bullied by both the wife and oldest. It’s sad

[@sabre_phoenix5996]

13:54 kiwi singing on her non singing place, you're welcome lol

[@CharlesPayet]

14:04 ok - wow! I saw the other people commenting about your singing, and they were right! Beautiful!

[@FrIoSrHy]

The singing in the middle was a welcome and cool surprise

[@stellablake6200]

It's absolutely wild me that mothers would frame spending one-on-one time with their sons as literal dates, like with the implication that other people actually think they're dating. Like sure when I was little my parents would call things "mommy/daughter dates" or "daddy/daughter dates" but I was lucky enough to get to spend a lot of one-on-one time with both my mom and my dad as a teen and it was always just "hanging out with Mom/Dad". Saying you're actually *dating* your child/have been dating them since they were a baby is just so beyond weird

[@Po.the.penguin.Creates]

I love how the teddies have lots of different outfits ❤

[@strawberry_fields16]

13:51 just casually flexing her singing, that would be a great moment to promote her music hahaha

[@christophersun]

favorite part of kiwi tik tok reactions is when she just casually brings out her beautiful singing voice just to avoid copyright

[@briannaobrien4419]

This is why gender selective ivf terrifies me.

[@lulolie]

😦

[@PoliceOfficer-b4d]

13:51 off topic but her voice slays

[@Hana_H]

It does

[@mariskaisaac9474]

I saw a picture of a guy wearing a "normalize mother son marriage". The weirdest part was some old guy was wearing it.

[@andrewcolon270]

I think, and I really hate to say it, it's a a fetish

[@londonhughes5986]

Another note: assumption that their son will date only cis women in the future. What if he’s not fully straight or even transgender and not a “he”?

[@lulolie]

Don't tell them that >_> these people are the types to disown the kids or smother them

[@kylief03]

To preface, I agree that boy mom culture is weird and there's a lot of messed up emotional incest happening. BUT in the case of the mom and son where she's like "lets go on a date" and he says "no way Jose" and she says "I fought for these dates," the context changes it a bit. The mom is in remission from leukemia, and for a long time, she was pretty much unable to do anything with her boys due to the cancer. Thats her oldest son, and mother-son dates are something she fought to be able to keep doing when she was fighting cancer. I would say that its weird to call them "dates", but I dont think theres really anything wrong with the activity outside of the mental framing. Mother-child days where a mom is able to spend one-on-one time with her child, son or daughter, are important and valuable. Just.. dont think of them as dates or say youre dating your child.

[@SpecialBlanket]

But kiwi isn't talking abt the cancer part, she's talking abt the dates part

[@garlicbutter8733]

i think "dates" are ehh, like i get saying "oh im going on a friend date" or smth, and i apply that to this since - its when the mom describes it as "me and my child are practically dating" when it gets weird

[@Doodlesoak]

i see sav, I click video

[@PokhrajRoy.]

2:10 It’s like patriarchy bingo out here

[@saccharay]

Toxic boy mums need to stop proving Freud right I'm actually sobbing...

[@justaguy.literallyjustaguy]

I used to go on "dates" with my grandpa all the time, because my (single) mom worked full time and my grandma was very mean to the both of us and he never even talked much around her because she always talked down to him. But my grandpa was the sweetest, most caring man, and thise lunch "dates" were our few times of respite from her horrible behavior where we spent the whole time talking and making jokes that she would call "stupid" and put us down for laughing at, so in my opinion platonic and familial dates are SO important, and it's really gross to think that these moms would claim themselves to be their son's "first girlfriend." Like, just go out to eat with your kids and have good quality time, you do NOT have to make it so WEIRD 😭🤮

[@PlayerTenji95]

I’m so glad you had your grandpa in your life! ❤

[@jongkittae]

6:00 nah you're right that is fuckin WEIRD. like my first thought was literally "that's not a boy that's a baby" lmao like putting INFANTS into gender roles is INSANE. to that mother: please take so many seats and while you're sitting there just consider that you're out here forcing a gender role ON A BABY. and then cease and desist this weirdo behaviour before it ruins your relationship with them.

[@Никодим-м9ъ]

Please blur the kids' faces next time. They can't consent to be shown online. Also there's a lot of creeps and pedos out there

[@skribble-]

13:53 just casually became taylor swift for 5 seconds, oml ur singing is amazing o:

[@ashleymarie6585]

imagine if there was a group of tiktok dads who acted this way towards their daughters lol… people would be UP IN ARRRRMMMSS

[@Floweroftheburningwoods]

Ayyyy cool rainbow lady is back with another banger!

[@thedeathbird]

i am a little scared to know how boy moms react to gay sons

[@LinkDropsRupees]

The answer is they react badly

[@melhawl3685]

Actually some love it. They will never be "replaced"

[@_Serial_Something_]

@@melhawl3685well not by a girl that is.

[@ch3lsxo173]

As a girl who’s always known that my brother was the favourite it always aggravates me when “boy moms” claim that they treat their kids equally and think that their daughter doesn’t pick up on it…lady she knows and she’s gonna resent you…

[@KB-lt5fg]

I'm new here but I love that the SKZOOs change around every episode 😭❤️

[@MC-sp1rr]

OK BUT THE SINGING??!! LOVE IT

[@ErutaniaRose]

So hyped today. Got my garden planning started (still gotta wait on cicadas to actually make and plant it tho), and another toxic boimum videeoooo!

[@DonnaDaraki]

13:58 or so. That singing is BEAUTIFUL

[@booterfly6367]

The first lady had me for the first 3 seconds, cuz im like, oh yeah, my kids have my heart and soul too, absolutely valid, thinking she's referring to her only kid. Nope. Little Stevie Lee is out here with her mom talking about how she prefers her brother 🤡

[@schmumlauf]

Favoritism damages the favorite kid so much. Parents can teach their children how to be loved without being overbearing. That's what parenting is. David Sedaris thought my mom was my girlfriend but that's just because she looks younger

[@TheOracleAtDelphinetlyNot]

Her singing voice is absolutely angelic!!!!!

[@Pvppy_dr3amz]

I'm the son of a "boy mom" type mom didn't realize it at the time but looking back at it our relationship was really really creepy and like extreme emotional incest to the point my was concerned and let me move in with him which I didn't wanna do since I hated him but I needed to for college. My mom ended up having a meltdown and screamed at me "why don't you love me" and told me I hated her and talked about wanting to kill herself and guilt tripped me. Still love her she found out she had borderline personality disorder and is doing much better. I have alot of issues from this but I forgive her she had a really hard life and my father was extremely neglectful and abusive so I was all she had. I was her only source of vaildation and happiness and I help her through alot of bad shit she I don't regret it but I do have a bit of anger at her for not putting herself first and letting men treat her like shit and made herself think she needed to be dependent on a pathetic man child. I wish she stood up to that asshole but I understand. I hate what these mom's are doing but from having a mom like this I feel bad because I feel like they might have something going on mentally or with their spouses like my mom did.

[@Nachiebree]

As the movie Psycho says, "a boy's best friend is his mother".

[@alroyravenscroft5831]

I love watching you react to boy mums and just plead with them to stop. It always makes me chuckle and I definitely agree with what you say. Boy mums freak me out

[@michiko_nox]

9:58 WHAT is that caption too. oh my god i can't with these people

[@SpecialBlanket]

The one in the corner? That's kiwi's

[@PetThePeeves]

Some of these are straight up emotional incest. It’s like they were pick me girls, didn’t quite grow out of it, then became helicopter moms on top of it. I’m not a mom because I’ve known my entire life no baby would come forth from my womb, but I am a teacher and while it is NOT by any means the same thing…I do spend a LOT of time with them. And I do believe, especially as the only girl with two younger brothers, that there’s something different about little boys. They are gods of absolute chaos, and even my middle schoolers sometimes didn’t even mean to be. I mean sometimes they VERY much meant to be a menace, but sometimes stuff got broken because they just play differently. That’s the only mindset in which “boy mom” makes sense to me. I have two cousins, one with two boys and one with one. This has kind of ruined “boy mom” for them. Their dad (whom I miss very much, and passed before he got to meet his grandsons) always called himself a girl dad, the joke being he wasn’t good at playing Princess. But he did it anyway and had fun. He loved them beyond measure. I was his tomboy buddy, but they were princesses. It kind of came natural to them to say “boy mom” just like their dad said “girl dad”. But then these creeps show up… Honestly it’s easier for me to handle boys because I had my younger brothers as well as a dad that thinks he’s still a kid at 67. That’s because it’s what I grew up with. But why should that negate the experience of bringing up a girl? There are things that are absolutely as precious and fun with girls. I just don’t get it. My parents were all about being “gender equal” (not neutral) even when I was born in ‘86. If I wanted the boy toy at McDonald’s that’s what k got. If I wanted to dress up, that’s what I did. And I feel like that made THEIR own experience better. I was just their kid. I didn’t feel pressured to like dresses more than pants, I just liked what I liked when I did. So they got to experience all aspects of their kid instead of just the box they done in..

[@jesterking1012]

The only good part about these clips- is getting to hear Kiwi sing

[@kimhackett9675]

Boy Mums Existing Problematically is the name of my imaginary upcoming pop punk album

[@wouldntyouliketoknowwesath7789]

:0 you're really good at singing!

[@commandercorl1544]

Yep, her outro that she plays at the end of her videos was sung by her.

[@stegosaur9812]

10:24 YOUR REACTION HAHAHA 😭😭 i totally agree

[@jinn8339]

13:53 not you outsinging everyone

[@ayeeeerin4999]

Yessss here within the first 30 minutes! Love your perspective kiwi! You have made me want to move to New Zealand SOOO badly. I have been trying to convince my family to come with but they are too set in their ways.😩 for now sending love from Boston 💜💜💜

[@rainfuaxuan_]

i deadass starting dancing when you sang

[@magicivy]

I have no idea why I’m being recommended christian videos on KZbin, so I’m glad I’m not the only one being shown random things for no reason

[@Eddysig]

Yay Kiwi! I don't always click your videos about cringe conservatives as a super stressed trans guy feeling like the world is against me, and I'm happy to see another toxic boy moms video lol. I loooove your passionate takes about parenting, it feels like my childhood is healing by hearing things I've always needed to hear man 🥺🥹

[@ErutaniaRose]

It's fucking depressing that our idea of raising a boy is so neglectful. Not teaching your kids to cook, clean, take care of themselves IS NEGLECT.

[@spiderprincess7133]

I was shocked when you sang enchanted omgg youre such a good singer??