Logging Railroad Update

[@chrishereford5969]

Thank you Dale and Karyn, That sure was an eye opener, of the earlier stressful days gone by. The stripes without stars, sure brought a tear to the eye! The bridges in those photographs were testament to the 'Never say die!' attitude of those who've gone on before. They sure left a lot to emulate, especially their attitude to get the job done with whatever you have! I thoroughly enjoyed this video of yours, and was amused by Karyn's 'matter of fact!' ending of this episode, which sure made me chuckle! Thank you for doing what you do, because it is something all of us love and share, but not all of us have the patience to accomplish. I loved every bit of it. Thank you! To use a phrase you coined, "I found it stinkingly cute! God Bless!

[@charlesbryant1547]

If I could choose to live anywhere in the world, it would be a next door neighbor to you two. Love you guys!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi and thanks!!

[@terielrand8344]

My dad and grand dad felled timber on their ranch and milled railroad ties for the Kettle Falls branch of the Great Northern Railroad in north-east Washington state. My dad remembered it as a hard days work...

[@duanewhite3275]

Really enjoying this series on your logging railroad. Excellent modeling by both of you. Thank you.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks!!!! Cribbing next up.

[@dougcostello9064]

Looking nice. 👍

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks!!! As Im running out of stuff, need to make a bunch of ties, BUT need rail and more stick pencils... SO may be back on the coaling tower for a bit... Who knows?

[@davidjohnson8175]

As a viewer from the UK I have to say I really do enjoy your videos. I'm work and have a big I treat in railways but i do enjoy the American railways. I'm hoping you do a video on the tennessee pass as that's my new interest. Keep them videos coming in our troubling Times we have. Stay safe David

[@jonheller2307]

Very nicely covered. Thanks for sharing. Nice way to end a stressful week.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi Jon. Thanks!!!! We had more than our share too... damn.

[@craft-o-matic2377]

Logging off! Oh my stars! Fascinating video you two! Love the old photos. We may be building like this again sooner than one thinks... Lisa

[@jacobramsey7624]

I love logging railroads!!! I love trains and i love the woods so it just fits together. Looking forward to seeing the logging locos! Also, look up the White Mountain Central Railroad if you get a chance. They have a single stall engine house for repairs on locomotives which could be good inspiration for your engine house. Be sure to check out there railfans weekend from 2018, they did a lot of fun stuff that could provide more inspiration.

[@krissfemmpaws1029]

Logging methods varied region-by-region but they had one overriding theme, that being get it done as inexpensively and efficiently as possible. Having hunted in areas here in the Pacific Northwest that were logged in the age of steam some of the ravines they spanned was impressive. I think that could be the reason I'm enjoy your logging railroad videos more.

[@williambryant5946]

The track looks great! Awesome work. Definitely will represent a logging railroads attitude of get it done with minimal work. Amazing how things were done before government intervention with regulations into everything. Great video as always. Stay well. -Wil 👍

[@robertdavies5501]

Very neat ....love the shay ! I put a round house model a three truck shay bought in Canada whilst on holiday h.o. I love it. your handiwork is awesome so creative 👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👀 can't wait for the next instalment

[@daviemaclean61]

Brilliant progress - some very beautiful modelling. I know what you mean about the right sized logs - you can never find them when you're looking for them. Neat idea with the natural pencils though. Cheers

[@hamiltonsullivan6563]

Awsome looking shay toyman!!!! And I love the snow globe Karyen!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Can you believe how tiny that snow globe is!

[@hamiltonsullivan6563]

@@ToyManTelevision Amazing right! Wish I could even attempt to have the patience to make that since thing ( :

[@jamesf791]

Shay's are so fun. Love the idea of making some of the ties to look more like logs. And the snow globes are pretty cool. Love you adventures. Can't wait until the next installment of the railroad

[@ToyManTelevision]

This week cribbing!

[@jimkammerer8028]

AWESOME GOOD VIDEO VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE THANK YOU BOTH BE Safe and careful ENJOY the DAY BLESS you both. JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA THANK YOU AGAIN 👌📸🚂🚂🚂👍😷😷😷

[@royreynolds108]

A few things to comment on. The D&RG RR started by using 30 lb and 40 lb rail. Most logging companies bought 2nd-hand rail from railroads or scrap yards. Those timber bridges made of cribs or logs were made so that when the track was taken up, the logs in the bridges were also picked up and taken to the sawmill. Needless to say, no metal was used to assemble those bridges.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yeah I’m close inspection mostly they’re just sort of stacked up cribbing. And speaking of cribbing that’s what I’m working on right now and will probably be Sunday show

[@ZIGZAG12345]

Your attention to detail is superb!

[@lloydklein5171]

Nice to see all the progress!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi. THANKS!!

[@allanegleston4931]

where i live there was a logging rr called the pickering rr. it was listed as a common carrier as it had several " online " coustomers . keep up the good work.:)

[@ToyManTelevision]

We’ve seen a few. Wish we had a time machine!

[@johnrettig1880]

Don't get too carried away with the sanding or smoothing the log ties Leave some gouge marks to simulate the use of an Adz The adz looks like a broad pickaxe but was used in place of saws for quick carving and shaping of the RXR ties in the outback You should ask for Doorskin it's even thinner plus you get more for the money . That scale lumber can really be expensive depending where you get it and especially for large areas . Doorskin is the best way to go .

[@samfuller6273]

Slightly rough track is more realistic. A little bit of up and down and rocking back and forth would look cool!

[@samfuller6273]

Couple of low joints

[@ToyManTelevision]

It’s got a bit, about 2 degrees of tilt from side to side. Just enough for fun without harming operations.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I had this plywood. Order the wrong size a year ago. Figured I could use it sometime. Still have 3 sheets!

[@johnrettig1880]

@@ToyManTelevision OK But really give the Doorskin a try I've used it off and on as a base for some of my Dioramas . Something else that you can try is Concrete Adhesive for the road bed outdoors . It's more durable then the watered-down white glue .

[@lotsatrains]

What a fantastic job you guys are doing, this is going to be so amazing, I just can’t get enough of seeing such a great logging layout that this going to be in every detail and thanks for giving us all the tips and showing how it’s being done.

[@ToyManTelevision]

This Sunday a detour. But next Sunday we lay track!! I hope...

[@Rebel9668]

Dab a little wood putty on the end of those pencil ties. You can get it in different shades. If I had known folks collected sticks I could have made a killing by now what with as many as I pick up out of my back yard every year, LOL! I usually have a good size bon fire every fall getting rid of that years' sticks. Back yard has big old, old trees. Maple, Oak, Black Walnut, Tulip Poplar, Fir, Crab Apple and Bradford Pear and one young Plum tree, lol. For future reference, if you ever want to make something of wood and give it a painted finish afterwards and don't want the end grain of the cut to show all rough, get out your putty knife and some spackle and spackle over the ends of the boards, lightly sand when dry, then paint and they'll be as smooth as the finished sides.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Our friend Al used to advocate for using the sticks that fell off of weeping willow trees. This is because he had a weeping willow tree dropped about 4000 of them in his yard every year. But all of those great pine trees are made out of those.

[@stephenriley9084]

Great episode! Regards Stephen.

[@robertweldon7909]

The further you go with this series, the more impressed I am with the skill level you both have. Except for locomotives and rolling stock, everything seems to be scratch built. 1:20.3 is so big, details are very much exposed, leaving the modeler with a ton of work. I hope folks realize that this model is going to take a very long time to build (to the detail level needed). It is going to be fun to watch the progress. I think I am going to learn an awful lot in the future. ;-)

[@lescobrandon3047]

I have been in model railroading since 1965 (I’m 80 years young this month) and thought I knew it all. But it’s in O scale and this road is teaching me that I knew nothing in comparison. Two great artists are making this road and I hope to live long enough to see the road near completion.

[@vincentcalvelli6452]

You are making great progress on your railroad

[@ToyManTelevision]

Pandemic projects!

[@pbyfr]

Nice progress

[@ritaloy8338]

I can tell that you were tied up with logs. At least you did have to aze your way through to smooth the top of the logs as they would have on the real logging railroads. As usual another great video.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi Rita! Yup the aze wood be better. Wood 🪵 get it? Anyway more coming

[@jimkammerer8028]

VERY NICE AND INFORMATIVE VIDEO ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR SCREWING AROUND TIME SHARING THIS WITH YOUR SUBSCRIBERS ALWAYS INTERESTING NEVER BORING ALWAYS GOOD. THE PUNS ARE STINKING CUTE. JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA THANK YOU 👌😷😷👍🚂🚂📸🥰

[@PoconoMountaineer405]

That picture of shay going thru water is awsome, I looks like a someone made a lake in the middle of the tracks. Also did you know the first RR tracks on the East coast where just peices of wood with steel plating on it, in fact the first steam engine to run in the USA ran on tracks that where just wood along a water level route

[@lackawannarailfan]

Awesome! You guys are doing great! If I were you I would also go for a bigger rail like you did so you can run all of your equipment. Better that than them collecting dust! Take care!

[@ToyManTelevision]

The code 215 it perfect. Can’t run our lgb up here but can on the line below

[@lackawannarailfan]

@@ToyManTelevision Yep! Have a great day!

[@samfuller6273]

Good show!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi. And THANKS

[@larry254]

Dale/Karyn, Awesome railroad, mining is what I was brought up on - Love the Shays. When modeling the same in HO/Hon3, how do I measure that to scale? HO is HO regardless (I think) but, if I was to scratch build my buildings, a bridge or (wreckage) a shack. Thank you for taking the time to share these with us.

[@valeriebassett3107]

A really great video. Oh I love your Shay. You inspire me to start a rr someday.

[@ToyManTelevision]

thanks.. DO!!

[@ewoodrailway]

Looking very nice

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks. Stay safe out there!!

[@gardenrailroading]

That is Beautiful!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks!! On to cribbing!

[@robertlucido3686]

About how you were talking about different code rails, I've seen several videos about that with HO gauge and N gauge (which are the two gauges I'm using on my layout) I like using code 100 for my HO scale track and code 80 for my N scale because I like running old trains as well as new ones

[@kenshores9900]

Too funny! So many one liners and puns. This looks really neat. The Shay looks really great. Even down to the rail! See you on Tuesday. (oh by the way where did you get the sound of the little rocket in your intro? It sounds some what like a V1 pulse jet engine.)

[@rileydog362]

Very nice !

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi. Love your stuff for sale. Tempted on a few things. But this damn pandemic has us locked down.

[@rileydog362]

@@ToyManTelevision If you ever see anything of interest just drop me a note on facebook and thanks for posting such neat videos and adventures on your channel .

[@Bauschardchristian]

The picture of the shay going through the water I believe was taken near Elkins West Virginia and is the West Virginia Pulp and Paper Co.

[@ToyManTelevision]

YUP!! Most of the photos we used from Virginia!

[@terrydikkers4707]

Very neat. Wow do you get up early to post this, I live on the east coast. Keep up the work and stay safe.

[@caseyvillemodelrailroad3877]

Ties are looking great, mite try some vines as ties and they have a great looking bark , core looks realist in scale rings and pick your diameter ...

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yup. Some are. Soft but often works.

[@clintloren6710]

what size railroad is closes to use with 1/35 scale military figures your videos are entertaining and fun thanks

[@ToyManTelevision]

Close. It depends.... The track is #1 gauge, 1.75 inches. The Shay is 1:20.3 scale. Scales to 3 foot gauge. Meter gauge stuff is 1:22.5 scale but standard gauge is 1:32 scale. The structures are mostly 1:20.3 scale to match the 3 foot gauge trains. But in the city they are 1:24 scale.

[@clintloren6710]

thank you@@ToyManTelevision

[@boomerdiorama]

The correct method to use PL300 (if you are not aware) is to push down the foam or board (vica-versa) to the surface, then peel it off, and then push it down again. This way the air gets into the "micro" pockets of the glue (in this case PL300) and it cures and bonds properly. I know this because I was a foam sculptor in the film and entertainment industry for several decades. Cheers.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi Didn't know, but I do that anway! I want to make sure the wood or foam is making good contact so i press it in place, pull it up and check to see if its making good contact everywhere. Steve used to do that as well for a living. If you have ever been to the Luxor in Vegas the concrete statues in front are his as well the the huge statues in the entrance. Carved from foam. Then rubber molds made and cast in concrete or expanded foam depending. He also made a 1/3 scale temple for the river ride when it opened. But they tore it out after like 3 years. But thats where the statues in the enterance came from....

[@ToyManTelevision]

PS. Have you see our show on "The Giver?"

[@ToyManTelevision]

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[@Mike-tg7dj]

Awesome video, I have to ask is that collapsed mountain in the background behind the coalinga tower? If you're viewing the video it is to the right. Is that homage to the Thistle Mud Slide? It looks just like a mountain giving way? It really does!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Its Horseshoe Mountain. But I sort of missed the look. Same area. a few miles for the slide.

[@scootosan]

I see your texturing (landscape) I am not a modeler to your extent. I wonder if using a spray on drywall product like ( Homax) for "Knockdown" would work as those come in various textures (?). Those I know can be purchased at hardware and big box stores.

[@crownironman]

would it be possible to shave real bark of twigs and glue the real bark to the dowels?

[@ronniedavis3713]

Dale, Great Work !!!! Are you going to build a full scale sawmill on this layout ???

[@ToyManTelevision]

Wish we had the room. Was planning a wood burner. May be able to fit that.

[@realtoytrains]

Well we finally started our channel in April and we’re gaining some “traction” pun intended!! So come on over and check us out! LOVE WATCHING YOU GUYS ❤️😊🚂

[@154Colin]

As an example you know how they have "Proto 48" do they have a "Proto 20.3?" It would be so interesting to see that Code 148 [aka 30#] rail used.

[@jimkammerer8028]

ENJOY YOUR SCREWING AROUND TIME DOWLING AND PENCILS WHAT EVER WORKS. BUT ENJOY THE SCREWING AROUND TIME PLEASE JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA. 👌👍👍👍😷😷😷🚂🚂👍

[@ronniedavis3713]

Dale, Two quick questions for you ??? Do you have plans that you can show for the logging layout ?? Or are you just winging it. And do you plan to build it to take to train shows ???

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi. No real plan. One track. About 30 feet long. Switch at one end for a one stall engine house. At the other end a horseshoe curve to a dead end. Someday? A hanging track system returning to the other end. Another horseshoe curve on the hanging system. So it can loop. But probably not. Just one track point to point.

[@chrisstannard2092]

Ronal wheels on your gt500?

[@bubbaskywalker3129]

More logging railroad videos!!!!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Coming right up!

[@154Colin]

Some enterprising person should come up with a way to make make-shift-type ties for a Garden-Scale MRR.

[@jeffthorson625]

so i had a problem the other day i bought western red cedar cut ties left them 8 feet long for months then when i went to go build a test track i went to cut the ties i ripped them to 1:20.3 scale so when i went to cut them to scale they where about 5 and 3/4 inches and i put glued and nailed them on the test track they looked funny so i had to go back cut them back to look right i am hand laying it with tie plates and i have only laid 6 inches so far

[@ToyManTelevision]

Red cedar is so hard to work with! But worth it looks great. And chips to look scale. I love my “dead tie pile”! Red cedar. Don’t breath the dust!! Live the smell but really hard on the lungs.

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

A logging model railroad needs at least one Bigfoot hiding somewhere under a bridge or up in a tree. I’ve never seen one and I don’t want to be cornered by one but I believe that Bigfoot are real.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I worked on a big foot movie back in the 70’s. Documentary. Right.... totally. We staged much of the footage and the interviews were actors. I was sound. And my check cleared so I didn’t care...but great idea!!!! I know just the spot!

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

No matter what you think on Bigfoot or whatever else I’d give you the shirt off of my back if you needed it. I wish I lived farther west like the Dakotas or Montana. Things got crazy here in Minnesota last summer not far from where I live.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I don’t know ANYTHING about big foot! But he will look cool on the layout!

[@154Colin]

"Logging Off." Really Karyn!? :):):) Dale? Keep her focused. :):):)

[@jimkammerer8028]

ITS ALWAYS A COMPROMISE TO MAKE IT WORK. JUST HUMMM.

[@jimkammerer8028]

AMAZON....