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We are back this week working on our large-scale logging railroad, this week making ponds and streams using Woodland Scenics Deep Pour Water kit.
The end is in sight!! The logging railroad is nearly finished! We still have the sound system to build and the backdrop to finish. Then the final assembly on the wall! Sure, we will still have the "Big Canyon" to build, but first, back to the lower railroad.
We have been getting ready to pour the clear water now for several weeks, and this week, we gather everything together and use Woodland Scenics Deep Pour Water in clear to create several streams, two small ponds, and the large pond at Strebal Springs.
While there are several products for making clear water, and all are more affordable, Woodland Scenics is what we tested and we know will work well, so that is what we are sticking to. We are following Woodland Scenics instructions as best we can, while throwing out several of the items they supply. The "rubber gloves", the mixing cup with decal measurements in favor of a real mixing cup, and the plastic bag to place the bottles in while heating in hot water.
We are making three 1/2 inch deep pours over three days. We THINK that's what Woodland Scenics is telling us to do but that's not really clear. No matter, this worked well.

[@jimmyduncan7650]

I'm so glad the water went well 😃 Karyn- Please ask the banker to feed the fish! Thank you 😊

[@ToyManTelevision]

I’ve been trying to get another copy of the banker. It was sculpted by a guy in Hawaii who used to sell those. He no longer casts them but does 3-D prints of them through shape ways. Except for some reason he no longer offers the banker.

[@tomas5376]

If I didn't know better, I swear it looks like real water. Nothing "Fishy" about it! Night view is spectacular!

[@ToyManTelevision]

I’ve got an interesting lighting affect for night. I haven’t figured out how to use it just yet! It’s really large and there’s no way to rig it into the layout. I may just use it for taking pictures but it really adds a dynamic look.

[@iannarita9816]

Don't get flooded out! Remember in a flash flood turn around don't drown.😀😀 All I could think of on short notice. Thx again for some great videos.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi and thanks!! In this drought this plastic water seems like a cruel joke.. Governor has asked everyone who to pray for water. I feel like sending him a link to this video and ask him if this is what he had in mind. I sort of think it’s not. Anyway it was 102 today, and the closest rain was 1000 miles from here. But hey we’re making water!

[@jimkammerer8028]

YOU BOTH ARE AWESOME AND IMPRESSIVE MODELING YOUR PROJECTS I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR WORK AND VIDEO'S ITS MY GOAL FOR THE WEEK. ALWAYS GOOD AND INFORMATION TO WATCH. YOU TOYMAN CHANNEL IS 1 OF MY FAVORITE THING TO WATCH ALL WEEK

[@ToyManTelevision]

Wow!!! Thanks. Tell your friends!!

[@Shadowfax-1980]

The night shot is magnificent!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks 😊

[@jimkammerer8028]

Yes testing to see what your final results will be is a true craftsman way. Very interesting and informative never boring you both are very good at this.

[@gregsmith1719]

It's looking great, Dale! Keep it up!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks!! We’re getting so close to having this “done“. Sound, backdrop and mounted on the wall. Then weeks of touch up.

[@georgebottarini1788]

Great work. Beautiful result. Looking forward to next week.

[@ToyManTelevision]

If the sound system works out the show will be on that. Otherwise it will be on the windmill that goes just passed the big bridge. So far the sound system looks like it’s going to work great but will know a lot more when I plug it into power.

[@hamiltonsullivan6563]

Now that is some clear water!! Wish I could make it look that nice when I give it a shot.... the fish is a nice touch ( :

[@ToyManTelevision]

I really love the way the fish turned out. Karen really pulled that one off.

[@NYCJDClark]

Looks great! I may have to try pouring some water sometime. The after dark scene looks so calm and peaceful.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I just love doing night scenes. Even as a kid I left putting lights and all of my buildings and then turning out the room lights and running to Train’s around. I had lights in the passenger cars and it was just so much fun

[@kevinyoung9557]

Fantastic work

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi and THANKS!!

[@Brianrockrailfan]

Liked video 👍

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi. Thanks!! Stay tuned!! Sounds are coming

[@Santafefrank]

Very nice

[@154Colin]

Looks good 👍👍

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks.

[@modelrailroadadventureswit6347]

Looks absolutely fabulous 👍🏼👍🏼

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks

[@coverdalemineoscalemodelrr7074]

Awesome scenery love the fish

[@ToyManTelevision]

Love those fish. From above look 100% perfect 😍. Makes me wanna take up fishing 🎣. Or not.. but a figure ofTom Sawyer fishing on the bank.

[@stephenriley9084]

Dale, Karyn, Great pond. Super wetland work between the two of you. Regards Stephen.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi and THANKS!!! Next week we hope to show, well play, the sound board.

[@gromit8023]

Looking good :)

[@medwaymodelrailway7129]

Hi great update today like it very much.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks again for watching!! Really love the way it turned out so far

[@FunAtDisney]

It looks great and what a neat look at “night”, and with your crickets chirping I could just walk right into the scene!

[@ToyManTelevision]

That is the actual soundtrack from the sound system. Hopefully that will be next Sunday show. But I’ve got three soundtracks. Day, night, and night with jukebox. On the jukebox, Dean Martin doing Volari.

[@FunAtDisney]

@@ToyManTelevision I have a martini ready! 🍸

[@ChristopherBrown-mq1lg]

Nice job 👍 looks really good!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks

[@MrHighelf09]

Looks great. Happy to see the fish LOL!!!!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Sign on the layout front. “Catch the fish!”

[@kevinholland4156]

That water feature is fantastic. It sure beats that old fake water goop.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi Kevin. Love this stuff. Expensive but works well and works counts for a lot.

[@nathancorcoran5347]

Pretty cool video.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi and thanks. Hope you are well. Nice hearing from you

[@bernardc2553]

WOW impressive, Who'd thought instructions would make such a difference lol ! Great job U-2.. :-)

[@ToyManTelevision]

We added the last pour a week ago, just before the show went up, and yesterday I added Lilly pads karyn made for the pond. Today finishing the sound system!

[@MODELMIND72]

This is Amazing detail!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks

[@modelmantstewart1292]

Looking awesome

[@ToyManTelevision]

We are thrilled! Karyn has an idea for some lily pads

[@cbgadget4740]

It looks awesome, ya did a great job, fantastic 👍👍👍

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks 🙏

[@charlesmcclure5994]

All you need now is a guy fishing from the bank it's looking good 👍👍

[@ToyManTelevision]

Coming right up!

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

At 22:43 in this video: *Beautiful!*

[@ToyManTelevision]

Those are the actual sounds that will be playing through the sound system! Hopefully that will be next Sunday show.

[@jimkammerer8028]

Looking good 👍can't wait to see the final results Jim KAMMERER FROM PHILADELPHIA PA 👍.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi again! I’ve ruined so many models by accident now I just test everything

[@stevemellin5806]

Looks great fish are a great touch .

[@ToyManTelevision]

Karyn did a GREAT JOB on them.

[@garyslentzii2796]

DON'T JUMP Banker guy, the water ISN'T REAL!!! Looks amazing as does all the rest. The little shack is sooo beautiful. ❤👍🏻

[@ToyManTelevision]

Fortunately this is all taking place after the depression and he’s fine! His stock portfolio is back in good shape.

[@wykedinsanity]

yup torch the bubbles

[@farmert9679]

Great video of a great pour!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi! Really turned out nice. And now I can sleep at night. I literally have been worried over this thing. It’s just that you have to put so much work in on the very last thing you do is pour the water, and if that screws up, it was all for nothing!

[@trainroomgary]

🚂 Cool & well done demonstration 👀

[@ToyManTelevision]

Thanks 😊

[@valeriebassett3107]

I think that it looks fantastic! The line on the second pour sort of looked like water movement from the fish. Great job and great video. ❤️

[@ToyManTelevision]

Boy oh boy do we want t make a colorado trip. Soon. Start up your way and end up at Royal gorge.

[@daviddaniels2499]

I've been sitting here "pond"ering what you did. Not too shabby, good job considering its woodland products. I don't have a layout yet, but scratch build everything. Will probably have a water scene as well.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I mostly like woodland. Over priced. But always works for me. Well mostly

[@Deadbuck73]

My first layout on foam was going to have a cranberry bog and River... it would’ve been a hot mess if I actually poured the water! I had not even close the barrier you have between the water and foam! Great teaching moment here!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Cranberry bog. Love that idea. Saw so many in Washington State.

[@Deadbuck73]

@@ToyManTelevision I’m biased! The Cranberry bogs are better here in Cranberry Country! Cahvah MA! (That’s Carver MA for those that talk funny! Yes home to Edaville USA and Thomas Land!)

[@PaulA-yh7kr]

Dale don't think about the coast, you could own a boat, a hole in the ocean you pour money in. When I started a layout I bought a book called HO Primer and in it was a spot that said don't worry about making a mistake you will have the fun of doing it twice! Paul

[@ToyManTelevision]

Or three, no four times outside. More on that Sunday…!

[@caseyvillemodelrailroad3877]

Love the mossy bottom look... on mine before the next pore I've painted in frog eggs and some muddy movment of dirt in the water, a few wave line ect, then pored over it. Very 3D...

[@ToyManTelevision]

Making the bottom look right is the trick. And you must test because everything changes. The colors change between putting them on and when they dry and then they change again after you pour the clearcoat over them. But with a little faith you can say I know this looks screwy but in the end I know it will look great!

[@shedbythetracks]

Looks great! I wouldn't be able to sleep just thinking about what it cost me..

[@ToyManTelevision]

150. A bit more. Perhaps 170? Got a good deal at the Train Shoppe. But still expensive

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

This video kind of gives new meaning to the expression, _"a fish out of water."_ 😊😊😊 _"Smoke on the water"_ -- I am just GLAD that did not lead to _"FIRE IN THE SKY."_ 😉

[@ToyManTelevision]

We definitely don’t need to re-create the Fillmore west. Well at least not the fire if somebody wanted to re-create the Fillmore west, I’d be down with that! A friend of mine ran lights there! He was so darn good at it Jerry Garcia hired him away. I think the drugs had something to do with it too. I’m not the influence of the drugs he just always had good drugs! Or so I’ve been told….

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

@@ToyManTelevision >>> ☺️

[@tgmccoy1556]

I knew an old "Skunk Works" Engineer who had an Autographed picture of NASA's Gene Kranz. He had"Failure is Not An Option." On a plaque under the frame. He had a nice Ho layout.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I like Adam Savage from Myth busters. His shirt “ failure is always an option!”

[@ToyManTelevision]

Ps. Kranz was a true American hero..

[@tgmccoy1556]

@@ToyManTelevision Yep.

[@daviemaclean61]

Looks absolutely fantastic. I too share your fear/trepidation about pouring resin water - especially in large quantities. But, so far so good

[@ToyManTelevision]

I’ve had it ruin several models and dioramas. I put together one years back where a train had gone off of the wood Trestle and the whole thing was collapsed into a river. Built the locomotive from a plastic kit. Well the resin heated up and melted the locomotive. The whole mess went into the trash. Another time a 3 inch deep River cracked. I lived with it. But damn. Also the stink… and trapped air. I’ve been told this is envirotex. I may buy some to test. But this works. Spent 150 on it… but it looks great.

[@rodwarren2508]

Nice work. I used a water product from England made by Deluxe Materials called Aqua Magic. No mixing, no smell and dries without any bubbles.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Need to look into that. Can you pour it deep?

[@rodwarren2508]

@@ToyManTelevision Think so just like any other model water product, just in stages. Not sure of the prices in your country however I do believe it is available.

[@pbyfr]

Nice pond. These resin for making water always seem to be quite difficult to use. So I have only used the cheating method of fake shadow and gloss coat.

[@ToyManTelevision]

That’s what Steve has always used and he really makes it look good! That’s what we’ve got in the big water tank. It’s just a piece of wood on the top but it’s where it’s full of water!

[@robertbass9032]

It's a Thermocline.... :)

[@ToyManTelevision]

That’s exactly what it is!

[@robertbass9032]

@@ToyManTelevision Traversed a few during my scuba diving days ( 70s & early 80s).

[@drgwnut]

You guys really make this look easy and it is not! It could lead to a side job with Woodland. When I did my pour a few years back, about half of it drained through a tiny hole in the substructure. AAARRGGH

[@ToyManTelevision]

Been there done that. That’s why I was so very very careful to make sure the bottom is sealed up. Because I’ve had that very thing happen.

[@maddogmerv]

Very nice job this is looking really really good but I hate the thought of having to take out a loan just to make my pond.

[@ToyManTelevision]

In a previous comment somebody suggested a product which they’re calling epoxy but it can’t possibly be. Available at Home Depot. Same exact price but you get twice as much. May buy one of these and test it.

[@ronalddwyer6592]

The water is looking super fantastic. Are you going to add any ripples on the surface? I have used mod podge gloss to give the surface some ripple movements in the water. Be safe and can wait to see the finished look.👍🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂

[@ToyManTelevision]

I’m going to try something up in the swampy area

[@trs-no8lm]

Need a person fishing

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yup. Note the pile of earth and rocks in the corner. Need a figure to set there. Basic pole. Bamboo? Or Popeel pocket fisherman. I guess a basic metal pole from 1950.

[@wmjwell]

Hi Dale & Karyn. Just tell everyone that 1/2” is a thermal layer, lol. Did anyone else weigh in on the Steam Donkey? There are examples in KZbin.

[@ToyManTelevision]

In salt lake that’s a brine layer! But plans for the frick. Show coming up but 18” windmill with the Frick parked below it. And a barn of sorts on the backdrop. In the big canyon.

[@tgmccoy1556]

One other thing. (Puts on rumpled overcoat and lights cigar ) How about putting a rod and reel in the hands of the Banker Aadams?

[@ToyManTelevision]

I think Peter Falck’s best roll was Max in The Great Race. But I’d go with Columbo as well. However Days of Wine and roses….

[@ToyManTelevision]

Oh!! Some Like it Hot!

[@tgmccoy1556]

@@ToyManTelevision He was one of my favorites. Max had a tough job being. Fate's Minion.

[@ronniedavis3713]

Dale, I have a question for you??? After you poured the last drop of resin for the pond. Did you go back and removed that piece of plexiglass after everything dried.

[@ToyManTelevision]

Nope. It’s well stuck in place. But make a great window to the underwater

[@gn02020202]

I wonder if the lighter would get rid of your pond seam by the fish.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I think you would need to do the next pour befor the first was set. As soon as it cools off a bit.. but I think this is fine. The third left less of a seam.

[@gn02020202]

@@ToyManTelevision I guess that is where the testing and practice come in handy.

[@jacobramsey7624]

Willl you be working on the outside part of the layout soon?

[@ToyManTelevision]

Already started. Which is to say already started tearing it apart. We’ve got to rebuild a lot of it. Long story but when we do the show out there we can explain what went wrong. Today it was 102. Tomorrow it’s supposed to be 104. Then get hot for the rest of the week! So we are in. Again. If it’s not a pandemic it’s the sun.. but hope to have that part rebuilt soon.

[@robertweldon7909]

6/14/2021 Hey Guys; I came across a KZbin site today that featured an Fn3 layout of a portion of "West Side Lumber Co's" layout. One of the things featured was a Frick machine, exactly like the one you featured last week. If you are interested the channel is 4DPNR Movies, Bob Poli's Fn3 West Side Lumber, posted 5/5/2021. You will know if you have the correct channel by the photo of a model of West Sides little Plymouth engine #1. It's well worth a look. The 4DPNR folks are apparently associated with the Narrow Gauge convention folks. ;-)

[@ToyManTelevision]

Need to look at that!

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yup. Amazing!!! Wonder where this layout is..

[@wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695]

What is that galvanized steel hood thing in your shop it looks like a linotype lead melter is it and do you have a brand name? It's the shape of a steam donkey boiler

[@ToyManTelevision]

It’s a white metal cast in machine. Yes. Just like a Linotype. Same basic metal. We have several shows on it. Or with it or whatever. Let me look for a link.

[@wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695]

@@ToyManTelevision thanks, Im looking for one for models and lead melting for model boat keels and couldn't find any info on linotype furnices

[@ToyManTelevision]

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[@ToyManTelevision]

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[@wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695]

@@ToyManTelevision thanks again

[@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674]

Hello from Detroit Michigan brother we missed you at the rat 🐀 fink reunion no worries i got pics for you brother i will post a video

[@ToyManTelevision]

Yea. Cancer walk. We made it like half a mile…. But we had to support the family. Rather have our son in law back.. but it is what it is. Love to see pictures. Thanks 🙏

[@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674]

@@ToyManTelevision I am hoping to put a slideshow up on my KZbin channel are you subscribed to my channel

[@startrek91481]

I went to Home Depot and bought the epoxy used in random table videos on KZbin. As far as I can tell it's basically the same thing as the Woodland Scenics deep pour for half the price. I'm pretty sure it was this. Been 6 years, but the box looks familiar and the price is right. www.homedepot.com/p/FAMOWOOD-1-qt-Glaze-Coat-Clear-Epoxy-Kit-5050080/301826159

[@ToyManTelevision]

I’ve been told it’s something called Envirotec. Definitely doesn’t smell like a polyester or an Epoxy When it smells like anything at all it smells a bit like vinyl! I’m gonna try some of these other things but my experience with polyester has been a complete disaster. And really no better with epoxy.

[@ToyManTelevision]

I’ve been looking into that product. I don’t think it’s an epoxy. In name only. But your right. I think it’s this same thing!!! Looks the same. But epoxy is toxic. This is not it seems. At least the fumes aren’t. Epoxy will stink you right out of town. Whatever it is it does appear to be the same exact thing

[@startrek91481]

@@ToyManTelevision I don't recall any noxious fumes from it. The mixing process was slightly different, but you can easily chalk that up to different manufacturers. The pouring and curing phase was identical to that of the Woodland Scenics. I had to tear my layout down or I would send some pictures.

[@johnrettig1880]

Hi T M I was revisiting your video about the outside layout and I was wondering if you still have the item number of the tongue-and-groove planking that you used so I can see if they have or can get it at the Home Depot down here in Carson City NV . If you can it would make it easier for me on a different project . I'm trying to upgrade my oversized work shop so I can get started on my HO/HON3 indoor layout . Then after that I can get started with the 1:20:3 Outdoor project . If you can A really big 🇹🇭🇦🇳🇰 🇾🇴🇺

[@ToyManTelevision]

Hi. Nope. And we are tearing that out!! More on the show.. but it all needs to be redone. As I say more on the show. That stuff was not young and grove. This time it will be.

[@johnrettig1880]

@@ToyManTelevision OK thanks 🚂🚂

[@ernestsabatino826]

So where is this diorama going to be placed, in house, garage, outside, sold, or ????????

[@ToyManTelevision]

It’s sort of part of the layout mounted on the wall above the doors. So the tracks end up being almost 8 feet above the floor. Hard to see but it looked good when we test it in place. Large scale so it’s just really hard because they take up so much room.