Toyo Open Country At3 Review 14k Miles

[@kernmw10]

I think one thing that the Toyo has an advantage over the Falken is that they are lighter. In some sizes the Toyos are almost 10 pounds lighter. Lighter tire means less rotation mass; better braking, acceleration, fuel economy etc. For most folks that drive 95% highway and 5% off road they would have a better long term benefit with a light AT tire.

[@Jason-Samko]

Great point. In a 35 or smaller c rated to c rated I don't think it's that big of a jump in weight. But your point is spot on. Rotating mass is a huge deal.

[@ThaSubversive1]

I'm on my second set ... 35/12.5 under a RAM 2500 diesel crew cab long bed ... still had 3/32 @ 81+ thou miles ... & they are made in USA !!! Note: they are really quiet as well !!!

[@ArgyleAdams]

In the 35x11.5R17 load C size the Wildpeak AT4W's are 5.5 lb heavier per tire (68.5 lb vs 63 lb for the Toyos).

[@vincesmith764]

​@@ArgyleAdamsEXTRA # is. extra #. .sometimes you have to pick/choose/decide where/what to save # on..Most pepes do nt require extra tire #

[@ArgyleAdams]

@@vincesmith764 sort of. Extra unsprung weight counts way more than extra sprung weight.

[@olsonfun]

Great review, not biased. Exactly my thoughts on the Falkens, I only drive 7k miles a year or so, so they probably have half tread left but are 6 years old and hard as a rock and LOUD. I would almost rather have a tire with less tread life that I got the use out of before they got so hard and loud.

[@Jason-Samko]

Yep my good year ultra terrains did the same thing as the falkens. Once down to about half tread they got loud and hard. Thst was about 55k miles, similar to the falkens. But I did like that I could still have traction with them offroad and could worry about changing them when I wanted to without worrying about not having traction in the woods. I will go back to the falkens when these wear down. But these tires are great tires and very quiet and smooth riding for a quality all terrain.

[@shnerp]

Thanks for the in-depth review. I Just installed a set of Toyo open country at3s stock size on my Tacoma. Never had these before, but liking them so far. No road noise at all until 7o kph and some additional humming around 100kph. Performance in the rain is a million times better than the stock goodyears. Braking is excellent as well. I do expect faster treadwear due to the grippy rubber compound. Still haven't tested these on the trails yet.

[@Jason-Samko]

You will love them on the trail and they clear mud well too. I love everything about them except tread wear. But they come with a great warranty so I'd expect to get atleast 50 out of them. I'm hoping the Inital tread wear slows down.

[@michaelhernandez9522]

The makers of those tires on your truck are out of their FALKEN MINDS!!!!

[@Jason-Samko]

😂😂😂

[@bane1240]

Just ordered a set of these in 35x12.5x17's (actually 34.4) for my 23 JT - HA. First time Toyo customer. Always went w/cheaper tires on previous trucks. I live in Ohio and work from home so they should last awhile, hopefully. Chose these bcuz of their reputation and warranty and compared to other tires in this size range, the price for reputable brands was also great. I think if the side biters would have been more aggressive, they'd be an MT vs the AT they are. Glad to hear they are quiet too. That was also a factor. There's enuf noise in these Jeeps already without droning tire hum.

[@Jason-Samko]

I bet you are gonna love them. My only worry as a 40k mile a year driver is tire wear. But we will see gow they hold up. They have a fantastic warranty as well. But overall a great tire

[@toyotabrony]

I’m running Toyo open country at3 On my 2015 lifted Scion xB. With 65,000M P-metric. I never go offroad before, just making my lifted xB more useful. Such as for rain and snow. I do honestly agree that these tires are very amazing to have for our daily use. They handle so much better, it gives me better confidence. Just couple things I wish they could improve a bit more. The same as u said, make the grooves a bit deeper, and the side wall a bit more aggressive. To me, they should redesign and call it Toyo - open country at4, that would be a game changer and worth better buying. I do also agree that they do look like they already almost half way of the tread life. Had these for about almost 3 years now. I have no issues in them whatsoever. For my application, they are perfectly fine. Just couple things that should improve a bit better. But no complaints. Would I get the same tires, most likely yes.

[@Jason-Samko]

Love the honest and solid review. And love that yours made it to 65k miles. That gives me hope. Maybe they will harden up and slow down on the wear for me.

[@charliemcawesome5012]

Get LT model. Fixes a lot of your concerns. Except maybe not on a light Scion…. I put the LT’s on my new Landcruiser and love it.

[@toyotabrony]

@@charliemcawesome5012 I avoid those because on the heavy side and use gas a bit more. I use think and say next time maybe I should try the new Falken - wildpeak AT4W. But they weight 10 pounds more than mine. So it my experience with them on my lifted xB for daily use. I’m happy with them. And I’m most likely gonna stick with it

[@toyotabrony]

@@Jason-Samko I only did one time of my tire rotation lol. And so far, they are still even wear when the alignment is correct. Now I felt the slight pull. So I need to get them re-aligned again. 65k. Is best for my lifted xB application.

[@DUNEATV]

Here in Arizona with the jagged rocks, and very harsh deserts, the only tire that seems to hold up with my experience are the BFGoodrich all terrain and mud terrain. They came on both my Jeep Rubicons stock so I was happy!

[@Jason-Samko]

Heard good things about the bfgs

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

Yeah I have these on my Land Rover in Tucson Arizona and unfortunately I have the factory in 19 inch wheels that's why I got these otherwise on my other Land Rover with 16-inch wheels I like Mickey Thompson for the sidewalls handling all the Rocks down here the Baja boss Mt is an absolute monster

[@Coyote5555]

I love my Falkens,.. and this was a very informative video!

[@Jason-Samko]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@rwetmore2386]

I’m between these and the falken At4’s. Thanks for the information!

[@Jason-Samko]

My suggestion would be falkens. Owned so many sets of falkens and never disappointed

[@jameswright7923]

Also amazing for not hydro planeing and I found that rotating them every oil change like 2000 miles and literally no ware after 18,000 miles so rotation goes along way any one that know about tires will tell you that so rotate or loose

[@Jason-Samko]

I roate mine every 5k miles and they are wearing quicker than expected. That my only complaint.

[@tonyh4233]

Hi mate, great video, the road you drive on looks sand, that said the transition from sand to bitumen may indeed be sand papering your tyres

[@4512hr]

I highly recommend ROKBLOKZ mud flaps, I have them in my JTR and they are the best mod, keep the jeep pretty safe from flying rocks and cleaner 😉

[@Jason-Samko]

Mud flaps work great as long as they are the flexible ones. So they can fold back when hitting obstacles or buried in mud.

[@bmurphy386]

Excellent in rain and snow. I'm going 60k and probably still have 20k left. Solid offloading. I do have the e rated set. PNW tested and approved.

[@Jason-Samko]

Glad yoy are loving them

[@toyotabrony]

And to be honest. To me, I see 50/50 of people loves both Toyo - open country AT3 AND Falken - Wildpeak AT3W. Both are very very evenly well of the two all terrains. U generally can’t go wrong either one.

[@Jason-Samko]

That's what all the reviews I read too say. But my first hand experience is making me really wish I stuck with falkens

[@steveehh4567]

Love the AT3 however the Falken Wildpeak AT3 was voted best AT tire for 2023 on a Tacoma. (I’ve never tried those but heard they’re a heavy tire, the AT4w even more.) Also the new BFG KO3’s are 7lbs heavier than the KO2.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@steveehh4567 yep and weight always had to be taken into consideration

[@michaelprince77]

Ive tried every brand across three trd offroads, falken wildpeak at3w is still my favorite. But everyone is different. No experience with the new at4w yet. Time will tell.

[@Jason-Samko]

Agree 100%. Hard to beat the falken 3. Hopefully the 4 is just as good

[@jmyers6175]

Interesting, when those are done, go grab you some Faulkens.

[@Jason-Samko]

Will be back on falkens as soon as they wear down. Can't wait to try the falken at4 or the new hybrids.

[@Duckhunterbow]

Ive been through 2 sets of MTs on my tacoma. Im trying the Cooper rugged treks now and definitely like them better than the falken MTs. Probably going to try these or the falken ATs next. It'll be nice to have experience with MTs, a hybrid tire, and then aggressive ATs. I mainly want something that works well in the snow but doesnt get chewed up on gravel roads.

[@Jason-Samko]

I think ats are supposed to be best in the snow and will hold up well on the gravel as they are a harder duramiter lug than most mts are. I bet you would be happy with an at. But make sure it's 3 peak mtn rated for the snow.

[@Duckhunterbow]

@@Jason-Samko I've had issues with all season or more mild ATs getting chewed up on the gravel. The more cracks, crevices, and siping, the faster they go. The MTs sucked in the snow, but being large one piece lugs they held up really well for me. The current Coopers I have seem to be a good in between. Tons of people around here have the Falken ATs so I'm sure they'd do well too

[@rickwhitfield7617]

Nice overview buddy! I am torn right now on the falcon WP AT4 vs the toyo AT3s myself. Both would be in an LT tire, but the fact the WPs are 7 lbs heaving with only a C rating vs the Toyos in an E rating has me questioning MPG and road noise on the Falkens. I think the sidewall lugs on the WPs are adding that weight. I am a CO rock trail rider vs more mud and sand where you are... so not too worried there. Given it will be on a daily driver i think the Toyos win given i have a snow variable too, but a tough one!

[@Jason-Samko]

@rickwhitfield7617 that is a tough call. But I bet the toyos would be quieter and less mpg hit and more sticky off road with the softer durameter. And they are doing decent tread wear wise. Won't get the miles out of them like the falkens. But you will make up the cost savings with mpgs.

[@HDFoxra]

Just to point this out here: measure from the inside/middle, not the outside, if you're wanting to maintain your 'tread depth'. Gladiators front tires are kind of pigeon toed... aka, the outside is going to wear SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the inside. I have 64k on my factory tires, and am about to replace them with these Toyo's or maybe those Falken's. I'ma be raising hell at the dealer as well when i get things swapped over, because they were supposed to be rotating my tires whenever i bring it in, and it is EXTREMELY obvious that they have not been... my front tires are completely bald on the outside... yet the inside look almost untouched... unless my gladiator was faulty from the factory, i'd be expecting all of them to be like this... For reference, its completely stock. no lift, no nothing. only mods are some ditch lights, and a GSMR radio... I only got 2 years out of my stocks... so i'm GREATLY hoping that i can get more than that with some actual good branded tires this time around.... I drive over 100 miles a day for work... so if these can't last longer than cheap ass factory tires, then i'll be rather upset too...

[@Jason-Samko]

the toyos are wearing fast. Im at 32k miles and not impressed. The falkens on my wifes 4 runner are now at 40k miles and look brand new literally. taking her 4 runner in for tire rotation next week and will have them messure tread depth and gonna make a video about it. But the toyos are half what the falkens are and 30k on the toyos and 40k on the falkens.

[@fadedexile]

you''re going to be pretty pissed off. I have had Toyo AT3 for years on 3 different veehiclesand NONE of them has reached 50k miles, or even 40k... Ii'm doubtful about 30K. The one thing I will say is I have yet to find a terrain they cannot handle. From rocks to sugar sand, I always make it through. Quiet on the road. They seem a little too easy to puncture and they wear out too fast.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@fadedexile good Info. And I 100% agree. 30k on them and feel the same way

[@stunningandbrave3527]

Yup 30k on mine and theyre trash what a joke especially for the price

[@Jason-Samko]

@@stunningandbrave3527 mine are just over 30k now and I'm not happy

[@jameswright7923]

Nice tire a lot less noise on highway I found than wild peaks.

[@Jason-Samko]

Love everything about these but the tread wear. Hopefully that slows down.

[@jons7436]

Why aren't you rotating the spare?

[@Jason-Samko]

@jonsager7436 too muck trouble to mess with and then when I buy new tires again I would have to buy 5 again

[@michaelhernandez9522]

Im telling you Kelly Edge MT... check them out brother. You won't regret it. Way nicer and longer lasting. They are great in MUD AND ROCKS...NO SLIP OR CHUNKS COMING OFF OF RUBBER TREAD. They are siped perfectly.

[@Jason-Samko]

Will check em out when time come for new ones

[@braccobaby]

Why arent you rotating your spare?

[@Jason-Samko]

because them I have to buy 5 tires again next time. If i dont touch the spare i only need to buy 4 next time. never understood why some suggest rotating the spare. the diameter change between new and half worn is minimal and doesn't matter. so in my mind its just a waste of money to put the spare into the rotation.

[@pmb1311]

At 13,600 miles and 2/32", and assuming linear wear, at 54,400 miles, you should have 8/32' remaining, or about half of the tread.

[@Jason-Samko]

@pmb1311 over 20k on them now and I will have to measure soon but not looking good. I will not be buying these again

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

I wish the toyo had thicker sidewall tread to resist sharp rocks. For an AT check out the Mickey Thompson Baja boss all-terrain. If you look at an actual picture of them in real life with the sun shining on them they are insane awesome and quiet and good tread life

[@Jason-Samko]

Love the MT Bajas! only down side is they wear fast. But thats what makes them an excellent tire. the softer sticky duramoeter.

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

@@Jason-Samko yeah the Baja boss Mt 25,000 but the Baja boss all-terrain is rated for like 55,000 I think.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@ronaldrrootiii6040 I meant Mt as in mickey Thompson. By buddy put mickey bajas all terrains on his super duty and at 30k they are looking very thin. Could be because it's a diesel super duty.

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

@@Jason-Samko oh yeah totally probably would have been better off with the Baja EXP

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

So far I like these toyo I had to get them on my Land Rover because they are the only 19 inch outside of DuraTrac so I figured I would try them out. My other rig on 16s easier to shop for lol

[@Ilovecomedy7]

How is the road noise when you are driving at 70 mph on freeway ?

[@Jason-Samko]

I have a driving Pov impressions video that I published last week that takes you along with me so you can see it at 80mph on the highway

[@Ilovecomedy7]

@@Jason-Samko Thanks for the info!

[@Jason-Samko]

@@Ilovecomedy7 very welcome

[@steveehh4567]

Did you order the metric P tires? Those only have 13/32 vs the LT has close 16/32 thread depth. I had both and noticed the difference. They do wonders on snow and ice and surprised me on 4x4 trails for an A/T.

[@Jason-Samko]

These are actual 35x11.50x17. And according to toyos sight its 16.5/32 tread depth

[@crashdsnowman1]

You know if you got 13000mi out of 3/32" then it will be 65000 bald right? 50,000 miles with 3/32 left. you may be upset but tire makers don't give warranties based off when a tire is 50% worn...do like everyone else and sell them when they are 50% worn. BTW I used them on a 7000lb Dodge diesel and got over 50k on them.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@crashdsnowman1 10 sets of falken wildpeaks on 8 trucks and a suv. All of them were not half gone at 60k miles

[@crashdsnowman1]

@@Jason-Samko so you are saying those last 120,000 miles? looks like they should up their warranty and everyone would jump to buy those tires. I use to run BFG Krawlers when we were competing because they were the softest/sticky. Hard tires just don't have the traction that softer tires do. I guess if you spend 90% of the time running soft sand and mud hard tires will work.

[@Jason-Samko]

@crashdsnowman1 had 82k on the ones on my 2015 f150 and they still had good tread on it when I sold it. And yep 90% of my offroad is mud and sand. Tread depth is most important to me

[@crashdsnowman1]

@@Jason-Samko The Toyo tires I was talking about were on the haul truck we used to pull the trailer to the trails. Our off road rigs either ran BFG Krawlers(red label stickies) or Super Swampers depending on what we were doing. If you ever get to Colorado try "Independence", "Carnage Canyon", "21 road" or "Pinch Point"

[@Jason-Samko]

@@crashdsnowman1 thanks. Will do

[@blainehartley9157]

Falken comes with 18/32 tread toyo comes 16/32…..toyo has a soft “beak in” compound that will scare you on tread ware but they will even out….the “floatation” sizes like yours (not LT metric) do have a slightly softer compound compared to your other falkens….even with all that you should see 50k out of them on a jeep….the set of falkens I had wore extremely fast and got obnoxiously loud on a 2wd dodge 1500 that was a street queen….louder than a set of MT tires by 25k…..I gave them away and went back to Toyo/nitto

[@Jason-Samko]

Thanks for the info. Seeing 50k and being bald is not good for me. I need traction off road. Falkens would not even be half worn at 50. I can not wait to get rid of these tires I'm very disappointed, more and more everyday. Falkens here I come as soon as I burn these down with some of my summer big highway trips

[@55acoustic]

I will never understand the hype for the toyo. The one time I bought them for my ram. They would spin on wet grass. I hated them and just told my tire guy I would never buy them again. 😊

[@Jason-Samko]

@@55acoustic I'm not super impressed with them myself

[@txgreek3512]

This has got to be one of the dumbest Newbie reviews I’ve ever seen and extremely incorrect. Why would you ever purchase and use an AT Tire when 90% of your driving is in muddy trails, You should be running MT’s. Toyo MT’s should've been your first choice! In addition, ALL TRAILS SPIT ROCKS ON YOUR TRUCK BODY. People post some of the dumbest and unintelligent things online.

[@Jason-Samko]

I'm gonna leave this comment right here for everyone to enjoy. Thanks for commenting😂

[@markjones1918]

Had a set, they were crap. If all you do is highway , guess they ok.

[@Jason-Samko]

I will not buy these again either. They are quiet that's for sure. But tread life not what I want

[@Joystickoperator]

At4s are very heavy

[@Jason-Samko]

Can't wait to get rhem

[@wayne7805]

I really wanted to watch his video, but that lisp……😢

[@carvewell]

You are such a sad person for posting this comment