Are Mid Size Trucks A Smart Buy Compared To Full Size Or Even HD Trucks?

[@chrisgeorge-i5s]

Thanks!👌

[@Jason-Samko]

@@chrisgeorge-i5s thank you. Greatly appreciated!

[@davelendzyk]

All vehicles are too expensive ! I bought a midsize truck because it was the size I wanted and it suits my needs perfectly . It’s not as expensive as a full size . If I had a family , then I would have bought a full size pickup because it would be a better fit . A midsize pickup for me is the best option for me today

[@blj_1970]

Great comment and 100%

[@Blue-moon12]

Exactly the same as me

[@CharlesCurran-m9p]

I looked for an old style Ford Ranger for two years but low mileage rust free examples were selling for as much as a full sized F-150.

[@jordanimatedstreaming]

I'm a proponent of this logic. The compacts of today are the size of midsize cars of the past. The mid size truck today is almost as big as the full size trucks of the past. When you keep in mind old cars you've lived with in the past and look at it from that perspective then you can see it as more of a lateral move than a downgrade.

[@Jason-Samko]

@davelendzyk agree 100%. And love all the additional comments on this comment. Sure is nice to see people think with their head and respond well. Was refreshing to read how people responded to this comment

[@paulbritton1436]

Thomas Sowell's quote, "There are no solutions. There are only trade-offs,"

[@fredsausage8794]

Fred Sausage quote; Time has little to do with infinity and jelly donuts.........😏

[@toddschultzandkaysar3530]

If your happy, im happy. And the two door jeeps are the best vehicles to park in a parking lot ever !😂

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

Drove a Ram 1500 with a Hemi for several years, traded it on my Gladiator which fits my lifestyle perfectly. The Gladiator drives just as nice, is more capable in Ohio snow, occasional off road, and gets 2-3 more MPG’s. The 3.6 runs great with plenty of power. Do miss the sweet sound of the Hemi, but for myself who just tows/ hauls occasionally it’s the perfect truck.

[@Jason-Samko]

2 of my favorite trucks! Love the rams, love the gladiator

[@danielproulx7288]

I traded a F150 for a GMC Canyon AT4 and one of the reasons was I didn't need a full size truck anymore. The only one using the back seat is my pitbull and the truck dose everything I need a truck to do, it's easy to park and fits in my garage. I also like the fact you can get all the luxury of a full size truck in a midsize truck now. The funny thing is midsize trucks are approaching the size of full size trucks from the 80's. I am happy with my new truck.

[@Jason-Samko]

Love the at4 canyon

[@65armadillo]

Any reason/reasons why you went to the gmc canyon and not the ford ranger?

[@danielproulx7288]

@@65armadillo Yes. The GMC was a nicer truck. I preferred the interior better, you could get a sunroof ( not available on Ranger) and I just liked the overall looks better, of course thats subjective. Also when I drove them both I preferred the GM 2.7 over the Ford 2.4. I am really pleased with the truck.

[@LyleBoyd-w1j]

Well said again Jason, The Canyon AT4 I have mentioned is more then enough for what I need. Yes I could have bought a Colorado for less but have always liked GMCs better. Why people think they should only cost $30,000 Iis beyond me, same interior basically, engine, drive train etc. as full size trucks.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@LyleBoyd-w1j agree

[@D41Michigan]

I don't think midsize trucks are a rip off. They offer at least 80% of the capability of a full size in regards to towing and cargo capacity. They offer better MPGs too and are often more maneuverable in tighter spaces. Full sizes have their place, especially for those who need the capability. They can be more comfortable on long drives too and they offer V8s. But the good thing about it is, we can choose what we want. I'll never rag on someone for owning a full size because that's what they want...just as I want a midsize. They are perfect for me.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@D41Michigan well said

[@brianosterman456]

Issue to me is that the midsize trucks are the size of my old f150 it’s crazy

[@Jason-Samko]

@brianosterman456 funny thing I bey half of the people in the comments complain about nidsize is too small are driving older full size trucks that are basically the same size as a current midsize😂

[@vcash1112]

I got a Super cab F150 with a 6 1/2 ‘ bed so I can fit a 6’foot ladder in it. Throw a camper shell on it and you can actually sleep in it. What I don’t understand is a full size truck with a small bed, 😂!

[@bradbradshaw-i4n]

i bought a toyota tacoma 4 years ago. it's a 2021 and it cost me 24,600 taxes included. the world has gone nuts since then.

[@sabastian4858]

Agree. Now they want 55k for that same truck but with a four banger and tons of problems. This guy sounds like a new car salesman.

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

I wish we could have brand new affordable compact trucks like the 90s Toyota Pickups and Mitsubishi Mighty Max. Single cab, long bed, 5 speed manual transmission, that is all I need. Big trucks exist for those that need it, but small compact trucks don't exist anymore and I am sure they would be selling out like crazy if they were to manufacturer and sell those again.

[@dutchboyoutdoors6702]

I used to drive a midsize for work and it was absolutely perfect, but that was a company truck and I didn’t really care as far as personal vehicle or family and work. It’s gotta be full size less than my situation in HD truck. It’s really my best option but the market is just crazy right nowtoo crazy in fact insane

[@user-lt8ld4lf9e]

I'm a DIY guy, and a hunter. I don't need to haul anything bigger than a 4 wheeler. I don't need to put anything bigger than a few sheets of plywood or maybe a freestanding and a deer in the bed. A full size truck is way over kill for someone like me. I could get away with something as small as a ford maverick but I don't trust their reliability. So I bought a frontier. It's actually more truck than I need but I feel better knowing it is a little more than I need but still reliable, rugged, and durable. I don't do any real off roading. Worst my truck might see is occasionally an old game lands parking lot or a rough private road.

[@Jason-Samko]

Perfect

[@user-lt8ld4lf9e]

@Jason-Samko love your content Jason. These truck manufacturers need to start offering people what they want and not what they want to sell. Rugged, reliable, and affordable trucks. I remember back in the 90's you could get a pretty well equipped f150 xlt for $25-$30K. With the economy and interest rates the way they are, I don't understand who is buying these $60K+ trucks.

[@duanehamdorf2228]

Did you get a king cab ? I'm thinking of getting one. 👍

[@user-lt8ld4lf9e]

@duanehamdorf2228 i actually got the crew cab, but my dad bought a king cab a few days after I got mine. The king cab had more extras and was a new left over. It was a few thousand more than I wanted to spend. Mine was a lease vehicle with 8000 miles on it. I'd have been perfectly happy with the king cab. But I try to keep to a budget and $4K too much is $4K too much

[@Bufford2024]

Small man walks into tailor. "I wan't a new suit. How much for a small , medium and big? TAILOR: "Same price. It is the time and attention to detail. So same price". Little Dude: " OK. I will take the large size...then. More material ... so a better deal." TAILOR: OK. Your choice. But no refunds. Same with buyers logic. Best deal? Buy what fits you. 😮

[@paulgordo7505]

Good information, for many as well as me, a midsized truck is sufficient!

[@Jason-Samko]

@paulgordo7505 glad you enjoyed it

[@danejohnson8430]

Mid-size is my bag. It fits perfectly in my garage. My tasks are not too big so it works in that category as well. It’s just me myself and I at this time so again the midsize does a great job doing the basic things for me. I like my midsize 23 Tacoma because it will last for sometime and I enjoy eyeballing new trucks but unfortunately I cannot keep buying new trucks even though I can but I won’t. So longevity is my goal.

[@Jason-Samko]

3rd gen taco is one of the last long term trucks made.

[@davidbrieske]

Last week I just traded my wife’s 2022 Ford Bronco Sport for a 2024 Ford Ranger XLT w/ the FX4 package. Same monthly payment. Sticker was 48K+ and I got it for 44k. Like you been saying Jason, they need to move the metal! Merry Christmas to you and yours! 🎄

[@Jason-Samko]

Congratulations on your awesome new truck. Merry Christmas to you and your family

[@sabastian4858]

You added two more years to your payoff. You'll pay a lot more in the long run You just don't realize it yet. No mid-sized truck is worth 44K anyways. You got ripped off in my opinion.

[@jordanimatedstreaming]

The whole mid size segment has great resale value. I'm not the biggest Jeep fan but I wouldn't be surprised if the Gladiator is a future classic. People aren't spending like it's 2020 anymore. Imagine if they stopped selling it soon. It would go down in history as a midsize truck sold into a stagnate auto market. With gas particulate filters and auto stop start mandates etc. coming in the future these Jeeps might hold their value well into the future.

[@Jason-Samko]

Excellent points

[@spyder000069]

Question you have to ask: Is the truck too expensive or is your wage too low? It will match up once / if wages go up. However, you have a stalemate where customers want to pay pre-pandemic prices for product that manufacturing costs went up 30% or more and interest rates push that up more. Customers slow their purchasing and company produces less units to match demand and layoff workers. Less units means less manufacturing buying power and less negotiating room. Its a cause / effect situation and I don't expect dramatic changes in vehicle pricing. You have to accept your dollar does not stetch as far and so you have to instead focus on wage.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@spyder000069 excellent points

[@stevehenderson2571]

I bought a midsize truck Honda Ridgeline Sport instead of buying a 1500 GMC Sierra SLE-1 Crew Cab 5.3 and saved >$26,000. GMC priced themselves outa my league after being a devout customer for 29 yrs. What I bought fits my needs. Do I like it? Not really but it works and came down to common sense economics.

[@paulbritton1436]

the value retention is eye opening

[@Ogdin3]

I liked my midsized trucks, had a 2019 Ridgeline and a Diesel Colorado. Just couldn't fit all my work stuff in it so now i have a 3/4 ton.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@Ogdin3 love midsize and love the hds. They are all id buy personally

[@jeffreybischoff6772]

I'm contemplating a midsized pick up (and SUV, Passport) truck, a Honda Ridgeline. Midsized, V6, AWD, just fine for me. I'm currently in a 2012 Honda CRV. So whether I get a pick up, or SUV, it's still a bigger, and probably more capable vehicle, than what I have now; if I even bother, because my current vehicle is paid off/with title. Honda has been good to me.

[@Jason-Samko]

Perfect

[@franciscochavez1010]

Having one teenage kid and dogs I wouldn’t go back to a mid size. I’ve had heavy duties and a Toyota Tacoma in 2020. Switched to a Silverado trail boss now. The Tacoma was way too small. I like the idea of them more than driving them. The trial boss is roomy and a good truck. Perfect size.

[@Jason-Samko]

Agree. Fullsize wins for family use.

[@curtshelp6170]

If you max out your wallet on a mid size you're spending $65K. Full size $120K and HD about the same. If you're spending the max on any class you're buying a costume to make yourself look wealthy or a hardcore. Most of us would be equally well served with a base 4x4 which the Colorado can be had in the low $30K range. Full size upper $40K range and the HDs can be had in the mid $50K range. Buy what you need instead of buying a badge.

[@petero5861]

I’d love to have a full size truck. But for my day to day and parking situation full size is out. My only option is mid size pick up for now.

[@PrepperDawg]

Depends on how you use a truck. It's just the two of us here and we don't tow anything, so no need for a full-size. Plus, mid-size is so much easier to park, get in the garage and get in and out of tight places, especially off-road.

[@Jason-Samko]

agree 100%

[@brolyx100]

Good video! Lately I’ve been contemplating if I made a mistake buying a Tacoma vs a Tundra. And honestly, after I do the pros and cons the only con that really bothers me is the backroom seats for my family Which I can somewhat live with since we have a Camry. It’s still get annoying though when we have to take the Tacoma on a long road trip with the entire family. But we all knew of this trade off when we bought it. I also just don’t have the space for a full size truck. Doesn’t fit my garage. Doesn’t even fully fit my 10ftx20 ft car port. Maneuverability is nicer on the midsize truck . The other problem like you mention is pricing. The SR5 Tundra was 16k more than the SR5 Tacoma. When you add the higher insurance cost as well I think midsize was the way to go. I just do light hauling for my construction job anyhow. No towing. The Maverick was nice value proposition. But that truck has gone up by 7k if I’m not mistaken. It would be nicer to have options in that small truck segment as well with current prices.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@brolyx100 all rock solid points and agree 100%

[@dwightking6992]

LOL, I can't remember the last time I seen a newer full size truck with an 8' bed!! Another Pro for Mid-Size truck is you get a little better MPG!!

[@tomcat6933]

I like that red gladiator

[@Jason-Samko]

@tomcat6933 all gladiators are awesome

[@porfiriolopezjr9192]

Love your channel i follow it very close i was thinking you should put my 23 trail boss Colorado next to your zr2 to make a video comparison i will love it you can make it happen sincerely p.lopez I live in Deltona fl of i 4 let me know if you interested thanks

[@Jason-Samko]

Thanks! Actually just did that video comparing the zr2 and the trailboss right next to each other a couple weeks ago. Was a great video

[@germanjimenez5968]

When my kids were young, I was involved in their school activities and sport. I had and still own a full-size truck. It was perfect. I used it for everything, eg, traveling, off-road, and long trips. The full-size truck was awesome. Now that my kids are grown up, I no longer need a full-size truck. So, I am downsizing to a midsized truck. It's only my wife and I. In my opinion, depending on the trims, I believe the midsized trucks' prices are reasonable. It all depends on your needs. In my opinion, the less your needs, the lower the trim and the lower the price. The higher your needs, the higher the trim and the higher the price. It goes the same for a full-size truck, but it's a bit pricey than the midsized truck. I believe the price for the midsized truck is reasonable. Granted, you need to take into consideration the brand. For example, if a Tacoma equivalent to the Frontier Pro4x is more pricey, you have a choice: Tacoma that is equivalent to your needs as the Frontier and the Tacoma is more expensive than the Frontier, I will consider the Frontier. The resale value of the Tacoma might be greater than the Frontier, but the Frontier will still have a reasonable resale. I would choose the Frontier. My opinion.

[@Jason-Samko]

Excellent points. Very well said

[@fredsausage8794]

The Gladiator has plenty of comfortable rear seating.... that's a plus compared to other midsize, including my Tacoma. I've had full size many brands, many models, now I have no need for a large truck anymore, doing well with a midsize. And easy to sneak into a parking spot at Home Depot lickity split..............

[@Jason-Samko]

Agree on all points

[@MickeyCh00]

What everyone saying that trucks are too expensive forgets is that the UAW just got a super contract with the big three. Raises are 25% over 4 1/2 years, with 11% immediately. Production workers will get $42/hour by 2028; skilled workers $50/hour. So prices go up as wages go up. How many of the complainers get that kind of salary? I just sold my 2016 Chevy, with 117K miles for $20,000 cash and bought a new Colorado. Full size was fine for a long time, but no longer. 🙋‍♂

[@Ryan-yi5ro]

Production cost is minimal and doesn't justify prices doubling and even tripling. 🤦🏻

[@ironthumb3048]

Japanese trucks are built with non union labor, and they aren't any cheaper .

[@jmanultra]

You don’t see the manufacturers charging you less money for their vehicles made in Mexico, do you?

[@rocinblues]

I'm seeing new RAM 1500 w/ 5.7l 24's on Autotrader for up to 30% off. No one could complain about those prices, YE blow out.

[@KathyHarris-v5u]

Size matters, just depends on what your needs are and your budget. It’s the economy, it’s s bad right now, rates are high. Don’t impulse buy and do your research,have fun and enjoy life 😊

[@JimThompson-i3u]

If I buy a truck it will most likely be a mid-sized truck. For the few times I would need the bed for hauling or when I would need to tow something I would be good. Everyday things like parking lots, drive-thrus, backing up, parking garages, etc. A full size behemoth is a pain. It really depends on the size of your family or if you're single, and what your use case happens to be.

[@Jason-Samko]

100% agree and all great points.

[@traebishop3846]

I feel like I say this so much in the comments on this channel that it's getting worn out, but, it depends on you, the individual, and what you are using it for. If all you need is an off roader and something that can tow lighter trailers, then you can probably get by with a mid sized truck. If you want to be able to do all the previous states things, but need extra room to haul your family than a full sized truck is right for you. If you are like me, and need a family hauler, an off roader, a wood hauler, and need to be able to haul heavy trailers, then maybe an HD is better for you. Do what's best for you and your situation, and forget about what other people think of what you do with your money. It's yours after all.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@traebishop3846 very true and great points

[@Avrageoutdoorguy]

Prices are just way too high. They build a cheaper product and sell it for a fortune

[@tonymontana3742]

You can justify it all you want, I'm not writing a check for one.

[@Jason-Samko]

I don't have to justify it. I've owned them all. Mid, full, and HD. Only thing I'd buy today is mid or HD. I do justify it with my checks I write

[@tacomafan5186]

All good points!

[@Jason-Samko]

@@tacomafan5186 thanks

[@barrydworak]

I don't want a full size truck around town. I don't even want a crew cab because I want a full length bed. If I lived on a ranch, I'd get a big truck because it wouldn't be a problem to park it or drive around.

[@Jason-Samko]

Great points

[@germanjimenez5968]

Good presentation

[@Jason-Samko]

Thanks

[@jmanultra]

Mid size is good enough for me. I don’t think people that complain about prices have been paying attention. Vehicle prices have gone up considerably since they bought their last truck in 2002.

[@Jason-Samko]

Agree 100% and midsize hold better value and cost less to buy saving significant money on both ends

[@KevinEdge81]

People seem to use their midsize trucks more for truck purposes then those that have full-size trucks (except for those that have a business). There are a lot of midsize trucks up here outfitted with caps, racks, rooftop tents and seem to always be hauling something. The only thing full-size trucks are loaded up with… are people! I’ve always thought that if your priority is hauling people more so than gear or anything else… then maybe you don’t need a truck! Just get an SUV. I also don’t know the last time I saw an 8’ bed on a truck. And honestly, 6’ beds are almost becoming rare as well. Most people that opt for a full-size truck, get the crew cab with a 5.5’ bed!! It’s a status symbol around here. Bigger trucks = bigger money!

[@Jason-Samko]

We see alot of status symbol ones here too. Always laugh when I see a full size or HD truck with mud tires and the undercarriage has not a spec of dirt on it. My wife gets mad at me when we walk thru a parking lot and I see one of those trucks. I absolutely have to walk close and bend down and look under it. 90% I'm right

[@jasonabadie3340]

I hope my f150 I just bought is worth 62% after 5 years. I’ll be happy

[@rj-me3fh]

I prefer regular cab trucks and I always have a difficult time finding one on the lots! What up?

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

Americans have opted to using them as family vehicles rather than using the bed. I prefer single cab and long bed, if I need to move my family, I'll use a mini van.

[@johnmorales9584]

I feel there is not enough price difference to justify a midsize truck unless smaller size is the main concern. Full size trucks have more room, capability, better engines, and have the ability to opt for diesel engines which get better fuel economy than midsize trucks. Also, there is no real difference in MPG between the trucks. Having been in both midsize trucks to HD trucks, fullsize trucks are a no brainer. If the 10k difference in price is too much more to pay for a full size truck, you problably really couldnt afford the midsize truck in the first place.

[@KathyHarris-v5u]

Heard gm is having lifter problems on their v8’s and the 2.4 turbo and the 3.0 duramax is the way to go. I think cylinder deactivation is a big no no, especially in trucks 😮😮

[@sabastian4858]

3.0 are designed obsolescent motors. Garbage compared to the v8 duramax and they're having problems too.

[@namtran512]

If you don't tow heavy equipment or need massive payload, the midsize is the play 99.9% of the time. The only time you really need full size is if you have a family or actually tow/haul heavy stuff.

[@Jason-Samko]

Agree

[@namtran512]

@ people also forget that the midsize today is basically full size of 10 years ago

[@wilford71ify]

Midsize are the best for city dwellers. Parking a half ton or hd is tough in a compact world.

[@Jason-Samko]

@@wilford71ify definitely easier to part a midsize

[@kennethvance8896]

Not only less expensive. Midsize is the same size as trucld from the 2000s.

[@rodneyhirsch2340]

I like gladiators. All are priced closely. My son in Alaska has had jeeps. New ones no problems. Older one broke too much, was cheaper to buy new. Mechanics on KZbin hate anything jeep. But I see a lot, neighbors, not broken down. So??

[@Jason-Samko]

Yep gladiator is outstanding as is the pentistar. I put my life on it bringing me out of the swamps 20 miles deep weekly. If I thought there was a more reliable vehicle I'd be driving it

[@ramie-uz9xi]

Bring back the HILUX . The S-10. The old Hardbody Nissan . In actuality a midsize truck is a lot better suited for alot of people . Personal experience. I bought a brand new 3500 Silverado W/T Dually in 2015 , $31,000 after discounts . I sold it this past year with 70,000 miles on it for $30,000 .

[@Jason-Samko]

Agree midsize is awesome and HD is awesome. I won't ever buy a full size. No value. Mid or HD for me

[@ramie-uz9xi]

@ the best value isn’t always convenience. Believe it or not a work trim holds better value in my experience . Also V-8 , standard cab short bed . Don’t ask me why . But if you try to find a used V-8 , standard cab , short bed ? They retain more of their original sticker price especially as they age . They aren’t as convenient as a 4 door . By no stretch of the imagination.. as for the turbo 🤨.It’s hard to imagine an American brand building value into anything these days . #EPASUX. It costs a lot of money to build a turbo gasoline engine properly . Volvo figured it out back in the 80s . And that’s why they are /were so damn expensive. Once they spend the money on the proper internals . As well as how to cool them properly. The other looming issue will be a proper transmission to handle that massive torque curve . They may have it all worked out in the next ten years

[@DowntownCharlieBrown-w5c]

A big boy truck rides a lot nicer and is only about 5 inches wider not that big of a deal to park especially with power folding mirrors. 10k more the full size is a no brainer.

[@Jason-Samko]

For some maybe. I've owned 40 new trucks in my life midsize, HD, and full size. I promise each one has pros and cons. And I would not buy a fullsize today. Midsize is what I need to use offroad. Full size won't go there. And if I'm gonna buy a fullsize I'd skip it and go right to the HD and get more truck for less money.

[@sabastian4858]

Those Gladiators shouldnt be a penny over 30k. 2016 Ram 2500 HD Cummings, loaded Limited was 48k. Now they are 100k and they are junk. Horrible prices, you're up in the night. Few peoples paycheck has gone up 100%+?

[@371kenny]

I used to need a full sized truck. Until I bought a trailer. Now the trailer gets beat up not my truck bed.

[@Jason-Samko]

Trailers sure are handy

[@ronaldspins]

Toyota built a One Ton Compact truck once

[@deantrainr]

If it wasn’t for the garage I have, I definitely would’ve bought a full size truck instead of a mid-sized truck. Hands down, a waste of money purchasing a mid-sized truck based on for just a bit more money, you can have the best of both worlds buy buying a full size truck.🤷‍♂️😳

[@Jason-Samko]

Depends on your needs and wants.

[@robg1413]

Why do you say Jeep deals better than anybody. They refuse to budge on their posted prices. If they were dealing so well, they wouldn't have vehicles sitting on the lots 280+days.

[@Jason-Samko]

Find a different dealership. Jeep deals are outstanding

[@paulstanley3265]

Lol great job

[@Joshuaroth-ui3gw]

Great video so true people want everything for 30k with all this new tech go back to the Stone Age!!

[@BrewReview]

No, they’re not. They’re closer to 50 fully loaded and out the door rather than the 65-75 for basically a base level full size. Add to that initial cost savings, not many people really need a full size anyhow. Difficult to park, easy to hit and more expensive to insure. And this whole “holding value” nonsense is nonsense anyway. Unless you’re hopping from truck to truck every two to three years, you really should be doing what we’ve all been doing forever - buying something you need until it outlives its usefulness or until it does, THEN buy another vehicle. Looking at depreciating assets and saying “oh, that’s not going to hold value” is not the way one should approach buying a freaking vehicle of all things.

[@Drake-b6i]

This guy must be getting paid by the big three .!! Not everyone thinks the best of these trucks bro, this either has a hard on for these trucks or he’s definitely getting money for his endorsements .!!

[@Jason-Samko]

@@Drake-b6i must be the former. Cause ain't nobody paying me

[@robertokray3217]

I drove a full size for decades. I had a midsize 30+ years ago and also several years ago. Went back to full size after that one a few years ago. I would never go back. They are all a ripoff. Stop pretending they aren't.

[@angoor101]

Jason, where were you a few years ago when I was in car lot business. Nobody can sell a bunch of overpriced pile of metal for greedy dealers, like you can.

[@roger3786]

... 90% of people who buy trucks don't even use it for "truck" things - ego driven economy ...

[@scr6272]

All new trucks re EQUALLY overpriced, it truly is ridiculous. But if you want one, pick one that you like or can afford. And long beds (8ft) on mid-sized trucks are just plain dumb. If you want an 8ft bed, buy a full size truck

[@Jason-Samko]

An 8 foot bed a midsize sure would look funny too

[@angoor101]

“Junk junk junk”.

[@yardboy3955]

Yes mid size trucks are a ripoff.

[@grizzly311tr]

maybe, i like my 24 frontier. i realize i could have gotten a similar trim titan for maybe 6-7k more, or even a slightly lower trim f150 5.0 v8 for 10k more... but then i have to deal with cylinder deactivation and the inevitable long term repairs that come with it. v8 noises almost make it worth it though

[@jasonabadie3340]

Sad that midsize trucks don’t get better gas mileage. My V8 F150 gets better fuel economy than my brother in laws Tacoma turbo 4 banger.

[@Bbbbbbbbbbxxxx]

Nothing is a great buy right now. Let those overpriced 4 bangers rot. I bought a Nissan frontier pro4x 3.8 V-6 for 31 k in 2020 and four years later magically they're priced at 50 k. A 4x4 midsize truck with leather should be 33- 38 k max. A full size v-8 of the same should be 40-45k max.

[@grumpynomad3551]

Those are city guy trucks. Or man bun transporters. No real men buy them.

[@chrisfrieboes4841]

Sounds like somebody can't afford a full size truck