Toyota Connected Services Renewal Notice For My Toyota Tundra, No Thanks (Should Be Free!)

[@imountainmedia]

Losing the remote start function on the key fob is absolutely BS. Toyota will piss off a lot of people with that move!

[@smartfellanotafartsmella6557]

I just found out my wife’s Toyota did this. We will never buy another Toyota and will not be paying for this service! Unbelievable how greedy corporations have become. And unbelievable that any consumers pay for these. Just buy a vehicle from a company that doesn’t practice this much greed. I think toyota will lose a lot of repeat customers because of this. They definitely lost one

[@imxploring]

Total scam that Toyota disables the remote start feature from the key fob.... but then again I always hated that the truck turns off when you've used remote start and you open the door!

[@chinhvan6560]

TundraDude! Thanks for video. Paying a monthly subscription to remote start your $55k truck is absolutely ludicrous! However small the fee. Please convey this to your Toyota headquarter contacts. Thanks 😉

[@chadkrause6574]

They’re taking remote start away from the key!? BULLSHIT! What is Toyota thinking ????

[@walterbeland5233]

Key fob remote start should work without paying for it, C’mon Toyota, that’s not good.

[@moiihrndz]

it's a glitch, so I've read toyota wants to keep the keyfob start but it's a glitch for it not working and doesnt have an ETA on the fix

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

Remote start is useless anyway. You have to remember to leave the defrost on. Even if it turns on automatically for the front, you still have to turn on the rear defrost and wait.

[@walterbeland5233]

@@user-tb7rn1il3q true, but when you get in the cab is warm enough to defrost the windows in a minute.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

@@walterbeland5233 The engine doesn’t warm up much at idle. You have to drive it under load or bring the RPMs up to 1500 at idle.

[@walterbeland5233]

@@user-tb7rn1il3q it’s enough for me, I think it may be a bigger issue to those further north, I’m in Jersey and for the most part it’s usually frost, not ice. Enjoy the ride.

[@vertablue3803]

The remote start was a feature listed as part of purchase, sounds like a great class action lawsuit. Plus all the bad press to go along with!

[@roadeomagic]

I just got my 1794 truck in December and it really sucks that you lose the remote start feature on the key fob if you don't renew. I have used both up here in the Poconos and I like them, but to take them BOTH AWAY??? Not cool Toyota.

[@mixedbreed8196]

The only thing I would miss is the remote start, seeing if my doors are locked and navigation. But definitely agree that it should be free and I will not be paying for it when mine runs out.

[@basian99]

If enough people refuse to pay for these services then Toyota may wise up and keep the remote start feature intact regardless of subscription. If they don’t, out of principle I’ll simply put in an aftermarket one and Toyota can KMA

[@seagullsbtn]

Never even renewed xM radio. Another waste of $$$$. Don’t drive enough see the value

[@StonecoldRepublic]

they had me set up all that at the dealer before i left. after a couple of days and seeing it track every move i made in my truck i deleted my truck from the app. i dont want them knowing how i drive or anything else.

[@garychannell4663]

You think you disconnected but the car is still tracking every move you make and probably will be used against you when it comes to warranty claims or worse case should you become involved in an accident by the other person’s attorney. Yes we are screwed!

[@americarocks3194]

Won’t work after expired. My dealer told me when buying it would start without subscription now they are putting in aftermarket starter for free. Seems like a lot of confusion and poor training at the dealer level.

[@michaelramirez2706]

Safety connect is the only thing that I may renew. I’ve trained my kids to hit the SOS button if anything should happen. Hopefully it works if we ever need it.

[@angryderf3020]

Toyota Remote Service and key fob are both big misses on Toyota’s part. Remote start from the fob being disabled if you don’t pay $8/mo is a joke. My key fob function and range both suck.

[@christophermoyns4412]

I received the notification few months ago. I purchased my 2020 in November 2019. My key fob still works. I did not renew.

[@TheNorthenLight]

all you need Compustar remote starter u can survive without other stuffs.

[@jeffw6894]

Can someone please confirm that you can't use your key fob to start your truck if you don't pay for the app? That's a blatant rip off if true, and possibly able to be worked around?

[@bobwinters2885]

I purchased my 2020 platinum in Nov 2019. I got that same letter recently and did just renew the connected services (annual). I don't like paying for what I feel should be included with the vehicle, but I do like and use the remote start occasionally. The other services, nah don't need. Toyota did extend my services for two extra months having notified me via email, so you may get the same.

[@philiptarnaski1667]

Congratulations on the 25K 👍 but I also will not pay for those services 👎 and I don’t want anyone tracking me ! Thanks

[@joejr9653]

I got my letter a bit ago. I'm losing all my stuff next month. I'm not paying extra for any of that.

[@fozkul71]

Nowadays, technology has developed a lot. car manufacturers should now standardize some functions. such as blind spot monitor, remote start, sos system, parking sensors, cruise control etc. These things are important things that both make life easier and in terms of security.

[@midengn5478]

I use the remote start and door lock/unlock through the app all the time so I guess I’ll pay for it. I pay for XM as well and a big monthly payment so what the hell. Live it up.

[@Jhraxlin]

It is that attitude that makes companies think this is okay.

[@Kittycat822]

I renewed the XM and then realized I can’t put it on other divorces so I went to cancel or find out why from XM. I can’t get through to them..so I’ll cancel via my credit card and just do Apple play.

[@caseybunch6843]

I too bought my 2020 Limited last March.. I'd decided to keep the Remote Connect. My truck sits most of the time but being able to check on it when I'm working. Or starting the truck when it's cold..I often forget to lock it, so that has come in handy. All the other stuff isn't necessarily with having a smart phone.

[@PeopleHealthTec]

7:20 lose remote start from the keyfob also

[@ruckinehround6965]

The key fob still works but the rest don’t. In Canada mine stopped after 3 months.

[@bonou21941]

Are you sure you loose the fob start?? I still have the ability to do it and I don't have the app feature anymore

[@rider14mcd63]

Thanks

[@wallacewillard7131]

Yeah 2020 purchase, dealer said i had remote start, never said it was temporary...will not be buying another Toyota

[@Callmebigwilly]

Literally found this app and service today and linked my new 2021 TRD Pro to it. Started and unlocked my truck from the app. Said to myself I should do a video on this on KZbin, hours later I turn on KZbin and TundraDude doing the video already😂. I haven’t received a letter or request to pay yet. not cool! And I’ve never had to remote start my truck since I don’t live where it gets really cold. $8 bucks for this, $12 for Netflix, $10 for Imusic, $14 for Disney plus... crap all adds up and high tech sucking our pockets dry while Uncle Sam takes his share too.

[@TheGrainSideUp]

I am conflicted. I bought a 2021 and the dealer told me that it will work without continuing TC. Some guys over on a forum site said it will work. I just spoke to a guy with 21 Plat who said his remote start works and his vehicle is not even registered for TC. BUT, I will not pay for this app when it comes due just for remote start.

[@seandelong3752]

The only connective service I keep is satellite radio 📡

[@randalmorris2076]

Remote start and truck information is free in the Ford app. That part should be free. The other stuff is like OnStar on GM products. That is not needed this day with cell phones.

[@Antares_451]

My 2019 1794 is a lateeee model. I purchased 12-3-2019 and i don't have the remote connect etc because I don't have push to start. If I had it i would pay to continue those services.

[@1kruzer1]

I agree completely in-step with you on all of this Mark. I will not be renewing any of this, and loosing the fob remote start angers me. Very bad PR move on Toyota’s part.

[@travel4414]

I have the 2021 Rav 4 Plug in Hybrid and this service is free in the UK for 10 years from purchase of the vehicle. Also you get a free years warranty with every service for 10 years or 100,000 miles.

[@josegarza8362]

I like the start from the phone lol especially in winter time

[@Mill72]

Remote start sucks on the Tundra. Shutoffs when unlocking the door.

[@Duke93720]

This is thier safety feature. Making sure the driver has a key to operate the vehicle.

[@profitpurpose]

All I got from the app for my 2023 Gr86 Manual was remote lock and unlock(remote start disabled due to safety). I laughed so hard when they asked me 80 dollars to continue using the feature after 1 year.

[@token4874]

I have wifi connect $15/mo thru AT&T and Sirius XM satellite radio. As silly as it sounds, my kids use it to stream movies/videos & play Pokémon Go !! I get 22 GB's for the month. If more than that much is used, then it gets "throttled" down until the beginning of next month. Owner of 2021 Cavalry Blue TRD OFF-ROAD Limited. May see if the remote start is physically removed from keyfob when mine expires.

[@Imtired_AF]

I pay only in summer so i can get the a/c going before i walk out the door its way worth it to me but other months i dont have it

[@BPJac]

FYI the remote start using the keyfob keeps working after you stop connected services. I use mine a lot and my subscription ended months ago.

[@Denali_Rebel]

I heard someone say about the vehicle subscription services that if you can afford the vehicle and the payments then a $10 charge or whatever shouldn’t matter at all. I disagree.

[@negative7proxy]

Does the Dynamic Navigation just stop working completely at the end of the trial? Does it stop showing maps or does it stop the ability to search for places and give directions?

[@jeffw6894]

I'll buy an aftermarket remote starter before I'll ever pay $8 a month to remote start my truck.

[@ironman1964]

They still have remote start through the key fob without paying the $8

[@ironman1964]

ooops maybe not

[@jskaggs8188]

I have no need for any off the connected services not even remote start as I live in California where winter is mild.

[@KayvonL.]

Thank you for taking the time to film and uploading!! I get NEW INFO, every time you upload an episode.... very valuable in my eyes!! Can’t wait to upload a picture of the 2022 Tundra that I WILL be getting....

[@jeremyandsusanhogan9220]

The Toyota brochure states that the remote fob should work for 3 years without getting a subscription. My stopped as soon as remote connect stopped..... I talked to Toyota last week they still haven’t gotten back to me yet.

[@bradleypollack5658]

They should do like Volkswagen and have it for five years. $56,000 is Way too much not include that for at least 5 to 6 years.

[@user-rf1ze4wi4k]

This is precisely why I went from 2015 Tundra to 2020 F-150. These services are free on my Ford.

[@aprecision4013]

agreed it should be free, I will not paying for it. 2020 Tundra I bought last January I got an extra free month right now.

[@nelsonlinkousii5174]

I see a Class Action Lawsuit coming for the remote start on the Key Fob. That is Bull Crap!!! I own a 2019 and had Remote Start added by the dealer because in 2019 it was not an option. I was considering upgrading to the new 2022 Tundra, BUT with the crappy fuel economy of the twin turbo V6, I am not impressed. With the TFL Video showing only 18.4/MPG highway with the 2022 3.5 V6 and I get 18.1/MPG Highway with the awesome 5.7, why would I change. Toyota better stop and think about alienating its customer base, because that is exactly what they are doing. I am very disappointed.

[@andrewjackson8409]

I guess I'll have to renew the remote start function. Complete bs that the key fob is connected to that service! I need remote start

[@303MoTo]

They extended my service on my 2020 TRD Pro for 60 days. I did not pay for the service and so it was shut off a few weeks ago. It indeed does remove the ability to remote start from the keyfob, utter nonsense. I will replace the toyota remote start with Compustar for under $200. 1 price and done. Janky move by Toyota, removing the fob remote start. Boo! I won't be held hostage by reoccurring charges, no thank you!

[@AggiePhil]

Will that require you to carry a second key fob?

[@303MoTo]

@@AggiePhil - No, compustar can be mapped to your factory fob.

[@user-rf1ze4wi4k]

@@303MoTo I recommend also giving 12v solutions a look.

[@mrhollister8520]

1. WiFi hot spot, if I traveled extensively, this would be a cool feature especially for the dead spots in rural areas. 2. Remote Connect - I live in SoCal, this is useless for me. 3. Destination Assistance - From my vantage point, this is simply a matter of convenience. I grew up reading maps. 4. Navigation - My TRD has Apple CarPlay so a simple connect of the lightning charger cord fixes this. 5. SOS - I will tell Siri to get hot in emergent situations.

[@Duke93720]

The service is for the app only. If you have remote start as an option on your key fob it should continue to work.

[@johnyota131]

Losing the remote start?? Not cool! Be better Toyota!!

[@crazymonkey9611]

Congrats on hitting 25k. Love the content and I have no idea how you manage to keep it coming day after day.

[@leonardhartford9350]

Remote start from the fob quit working a couple weeks ago on my 2020 Pro right when I needed it most. Not a big surprise because the dealership told me this would happen after a year.

[@user-rf1ze4wi4k]

Free on my 2020 F-150.

[@rudythecuban1589]

This is just like On-Star, for $25.00 monthly my daughter’s Cadillac. However it’s great for her security and theft prevention. But weather you have the service or not her remote start is a function of the vehicle. Basically it’s an On-Star service with a different name.

[@joelgosselin3549]

Agreed. It's free with Ford so why should we pay for this? I find the App doesn't work well anyways. Connection issues.

[@mattthorson9110]

Aftermarket starters are cheaper and work better. I am a Toyota fan but with the prices they want for the new tundra, then to ask for more per month before any normal person pays off their loan is crazy. It has me really looking at other brands for my next truck

[@seumasmackinlay]

Sometimes I think the “Internet of things” has gone too far. The features which are functions of the vehicle should absolutely be included free of charge. Information services like WiFi, “On Star”, satellite radio, and in some cases GPS navigation are justifiable on a subscription basis. Otherwise, it’s just a dirty trick to make people pay for things which normally come standard on a key-fob remote. I certainly would not pay extra for them. 😡

[@butchhardy2762]

The only thing I'll miss is remote start in the winter. It will be a cold day in hell if they think I'll be paying for remote start.

[@earlpike3129]

Hi Mark, OnStar is $350.00 per year and Ford Sync is $60.00 per year. Chrysler UConnect is $180.00 per year. If I had a newer Tundra, I would pay the fees. That is just me. Toyota still has to pay for the monitoring infrastructure.

[@sputnee]

I pickup my Tundra Limited Nightshade Edition and I totally agree.

[@tmr8193]

Ford pass is actually free

[@robrie23]

Its nice that Remote Connect shows fuel and odometer but other than that, its slow. I use Compustar and DroneMobile instead.

[@Thebobino26]

I have a 2022 and I feel the same way. It should be free.

[@Gpaiva24]

Can’t speak for the 2020, but my 2019 with the old school key , if you hit the lock button 3x it starts the truck.

[@ulkesh78]

There's no way in hell these services are worth 8 bucks a month each. I was hoping it was more like 10 bucks a month for all of it. I could do that, no way I'm paying 24 bucks a month for it. The only one i even remotely use is the remote lock/unlock/start for the vehicle.

[@rickper]

I use the WiFi, I do a lot of work in my truck with a laptop and it’s way faster than my iPhone hotspot. I think I it’s $15 a month unlimited data I think I.

[@brianhall6349]

My understanding is that the key fob remote start will work for 10 years. Apparently, 2019 and up can start their vehicles with the key fob without the subscription up to 3 or 10 years based off the audio system that you have. Audio Plus, its 3 years free, after you need the subscription, and premium its 10 years, after you need the subscription.

[@seandelong3752]

Congratulations on 25 k Mark!👍

[@JRRR29-k1b]

Like most of is the only thing I’m going to miss is the remote start. Maybe I will have an aftermarket car starter installed.

[@manuelmartinez8246]

I just purchased the 2021TRD sport. And if I’m not mistaken some of services are included depending on the warranties you got for your vehicle, I got the platinum coverage. However it’s always good know.

[@patgour5603]

So you buy a new truck with a remote start, but then you can't use the remote start unless you pay their ransom? Did they disclose this to buyers before they take their hard earned money??

[@moiihrndz]

Hey, Just wanted to let everyone know that my "trial" for the Toyota app has expired. Along with it the remote start. Just and FYI when you're not subscribed to the app, remote start won't work even with the key fob.

[@avpr1c]

Agree disabling remote start on the key fob should be illegal. Could care less about the app stuff although driver score is funny... I’m averaging 96 but I drive like an old fart

[@AggiePhil]

Hey Mark. I pay for the WiFi hotspot cause it’s nice for the kids on trips. It’s $200/year for unlimited data and I don’t *think* the other fee-based services are required to get it (could be wrong though). For someone without kids, I probably wouldn’t recommend it because the data speed is actually slower than on your phone (4G vs. LTE). For that reason, I don’t let my phone connect to the hotspot-only the kids’ iPads. Hope that helps!

[@andyk2610]

When I bought my 2020 I was told that the key fab starting would work when the subscription ran out.

[@AggiePhil]

Remains to be seen. Some say yes, some say no.

[@bonou21941]

I love the remote start, but paying for it is a rip off. The remote start should be free,!

[@percky4]

Can the 2020 and 2021 tundra get a drone mobile remote/alarm device? I have that on my jeep Cherokee and I'm able to do all the Toyota remote connect do and plus I can track where my jeep is and what road its traveling on via my smart phone.

[@TheRoeshow0324]

Is there a video of someone showing the key fob doesn’t work after losing the remote connect? I thought the key fob will still work

[@Troystoy]

I agree with you Mark , all the services should be free as long as u own your truck and the original buyer imo, as much as we pay for these trucks why wouldn’t it be Toyota come on , that being said I might renew when time comes since I like some but not all the connected services ,and I plan on keeping my 2020 pro for a while since it will be paid for this year , that kinda helps my decision .Great vid Mark as always , stay safe out there !!

[@enriquebaquerizo2100]

What aftermarket remote start is recommended for the tundras I have a 2020 that has me upset already with factory remote start it has locked me out of using my vehicle a couple of times already because for some reason it does turn off when I opened doors stupid design any help out there????

[@Bruiser2117]

It seems whichever radio package you have, i.e. Audio+/premium, will affect how long your key fob will continue to work after the subscription ends.

[@mikek6792]

Mine will expire in October, will not renew because I don't use it. I never even signed up for the free wifi.

[@chezsachchez6772]

I just ordered my Tundra a week ago.That sucks an I will not be paying for any app in the truck....For the price of the truck all that should free

[@timr3236]

I read on the Toyota owner's website all this stuff uses 3G and will be discounted at the end of 2021.

[@dillsplace]

One of the big letdowns when I got my 2021. Cannot believe that they don't offer these services at no charge. I will say however, that the remote lock/start feature will not be much of a loss because it doesn't work worth a $hat. I can rarely get it to work on the first try when using the app. The key fob is not much better unless you're standing right next to the vehicle. Looks like after market remote is an up and coming upgrade!

[@david.westergard9959]

I don’t think I have a choice, there’s no WAY I’m losing the remote start up in Oh Canada 🇨🇦,, but for the other 2 options ya I’ll probably keep them too. One thing completely unrelated to this video,, is - On a platinum or 1794 edition, can we switch out the chrome door handles? I’m just concerned about the sensory button on the outside. If Sparksparts sells them it can probably be done 🤷‍♂️ what do you know about that?? I’ve seen video on HOW to,,, it’s just a matter of can we

[@benqsmith6871]

We have base model 2019. No Android auto only Apple car play just very basic. We got letter about ended subscription. We'll I'm not renewing it. Regular smartphone has better screen resolution and Bluetooth connect calls. Dad's car didn't even had stereo just tuner radio and we were more than happy. 😂.

[@chadkrause6574]

I would buy the app because 1) it’s useful here in Michigan because of the remote start and 2) remote start from key is hard. Seriously it takes me a few tries. And I can’t believe they’re going to take it away if you don’t pay. Literally a horrible customer service move. Hopefully you can pay by year

[@CoolInOlympia]

I do, however, pay for it for the remote start to warm up my car.

[@dudeman1455]

Never signed up for anything when I bought the truck, even though the salesperson was pushing pretty hard. Must make commission on getting people to sign up on the app allowing tracking. I don’t want anyone to be able to track me more than they already do with my smartphone. XM radio trial is enjoyable though. How much for ongoing?

[@dieseltu1035]

I just got a RAV4 . I tried numerous times to get the apps working. 3 trials are on and no go on remote start . Dealer hooked up my phone. The piece of crap apps don't do anything I want except screw up my screen Everytime I start my car. Got rid of the apps ,and blacked the screen , problem solved. They wouldn't get a subscription on something that don't work.. ever.

[@stuartmelvin8746]

Hey Tundra dude...great channel thank you. Just purchase my 2021 1794 in December. I just signed up for Toy connect. I'm doing the trail right now. I honestly don't believe it's worth the money. Remote services work sometimes. Most of the other services I don't use. The only thing I really like is the remote startup, however sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Can you recommend an auto start for us follower. Ps. I could never use my remote to start my truck.

[@highpro1394]

Not true. I go rid of all that crap but i can still remote start my truck with my key fob. I have a 2020 platinum and the remote start on the key fob works just fine.

[@user-rf1ze4wi4k]

Yes, for 3 years post subscription, then you're s.o.l - nothing but cash grab for Toyota

[@karlcimorelli5576]

I don't think it's necessary for all the stuff on the app it is nice to see your fuel and mileage but not at a price the locking and unlocking is nice again not for a price the starting is nice but I never had it before I guess I'm old school but I think like you for the price of the vehicle you should still have remote start on your fob without paying for it but I still love my tundra. Thanks for doing all your videos they are very helpful

[@samsammy6210]

Born analog, points, plugs, condenser, Holley 650 carb, tractor magneto, hand crank wrist breaker. King pins instead of ball joints.Old school. How the hell did we make it without cell phones. Btw still don’t do cell phones. And the best thing NO ONE could track us. Now I have a Tundra 2019. Our gps was a map, never said make a legal “U” turn. Wow 😜

[@chewiezzz]

I guess when my services expires, it's time to get an aftermarket key fob. No reoccurring charges!

[@patrickbello8130]

just renewed safety connect :(

[@tommyterryrosarich]

Have you renewed the Sirius Xm subscription?