Toyota Remote Start updated information on the Toyota remote connect system

[@Infiniteperspective1111]

In this Day and age and prices for vehicles there is absolutely zero excuses for a vehicle to not have remote start from the key fob the last forever.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

it uses the cloud to start the car and that cost money for the use of the signal

[@shaquandye4161]

I agree!!! Ridiculous!!!

[@yanblank1442]

I agree Toyota subscription is a bunch of bs extortion ridiculous

[@philliptatum2682]

Thank you so much for the service you are providing. This information is very much needed by Toyota owners with different model year vehicles. I own a 2019 Avalon Hybrid Limited Edition an just purchased a new 2021 Camry XLE Hybrid for my wife and both have the premium audio system with enhanced navigation & multi-media packages. Had no idea the timeframe for the connect services are different. You are providing a great service by for your customers & Toyota owners in general. Thanks again. I’ve subscribed with Bell 🛎. Thanks again… Phil Lebanon Kentucky

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

thank you so much

[@cindybeal]

This would have helped me so much if I would’ve come across your info a year ago. I have a 2019 RAV4. The remote app was problematic for me for quite a while. I would try and try on the coldest mornings to start my car through the app and it never would start. I had it in the dealer three times. The last time they thought they fixed it but after a couple days it quit working again. I didn’t do anything with it for a month or so and then thought I would try it again. I guess there was an update because I could not believe it started my car. Now it won’t lock it with the app. It says request could not be completed contact the dealer. My main reason for wanting the remote connect was to start my car. If I had only known that I could’ve started it with my key fob. I searched so many times to get help on the situation. Not sure how I missed your videos. I like how the app shows the tire pressure. Is there anyway to see your pressure in the car? I see the symbol when they are low or high in the car but don’t see the numbers of each tire. I am so glad I found you. I’m still finding out stuff my car does after 3 years. Now I know where to come for info if I need it. Thank you, thank you.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Different cars will show tire pressure but some cannot. I have a video on troubleshooting the remote connect that may help as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnfMdn6vZbSphKs

[@SuperKAgility]

Ok Steve like to know how to turn my Remote start back on. 2016 Highlander Limited Platinum. It should have came with it. Does not responded to key fob prompts. Ideas, thought, helpful hints?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

it did not necessarily come with it

[@SuperKAgility]

How can I find out? Also can I upgrade to the remote start without going aftermarket?@@stevenwelchtoyota

[@EndeAbgrunds]

2022 Toyota: Pay us monthly subscription to use remote start. 2028 Toyota: Pay us monthly subscription to use A/C system. 2036 Toyota: Pay us monthly subscription to use windshield wipers. 2040 Toyota: Pay us monthly subscription to use brakes.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

you only pay yo use the app based system

[@KiotiUgry]

@@stevenwelchtoyota Is there another way? My 2021 Tundra doesnt have a button on the fob to start. Seems like the app is the only way which means you must pay the sub - no? Appreciate your videos!

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@KiotiUgry you hot the lock button 3 times holding lock on the 3re press until it flashes the lights

[@KiotiUgry]

@@stevenwelchtoyota I saw this on another video and I tried it without luck. Not sure what I am doing wrong here, the vehicle shows up in the Toyota app as remote start capable. Would much rather use the fob than the app but, cant figure out what gives. Thanks again.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@KiotiUgry here is how to use it kzbin.info/www/bejne/bae8YZp5j7dmp9U

[@josiasgamas9574]

What is the point of starting your car with the remote control and when you open the doors to enter into the vehicle the engine turns off then you will have to turn it on again

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

It's a safety feature so someone can't steal your car

[@philliptatum2682]

The reason the vehicle shuts down is to keep some thief from walking up to your vehicle, opening the door, climbing in and driving away with it! 😎

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@philliptatum2682 correct

[@djjohnnyparis5183]

The doors should all remain locked when you remote start the car to prevent anyone from opening the doors. When the person with the key fob comes to open the door, the vehicle should recognize the key fob and not shut off. I love remote starting my car, but hate that it shuts itself off as I open the door. Especially for the fact that I am the one with the key fob. You could pull up to anywhere and put the car in park. Then open the door, leave the key fob in the car, walk away from the vehicle and the car will stay running. LMAO!! 🤣 Shouldn't it recognize that you aren't sitting in the driver seat? 🤔 My point is that if you use the remote start the doors should remain locked.. When the person with the key fob comes to open the door the car should remain running after doing so. .

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@djjohnnyparis5183 thanks for sharing

[@AbdelElrafa]

A toyota lot with cars on it… what a rare sight 🤩

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

They go fsst

[@dw8591]

Hi Steve, I purchased a 2023 Toyota Tacoma, SX package and it appears I did not get the remote connect. Do you know if there’s any way to call support and get it ? I have the Toyota app, but seems like it didn’t come with remote connect feature.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Email me your vin to [e-mail] I will see if it has it. If It didnt come with it you cannot add it.

[@jennyrubio9512]

I have 2022 highlander platinum, can i remote start from my window (winter time) and will it work since i am inside the house w key fob? I would love to go to a already warmed up car when freezing outside 😅

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Here is your answer kzbin.info/www/bejne/bae8YZp5j7dmp9Usi=4xk4OVjfg3b-_QFW

[@eddyj5932]

Thanks for the video. I have a 2019 Camry XSE will the remote start work if I am out of the country for a few weeks and forget to disconnect the battery? For example will using the remote start feature for a few minutes a few times a week to turn on the car save my battery? Thank you

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

it will run for 10 minutes and shut off but will only work 2 times before you need to open the door to allow for 2 more times

[@eddyj5932]

@@stevenwelchtoyota Thank you so much for the info. I really appreciate it

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@eddyj5932 no problem. I am always happy to help. Dont forget to like and subscribe, it means a ton!

[@ReflectiontoNothing]

Ok...I use remote start to warm up my hybrid before school. Any way to keep running when I open the doors?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

They are going to be pushing a update soon from what I have been told

[@mwheeler22]

Awesome information to know! I have the 2020 Toyota Highlander Platinum, my trail Toyota app expires in Aug 2021 it says.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

according to the information i got you should be good for either 3 or 10 years from your purchase date for key fob only depending if you have audio plus or premium systems

[@mwheeler22]

@@stevenwelchtoyota audio plus & premium system also.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@mwheeler22 I just saw you said platinum. You will only have the top system

[@MicheleBracken]

Would my 2018 Highlander XLE Hybrid have the remote start? I haven't been able to get it to start using your method:(

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

It was not standard in the 2018 it was an option. The procedure to start it would be the same if it had it.

[@MultiGio1979]

Hello how are you doing. Sorry I'm bothering you with my question, I bought 2022 platinum highlander an I downloaded the app an get it activated. My question is if I didn't subscribe after the free trial due my vehicle stop starting from the key fob or keep working with out the subscription . Thank you so much

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

You have to do the initial authorization to maintain the vehicle connection

[@timdaugherty5921]

When I start my 2021 Rav4 with the remote, will the car shut off if I walk away from it? Meaning I would start it up in the driveway and get the AC going. Would it shut off?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

do you mean if you sit in it and start it or use the remote start?

[@Mo_to25]

Does this have on corolla LE 2022?thanks

[@macferro8337]

Dose this work in the 2018 Avalon

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

no

[@Jayjay-wo7ld]

Hiii I have a question, I have a Toyota Corolla 2020 LE does it come with the car or do I have to add it on??

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

it didnt offer it

[@anixelta7293]

On the 2021 Sienna XSE spec sheet it says, "Short Range Key Fob Remote Start (requires active DCM)" So does that mean it would be up to 10years (remote start) but you HAVE TO activate the app access to use it? It's a bit confusing.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

You have to have activated the remote start at some point but dont have to keep paying for the app after to keep it from the remote key fob. If it has never had remote connect authorized it will not work after a bit

[@anixelta7293]

@@stevenwelchtoyota thanks for the clarification your videos been super helpful, keep it up!

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@anixelta7293 thank you. No problem. Please like and subscribe

[@ieduka8]

Will I still be able to remote start my car via the iPhone app or my iWatch w/o renewing Remote Connect on my 2020 Camry XLE? TYVM for these videos!

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Not if you dont pay the $8 per month or $80 per year for the app access

[@tails300]

It’s weird my 21 Camry SE hybrid came with the remote connect function disabled on the app, but the remote start function works just fine with the fob (I’m not complaining though since it has some remote start functionality).

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Did you sign up on the app and enable it?

[@tails300]

@@stevenwelchtoyota I only have options for "Safety Connect" and "WiFi Connect" which I’m already subscribed to.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@tails300 how long have you owned it?

[@tails300]

@@stevenwelchtoyota I got it last Sunday.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@tails300 email me the vin. I will check on its capabilities [e-mail]

[@sheliaowsiak6108]

Help! I bought a used 2019 Highlander Limited from a dealership. I have tried repeatedly to use the auto start..Lock, lock hold down lock on third press. Nada! Ant idea of problem?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

the 19 does not always have remote start. You probably don't have it.

[@sheliaowsiak6108]

@@stevenwelchtoyota Do I need to go to dealership to find out? Would it be standard on a Limited model?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@sheliaowsiak6108 email me your vin I can pull the equipment you have for you

[@goryann5327]

Hi Steven, I'm a little confused, I bought a 2018 Highlander about 3 months ago and I didn't know about the remote start and the other day while I had the key in my pocket I pressed the bottom guess too many times to make sure was locked and I was surprised that vehicle started. Thought was really cool so I look online for information and supposedly 2018 has remote start but after that I had tried many times following your instruction but won't work☹

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Lock lock lock. All within 1 second and holding the 3rd time

[@goryann5327]

@@stevenwelchtoyota It is weird but I tried many many times and vehicle won't turn on...only worked that day 'by mistake' lol

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@goryann5327 you still using the original key fob?

[@goryann5327]

@@stevenwelchtoyota Yes, the original.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@goryann5327 I will pull up to see of it came with it. Email your vin to me. [e-mail]

[@heidilisker7541]

Hello Steve! HELP! The Toyota navigation system will not let me enter my home or work address. It is greyed out when I press destinations. When I ask Hey Toyota it says this is not a service available to guests. I am listed as a primary driver.

[@jbshp2011]

Steven will this work on the 2022 corolla such as the SE or the Xse with a certain package?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Its possible yes

[@jbshp2011]

@@stevenwelchtoyota thanks

[@murkon_]

2021 highlander platinum?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

yup

[@murkon_]

Thanks

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@murkon_ no problem

[@moraga7419]

Does this work on a 2022 highlander model L ?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Not the L it's the only highlander without it

[@markkl4545]

Hi Steve couple of things just bought new 2021 highlL hybrid less than week ago said you need audio + radio sticker says I do tried the three time lock from FOB several times didn’t work do you need to subscribe to the remote connect ?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

You have to sign up for the free trial. It will enable the remote connect. Then you will get a code to enter. If it has been reported as sold but not enabled through the app it will not work even if equipped. If you would like me to verify it is equipped with remote connect feel free to email me the vin at [e-mail]

[@michellegarcia2778]

Would this work on a 2022 Corolla Le ?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

no

[@michellegarcia2778]

@@stevenwelchtoyota since the LE does not have it, do you know which Corolla 2022 models would have that feature available?

[@rickiegeiger3625]

So all the 22 Highlanders have remote connect? Remote start?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

other than the L

[@janeenlane4284]

I would like to know why the security settings make you type in a authentication code every 12 hours even though you have face ID on and you have it marked to keep you signed in to the remote app. when you are trying to get in your car late at night and you have to stand there and get an authentication code then this puts you in danger because your trying to start car before you get there but you have to sign in every 12 hours so the app does no good. Also, how many feet away can you be and still be able to start your car with the car remote, not the app? I have called several times to remote connect and they just say it is a "known" problem and they are working on it. This app is the worst I have ever seen. Maybe you can help me understand!

[@Mariceeel]

I have a 2021 Camry XSE and I had the remote subscription for free for a year. I didn’t end up paying for service, but after a year I renew my subscription but I can’t activate it since my car doesn’t give me the option to input the authorization code. Do you know how to fix it?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Hit your sos button and say enrollment. They can fix it

[@swarajpalsingh]

I have 2022 toyoyta highlander platinum that has remote connect service from where i can start vehicle, but i tried the 3 press of button that doesn’t work . And remote start app is expiring soon. So do i need to go to delership to do some kind of programing to vehicle so i can use remote start from my key fob

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

This should take you through some steps to make sure its not something simple. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnfMdn6vZbSphKs

[@seaningram5041]

2021 RAV4 Prime XSE. Lock, unlock, hazard light functions work well but remote start will not. Error: “Remote command interrupted. Try again” Any advice?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Have you opted in for the connected services?

[@seaningram5041]

@@stevenwelchtoyota Yes, I have. Verified in the app I'm enrolled for a few more months.

[@erindivine7171]

2020 Corolla Night Shade SE?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

no

[@2PDLM4]

How do you take off the feaure when it turns off when you’re abt to get in

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

that is how it works. its not sble to be changed

[@edsoriano924]

Hello I have a 2018 camry xse with the jbl updated recently to Apple car play the remote start works with key fob, I paid for renewal of subscription and the remote connect won’t start the car it says error D5 see dealer.. any insight on this before I head down to dealer.. ?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Did you have remote connect the whole time?

[@miemieposh]

I had just purchased a 2021 toyota camry, and the remote start not working. I tried with my key fob 2 click and one hold for 10 seconds and it's not working.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

What trim level

[@miemieposh]

​@@stevenwelchtoyota I have 21 se

[@J_Calvin_Hobbes]

New vehicles are at the price point where I could have a 70's Dodge van resto-modded, and not have all the electronic garbage / forced subscriptions, AND all the aftermarket goodies I want.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Cars have come a long way

[@J_Calvin_Hobbes]

@@stevenwelchtoyota I do appreciate your videos. I will stick with my 2006 awd Sienna, thanks to all the information I've seen about 2021 models.

[@nkyryry]

Why the holy hell would they not just install it on the fob permanently. If I go to sell this car through private sale.. I shouldn’t have to mess around with transferring an app service or explaining to the new buyer that it used to have remote start but doesn’t anymore. This is a feature that EVERYONE uses almost every day. It’s a feature they have to get right. And they’re acting like they have no idea what they’re doing.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

You can add the fob receiver if you want. The fob connectivity is tied to the cloud and is free to use the fob for 10 years. They added it for free as the remote connect was allowed to be free for that time after. If you add the receiver then you can use it forever app free

[@omerlatif2776]

I have 2021 Highlander Hybrid XLE my key fob remote start worked for few months & now it stopped working. I spoke with someone at dealership I was told that I need to activate connect app (paid version) in order for me to use remote start

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

if you did not opt in for the free trial it will opt you out. you need to opt in for the connected services then the fob will work for free for 10 years.

[@jennyrubio9512]

What app? I guess this is why my remote start is not working

[@frankg3072]

I have a 2019 RAV4 limited with remote connect and it has been working fine up until a few weeks ago. The was an app update and after that it stopped working. I deleted the app and reinstalled it and nothing. I called Toyota and spoke with three different reps and no one could help me. I then went back to the dealership and they worked on it for over an hour and they couldn’t help me. Have you come across any one else with this problem and a possible solution. I’m just beside myself. The app works on my iPad but not on my phone. I went so far as to purchase a new phone and still no good. Any suggestions? Thanks.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Let me research it for you

[@jonathanjoseorbillo759]

Thats what happen to my rav4 what should i do?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

What happened exactly

[@jonathanjoseorbillo759]

@@stevenwelchtoyota hello i can’t use my keyfob for remote start and my apps says i need to contact the dealership when im trying to start my car using toyota app

[@jennyrubio9512]

So what i’m understanding is i need an app to activate remote start? And i need to pay for that? 😳😳 what app?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

The toyota app. Your car has to have the Remote connect system

[@wahabgill]

I’ve 2021 Highlander hybrid xle, I’ve deleted the connect app cause I didn’t want to share my data with Toyota like where I’m going n how much I’m travelling but I find out after deleting the app I’m not able to remote start anymore. What should I do?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

get the app

[@wahabgill]

@@stevenwelchtoyota if I get the app, it’ll still shares my data with Toyota or not ? Thanks for replying earlier too

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@wahabgill by definition it has to be able to. If you hit the lock button on the app or the start button it sends a message to Toyota. If you hit the sos button it sends your location to send help. Toyota does not sit there watching you

[@wahabgill]

@@stevenwelchtoyota thanks for your kind replies I’d rather not to have app cause after that I’ll have to pay $8 per month to keep remote stater if I’m not wrong

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@wahabgill they only do it app based and originally if they cut off the app it would lose the remote start feature but they have fixed that so that the majority of them will still remote start from the fob for the next 10 years even if you pay 0. You do have to enable the app and the vehicle for the free trial to have that though. Its actually a better deal cause they don't charge extra for remote start that way where in years past it would have been around 800 to 1000 to have it.

[@mewaelashenefi224]

How about Rav4 2019 the remote can I use in my phone

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

depends on which audio system you have.

[@sammyjammy6647]

@@stevenwelchtoyota when my hybrid XLE rav4 finally arrives at the dealership it’ll be equipped with the peasant audio system, meaning the base audio. No plus or JBL. For a 2021 vehicle with almost a 35k msrp I’m thinking Toyota is maximizing those profit margins really well. Here’s my question which I almost know what the answer is but you’re the boots on the ground guy. Would I be able to switch up to audio plus if I choose to in the future? Or is that a no go? It’s either you buy it with it or forget it. Right?

[@aryehrosenthal2138]

Great review. What about 2020 Toyota Sienna XLE?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

it did not have remote connect available on the 20 sienna

[@aryehrosenthal2138]

Thanks for sharing this information.

[@dontworry1568]

is remote start standard?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

No but is coming on a large amount of Toyotas

[@michaellisowski568]

As usual, great information. Thanks

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Thanks for watching!

[@MkMk-kq1qs]

How about le Toyota Highlander 2021 start with remote

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

all except the L have it

[@naiomymelendez6331]

I had a LE 2021 and can’t do it 😢

[@Lavoye]

You pay for something that's in your car, but you can't use it unless you subcribe... So, you paid for it, it's there in the hardware and software, but you can't use what you own unless they milk a bit more money from your cash cow! Great respect for the customer!

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

You cant use the app unless you pay for it. You can still use the remote start just not the app. There is a cost to maintaining the app and the connection that the app uses which is using cell towers. That is what you are paying for.

[@wahabgill]

@@stevenwelchtoyota but you said you gonna lose that remote start function if not using remote connect.. I’ve deleted the remote connect app for my 2021 Highlander hybrid but now I’m not able to remote start.. what should I do ?

[@chipmulligan8963]

Holy crap, that was a brutal explanation 😂

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

thanks

[@skylerbartholomew7802]

My rav4 came with the free trail but since that has ended the remote start hasn't worked

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

You may need to update your system

[@skylerbartholomew7802]

@@stevenwelchtoyota how do I go about doing that?

[@Kim-ek2mt]

My remote start on my 2021 highlander is very very finicky The dealer said you have to have rhythm Very frustrating

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

lock 3 times holding on the 3rd all within 1.5 seconds

[@Kim-ek2mt]

@@stevenwelchtoyota Thank you Steven it worked 👍 It is silly that it shuts off when you unlock the door My Ram does not shut off

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@Kim-ek2mt happy to help

[@301Keke]

Doesn't work with my 2016 Toyota Highlander Limited AWD. Maybe I don't have it.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

The remote connect system is on the 20 and newer

[@301Keke]

@@stevenwelchtoyota Thank you.

[@smiznak]

Great info Steven. The vehicle you demonstrated with is my exact model: platinum blueprint with glazed caramel. I still don't fully understand why the remote connect subscription needs to be active to start the vehicle from a key fob. You would think that the RF signal mechanism which locks/unlocks the car could also start it. Go figure...

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

it will allow it to start from the fob

[@matthansen1948]

I don't want to use the Toyota app, it's worthless, how do I use the remote start with out it.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Hit the lock button 3 times in a row holding on the 3rd. Must hit each time.within 1.5 seconds of each other

[@golamchoudhury1392]

How about Rav4 2022 Le

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

no

[@sitjavier]

When you remote start the suv it turns off when you open de door or unlock the doors?? I hate that should be like others brands..... Go off if you don't have the key with you and tey to move the gear shift...... I make no sense have remote start and restart the car when you get inside.... I'm a big fan of toyota but unfortunately for that feature i have to go with Honda pilot instead

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

If that is your only issue then why would you change brands? Seems like what you lose in resale reliability comforts etc would keep you from changing

[@mrram1012]

I have a 2020 Camry xse with jbl sound system and my remote start was gone within the 1st year

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

did you ever enable the app?

[@1990zadel]

My 2022 does not have remote start feature

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

What vehicle?

[@1990zadel]

@@stevenwelchtoyota 22 high lander I think the L no leather seats

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

The L is the only one without it

[@1990zadel]

@@stevenwelchtoyota I heard they all come with it

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Le and higher do

[@marinelsonlovedthecomments2327]

Thank you for your information

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Happy to help

[@WolfArms-e3r]

2021 Tacoma sr

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

it wont have remote start

[@rafaelmadrigal9038]

I guess is good for gasoline engines in cold weather to warm up the car before leaving to work. Otherwise, why bother.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Yes

[@chadkent1158]

Pay for remote to work... 🤬 that.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

It will work but the app wont

[@salahbourai653]

Thanks for the info

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Happy to help

[@whitmirehome9184]

Awesome, thanks!

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

No problem!

[@bethdover2685]

Thank you! Whoop!

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

No problem

[@alphonsotownsend8208]

Thanks

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Welcome

[@cecillor9601]

That great from toyota

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

I agree

[@safdarakbari]

Its a total scam by Toyota. My Honda Pilot 2016 has remote start and my 2019 Toyota Avalon which i bought used in 2022 does not have it? I am quite disappointed

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

IT can be added but not the app based system the Avalon never had the app based system

[@Cre8tive81]

This is wrong. Toyota should be boycotted. Why pay monthly for something you own? The lock/unlock doesnt work either if your not subscribed from what I understand.. Id say rip the auto start out, and tell them to buy it back from you, and charge them a monthly fee lol

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

You pay for the app access. There is a cost to keep the app that is what you are paying for. Technology is not free

[@Cre8tive81]

@@stevenwelchtoyota Don't you already pay for it when you buy the car? Paying twice is bad business. Or are they selling the cars at a loss and trying to make up for it with subscription fees?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

@@Cre8tive81 they are basically giving you remote start for free. The old way was a option that would add around 800 to most vehicles if you added it. If you choose not to subscribe you still have the remote start and pay 0. The charges are for maintaining the app plus paying for the cell signal you use to send the messages to the car. Toyota has to pay for access to that

[@michaellabonte1260]

So you are telling us that Toyota is controlling the function of features on the car that I OWN. What a bunch of crap that is.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

they also send updates to your vehicle so it continues to interface with your phone over the air

[@daved6464]

Toyota Sucks. Making me pay to use my fob. I WILL NEVER BUY A TOYOTA.

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

they make you pay to use the app the fob will work either way

[@daved6464]

@@stevenwelchtoyota thats not bad then. I heard on Lehtos Law that they were planning on the fob being part of the subscription

[@bramjam2314]

I almost ripped my hair out listening to you. Can't you talk a little faster?

[@stevenwelchtoyota]

Sure

[@markd9155]

Does my 2023 bz4x xle have the key fob remote start? If not, anyway to enable it or add digital key?