Compare All 2025 Toyota Camry Trim Levels: Who Win's This Battle?

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ToyotaJeff Reviews

ToyotaJeff Reviews

Ай бұрын

2025 Toyota Camry - I compare every trim level side-by-side interior, technology, safety, pricing & more!
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@jeanmfernandez237
@jeanmfernandez237 Ай бұрын
I like the fact that le comes with rear a/c vents, usb connectivity,vanity lights for mirrors. What a bargain! Nice 👍
@wolflarson71
@wolflarson71 Ай бұрын
Great video comparing all the trims. Very helpful for those of us considering getting one soon.
@elijahjenkins1669
@elijahjenkins1669 Ай бұрын
I’d get the base model it’s got all I need. It would be cool to see all of the exterior lights on the different trims.
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA Ай бұрын
Base model gets better fuel economy, ESPECIALLY with the hybrids.
@davidy.7534
@davidy.7534 Ай бұрын
I was debating on the Corolla Cross hybrid S and SE trims and ended up with the base. I don't need a wireless charger, roof racks, sun roof, and whatever else comes with the higher trims. So far no regrets despite the Camry looking nice.
@junior17medval
@junior17medval Ай бұрын
Same, I want the base camry as I don’t need the expensive fancy stuff. At the end of the day I want a reliable and fuel efficient commuter sedan.
@wolflarson71
@wolflarson71 Ай бұрын
Those chintzy rims though.
@QuentinQuatermass
@QuentinQuatermass Ай бұрын
I would like to see the exterior lights turned on too. I expect it will be like the current 8th generation, the XLE/XSE will be nicer and full LEDs. When I got my 2019 SE I was disappointed the wraparound taillights didn't light up! And finally put XSE taillight housings on my SE.
@vindevhunta4905
@vindevhunta4905 Ай бұрын
Nice colors ..SE trim ❤ Looks better than the out going model And definitely looks better than the new accord
@fightnight14
@fightnight14 Ай бұрын
I like the Ocean Gem color it looks nicer under the sun
@stevenr1354
@stevenr1354 Ай бұрын
Brilliant video. I haven't seen anyone else compare the 4 trims in detail like that. And the review of features list by trim was really helpful. I couldn't figure why the base LE had a leather wheel until you showed the trim list and it's on the $600 cold weather package. The LE is my choice because of 16" wheels and softer suspension than SE.
@gigglybeast
@gigglybeast 28 күн бұрын
I want the XSE with 16" wheels. Big wheels are stupid.
@stevenr1354
@stevenr1354 28 күн бұрын
@gigglybeast Would cost you about $1200 to get decent 16" alloys and tires. I recently dumped the 18" wheels on my Civic Sport and downsized to 16". Have to insure that brake calipers can accommodate downsizing.
@tylersimpson3512
@tylersimpson3512 Ай бұрын
Toyota made the right decision going with the 16” alloys instead of the steel with wheel covers on the LE
@djohnso809
@djohnso809 Ай бұрын
Great video Jeff! Very informative!
@Vian_Cheung
@Vian_Cheung Ай бұрын
Great coverage Jeff 👍 As for me I will go with LE AWD trim. The Ocean Gem color is so beautiful! 💚
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
Jeff, I am so glad I sold all my shares in the Honda Accord yesterday. 😉😉
@grubbp
@grubbp Ай бұрын
Thanks for doing such a great deep dive on the trims Jeff! I haven’t been able to get this content anywhere else! I really like the XLE but the dinamica suede looks straight up cheap compared to leather. The SE softex looks great but probably runs hotter on longer road trips and I’d prefer the softer ride of the XLE.
@johngalt5411
@johngalt5411 22 күн бұрын
Nice comparison, thx!
@reiff4life49
@reiff4life49 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for this--very informative. I am probably going to get LE (16 inch wheels) to avoid higher tire prices, as I tend to keep cars for a long time.
@stevefraser1409
@stevefraser1409 Ай бұрын
GREAT Video
@evo1video
@evo1video Ай бұрын
I'd 100% get the L. E has better gas mileage and it has Toyota Safety sense 3.0 and Android Auto. That's all I need in the car.
@jpdoc5722
@jpdoc5722 Ай бұрын
nice color option too 👍
@mikejohnson9118
@mikejohnson9118 Ай бұрын
JEEEEFFFFFFFFF...you wild and crazy guy!
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand Ай бұрын
Why can’t larger wheels be OPTIONAL? I want 16” but also want the features of XLE, etc. This should at least be a no charge swap at Toyota dealerships.
@williamjerseyshore
@williamjerseyshore Ай бұрын
Americans seems to be in love with the large wheels. They make very little sense for a daily driver.
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand Ай бұрын
@@williamjerseyshore yeah! And such a head scratcher for a hybrid, which is supposed to be about efficiency... Fine to make big wheels an option, but standard equipment should always maintain the integrity of efficiency
@Sashazur
@Sashazur Ай бұрын
I hate large wheels - they’re more delicate (both the rims and the tires) and they ride harsher.
@rosstoolfan
@rosstoolfan 29 күн бұрын
Agreed. XLE for me but a new wheel/tire choice from TireRack. Lightweight 16" wheels and Michelin CrossClimate 2's
@dominionian7193
@dominionian7193 26 күн бұрын
This is *exactly* the reason I would go for XLE instead of XSE -- I feel that 19" wheels on a Camry only has aesthetic benefits, but has a lot of drawbacks in being prone to damage
@marinoint
@marinoint Ай бұрын
Rear A/C vents even on the base LE trim! That would be a big selling point over its competitions. The available AWD is fantastic too!
@bill.godwin-austen
@bill.godwin-austen Ай бұрын
For my tastes, it looks like the XLE has the most bang for the buck. One thing I wish: That the seat memory function was available in a package less massive than the "Premium Plus" (at $4k+). It's the only feature in that package that is really calling to me, and not worth having to get all the other items just to get the seat memory. Having a smaller "convenience/tech" package to be able to get that at a more reasonable additional cost would make it a lot more attractive.
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 Ай бұрын
I wish the rain sensing wipers were available on the XSE model!
@ICU306
@ICU306 Ай бұрын
The led daytime running lights and led turn signals front/rear should be standard on ALL trims. That really grinds my gears
@jr1885
@jr1885 Ай бұрын
I’m not really sure why Toyota thinks this is great place to cost cut. I especially don’t like the small rear LED dots as taillights on the LE and SE.
@openscholar9908
@openscholar9908 Ай бұрын
Why? Shouldn't we have options to pick what we want?
@junior17medval
@junior17medval Ай бұрын
I don’t know why this surprises some of you. Toyota has been doing this for years. If they make it standard on all models no one would want to buy the higher end models.
@tylerm1997
@tylerm1997 Ай бұрын
Toyota has been misleading with their lighting designs for the longest and it drives me nuts too. They claim that the Corolla has “distinct” signature daytime running lights but in reality they’re headlight integrated and not distinct at all. Even on the current 2024 models. The turn signals are LED but they’re not the DRLs and they’re only on when the headlights are on. It really started with their “Triple J” headlight design. They’re accent lighting . It’s also wild to think that it’s 2024 and they still have vehicles that have halogen DRLs
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor Ай бұрын
Not everyone wants LEDs in the first place.
@PhuGamer
@PhuGamer Ай бұрын
The XSE premium plus package doesn’t come with memory seat while the XLE premium plus package does…Toyota must really hate us “sporty” driver here to not have that luxury feature lol
@jaqkorycohen2236
@jaqkorycohen2236 Ай бұрын
for real same with kia
@gigglybeast
@gigglybeast 28 күн бұрын
They also think we want those ridiculous oversized wheels.
@dominionian7193
@dominionian7193 26 күн бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the XSE premium plus package also doesn't come with rain-sensing wipers, while XLE does? I'm assuming this may be to make up for costs of other things exclusive to XSE (19" wheels, spoiler and other sport body molds, etc)
@Irishmanbikes
@Irishmanbikes Ай бұрын
I read that the 2025 Camry has a new feature called Exit Alert. Would love for you to demonstrate it Jeff.
@MrIMCP
@MrIMCP Ай бұрын
Great redesign! I just wish there was an option like the previous gen TRD, that edition is sweet!
@Premier910
@Premier910 Ай бұрын
Love those 16” donuts on the LE. LE is what I need but want the xle in windchill, lt gray interior fwd with premium plus Pkg.
@rodolfocuenca5752
@rodolfocuenca5752 Ай бұрын
I drive a Camry xse but Im really loving the xle styling on this new gen!!
@user-dz3pv4ww3u
@user-dz3pv4ww3u Ай бұрын
Great video, 2 questions: 1-Does the XLE version comes with the black leather interior? 2-Does the XSE have the heads up display option? Thank you 😊
@chrisocon
@chrisocon 20 күн бұрын
Yes to both
@Dac54
@Dac54 Ай бұрын
My favorite trim is the XSE with the premium plus package and awd, though not necessarily in that color. It seems that the only feature not available on the XSE is the memory seat function, which I've never used on my Rav4 Hybrid Limited anyway. I wish the XSE would have fog lights included since it's the higher end sport trim. Otherwise, the LE is my second favorite trim; it's actually a nice trim and value, especially with the added options. Did anyone notice the spot of paint chipped off on the left side of the front bumper on the XLE?
@513partyrocker
@513partyrocker Ай бұрын
At around 1 minute 37 seconds in the video, you can see a guardian gray Prius in the background and then immediately get a look at the underground Camry. Those colors look pretty darn similar in this video. What do you think Jeff? Are they similar colors in person?
@Toyotajeff
@Toyotajeff Ай бұрын
Yes, definitely similar but if you put them next to each other, you’ll see a difference. I’ll try to get the two colors together for a Facebook picture together.
@alanzemsky7695
@alanzemsky7695 Ай бұрын
Has there been an approximate date set as to when the new models will be in stock?
@kinw5648
@kinw5648 Ай бұрын
I plan on getting the white xle with all the bells and whistles. I don't necessarily want a pano roof but I don't see the option for regular sunroof when I did the build on toyota site.
@jeremyshideler4187
@jeremyshideler4187 Ай бұрын
The best for me is the 2024 SE INTERIOR with the exterior and engine upgrade of the 2025 SE … the 2024 SE REAL GUAGES and interior design RULES! Nice flowing lines and actual CHARACTER in the ‘24 interior!!!
@AH-bm4ts
@AH-bm4ts Ай бұрын
Forgot the extra top spec Camry called the Lexus ES
@markmandelstamm2866
@markmandelstamm2866 Ай бұрын
I wonder if there are any subscription services required to keep all the options working?
@RIDETONOWHERE-ir3gx
@RIDETONOWHERE-ir3gx Ай бұрын
Le for me as it has all the basics I would want and use on a daily. I would not need no upgrade features. Maybe one the moonroof. Test drive here I come. I love the ocean gem color. Great job Jeff keep the funny coming.
@alexbutsenko9239
@alexbutsenko9239 Ай бұрын
I love the xle trim a lot
@teamhonzilla
@teamhonzilla Ай бұрын
The LE model color look nice I think that color might be on the new 4runner 🔥🔥🔥
@bellotmehdi
@bellotmehdi Ай бұрын
Hello Jeff, Unfortunately Smart Keyless entry is not standard you have to pay $1050 for it as part of convenience package.
@harris7963
@harris7963 Ай бұрын
I like those cooling seats on the XLE but don’t want to pay an extra 10k to get that feature comparing the LE
@dogie8c
@dogie8c Ай бұрын
Hey Jeff, When are you going to release the Toyota Crown Signia video? Still Embargo?
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
June 6
@hbdarji
@hbdarji Ай бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151how do you know
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
@@hbdarji A KZbinr (not Jeff) told me.
@chikanwafor4800
@chikanwafor4800 Ай бұрын
Nice and extensive review. For me XLE trim is leading the pack
@Toyotajeff
@Toyotajeff Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@enriquet548
@enriquet548 Ай бұрын
I'm liking the generic 16" wheels. Prefer that model instead of flashy wheels. Can't believe I'm saying that.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
All the extra sidewall will make driving much smoother, you will burn less gas and the tires will be cheaper to replace.
@wolflarson71
@wolflarson71 Ай бұрын
Nah. They looks super cheap and don't fill out the fenders enough.
@Sashazur
@Sashazur Ай бұрын
Some people like the look, some don’t. Some like the practicality, others don’t care. But the outer tire diameter will be the same no matter what size rims you have, otherwise the speedometer will be wrong.
@danielhabte7847
@danielhabte7847 20 күн бұрын
17" would be nice, my choice
@imports4lifetoyotalexus98
@imports4lifetoyotalexus98 Ай бұрын
@ToyotaJeff Reviews I will get SE or XSE because it is different and more sportier look. The price is so expensive. Hey Jeff, do you have any news on the new refresh 2025 Toyota Corolla Cross yet? Just curious. I love those new 2025 Toyota Camry. Thanks.
@beeslandscaping
@beeslandscaping Ай бұрын
What trim would you pick Jeff
@skorpyo331
@skorpyo331 2 күн бұрын
The rims are usually different on hybrids vs non?
@NoCrust
@NoCrust Ай бұрын
Nice! Now do 2025 RAV4 redesigned.
@TheOhFamily
@TheOhFamily Ай бұрын
Would the front grill catch more dirt and bugs and make it more difficult to clean?
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor Ай бұрын
Probably
@MindfulZenny
@MindfulZenny Ай бұрын
21:27 Bronze Crown Signia looking very nice - any videos coming soon on it?
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
June 6
@CarHaze
@CarHaze Ай бұрын
Nice Jeff
@jeffreyfinn2940
@jeffreyfinn2940 Ай бұрын
I see Firestone, Hankook, and Bridgestone tires. I prefer the Michelin brand that or Bridgestone.
@kennethhardy836
@kennethhardy836 Ай бұрын
I’m in the market for a vehicle. I’ve always heard do not get a car in its first year of a new model. Considering the ‘25 Camry basically has the same frame/build as a ‘24 Camry, does this rule of thumb go out the window?
@Sashazur
@Sashazur Ай бұрын
I think the biggest difference besides cosmetics, is that the hybrid system is a newer version than 2024 and earlier models. That’s still less difference than a totally new model, but it might make me wait a year.
@germzluh-boratory3729
@germzluh-boratory3729 Ай бұрын
Jeff b jammin lol he a whole vibe 😂😂😂
@EdEdd-li7pd
@EdEdd-li7pd Ай бұрын
Great job from Toyota, this is excellent.
@richharris4134
@richharris4134 Ай бұрын
I like the XLE but would likely purchase the LE
@yw4635
@yw4635 Ай бұрын
Am I alone who feel LE looks better than XLE?
@serc1237
@serc1237 Ай бұрын
SE
@yw4635
@yw4635 Ай бұрын
@@serc1237 best balance
@alvinacosta5586
@alvinacosta5586 Ай бұрын
Not a deal breaker but would be nice to option a 18/19" TRD Forged Wheels but sure there are plenty of aftermarket options.
@PAIKUN.
@PAIKUN. Ай бұрын
I hope they improve their seat comfort on LE/XLT
@bunmeng007
@bunmeng007 Ай бұрын
Toyota is going all in hybrid this year not just in the US market. Wont surprise me when Toyota only offers hybrid for c cross n rav4
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
You can bet on it.
@minhkha3382
@minhkha3382 Ай бұрын
Looks more pleasing to the eyes than the old generation. Old generation had too much going on in the face 😣
@HumbleBearcat
@HumbleBearcat 16 күн бұрын
I like the SE except I would like to have the horizontal grill.
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA Ай бұрын
I want the LE. With the 16 in. wheels, it gets better fuel economy than the other trims with 18 in. tires. It also appears the Push Start Button is an option and not standard on LE & SE trims. I would rather have the standard turn key. The push start button is nice, but can be expensive to repair if it ever malfunctions. Also, I’ve heard of vehicles (including Camrys) being stolen with push start. When drivers use their fobs, hackers can steal information and be able to start the vehicle and drive away.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@packerbacker69
@packerbacker69 Ай бұрын
Are you saying that cars that use a key to start cannot be stolen?
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA Ай бұрын
@@packerbacker69 Cars with push start can easily be stolen without a key.
@packerbacker69
@packerbacker69 Ай бұрын
@@GeneralSirDouglasMcA . Any car can be easily stolen, but it's much much less likely if you live in a the right city/state.
@bobprice6274
@bobprice6274 Ай бұрын
Please demonstrate the 360 view for parking
@brandonshells6321
@brandonshells6321 Ай бұрын
Previous model looks much better than 2025 model
@zulemadiaz6401
@zulemadiaz6401 Ай бұрын
When can we buy?????
@eddieb1244
@eddieb1244 24 күн бұрын
Any news on 2025 redesign & ETA thx luv channel
@eddieb1244
@eddieb1244 24 күн бұрын
Oops left out RAV 4 thx jeff
@user-tv8lz4ug7y
@user-tv8lz4ug7y Ай бұрын
Excellent XSE for me!
@ryankorte8601
@ryankorte8601 19 күн бұрын
Get the LE w/ AWD for the great value and swap out the rims for something sportier as soon as you have the extra disposable funds. Other than those rims the LE looks better than fine. Keep the old rims and use them for your winter wheels. (if needed)
@Hiyuki-mo2nh
@Hiyuki-mo2nh Ай бұрын
I wonder which blue should I go with...
@audit_the_frauditors
@audit_the_frauditors Ай бұрын
Hey Jeff any word on the Corolla for 2025?
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor Ай бұрын
Most likely will get a 2026 redesign. New Corolla generations are generally a year behind Camry.
@jonathanbo51
@jonathanbo51 25 күн бұрын
Toyota should just upgrade the wheel trims on the LE to metal make all the model look good on the road!!
@johnfr2389
@johnfr2389 Ай бұрын
Ventilated seats?
@zacharyfett2491
@zacharyfett2491 Ай бұрын
I’ve always liked the honeycomb design better than the bar design.
@sneed915
@sneed915 Ай бұрын
Same reason i got an SE corolla the LE design looks like it has the cheapest plastic.
@TrionityIr
@TrionityIr 20 күн бұрын
At first, I thought the new camry front design looks ugly but I've changed my mind. I think they're alright.
@charlesjackson1700
@charlesjackson1700 Ай бұрын
I don't like the color keyed grill on the XSE.. I don't know why they did that?😵‍💫
@davidp.4727
@davidp.4727 Ай бұрын
SE for me all day long !
@nave747
@nave747 Ай бұрын
Any plans for trd?
@carljohnson7
@carljohnson7 Ай бұрын
No, its fully discontinued hybrids are making bank for Toyota and so its competitors. The demand for hybrid is huge and Toyota is trying to capitalize on that
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh Ай бұрын
LE in Reservoir Blue
@NoNameFish247
@NoNameFish247 Ай бұрын
I can’t believe there’s no way to option out the sunroof with the convenience plus package on the xle or xse. Do I want less roof insulation in Florida? No do I want less headroom for my rear passengers no. Do I want to look up at the sky while I’m driving down the road, nosunroof should always be an option a separate option.
@dwu9369
@dwu9369 20 күн бұрын
The LE with the BSM is an upgrade package which brings the car to over $30K. Toyota nickel and diming.
@davidblaine2798
@davidblaine2798 12 күн бұрын
Bsm is standard on all 2025 Camrys even the base LE
@m4st3rm1nd9
@m4st3rm1nd9 Ай бұрын
Can you show XSE Camry all two tone colors
@blakespower
@blakespower Ай бұрын
would this be a better car to get than a non turbo Mazda 3 hatchback? camry has better gas mileage and higher hp even though they both have a 2.5 engine
@SkrollrYex
@SkrollrYex Ай бұрын
Hi J! I just want 25 TRD ? How is it like?
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor Ай бұрын
There's no such thing
@ryanespinoza7297
@ryanespinoza7297 Ай бұрын
TRD is dead
@joecharmley
@joecharmley Ай бұрын
The base one looks best dark blue
@jxmar_
@jxmar_ Ай бұрын
Love the LE but the cheap lighting is a deal breaker
@pinoyrunningpenguin
@pinoyrunningpenguin Ай бұрын
Duh? that's only a $10 LED bulb which you can replace anytime and you dont even need tools. Get out of here. I replaced all lights in my 04 Accord to LED for less than $200
@cincy9381
@cincy9381 9 күн бұрын
I love the look of the XSE, but why take out features that the XLE has. I really want the XSE trim, but don't want to give up the features. I will be going with the XLE premium plus unfortunately. I spend more time in the car than I do outside looking at it.
@user-nr2ch9pp2g
@user-nr2ch9pp2g 15 күн бұрын
If you can't get a V6 you might as well get the LE Camry. It's just like buying an appliance. Just buy the top appliance if you can afford to waste your extra money.
@moezytube6652
@moezytube6652 Ай бұрын
The markups boutta go crazyyyy😂😂
@joeyGalileoHotto
@joeyGalileoHotto Ай бұрын
Greedy dealerships will definently take advantage and say its a part shortage when in reality its just capitalizing on high demand
@Sashazur
@Sashazur Ай бұрын
@@joeyGalileoHottoMarkups usually drop after the people who want the car “no matter what” get one. Plus
@alexbutsenko9239
@alexbutsenko9239 Ай бұрын
I wonder what the Camry TRD TRIM will look like
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor Ай бұрын
Don't think it's coming back.
@ryanespinoza7297
@ryanespinoza7297 Ай бұрын
You want a TRD hybrid? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose?
@TalismanPHX
@TalismanPHX Ай бұрын
XLE in Ocean Gem please
@elai3147
@elai3147 Ай бұрын
le with 16s look the best, tired of big wheels and black wheels
@geoffreymak000
@geoffreymak000 Ай бұрын
i wish they do away the hammerhead design soon.
@jpdoc5722
@jpdoc5722 Ай бұрын
LE has best color 😊 bang for buck too 👍
@dragonj2031
@dragonj2031 Ай бұрын
LE is enough for me, but black wheel looks much cooler 😅
@user-vc5vr3rh5f
@user-vc5vr3rh5f Ай бұрын
I like the se
@joshuawang5859
@joshuawang5859 Ай бұрын
where is the sun classes holder?
@Sashazur
@Sashazur Ай бұрын
Not there if you have a sunroof.
@joshuawang5859
@joshuawang5859 Ай бұрын
@@Sashazur I can't see it even on LE trim
@CesarDelgado-fu2nd
@CesarDelgado-fu2nd Ай бұрын
😊😊
@joepierson3859
@joepierson3859 Ай бұрын
ugh the crab claw back light
@robval156
@robval156 Ай бұрын
Great video. Honda Civic is nicer than all of the Camry.
@maxstr
@maxstr Ай бұрын
I'm sorry but those JBL speakers look like they got installed at Best Buy. Rather than being integrated inside the columns, the cheap looking plastic things stick out like a sore thumb. It doesn't even match the color scheme
@Floridablaze97
@Floridablaze97 Ай бұрын
I'm honestly not a fan of the 2025 Camry designs. I feel they could've done a lot better, but I feel they made them look a lot like the new Prius.
@EdmondM3
@EdmondM3 Ай бұрын
agree 100%
@jeisongarrido7376
@jeisongarrido7376 17 күн бұрын
will there be a TRD, I wonder?!
@steve9348
@steve9348 Ай бұрын
Honda need to step their game up, with all that low horsepower they be having for their cars
@truckercowboyed2638
@truckercowboyed2638 Ай бұрын
Horsepower isn't as important as torque in these cars . which the accord hybrid actually has more torque than the camry....
@tails300
@tails300 Ай бұрын
@@truckercowboyed2638the combined torque of the e-motor and gas engine isn’t listed on the Camry hybrids specs, but I’d estimate it to be the same or slightly more. It should be noted that even though the Accord lists its hybrid systems net torque it’ll almost never reach it because engine torque and electric motor torque happen at different times. Also because of the way Honda’s i-MMD hybrid system works you have to meet a specific threshold to get full fuel net torque.
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