Track While Scan - Announcement Teaser and Dev QA Impressions

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Jabbers

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@Jabbers
@Jabbers 2 жыл бұрын
The game in its current state has been in development for ~2 months. 90 days to pre-alpha preview? x-mas release? Where's my doubt button? 😂😅 I love the idea of new games, I love to check out new games. I like the overall idea of what the dev's want from this game but I just don't really believe the time table or way they are going about it is feasible, hopefully something clicks and there is a real eye opener moment for them and things get figured out. Also I really hope its not a scam.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
We appreciate the video, and what we think was a fair skepticism of what we're building. We're working hard to make this dream a reality, and while of course financial support helps us build bigger, better, and faster, we also appreciate free support in the form of feedback, and following our development updates as we build. We're excited and hoping to build the next generation of combat sim for the community that we love and have been a part of for so long.
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 2 жыл бұрын
Your doubt button is directly beneath your comment, looks like a thumbs up. Has been hammered 20 times already :)
@ShadeAKAhayate
@ShadeAKAhayate 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TWSgame Guys, first and foremost: _GAME DESIGN._ I cannot stress how often 'serious' game developers forget about it. Some straight out confuse game mechanics with game design (yes I'm pointing at Yudintsev @ Gaijin). If you ignore it, your game come out as a toy, much like how DCS is -- and it'll be a hell of a job to change that (see how ED struggles). If you neglect it, your game will be dull and uninteresting. And vice versa, e.g. Falcon 4 has provided 'structured rogue-like' experience -- and it lives on even 20 years after developer studio and publisher have died off. One other common pitfall -- eyecandy. ED is struck with 'photorealism' and overloads memory with gigabytes of useless textures despite after a bit these become nothing more than information markers for our brain. The result? Only 'select few' can even launch their game -- even without considering how many of those actually _do_ want to launch it. And lowering cockpit resolution makes it look like sh!te, all blurry and unreadable. Plus, don't even get me started at their helicopter rotor blades flickering, especially their shadows. Unrealistic as hell, imitating bad camera. Also, camera shake. The result? Obvious photo mode obviously forced on bad grounds, looking stellar in static or pre-selected perspectives (best rendered on server-grade computer to avoid stuttering and FPS drops), but looking crappy and devastating gameplay on real PCs. Obviously, there are much more of those pitfalls which ended dozens of widely known projects (and hundreds more less known ones). Be wary and tread lightly. Good luck.
@Adam-kk7nw
@Adam-kk7nw 2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for arma 4 and u all known that long way
@JacksonsPOV
@JacksonsPOV 2 жыл бұрын
After listening to the beginning of the Q&A video, it seems like main developer is just starting to learn Unreal Engine and is currently at the "Peak of Mt. Stupid" phase of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. I say this because I was there with Unreal Engine as well, so I know exactly what that's like.
@archer_dcs
@archer_dcs 2 жыл бұрын
100% agreed well said he's definitely at the peak of dunning-kruger rn
@Waffle4569
@Waffle4569 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot stop laughing
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you just won _5 internets_ for this totally underrated comment. Had me in stitches :D
@DasPenguin85
@DasPenguin85 2 жыл бұрын
Considering half the aircraft displayed are classified beyond belief, there's no way it'll be study level.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
We're building as close to real life performance as possible. Of course on classified aircraft we'll be simulating our best estimations given available data.
@DasPenguin85
@DasPenguin85 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame that's called an educated guess, not "study level". I mean, I wish you guys luck, but having spent a decade in sim development myself, your timelines are extremely unrealistic for what's been stated.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
​@@DasPenguin85 Study level on everything that's legally possible, and a good estimated sim on what's not. We aren't offering any official timelines currently, though the "nice-to-have" would be a small tech demo in 90ish days, and a pre-alpha around Christmas.
@cshader2488
@cshader2488 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame take your time! Do it right! If you make an amazing game the money will come rolling in. If you push it out too soon or without all the features it will be forgotten fast
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
@@cshader2488 Agreed on all counts.
@TheIke444
@TheIke444 2 жыл бұрын
Ah props to you for sticking around the Q/A. I had to dip out after 20 minutes when the "What fidelity" question got asked 4 times in a row. Thanks for making this concise video.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming to the impromptu QA as well. We did not expect anything close to this level of response. We're looking forward to dropping lots of development updates, and proving lots of critics wrong.
@TheCrash1983
@TheCrash1983 2 жыл бұрын
Track While Scan sounds like trick whale scam to me
@TrickerDCS
@TrickerDCS 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this just to see you look at me and tell me a story
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
😳
@TrickerDCS
@TrickerDCS 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame don’t kink shame me 😬
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
We're into the same thing. 👀
@IThanatopsisI
@IThanatopsisI 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds ambitious...too ambitious... DCS already has quite a bit of development where a team dedicated towards pushing out full fidelity modules rolls them out in a step wise fashion of bare features to full features that is years in the making for a single aircraft. and this is just merely dedication towards air combat with casual interest in land/sea assets (combined arms). Trying to strive for that same aircraft fidelity plus a ground warfare simulator (Arma) is a grand, lofty goal; it maybe too much for a small studio.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion.
@PeteV80
@PeteV80 2 жыл бұрын
I'll look it up in 5 yrs.
@Alvi410
@Alvi410 2 жыл бұрын
Already hating this. Looked at their site. 3 "Exclusive skins"... In a sim? Oookay. What was worse about them. They were the same model with minimal reskin. A "1993 Delta" to revive Black Hawk Down? Then why the fuck he has 2000+ helmet, vest and equipment with wrong patches, wrong uniform cut, wrong patches and so on. Jesus... Then i saw the F-16.... My god... My gooood how bad was it.... If they are honest about this they better get a grip.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion. We'd love to hear a little more about F-16.
@Alvi410
@Alvi410 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame Really? It looks like a chinese toy version of an F-16. The missiles are bad, the droptanks looks silly, the pylons are too short. The back spine, its shallow. The markings for the AAR door are too big. And then the Cockpit... dear god... How bad is it. Its completely wrong from its proportions relative to the size of the pilot and the machine and in its shape...
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alvi410 I'll make sure we take a closer peek at it.
@potatonamedtate6727
@potatonamedtate6727 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is going to get delayed, I don't see any way that it can be fully realized in such a short time. F2P model also seems very strange to me. I would absolutely love this as a warthunder replacement IF it is actually what they are claiming, but I highly highly doubt it. I will hold 0 expectations for this and just be happily surprised if it actually becomes more then a tiny tech demmo.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
We appreciate the support. We're looking forward to impressing you.
@potatonamedtate6727
@potatonamedtate6727 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame Best of luck! Really do wish you all the best.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
@@potatonamedtate6727 We hope to prove the skeptics wrong, and we appreciate the support.
@ImperiumLibertas
@ImperiumLibertas 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame Don't try to take on War Thunder. That's a bad idea. War Thunder is a very specific type of gameplay. Be a large scale war sandbox like Arma but with more refined vehicles, something between Arma and DCS. What people want is large scale combat like squad/arma with a refined combined arms experience.
@theflyingclown
@theflyingclown 2 жыл бұрын
It's an outright scam. They haven't developed anything but an assets flip, are blatantly lying about various aspects of the project (including their non-existent refund policy) and are banning pretty much everyone who's asking too many unpleasant questions. I also want new games to succeed but it surely doesn't look like these guys have honest intentions.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
All of this is incorrect. 🤡
@smygdamp279
@smygdamp279 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are going hard on bans atm calling out people asking questions as "trolls"
@vurplex3082
@vurplex3082 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame Very professional response.
@bmanna495
@bmanna495 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame every comment response also on your channel is extremely passive aggressive they make people trust you even less
@theDemong0d
@theDemong0d 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not even sure what the audience would be. Study simmers won't touch a forced, game-ified ecosystem like the "points" system with a 10ft pole given that sims are pretty much obligate sandboxes, and the more casual audience that wouldn't mind isn't going to have the tolerance for an even Arma-level game let alone even an FC3-level sim lite, let alone a real study-sim. Not to mention that infantry and aircraft don't even operate in the same regime, so the only way to have them play together is usually in a heavily contrived scenario specifically set up for it, usually requiring all players to be cooperative (rather than have a War Thunder-style competitive game). Otherwise you'll have a 1km^2 infantry battle taking place somewhere with jets flying past at angels 30 on their way to a literal different country. Even if you specifically tasked the jets with doing CAS around/against the infantry players, the target area will be so obviously confined that the players will be sitting ducks with more or less no recourse against the jets, unless the ground players are willing to play a SAM crew and sit around for 45 minutes playing the odds of either taking a HARM out of nowhere, or eventually getting a chance to fire on an enemy jet (assuming they're situated in the part of the country that the sortie happens to fly over).
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 2 жыл бұрын
Some good points I hadn't even thought of!
@shinobi61
@shinobi61 2 жыл бұрын
good points
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Those are great points if we were building a sandbox game, or forcing players into a squared area. Neither of those is the case, and we're building a dynamic that's entirely new. Skepticism and criticism are welcome. Hang around for free, watch the development updates roll out, and decide for yourself.
@ThudVR
@ThudVR 2 жыл бұрын
Huh. Go figure. Thanks for the heads up, wait and see mode, engaged.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Wait and see is all we can ask for. Hang out, ask questions, and watch the development updates. Do not feel obligated to spend a dime.
@ImperiumLibertas
@ImperiumLibertas 2 жыл бұрын
What the people want is Squad infantry and armor mechanics, Arma Scale, sim planes/helis even if it's best guess.
@Waffle4569
@Waffle4569 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to stick your hand in a fire to know how not to get burned
@megad00die
@megad00die 2 жыл бұрын
Something like this takes a long time and 2 months development is no where near long enough. $1850.00 to pay for early access on something that might never even materialize, wow companies have some huge fucking balls. Seems like these days people have an idea and begin the panhandling process long before anything is actually produced. Unless these guys have something that actually can be installed and played with even 60% of related content / features working I wouldn't pay a dime.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Don't feel obligated at all to support us financially. Hang out for free, and watch the updates.
@Sandboxcode
@Sandboxcode 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jabbers it's great to see a new video from you!! Just great to hear your voice and you are looking well. In regards to this video, I just want to say I share your concerns.
@rakgitarmen
@rakgitarmen 2 жыл бұрын
It's sounds like a Star Citizen for DCS/ArmA players minus Chris Roberts. I pity the foo who actually falls for this.
@Jarlerus
@Jarlerus 2 жыл бұрын
At least SC has something to show for all the money they've received :P
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion.
@rakgitarmen
@rakgitarmen 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame Yeah, see you when you've released everything in full fidelity in your pre-order page.
@Jarlerus
@Jarlerus 2 жыл бұрын
Who's the project lead of this? CubanAce? ;)
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 2 жыл бұрын
Could as well be Dean Hall :D
@shatteredskies8292
@shatteredskies8292 2 жыл бұрын
“What’s an SME?” -TWS Dev member on their discord. They have absolutely no idea wtf they’re doing
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
That was tongue in cheek and the quote included a winky face. =)
@danieldorn9989
@danieldorn9989 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame [x] Doubtful
@Ice-00099
@Ice-00099 2 жыл бұрын
Stop "wishing" these people luck. This game won't happen. How many times does the sim community have to be burned by scams/heads-in-their-asses devs to learn that if it sounds too good to be true, it is. This game is an outright cash grab or straight up scam. Offering items for sale before showing any sort of gameplay is always a massive red flag. We don't need to be politically correct or polite to idiots like these "devs." I don't even want to call them devs, because they're using assets off the store and also technology that they didn't develop. They haven't made anything, just cobbled together pre-made assets and tech.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
You must be fun at parties. 🥳 Don't feel obligated to support us financially at all. Hang out for free, watch the development updates, and enjoy the show.
@belgeode
@belgeode 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds suspiciously like vaporware. Hmmm...
@T1gr0u
@T1gr0u Жыл бұрын
After a year now They changed the name Track while scam
@Jabbers
@Jabbers Жыл бұрын
Not just once, 4x
@m0rph3u5.
@m0rph3u5. Жыл бұрын
clearly its a scam, you do one Udemy or Epic Games course or even a few KZbin tutorials and you could create what's in these videos and leave everything else to the power of UE5 to make it look realistic. It's not about the visuals, the devil is in the gameplay, models, and most importantly optimization.
@PLHarpoon
@PLHarpoon 2 жыл бұрын
In game development you can either start small or with lots of cash. This one doesn't seem to do either.
@Cailean556
@Cailean556 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds very scam-like. That being said, I can appreciate the size and scope of it - and I do think it's cool - but I'm just not seeing how they can pull off such an ambitious and aggressive statement and timeline. With a "Free-to-Play" model, I can foresee them maybe doing a "base model" of older/early-model aircraft (like an early F-16A, for example) using a modular "clicky-cockpit" system shared by all airframes - ergo every aircraft uses more or less the same system just minor tweaks here and there to suit the specific aircraft (such as removing an INS/GPS capability on jets that don't have that particular capability, for example). The "buy ins" would have to be more advanced variants of base model aircraft (e.g. F-16C Block 30, Block 50, Block-52+) - and you certainly wouldn't give those up for free. They'd have to be using Wikipedia for their source material on almost every asset - F-22 and F-35 "study level" sim? Maybe in 2170 when the F-22 has been removed from the USAF inventory for a century and every country in the world is using fusion-powered anti-gravity drives on their space fighters... There is no damn way they can claim to have *A* "study level" aircraft after 2 months (or even 2 years, really) in development with a "pre-Alpha" in 3 months time and an EA release (if they're claiming 'full release', they're full of shit) by year's end.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support, and of course criticism is welcome. We have no official release date, as we're still in pre-alpha development. We are wanting to push out a tech demo in 90 days or so, and we'll be sharing lots of development updates. Feel free to hang around for free and follow the development.
@crochou8173
@crochou8173 2 жыл бұрын
even if using existing model would be fine but only if those instruments work
@henryredbird888
@henryredbird888 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't care about some quick models. It's the cockpit and realism I care about. Better models and textures can be made later.
@Bishop1105
@Bishop1105 2 жыл бұрын
A DCS-like with functioning Combined Arms (ARMAisch) - fuck yes. Never gonna happen on that timeline though. ^^'
@AvengerBB1
@AvengerBB1 2 жыл бұрын
It really would be amazing. That would probably be a game I never stop playing, ever. Agreed thought, it ain't happening any time soon.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion. We're hoping to have a playable tech demo of what we've built so far in the next 90 days at some point. If it takes longer than that, everyone will know.
@Fred-rv2tu
@Fred-rv2tu 2 жыл бұрын
Yea this won’t be full fidelity
@ScenarioFulfillment
@ScenarioFulfillment 2 жыл бұрын
this just fells really sus, man.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion.
@greyghost3497
@greyghost3497 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame take a drink every time TWS cut-n-pastes this same response to every comment. They can’t even spell “goals” right 🤦
@Orphican
@Orphican 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds almost perfect and I really hope it's not a scam and the devs can pull it off but hope isn't going to get me to open my wallet without some protection. If they need funds at this stage they're better off making a Kickstarter.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Don't feel obligated to spend any money. If you have any interest at all, hang out for free, and follow our updates. We have runway, but also have experience raising money and know not to wait until it's needed to start raising.
@Void304
@Void304 2 жыл бұрын
I wish these people luck (they're definitely going to need it), but after watching the progress of a another "all encompassing" PC simulation's progress for...almost a decade now? I'm decidedly skeptical about this one. I hope they're on the level, because a game like that would be awesome, but...
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion.
@Void304
@Void304 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame Well, the best of luck to you then. I'll be tracking your progress with interest.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
@@Void304 That's all we can ask for. We hope to impress.
@Lowkeh
@Lowkeh 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame Mate. For the love of _Dog,_ if you're gonna be replying to every other comment with that copy-pasta, could you at very least fix that bloody annoying typo? I kinda feel like Dexter in that "Omelette du Fromage"-episode after reading: _"Very lofty _*_goes_*_ "_ over and over, ᴀɴᴅ ᴏᴠᴇʀ, ᵃⁿᵈ ᵒᵛᵉʳ···
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lowkeh lmao, good eye. There are thousands of messages in the discord as well. So even if it's half canned, we want to try to interface with everyone.
@86abaile
@86abaile 2 жыл бұрын
This is giving me star citizen vibes all over again. Someone with a pipe dream and no game plan, making huge promises that are not realistically achievable in any reasonable timeframe or budget.
@sailyourface
@sailyourface 2 жыл бұрын
At least SC had an experienced dev team behind them. This seems more like vapor ware
@alexandrebelinge8996
@alexandrebelinge8996 2 жыл бұрын
Good looking trailer, I smell another Star Citizen ...
@AvengerBB1
@AvengerBB1 2 жыл бұрын
Is it an amazing initial premise? Yeah, absolutely. Does it worry me a bit that there is no initial plan to go with that premise? Definitely. Am I going to call it a scam? Nah. Not enough evidence to substantiate that claim. Let's see how things go over the next couple of months. Would I put any money into it? Not until I see something far more substantial. Gameplay, AI, a roadmap, a beta or alpha. All I have to say is be cautious and do some digging before dropping money. As for the game idea itself. It's ambitious, and I hope they can actually pull it off. Rethinking the timeframe would be a good start though. Fully fledged development studios with decades of combined experience across all facets of gaming wouldn't be able to make it. If they do? Sweet! If not? It was worth a shot I guess.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion. We appreciate your support for sure.
@CollectiveFX
@CollectiveFX 2 жыл бұрын
Star Citizen has been in the making for about a decade now, and that has millions of dollars behind it and its not even close to full release. i would expect the same for a Sim like this.
@henryredbird888
@henryredbird888 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much what I see them as. A new Star Citizen type sim. But these guys have Government backing and seem far more aggressive.
@TOMCATnbr
@TOMCATnbr 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks but no thanks. I will stay with my trusty old and awesome DCS ❤️
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
We're hardcore DCS fans ourselves. In fact, if you look at our line-up, we're intentionally not hitting any of the same aircraft.
@GamesforCykits
@GamesforCykits 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm will see, either a scam will be a letdown or most unlikely a mind-blowing next-gen game experience sooooo yea, my vote on huge scam
@potatonamedtate6727
@potatonamedtate6727 2 жыл бұрын
Also, reminds me of the old game Armor MMO, I feel like this may go that same direction ultimately.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
🤨
@rockcabbage
@rockcabbage 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a smash and grab scam. in fact I'd put money on it being one.
@aahnecroth
@aahnecroth 2 жыл бұрын
this has derek smart vibes
@awizor
@awizor 2 жыл бұрын
Track While Scam
@Mark_Point
@Mark_Point 2 жыл бұрын
Here's hoping it doesn't drop all it's contacts and go silent. 🤞
@ATP-Flo
@ATP-Flo 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts: Will suck, they have no clue at all. They see the success of DCS and want a piece of the cake. I'll stick with DCS.
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, TWS was started because they were frustrated by DCS
@herisson15
@herisson15 2 жыл бұрын
I thought (hoping that) Jabs was back to bash ED's new AI system... I was wrong, unfortunately.
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch lol
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jabbers Guess there's something else to bash now :D
@stephanejulien116
@stephanejulien116 Жыл бұрын
If i'm not wrong....they sell for 995$ or 1895$... who will really buy it ? DCS is free....my thought. It seems very nice but very pricey
@DaWu
@DaWu 2 жыл бұрын
If it smells like a scam it is a scam
@kipchickensout
@kipchickensout Жыл бұрын
The flight models looked physicsn't
@alistairmartins6970
@alistairmartins6970 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the developers were from a Third World Country lol people would slam them all over now since we have a white guy voice speaking we are giving support...DCS player here...
@Scoobz187
@Scoobz187 2 жыл бұрын
I smell scam
@ttpechon2535
@ttpechon2535 2 жыл бұрын
I was excited for this game, but after what you all said, I doubt its gonna go anywhere.
@BrotherBloat
@BrotherBloat 2 жыл бұрын
This game as well as the company behind it looks like an obvious VC funding scam
@cutlass6332
@cutlass6332 2 жыл бұрын
Bit of debate about this one, what with selling skins. High levels of caution activated. Removed my original tweet as I'm very skeptical atm. Seems too close to the announcement by Unreal that UE5 could power the next gen of flightsims.
@iammrmech7650
@iammrmech7650 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even care if they can deliver on promises on time, as long as the game is persentable to some level, it will be a competition to War Thunder, which will hopefully improve both games (with time). I'm cautiously optimistic, do your best devs!
@sad1989vosoli
@sad1989vosoli 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is exactly what I am saying !!!
@retrofly9
@retrofly9 2 жыл бұрын
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 2 жыл бұрын
Totally. Still wondering why there's no plane with _scamjet_ engines ;)
@KevTCC
@KevTCC 2 жыл бұрын
I think their 90 days ambition is fairly unrealistic.... but that being said the "It's a scam!!!" reaction from so many DCS players seems equally as silly. If it really has onlly been in development for two months then well I will gladly admit to being far to generous with my view of them and their prospects - but I would have to have as much proof of that idea as many want to prove they can do anything.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Our ambition is to release a playable tech demo or alpha in that 90 day period to show what we've built so far. Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion.
@KevTCC
@KevTCC 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame I will be watching closely. Hoping you can do it.
@alexalson7165
@alexalson7165 2 жыл бұрын
I make this comment as an anonymous ex-member of the war server (people producing the game). During the many months of knowing the members of the war server i found many to be childish and lacking any knowledge or skill in creating or developing anything. The game itself is only a concept and idea. I have seen development that they have completed in the unity engine and the entirety of development is simple modeling and non functioning projectiles. The promised aircraft and vehicles of this game are highly classified and will not be simulation or even arcade quality. I truly believe this game deserves a different name "Track while Scam"
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 2 жыл бұрын
Honest they are riding their own hype train of doom atm, they need to stop doing any publicity and focus on making a real game, and when it's close to having a real alpha or beta then stir the pot again. With them not clarifying that it won't be full fidelity on their site, but putting out documentation about how it's just gamified rng it's totally contradicting and comes off like a scam even more.
@alexalson7165
@alexalson7165 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jabbers i assure you the last i saw before cutting ties with the community was a lack of working vehicles, a lack of aircraft and a lack of general movement mechanics. The only terrain mapping ive seen looks like a basic testing range. The idea of a full world modeling is obscene, not even microsoft got it to look good with msfs and they have almost unlimited budget and they worked on the game with a full dev team for many years
@SteveSurgenor
@SteveSurgenor 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's very good reasons why War Thunder, DCS and ARMA are seperate products, they may be in the same genre, but completely different at the same time.
@greenrabbit860
@greenrabbit860 2 жыл бұрын
So its a modern version of WW2 online?
@greyghost3497
@greyghost3497 2 жыл бұрын
TWS: the Fyre Festival of gaming
@_danireds
@_danireds Жыл бұрын
This game is a SCAM. Dont let them scam you and laugh at your face. Do an investigation on this company's CEO.
@Jabbers
@Jabbers Жыл бұрын
@g0atmoth already did
@Jerkzilla
@Jerkzilla 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to note that it kinda looks like you wasted your time with that QA, as did every other participant.
@topgun5054
@topgun5054 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Star Citizen 2.0 that will be 'in Alpha stage' for the next decade.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Hang around for a bit for free and watch the updates.
@ray4lsd
@ray4lsd 2 жыл бұрын
Track while scam
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger 2 жыл бұрын
Another VEAO.
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 2 жыл бұрын
:D
@michaelfriscia8166
@michaelfriscia8166 2 жыл бұрын
T.W.S. Track While Scan......Sounds more like it stands for "This Was a Scam" and by the way you're not doing yourself any favors by mentioning Ace combat or or thunder and the word Sim in the same paragraph much less the same sentence. the Sim is not a game there is a difference.
@RunTowardsDanger
@RunTowardsDanger 2 жыл бұрын
So Star Citizen but for Combat Sims. We'll never see a finished product and it'll always cost a fucking fortune to buy into. Yet no real progress will ever be developed. Tech demo at best. Can't wait. Stay out of hoggit with this BS if you buy this demo please. Thanks for bringing this to light Jabbers.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Don't feel obligated to support us financially at all. Hang around for free and watch the development updates roll out.
@RunTowardsDanger
@RunTowardsDanger 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame take some good free PR advice. Waste less time typing responses to KZbin comments, spend more time working on what you claim to be creating.
@masterhighground3677
@masterhighground3677 2 жыл бұрын
100% scam lol
@DannyP159
@DannyP159 2 жыл бұрын
So.. All they've done is combined a load of ue plugins with asset packs. It's nothing, end of.
@henryredbird888
@henryredbird888 Жыл бұрын
Lol, I'll take anything right now, seeing as games like DCS and ARMA are just dying and fading into oblivion. Old Engines. Time for new blood.
@kilianortmann9979
@kilianortmann9979 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe from a team that has some experience building an X-Plane, MSFS or DCS model (or whatever the equivalent is for ground combat). But going in and trying to do everything at once, as a first project, is probably too much.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
We're eating an elephant one bite at a time. Follow along with the development, and you'll find out.
@the15minutegamer
@the15minutegamer 2 жыл бұрын
I hope I'm wrong as it could be an awesome idea but I've had a look through the website, screams scam to me, maybe a pipe dream gone wrong. Plus they say world scale which is just stupid what tech would you they need for that for full world rendering with real cities etc , the amount of organisation you need for world wide scale war would be incredible plus severs if multiplayer.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
We already have the world terrain built. There's a lot more to it than that, but we're working away building. Servers are likely going to be enterprise hosting solutions.
@the15minutegamer
@the15minutegamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame cool 😁 quick response always good. I've book marked the website and going to join the discord to keep up to date with things.
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
@@the15minutegamer We love the support. Thanks for following the project.
@goreoproductions6955
@goreoproductions6955 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there’s no way this ever comes out. Or if it does, it’s going to be really bad
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion.
@zadti2k6
@zadti2k6 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame ugh - this is the kind of stuff we're saying you need to NOT DO. DO NOT copy and paste responses on someone else's YT. There's not need, the net gain is ZERO. Just leave the comment alone. Build your game. Publish when you can.
@princenicholasherrman2347
@princenicholasherrman2347 2 жыл бұрын
8:58 PM 6/8/2022 I dont play Arma anymore but will jump into IL2 Sturmovik here and there. I was wondering if the game devs heard me talking out loud about this. I like IL2 Sturmoviks career mode. They have a tank DLC thats part of the game like War Thunder I think. I dont play War Thunder anymore cus its that bad with all cheating. I said it would be cool to run around in IL2 Sturmovik on the ground while the air battles from IL2 Sturmovik were happening kind of like Arma and you can pick where at on eastern front you want to start with the divisions being supported by the fighter groups in the air those that fly (theres an air campaign going on those who are flying while everyone on the ground is playing capture flag in some big city). Thats what this game is? Try and get VR in it. I would rather use VR headset than track IR while flying. I will even go infantry like that too.
@sgtdevrupesh9106
@sgtdevrupesh9106 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this won’t be next RAW game (it was a scam).
@Bezebut
@Bezebut Жыл бұрын
is the project ded? google cant find their site
@Jabbers
@Jabbers Жыл бұрын
They changed their name 3x now to hide the scam 😂
@SkateZillaSimulations
@SkateZillaSimulations 2 жыл бұрын
Study Sim Fidelity with PS3 Ace Combat 3D Model Accuracy, the Super Hornet shot alone was cringe worthy.
@henryredbird888
@henryredbird888 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like you DCS guys are moving so fast. Didn't most of your team just get drafted by the Russians? I don't see DCS being around much longer.
@kennethellis2666
@kennethellis2666 Жыл бұрын
Last I checked, having VDV/ex-VDV was a matter of pride for the TWS staff. If the rumors are true, it would give ED a leg up on that particular score- you should speak with a little more respect. But then, every new TWS screen and leak reminds me of a spaghetti western: "The Game With No Internally Created Assets"
@SkateZillaSimulations
@SkateZillaSimulations Жыл бұрын
@@henryredbird888 DCS isnt going anywhere, meanwhile TWS is a "never was". Please show some class.
@tangofrown3352
@tangofrown3352 2 жыл бұрын
strange
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 2 жыл бұрын
5:50 Track While Scam... ? :) I'll watch this, but from a safe standoff distance. I mean, they're very ambitious, but how will they be able to deliver something that even remotely could match DCS and ArmA with both projects having decades of work into them and possibly even WT which is around for 'boutta decade as well already? You just don't throw some assets in there, you need hundreds, if not thousands of millions of lines of code - that work. (Il-2 pre-FB already had over 3 million lines in 2001, just to throw a totally random and unrelated number)
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
Very lofty goes, but we're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time. We're looking forward to releasing weekly updates of our development milestones, and tech demos/gameplay sneak peeks as they progress towards completion.
@TacoWrath95
@TacoWrath95 Жыл бұрын
Ali Mahvan is just a high-class scam artist who couldn't even run an Arma server properly.
@elnewbie2611
@elnewbie2611 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh yt classifies this game as war thunder 😂 btw which game is this?
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 2 жыл бұрын
There is no game, that's kinda the point
@elnewbie2611
@elnewbie2611 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jabbers :(
@YouLiNan
@YouLiNan 2 жыл бұрын
3D modèle of aircrafts is Not accurate. Is NO GO for me!
@HighAspect
@HighAspect 2 жыл бұрын
links ?
@Jabbers
@Jabbers 2 жыл бұрын
www.trackwhilescan.com
@generalgrevous1984
@generalgrevous1984 Жыл бұрын
So basically Star Citizen model of perpetual development with no firm strategy. 🤣 That's a hard pass thank you very much.
@CrisURace
@CrisURace 2 жыл бұрын
lol, free to play. I'll disregard it from start. I means impossible grind, and you end up using hundreds of dollars to grind a bit faster. NOPE.. You don't have to buy, yea sure. That's reverse psychology 101. Yo guys, wargaming , gaijin etc ruined it for ya! Got burned and will never touch this kind of crap again!!! Everyone should watch "lets' go whaling" and wake up ;)
@TWSgame
@TWSgame 2 жыл бұрын
We want the game to be accessible for everyone. If you're not interested in the grind you can always make outright purchases of vehicles, kit, aircraft, etc. At this stage, we're still pre-alpha, and way too early to write off. Hang out, ask questions and watch our development updates.
@CrisURace
@CrisURace 2 жыл бұрын
@@TWSgame lmao sure ill pour hudreds of dollar for premium vehicles. =))))))
@jimmydesouza4375
@jimmydesouza4375 2 жыл бұрын
Vaporware.
@henryredbird888
@henryredbird888 Жыл бұрын
Basically, what I see is boomer fanboys desperately trying to quash any competition to their THIRTY YEAR OLD engines. Time to move on, old man.
@Jabbers
@Jabbers Жыл бұрын
I'm all for competition, hell I'm over dcs, but this guy is unrealistic, has no clue and has a history of creating failed start ups. If yiu want to support him, by all means, but I'm pretty sure you are gonna get ripped off.
@danieldorn9989
@danieldorn9989 2 жыл бұрын
Trick Whales Scam
@qthemerrybandofanons4481
@qthemerrybandofanons4481 Жыл бұрын
This is going to be the biggest flop in sim history lol. There is no way it will be anywhere close to DCS.
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