Tractor-Hacking Farmers Take on John Deere

[@freethink]

Should all devices include the right to repair?

[@user-iq7xy8is3f]

Yes for sure, thats what u bought

[@ArthurCheesebag84]

Yes

[@gadget4208]

Of course I fix all my devices myself

[@gremisgrimbleys9224]

Yes, this shouldnt even need to be a question

[@ryaneakin8208]

Yes also Louis Rossman is another who is fighting for the right to repair but on the legal side. Also why do they need this? Why is it that co. Need to control the right to repair? Isn't anti competitive business practices?

[@nicholasamemazior3066]

It makes me sad to see things like this. Once tech was meant to empower people, but now it's meant to limit your potential and dry out your pockets

[@smitajky]

Tech has always been used to control people. Think of parking meters. Coin in the slot type machines. Electronic door access codes. Security cameras. Turnstiles. Speed cameras and redlight cameras. Activating software. Even where it gives the ILLUSION of empowerment there is always an underlying seizure of power. "The velvet prison" I have always described it.

[@albertoginelsalvador2172]

In EU we are fighting for the right to repair! 🇪🇺

[@abhinavmishra0707]

Hope you win.

[@AliBaba-mb1pu]

You should be fighting to bring some democracy to the European union

[@Jonathanatus]

Yes👍

[@tronixfix]

For what? Just repair ur stuff or go to an indipendent repairman

[@bekabeka71]

😂😂😂 this is crazy

[@DarkGT]

Louise Rossman is also in the club of Right to repair, he testify whenever there is hearing on this topic. If you can't do whatever you want with something you have purchase then you it seems that you don't own it at all, Apple or JohnDeere they all look for profit.

[@dertythegrower]

I was coming down here to type my man Louis in the comments, and you got top comment.. allllrighttttt. :sunglasses: His video last night was shared with many high level commercial farmers. John Deere is screwed.

[@dertythegrower]

Subscribed to my man Louis Rossman for the #righttorepair and his rants about big city politics. So good, all his daily rants :)

[@a88pockets]

He's a man, his name is Louis. Louise is the character from Bob's Burgers that wears bunny ears on her head.

[@TheJpsmith1996]

Nobody is forced to buy equipment they cant work on, are they?

[@marvinmartinsYT]

I’ve repaired my apple products though. Real simple job. Apple doesn’t like it but can’t stop it. John deer you can’t repair at all by yourself.

[@x0rZ15t]

And this is why we need Open Source Software and Open Source Hardware. Right to repair should be an inalienable right for all as a freedom of speech or freedom of religion.

[@Lync512]

100%

[@maxpayne2574]

Because you want everything free.

[@davisonwagner902]

@@maxpayne2574 they bought and own the product and are kept from reparing it, how does that lead to them wanting everything to be free?

[@oscarbear1043]

Farmers in the middle of harvest, machine plays up,he calls the dealer, dude turns up hooks up a laptop fixed in 5 min. Then he’s charged 5hrs each way travelling time and lost a days work.

[@davehughesfarm7983]

Thats why I run 20 year old combines..We do all repairs...

[@garyblack8717]

...calls the dealer, dude shows up a week later because it's harvest season and he's got lots of tractors to fix, crop is ruined.

[@chuckfischer7202]

Before unhooking laptop, service guy sets date of next breakdown.

[@maxpayne2574]

Or he hooks up a laptop and uses pirated software downloads ransomware and a hacker holds his $150,000, machine hostage.

[@latemhh5577]

It's one thing if there aren't any parts left on the free market, it's another if manufacturer restricts supply and locks diagnostics and firmware to prevent the owner from fixing stuff they own

[@d.virgallito3490]

I agree with the farmers, they are completely milking them!

[@wadeojohnson2345]

Thank you to all you farmers. Not just for this, but for keeping my family and I fed.

[@catwithabat7163]

It’s sad, because when the Farmall series existed, they designed specifically so that farmers with 1 wrench set could work on their equipment, now your paying 10s of thousands of dollars for repairs that could be done simple

[@waggtech8793]

9/16

[@davehughesfarm7983]

sheer madness prevails..

[@maxpayne2574]

Go back to sitting on an open tractor all day LOL Modern farmers drive their air-conditioned pick up to their air-conditioned tractor push a few buttons the play on the cell phone while the tractor drives itself.

[@look11223]

Support our people vs. institutions

[@dertythegrower]

The corpocracy that has taken over American politicians on the left & right, must fall. We need our democracy and freedom back, Apple and Bigtech are robbing us right in plain sight with all this. Democracy is better than Corpocracy with DNC and GOP corrupting their cores with legal lobbyist bribes.

[@jenniferj6580]

Gladly

[@NathanDudani]

@@dertythegrower what left, there is no left; the false dichotomy is unnecessary

[@farmerjer9339]

That why I own old junk...no hacking, no corporation telling me what to do...just fix it and deal with owning junk

[@cecilforbes3034]

Agreed ,3 wires run a Diesel engine,junk is best

[@MrDanisve]

@@cecilforbes3034 Untill goverment starts heavy taxing it. Which they have to stop the global warming. Guess you will have to degrade to a steam engine run by a boiler, burning wood from your own land :P Or just embrace the tech and take control. First thing i did with my car when i bought it was to hack it, disable some safety features like car disabling video in front while driving. Aswell as the puny 250km/h speed limit etc. Tech is awesome, i get alerted to any police controls near my car when driving. So i can easy avoid them/slow down. Not to mention tech allowing me to experience performance that was pretty much limited too professional drivers/super rich people when i was a kid in the 90s. Goin 0-100 in just above 2 seconds is hella awesome. Old stuff has its charms. Like how its build to last, compared to modern consumer mentality. But its usualy not very effective at its job compared to the newer.

[@johnsalcido5436]

Amen 🙏 I only have one newer tractor with a computer on it and that thing is such a headache to repair. My other junky’s are still going hard and no computer on them and they are so easy to repair for anything

[@davehughesfarm7983]

Yes Sir..We have a whole herd of 40 year old tractors...

[@davehughesfarm7983]

@@MrDanisve Creeping Communism everywhere....Sharpen your swords,...

[@lumpyfishgravy]

"It's legal to tinker with your stuff." Thank-you, lady.

[@latemhh5577]

Farmers: Let us fix stuff we own John Deere: Introducing... Montly Subscriptions Unfortunately, this happens already.

[@jwenting]

and despite what they're claiming here the same is true for cars. That diagnostics software car mechanics use is used by them under a service level agreement with the manufacturer. Which makes perfect sense as the manufacturer sends out regular updates with data for new models, bugfixes, etc. etc. which costs the manufacturer money. Where JD goes wrong IMO is in not making that software available at all to independent shops and operators, only to certified dealers. I have worked in the software industry for going on 25 years, and am constantly surprised and disgusted by the idea that many people seem to have that creating and maintaining software is a zero cost process simply because the distribution happens using some intangible medium like the internet (which btw also costs money to build, maintain, and operate).

[@FerrickOxhide]

The monthly subscription should be in the purchase price, paid for at the point of sale.

[@abhinavmishra0707]

I never thought, it is even possible to stop someone from repairing things they own. Really EU ander USA is at another level of capitalism. Bro here in India, it's impossible for anyone to stop from repairing.

[@anshajkumar6542]

Apple has started in india too bro. Atleast till now companies like john deere havnt gripped the indian market due to Mahindra and others

[@danielclark8036]

It not so much the the right to repair as this say it's the software and leads to diagnose issues. John Deere are not helpful in making service literature readily available £100 per service manual per EACH machine. Potentially 2-6 weeks waiting time for the manuals. And I am in the uk.

[@wotnoturbo]

@@danielclark8036 I paid €1000 for a case excavator workshop manual, a 6 inch stack of paper in a plastic bag !

[@goldman7267]

No one will ever be able to block Indian Jugaad, the ultimate hack

[@bign1667]

It's very simple do the following: 1. Make it allowed by law 2. let the manufacturer charge more for allowing power to the consumer. 3. Watch manufacturers struggle to sell new and forced to reduce their price 4. Were back to the good old days within a matter of 2 years of forcing manufacturers to stop being dicks.

[@TEAMMOTARD]

Nahhh they have plenty of overhead they could bring home less money and reinvest in the company but these c***'s want more and more... they need to learn not to be gready. Thats what needs to happen

[@davehughesfarm7983]

There is a reason why good 40 year old tractors cost 25,000 dollars..

[@ever4437]

I read somewhere that JD has already lost the class action suite for this and now the lawsuit has taken on Case and New Holland?. Thus allowing owners to fix their own equipment.. Auto manufacturers are next, hopefully.

[@elizabethfrohn-hengst296]

Cars and trucks are different you can buy any part yourself and fix them but modern vehicles are so complicated most people can't even change their own spark plugs but we want cars with the features the modern ones have

[@PamL.A.W.]

This country & the big tech just get rich off the hard working people & im tired of it & I will never ever give in to this Bullshit !!! Stay healthy & strong 🙏🏻❤️✌🏼🇺🇸😊

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

Thats how people like Billy Gates got dirty wealthy.

[@CalikL]

3:17 John Deere? That's Caterpillar software

[@gumelini1]

The solution is really simple.Dont buy John Deere tractors,ever!

[@intrax2tv]

Not so simple, cause they are all doing this like in tech apple, lenovo, acer... Cannot buy these anymore and go back to middle ages.?.. Goodluck !

[@gumelini1]

@@intrax2tv there are other brands who don't really do that.Im speaking about tractors

[@ralphchristianson]

If its not red put it back in the shed...

[@greg6500]

Pretty much everything is like this now, Even my coffee machine had DRM. Its very hard to avoid.

[@TakeNoneForTheTeam]

When people give up their rights anywhere, including ironically with youtube, then we all suffer in every way!

[@ws678ta]

I drive 50 and 60 yr old cars/trucks everyday which I repair myself. I will never be held hostage for anything, especially a crooked dealer. Learned everything I know in North Dakota. I support our farmers 100%.

[@player6970]

Electronics do not belong in a Tractor! When you purchase something it is your property!

[@SUPRAMIKE18]

This resulted in a farmer near me getting rid of his brand new John Deere for 1980s New Holland that's never cause him an issue he couldn't fix with a toolbox.

[@martintech2012]

And to address another point... this is not "tractor hacking". This is farmers and independent shops downloading pirated diagnostic software that is freely available on various forums and other sources on the internet. Hardly the definition of "hacking", unless anyone who downloads a pirated version of Photoshop is a "hacker".

[@joe-bloggs.]

I once 'hacked' a computer controlled continuous ice cream freezer. I removed and replaced with manual control.

[@vicariousjohnson9823]

Like voting with your wallet, until people stop buying from companies that do this crap, it won't stop.

[@benjaminbagley4168]

Unfortunately in agriculture that means you cannot buy any equipment because they are all the same.

[@richardschaffling9882]

How do people know the manufacturers don’t put a bug in the software at a certain point the tractor will shut down I’m lucky I use old tractors and only have a small area when you buy something it should be yours

[@Kitsunary]

There's no way of knowing without proving it. It's the same reason why proprietary printer ink is purposely wasted by some printers so you'd be forced to buy more ink.

[@h2835]

Oh. We actually know John Deere has such backdoors in their software. John Deere tractors stolen from Ukraine were remotely deactivated by the manufacturer in Crimea (Russian territory). If JD has it, everyone has it...

[@gregwarner3753]

Like you said run it till it's dead then do a resurrection. Above all remember debt is the farmer's number one enemy. Debt is everyone's number one enemy.

[@dperry19661]

This is an attempt to control alternative fuel sourcing. Its like Howard Hughes never selling a drilling oil rig, just lease them forever.

[@Rotaris1]

"RIGHT TO REPAIR"!!!

[@Chris.Davies]

A really good idea would be to not buy anything made by John Deere - yeah?

[@TEAMMOTARD]

Even better would be an opensource linux os that is better than the original software. That way jd is forced to the right thing.

[@vintageb8]

this creates a whole new industry of service repairmen for those farmers who aren't tech savvy

[@archimedesbird3439]

Now it's not "Learn to Code or Farm" Now it's "Learn to Code to Farm"

[@JoelStenberg]

In Brasil the same fight for the right to repair is raging as well

[@rvadventures]

I'm with you, we purchase the equipment we should have the rights to the software to repair

[@BRM202]

Nebraska could always stop John Deere from doing business in it's state. That might help change their mind.

[@_edd.ie_.o.8101]

2021 the year of changing the system

[@MeteoPluck]

Right now I can't even disassemble my chinese vacuum cleaner without getting it broken, and no any guides anywhere, because the model is only for my country's market.

[@jackrawlinson5476]

what if you demand the sofwere before buying the tractor to closed the deal what wood happing

[@khankhattak.]

agreed, electronics (tractors ,ecars, mobile, laptops, pc) are become more and more closed and fixing is increasingly diificult to the point of non existent

[@dalemanolas5994]

Yeah it's a total scam. Washing machines are designed to have the circuit board fail. The board is in a space without adequate ventilation and right next to the water valves. No circuit diagrams are available and a replacement circuit board costs half the price of a new machine (bill of materials puts the real retail cost at less than $100). I've repaired the board on mine twice now and modified the machine for better ventilation. Just because I hate being scammed like that really.

[@alphafilms_at]

BIG issue and nice Video. Keep up sharing these important topics!

[@flyingturret208thecannon5]

We finally have that first bill to pass, at comment 400. I love this video.

[@Emanuel-jr2ii]

I support right to repair, let that be clear from the start. The only thing I don't understand is: what's keeping someone from starting a new tractor producing company without the locked software? If the problem is that big like the farmers are saying, why do they still buy those tractors? Please, someone explain it to me.

[@Kitsunary]

Availability and efficiency. Just like buying a car, you can only reasonably buy from somewhere nearby and modern machines using software are much more efficient than older tractors at getting the job done. If your only options nearby are machines with software that can't even diagnose the easy to fix problems, then there are really no options since every single problem will require going back to the dealer. A tractor isn't something that can cheaply and easily be shipped long distances.

[@tunintunin3417]

Remember that statement “you will not own anything and you will be happy”… you are there already.

[@vickipeters930]

Now that explains why John Deere stock has gone up over $200 a share since March.....

[@MitchellPetersonJr]

Stop buying John Deere. Buy Case or CAT/Challenger.

[@iainhogg5245]

The core problem is greed, feel so sorry for these farmers...

[@mikeyd5969]

And yet farmers buy how many billions of new equipment each year. Good old 4955 still capable of getting the job done.

[@gregkoenig9200]

4955 was the beginning of using computers

[@davehughesfarm7983]

We have 2- Steiger Panthers and 3-Vesatiles, 2-4430's, 4020, 4440, 4630 and newest is 7820 and 6430...Our 7820 is 15 years old...One Steiger is 45 years old..

[@robertdoell4321]

The common sense of this man is right on point. NO WAY a dealer should be able to extort them for software and technology advice. When you buy something it should be yours Lock stock and barrel. Manufacturers should be required to divulge ALL technology software to the purchaser. IF NOT then they should not be able to incorporate electronics and technology and software BEYOND THE REACH OF BUYERS. CUSTOMERS ARE NOT DEMANDING ALL THIS ELECTRONIC STUFF all they want is equipment they can rely on and fix in the field or their shop.

[@justin8894]

If I was in the upper management or board of a John Deere I would meet with farmers and ask what they want, why and meet in the middle. A concern JD would have is “who is liable/responsible when a hacked piece of JD equipment fails and causes injury?”

[@crazeguy26]

The thing i can't is why not program and set up the tractor to start back up after the issues been fix. I work in auto repair PCM sees the up steam o2 sensor has gotten too slow. set the code and turns the light on. you take in to get fix the person working on it puts a new sensor in the PCM with the light still on retests the sensor. after the sensor passes the OBD2 test 3 times the PCM on it's own turns off the light. GM cars and trucks puts in history after 40 passes it's eases the code.

[@nuruddin1991]

Hacking, tractor, farmers..... That's a rare words to be combine

[@djfmitv]

Another thing that needs to be said is who at John Deer and other companies thought that it was a 'good idea' to make agricultural equipment dependent on computing technology, let alone in every part of the machine. Am pretty certain that most tractors could be built without the need for an onboard computer to control everything, especially given that much of what is required hasn't changed that much since a century ago. Keep It Simple comes to mind

[@LiquidRetro]

Link to the Nebraska bill?

[@goldman7267]

Everyone's a gangsta until the Farmer fires up Shell Terminal on his laptop on the hood of his tractor

[@youtube-handle-are-a-joke]

Same with seeds, now companies are patenting them as their property which makes it illegal to keep some for the next season. Some cars you can't buy, you can only rent them and return them when you want to change. More and more companies are turning to subscription/rent to use their products so the users can pay all during their lifetime. Impossibility to repair or own so they can squeeze every $ out of your pockets, we need to fight this.

[@NathanDudani]

Monsantoooooo

[@PigRipperLAW]

Right to repair! This should be part of public education.

[@sathishr7774]

What if something goes wrong , like safety issue . Who is accountable ? Manufacturer or consumer ?

[@radicalrick9587]

*Oh heck yeah, the court doesn't really do a darn thing, even when the consumers are right. The court moves at a molasses pace, by the time you finally win, the company has already done something else to restrict your ability on something else and you're right back where you started!*

[@Kart0nas]

How can a video get 3k views from a channel with 400k subscribers?

[@dudeduderinoduderino9689]

If you own it AFTER buying it should be within your power or domain to repair it. NO matter what item you bought. Monopolies are for big businesses and should be outlawed.

[@cheegum6296]

Planned Obsolescence is such a beautiful thing

[@smitajky]

Europe has addressed this issue much more than the USA. In the USA the DMCA made it illegal to disassemble software so that you could make something work. Manufacturers leapt onto this and added software to things like ink cartridges so that they couldn't be refilled. This is bad for the consumer and it is bad for the environment. Europe reversed this and said that copyright is null and void to the extent that it is necessary to violate it in order to maintain or supply equipment. There may be weaknesses but Europe is twenty years ahead of the US in this regard.

[@namesname7315]

5:06 - she is holding some I/O part of devise in hand, yet reading about AC-DC power supply module which is not on board :)

[@123Nnoitra]

In conclusion, private property must be abolished

[@biblethumpr2161]

Same with Bobcat, your at the mercy of dealerships that do not have 24 hrs service, do not work weekends or after hrs. and if you complain they will be another day late and ridiculous rates just to show up.

[@roterakaten636]

If I pay 1.2mill for combine. I'm damn sure wanting all the products to fix it included in that price.

[@wmpowell8]

Dustin from Smarter Every Day met a farmer who repairs his own plow if it breaks down

[@MrDrift3887]

He's a hacker!!!

[@wmpowell8]

@@MrDrift3887 he doesn’t repair the software; he uses a wrench and stuff

[@LogicBob]

Look, I have no issue with legislation that tries to enforce something that should already be in effect, but I take issue with "that can only come with legislation". What about an open source competitor? Is the agricultural community not large enough to support such a thing?

[@tlookingfora5336]

Open source, for a manufacturing diagnostics application requires a reference architecture which I am sure JD says is proprietary and/or contains trade secrets. Again, farmers mostly want to be able to either purchase the diagnostic application (which should come as a perpetual license with the tractor) or take it to a mechanic that can purchase or license the diagnostic software.

[@LogicBob]

@@tlookingfora5336 I'm talking about a competitor to JD.

[@tlookingfora5336]

Well sir, open source, in most cases, is a community based software effort (think grass roots), companies may join the effort or may not. And, yes I have some exposure in the arena. Right to repair would typically be more concerned with the diagnostic side of things rather than the entire code base for the target machine (e.g., tractor, combine, etc.). At this point the code for the diagnostic software is under copyright, possibly patent, and licensure contracts (I am assuming the standard purchase contract for the machine in question has a clause addressing the associated software). The license prohibits decompiling, reverse engineering, etc. to protect the intellectual property of the software owner, the rights of licensing, and any/all trade secrets that may be derived from the code. So, an open source project to provide diagnostics, activation of parts, and/or configuration of parts or processes would be a massive undertaking without at the very least a published reference architecture to guide the efforts. I believe that when you purchase the machine, the buyer should be provided with a perpetual license for the diagnostic software and any enhancements, patches, etc. made to that software and that the software should be readily downloadable and must be able to be installed on commodity hardware (laptop, tablet) and there should be no additional cost to the owner. Just my view, and yes this would take about twenty or thirty sentences to ensure in legaleze.

[@dyscea]

Saw a video where medical equipment are going through the same problems. And the same solutions 🥰

[@peterp5099]

Why do they still buy John Deere in the first place? Are they the only manufacturers of farm equipment?

[@reverendfry6088]

This situation is an easy fix. If the companies say they own the software, then make them fix it for free.

[@Grognarthebarb]

They charge you more for it but you never own it

[@bjrnhjjakobsen2174]

JD’s margin on Electronics is +90% - greed at its finest - look at the salary for the CEO

[@2e0txe]

There needs to be an Open Source Tractor!

[@antons8096]

There is one already, Massey Ferguson MF35 and MF135. Parts and service manuals are everywhere.

[@TheGoldisfun]

John Deere is very disrespectful towards our own dedicated hard working farmers.

[@thanos_chourlias9443]

My opinion as someone who has experience in the technological sector is that some things like preventing you from touching the source code or other sensitive parts of the software, they are not trying to get more money from you(only) it is being bone in order to keep you safe from yourself because of the complexity of these applications. Thing about what would have happened if you had control over the entire software and you could tweak it, one wrong parameter in the source code, at the gps modules, the auto steering system and this could end up in a lethal situation, they of course don’t do the best they can but there is a reason for some of the things they do a this is to keep you safe and alive so you can continue be their client. One more thing, referring to my last example, thing now that you survive and of course this is your fault no doubts, you would blame it to the company and as a result you wouldn’t buy anything from them again.

[@memecentral2460]

Makes sense

[@h2835]

My option as someone in the programming sector: This is a load of bull. Nobody ever asked for source code or access to sensitive parts of the software. Everybody ever asked for are the same diagnostic tools, that the dealers have access to. The diagnostic tools, that the manufacturer reportedly made accessable to the users as part of an agreement with the US government so that the Right to Repair bills do not go into effect. Problem is: Those were not, are not, and will not be available for the public until there is a law stating it as a requirement, and a class action lawsuit resulting in the total ban of sales from a manufacturer until said software is publicly available. Mind you: Nobody ever asked for it to be free. A yearly subscription of about 3-400 USD per user should be acceptable, it the software comes with the required connecting hardware.

[@8180634]

A Chinese equipment builder is going to capitalize on this mess and sell models into the market that are easier to fix and maintain, and "good enough" to be worth the price.

[@markfryer9880]

You are spot on the money. All it will take is a "Distruptive Manufacturer" to come along with a few similar products with open source software and the current major players are going to be in deep trouble. Think of where Tesla was just a few years ago and now it's the most valuable car maker in the world.

[@itamars5911]

How can a simple youtube viewer could support the cause of the right to repair?

[@truthseekertruthspeaker]

Let's go #FARMERS#WORLDWIDE WE HAVE TO FIGHT AS ONE

[@shawncalhoun1363]

You buy it you own it, should be able to have it repaired wherever you choose, phone, car, computer, etc

[@woodsandcreek7589]

People are buying older used cars now just to avoid all of these new computer chips in newer cars

[@JohnSmith-lw2bm]

Uh oh. This goes against profits!! Right to repair should be a national law.

[@irreccon]

People make delete kits for cars and trucks, delete kits for a tractors might be a profitable business.

[@noobhacker101]

Apple: Make my day...

[@k0ntography]

CAT did the same thing, proprietary software they wont let customers have access too.. Makes it impossible to clear codes or fix a machine without it.

[@jonthelamb4549]

I want to work at John Deere but I do believe farmers should have the right to repair their own tractors there will always be stuff coming to the shop to keep us busy

[@memecentral2460]

I'm going to tech school in the summer for john deere tech.

[@theunheardprophet4315]

5:21 "What are they gonna do? Kill me twice?" reminds me A LOT of the man who has been stabbed after asking "What are you gonna do? stab me?".

[@oceanmariner]

It's not just John Deere. Even though 3rd party software is available for cars and trucks, it's not always accurate. In most cases the software company has to figure out the system before writing the software and they're not always right. I bought software for my diesel pu, but it sometimes gets the problem wrong. I change a perfectly good part, still have problems until I start changing related electronics. The whole issue or repairing owned equipment needs to be overhauled.

[@b01tact10n]

That's why my uncle's handed down running FARMALL is the best equipment he's ever gotten PERIOD! New Deere equipment is.....oh well still got the FARMALL!

[@Sivah_Akash]

This isn't specific to tractors tho. Everything today is made or marketed to be disposed of in a year or two. Looking at you phone manufacturers!!

[@freethink]

100%! We actually did a video on that too, including with an engineer who's built a phone made to be user-repairable and upgradable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5updZdnnaujq6c

[@Sivah_Akash]

@@freethink , thanks for sharing.

[@Sivah_Akash]

@@freethink , lol I did watch it when it was published.

[@kuhndj67]

It's not that equipment is so complicated that you need help from your manufacturer to repair it... it's that manufacturers are actively doing things to make it impossible to repair outside of their control. One non-farming example is that owners of new iPhones can't swap out a broken camera because they added a completely UNNECESSARY activation step anytime a new camera is put in the phone... a step that can only be done by "Authorized service". If legislation just prevents manufacturers from adding "authorized repair site only" interlocks on their products like the egregious Apple abuse... that would be enough.

[@cdale93mike29]

Stop buying from john deere or any other manufacturer with that level of proprietary repair software.

[@dogshowish]

If companies want to keep repairing their own equipment just think how much money they make so if you can find a company that lets you fix it you would be better off

[@iraqiaction]

0:55 that music is like drugs.

[@frienddotexe2536]

Do you earn what you purchase? Thats crazy ...

[@robertdoell4321]

People pay to own equipment and that means they should own EVERYTHING and the SoFtware to run the equipment and John Deere and Cat and the rest better wise up quick.

[@AJxxxxxxxx]

This is why I miss Analog, digital technology has scammed us all

[@guytech7310]

The best solution is simply avoid buy JD products. There are other tractor manufacturers. When JD sales nose dive they change their tune, or go out of business.

[@mnmdisney]

Not sure about all states, in California messing with the environmental impacting parts of the machine is one of the things trying to be controlled.