A collection of prototypes found across the internet. If any of this information is wrong then please to let me know in the comments.
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@jonk01865 жыл бұрын
The Challenger was painted in Claas-Colors because Caterpillar used to work together with Claas befor they sold Challenger to AGCO. Back then Challenger tractors were painted in Claas-Colors and sold under the name Claas in Europa and the Claas Lexion combines were painted in Challenger-Colors and sold under the name Challenger in Northamarica.
@dirt_and_diesel5 жыл бұрын
You are correct, but not for the one in the video. The Claas/Cat partnership was before the release of that particular model. The one in the video was never released as it was a later model than any Claas Challenger tractor available
@jagman98065 жыл бұрын
The challenger combine has nothing to do with the Lexion.
@coltoncarpenter37905 жыл бұрын
@@jagman9806 at one point they did. Ive seen 3 cat yellow combines with all three logos and brand names in different place between 3 year models. They are some confusing trademark changes.
@MarkaryansChain5 жыл бұрын
@@jagman9806 Google: Cat Lexion Some years ago Claas and Cat/Challanger worked together. It didn't work out because Cat insisted on Claas having Cat motors in their European combines and that didn't set well with the European market, so they ended it. Claas is still using the Cat colors though and it's basically a matter of americans recognizing those colors rather than the Green/White/Red colors they use in the rest of the world.
@fritzfragemann81875 жыл бұрын
in the fs 19 its the same with fend and challenger if you look at the fact sheets both look actually the same
@robertheinkel62255 жыл бұрын
The IH 2+2 was a great tractor once you got used to the length of the hood. I think it was 17 feet from the cab to the front of the hood. It would actually out turn a conventional tractor. Driving it at speed, on the road, was a challenge, due to how sensative the steering was. Bringing one into the shop was unique, because the radiator fan would blow forward, blowing any loose papers off the work benches.
@lukestrawwalker5 жыл бұрын
That long nose is what earned them the nickname "the anteater"... LOL:) My seed/chemical/fertilizer guy years ago farmed several hundred acres with 2 IH 2+2's... a 2388 and a 2588... He swore by them. Later! OL J R :)
@super69545 жыл бұрын
@@lukestrawwalker In Canada They are also known as Snoopys for the same reason.
@super69545 жыл бұрын
@ Robert Heinkel They are an interesting tractor to put a clutch in to, I did one for a customer in a dealership I worked in years ago here in Canada. The old IH dealer in town still had the big splitting track that bolted to the front. Then I had to pull a drive shaft and yoke at the pivot somewhere, and fit a 3/4 drive socket and wind the front forward and back again when I put it together. It was the one and only time I fixed one, but that splitting method was cool. They had a wrecking yard to and we parted some out when guys broke the front axle castings in half bouncing them on the road or in the field when not ballasted right being front heavy . There was a few went to the U.K, the biggest problem was small roads there, so they cut the axle stubs down for width and ran singles. Also if you pulled out of a field gateway onto the narrow roads there with poor visibility. you probably got hit buy a car or big truck before you could see it from the cab, or got a loud horn blast from angry road users if you were really lucky !.
@kevindircksen1815 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 6388 2+2, alot ov guys complained and didn't like the anteaters, personally, I loved mine, if I ever get the right opportunity, I will buy another one. I miss ole' "snoopy". That tractor would go through anything.
@saibot89165 жыл бұрын
Actually caterpillars where sold a bunch of years in claas colours in Europe, in exchange claas combines where marketed as CAT in north America
@dirt_and_diesel5 жыл бұрын
That's true, we have driven a Claas Challenger in the past, but not the model in the video, it was never released. The partnership dissolved before Cat released that model. If you look at the Claas ones online, they have a different cab and bodywork.
@c_games56654 жыл бұрын
Dirt & Diesel we have the challenger form of that tractor at my farm, which is the Challenger MT700c series, from 2009. I find it odd that the tractor was made by AGCO, and I wonder why that Claas tried making relations even after Challenger was bought by AGCO.
@donaldellis36092 жыл бұрын
Yea in caterpillar colours also many moons ago ford USA had a deal with claas selling the combines in ford blue.
@nitch48635 жыл бұрын
0:45 It actually isn’t meant to be a prototype. It is actually a concept tractor
@davek620205 жыл бұрын
Right, so the same thing then..
@davids.98345 жыл бұрын
One thing is for sure.... Autonomous tractors are going to be the future, at least in wide open fields.
@nitch48635 жыл бұрын
Dave K Actually they aren’t the same thing
@nitch48635 жыл бұрын
Dave K “concept is an understanding retained in the mind, from experience, reasoning and/or imagination; a generalization (generic, basic form), or abstraction (mental impression), of a particular set of instances or occurrences (specific, though different, recorded manifestations of the concept) while prototype is an original object or form which is a basis for other objects, forms, or for its models and generalizations.”
@nitch48635 жыл бұрын
david s. Yeah, I’m afraid to see where the farmers will be at in the future though. Everything will be autonomous so there won’t be any conventional farms anymore
@TheRanger0ne Жыл бұрын
I was a research and development engineer on the Claas-Caterpillar joint venture.
@coltoncarpenter37905 жыл бұрын
Should mentioned the Allis Chalmers 8095 prototypes that disappeared during testing and sold to local farmers when deutz took over. Still being farmed with aswell.
@c4lv1n266 жыл бұрын
the cab on the xerion (the one referred to have been built by lego) has the cab off of the claas jaguar 600 series foragers.
@MarkaryansChain5 жыл бұрын
Nice list, but I really miss the Fendt Trisix. That's one strange tractor!
@shanemurphy2776 жыл бұрын
We had a same buffalo on tracks for the bog before we sold it
@GeorgeSaunders5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, quite a few machines there I've never seen, we'll done!
@johnw34435 жыл бұрын
Hullo Mr Saunders :)
@augustreil5 жыл бұрын
The Millennium Farmer is using a Challenger and it works perfect. So, the hell with your assessments.
@chadjustice85605 жыл бұрын
Its brand new so i would hope it works perfect
@ciandaly73625 жыл бұрын
The cvts go in them after 10k hours and it costs 20k for a new one
@dirtthunder16385 жыл бұрын
The CVT was not offered till 2018 in the tracked models. 16 speed power shift was the only tranz offered before that.@@ciandaly7362
@martinburgherr7545 жыл бұрын
Ho is the Deutz xxl with 600 ps und 8 weels
@perrywade37285 жыл бұрын
The John Deere looks to be an early protype of a 6030 with some styling from the WA series. The 6030 although off the line was 175 hp turboed many where turned up to 200+ hp an being that they was manufactured between '72 an '77 they were a true work horse even by today standards.
@agrar_manhartsberg Жыл бұрын
The Caterpillar with Claas livery was for sale in europe they had a cooperation
@MMID3035 жыл бұрын
Nice White tracked machine at the end.
@OldIron19615 жыл бұрын
The first tractor (0:07) is not an early prototype made by Cat, but rather a later prototype built by New Holland after the assembly contract with Cat was drawing to a close. (The contract stipulated that NH was not to offer a competitive product as long as the Cat version was being built at Winnepeg.) Next, (0:26) the Claas version of an early MT700 prototype was simply part of the joint venture between Cat and Claas that still existed at that time. However, shortly afterward, the sale of Challenger to AGCO put an end to the joint venture. At 3:17, the Deere 4955 was indeed made at Cat, and pre-dates the development of the Challenger 45 prototypes. Its purpose was to determine the feasibility of tracks on a rowcrop-sized tractor, and was never intended as a kit to sell (I've actually driven this tractor.)
@tannertaylor94322 жыл бұрын
Another interesting prototype that I found funny was the Allis Chalmers 8070 in Marshall Yellow intended for the British market but AC went bankrupt before the deal finished
@primalrex19055 жыл бұрын
The Challenger prototype in Claas colours was made during a time when Claas and CAT still planned to continue their cooperation. Shortly after they decided to discontinue the relationship and AGCO came in. Rest is history...
@CoalChrome5 жыл бұрын
The Case IH self-driving tractor isn't a never-seen thing, they promoted it very well. It is worth noting that as far as I know, their working on building another. also, it is worth noting that Case IH (Case International) is a sccessor of both the J. I. Case and the International Harvester Co. It is also worth noting that you could actually buy a close to 200 horse tractor from JD in the 70s, the 6030, all that was needed to make the 175 something horse tractor 200 horse was a bigger turbo.
@CoalChrome5 жыл бұрын
Also, that 4955 with tracks still exists, it wasn't actually built like that, that was done later when the tractor was aquired by a university, and the tracks have since been removed and replaced with the stock wheels.
@CoalChrome5 жыл бұрын
It is also a beautiful tractor now.
@Thoroughly_Wet5 жыл бұрын
That first one is a versatile by the brand decal
@tannertaylor94322 жыл бұрын
Some of those track prototypes look like the kind of stuff younger me doodled I'm notebooks back in grade school
@muskel-john91895 жыл бұрын
The vehicle seen on the last photo looks a lot like the tracked Massey Ferguson I saw at Agritechnica back in '99. I guess it's practically the same tractor in different colors. Two years later, Challenger was aquired by AGCO, so there was no more need to develop that machine any further.
@fostoriadistrictrailfan39074 жыл бұрын
3:46 NO photographs please The guy who took it: NOPE
@stmp15 жыл бұрын
The claas tractor was built by cat and claas built combines for cat and painted each other’s colors, I hauled them from the factory
@jamesgallia01475 жыл бұрын
The autonomous tractor is set to be released in 2022
@larry6483 ай бұрын
What about the Cockshutt 580? One still exists. Or maybe the White 4-325? One of those is still around too.
@danielaguirre25165 жыл бұрын
You probably may not know this (but if you do good for you) there’s a video on the JD 4955 with tracks and the owners tell the story on how it was tested and how they restored it back to it having its tires.
@dirt_and_diesel5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Aguirre I did know it was converted back through photos online but I didn’t know there was a video, I’ll check it out. Thanks for the info 👍🏻
Uh the atonamous tractor did in fact work in a field once...
@generationll5 жыл бұрын
The talking about the CaseIH autonomous tractor is Max Armstrong
@janne-tc1zz5 жыл бұрын
That 200 hp JD is huge and looks so cool what was it's model number. I have have seen photos of that, but can't remember it anymore. That 2+2 Magnum looks great also.
@lukestrawwalker5 жыл бұрын
The 2+2 Magnum had me scratching my head-- what's the purpose of an articulation joint in the frame and all the complexity that adds, if you're still gonna have a steering axle in the front?? Doesn't make good sense. Later! OL J R :)
@jhonjhon17405 жыл бұрын
3:43 look at bottom of screen
@c_games56654 жыл бұрын
Thomas The Train Full Episodes lol
@lite49195 жыл бұрын
How can an autonomous tractor make a real time decision in the event of something happening around it or something breaking etc? Does it just stop and send an email to the farmer in his shed or what?
@tf72745 жыл бұрын
The camera lenses on autonomous tractors are going to have to be self cleaning...
@lukestrawwalker5 жыл бұрын
I'll get excited about autonomous tractors when they can refill planter boxes, clean spray nozzles that plug up, refill the planter and sprayer and fertilizer tanks, clean plugged seed tubes, and can figure out when a bearing it out on the disk or a hydraulic line blows or an arbor bolt breaks on a disk gang and can stop BEFORE it scatters the parts over half the county... Til then, what's the use-- unless you're running brand new *everything* breakdowns happen (yes even to the new stuff) and SOMEBODY has to babysit the dang things fixing whatever breaks or is out of adjustment or needs cleaning or refilling... I wouldn't want to farm if I was just a glorified babysitter running around in a pickup between 2-3 fields trying to keep autonomous tractors going, just waiting for the tractor to call you with whatever needs fixing or adjusting or refilling next... If you gotta run around doing all that, might as well just put a cab on the darn thing and get up there and run it... that's most of the fun anyway. Later! OL J R :)
@MustangsTrainsMowers5 жыл бұрын
I had wondered why Case didn’t continue making the 2+2 or a variation of the idea. I wonder why US manufactures don’t make sub compact articulated tractors like several European manufacturers do.
@adamfarrell83035 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing vid I love it ☺
@theunemployedtrucker8 ай бұрын
The 2 wheel drive 200 plus horsepower tractor in JD colors is i think an Australian Chamberlin because they were famous for their 2 wheeldrive monster tractors with upto 360 hp i think .
@bryanpreston27825 жыл бұрын
What about the fendt trisix
@kevingrams33735 жыл бұрын
Actually the New Holland Challenger was a n h proto type yes the challengers were built on the same line but the blue ones were NH with there engine and can there used to be one in the factory in Winnipeg I got the story when I was there for dealer service training
@tjmfarming95845 жыл бұрын
3:55 is that a John Deere 8760 with tracks?????? :O
@blainevolesky96535 жыл бұрын
It sure is
@tjmfarming95845 жыл бұрын
@@blainevolesky9653 wow!!!
@HarrisPropertyMaintenance5 жыл бұрын
0:38 thats an actual tractor not just a 3d model
@jamesgallia01475 жыл бұрын
3:46 case ih released the magnum row trac in 2016
@fritzfragemann81875 жыл бұрын
3:41 no photographs please 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@baiuter5 жыл бұрын
Fendt trisix deutz agro xxl etc etc
@MACHOMISTERYMAN6 жыл бұрын
i was actually looking for some prototype machines when i stumbled across a picture of a 2wd steiger tractor, but unfortunatly i havent been able to find anything about it. maybe if you guys were to do a part 2 it could be featured? anyways a great video as always!
@dirt_and_diesel5 жыл бұрын
I will add this to the plan. Cheers
@dwsmith14295 жыл бұрын
The steiger was an attempt to scare the other tractor manufacturers into believing stieger was gonna build smaller machines. But there were a few high horsepower tactors steiger tested
@coltoncarpenter37905 жыл бұрын
Steiger tested the waters into the high horse rigid frames but scrapped it since not many were interested at the time and tried using it as a marketing tool. Although allis was working on using a 300hp komatsu engine in a stretched 8070. They built a few for testing in Indiana and were unknown by deutz saving them from being scrapped in the take over. All of them still exist bein sokd secretly to local farmers and are still being farmed with surprisingly. Nick named bigfoot by allis.
@TractorPhotography5 жыл бұрын
The no cab case is in the uk
@57fitter5 жыл бұрын
0:55 is Max Armstrong
@c_games56654 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that, cool
@nobodyjones36245 жыл бұрын
Did anyone besides me notice that the first tractor was badges as a versatile not a newholland
@kevingrams33735 жыл бұрын
Yep that was after John Buhler bought the genesis and 4wd line from new Holland after the merger with case IH and resurrected the versatile name
@Kraigthecanadian3 жыл бұрын
I know where one of the newholland tracked tractors are ive seen it with my own eyes and budy has driven and worked on it they had to do a full restoration
@cb78155 жыл бұрын
They skipped numbers coming from 10 down. Not a full length feature by any means. Plus stealing footage from case ih!
@dirt_and_diesel5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your constructive criticism, I do feel like you're focussing on the numbers too much. but still, cheers
@cb78155 жыл бұрын
@Massimo De Grazia It's called copy right infringement, especially on the autonomous case tractor, not your douchey type of trying to defend a Illegal act. But hey, that's what you are into, so please don't piss all over my comment you troll.
@cb78155 жыл бұрын
@@dirt_and_diesel If you put the numbers out there, then back them up! If you ain't got them then he honest and say it. Fukin one more KZbin wanna be spoutin lies and got caught. Your embarrassing as a you tuber wanna be. Save face and dont steal anymore content and since you obviously can't count, please go to school and learn. I really feel bad for you. Dueces!
@dirt_and_diesel5 жыл бұрын
C B how about you chill out, it’s a video from an amateur KZbinr who’s just trying to get started. I don’t see you creating anything useful. Also, it’s called press release material, it was put out by Case IH for this exact purpose. If you can’t be nice about it, please stay off my channel
@farmingboysYT5 жыл бұрын
that case have made it
@MoldyWormStudios5 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with driving vehicles yourself! Driverless cars and now tractors as well! What is happening to this world?
@thedeadlinger69925 жыл бұрын
Whoever took that low resolution photo of that CASE at 3:43 deserves to be in prison.
@dirt_and_diesel5 жыл бұрын
Do not take photo *takes a photo*
@Shitphototaker695 жыл бұрын
can you please talk more about the cat BAT tractor
@farmingboysYT5 жыл бұрын
i have seen al it before
@skyetheskyegameryt84675 жыл бұрын
The first one was a versatile not new Holland or cat
@jamesgallia01475 жыл бұрын
New Holland owned versatile back in the 90
@jeffreyhollink9855 жыл бұрын
that was ah new holland 70serie tractor but whit the name of versatile
@Sean-if7rp5 жыл бұрын
jeffrey hollink Ford Genesis series tractor (70series) not New Holland or versatile although labelled as that at times
@jeffreyhollink9855 жыл бұрын
@@Sean-if7rp omg ford dusent hafe ah A serie onley the normal 70 serie but nh had both
@Sean-if7rp5 жыл бұрын
jeffrey hollink It was a Ford design that was brought over to CNH and used in the NH brand with the 8070A series then Versatile/Buhler took over that design
@fcttmemes23725 жыл бұрын
Who else felt they where watching deano with the music
@GeorgeSaunders5 жыл бұрын
Yes good ol' deanos porno music!
@fcttmemes23725 жыл бұрын
George Saunders Jesus George you answerd out of all people man that’s made my day
@paulineshaffer1565 жыл бұрын
Um dude that is a John Deere Im a John Deere i can tell what is a John Deere and what isn't just saying
@Ole_CornPop3 жыл бұрын
What type of John Deere are you, I'd guess a 1972 1020.
@altestic24465 жыл бұрын
What a bunch of junk!
@jaydenweise78095 жыл бұрын
I have lost all respect for case now you will never see me with one of them pieces of crap rather go up and down the roads myself if you were true farmer you would understand what I mean