Tractor Tune Up Didn't go Well - Allis Chalmers D17

[@brenterickson1695]

$200.00 in parts is alot cheaper than a new tractor payment plus the knowledge you learned.....priceless...Nice job.

[@tonygough8713]

Good job Evan, I admire you for taking on this project and not giving up.

[@catheyrestaino5110]

I know nothing about tractors but I enjoyed your journey of repairing it. The smile of success on your face made it worth while.

[@raymondbazant6536]

Great job. I'm 71, I used to go to my Uncle John tractor shop. I can remember as a kid seeing a tractor split apart. Now I know more than I did as a kid.

[@norinamacdonald8644]

Allis Chalmers is a very good tractor the old ones may have trouble but you can still work on it be careful of the new stuff

[@aaronkalahar-_-_-]

Excellent troubleshooting. Thanks for the info!

[@audwindelossantos1839]

I would like to thank you Your efforts do not go in vain God bless you always keep up the good work your doing a great job Perhaps you can let the people know that helpful critiques help everyone but bitter comments help no one

[@RichBurris2]

It's so funny watching you experiment your way through and testing the terms, In the 60's what your doing was a way of life in the country. Really good job.

[@davidcharles3313]

I have same D-17, 10543 hrs. Use non alcohol gas, use lead additive which lubes valves. Check your sentiment bowl screen. My load jet is set between 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 turns. It had to be spark or fuel. Enjoyed your video, brings back a lot of memories. I’m talking to you while watching, check this or that. Get another set of points, once you file them, they burn. Good learning experience for you. Good old tractor. Thanks for sharing.

[@batpherlangkharkrang7976]

Hi.... Evan, thank you for sharing your video homestead 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 🎥👍👍👍

[@halibut1249]

The sweet smell of success!! Always good to know your way around your tractor, so all the extras, maybe not necessary this time, but get you higher up on the learning curve and will help you trouble shoot in the future.

[@Bex-rg8pj]

Good job Evan 👍👍

[@HMSSfrigate12]

I felt your relief when the darn tractor finally started, well done perseverance for sure, good lad

[@pathfindergeorgia1117]

Evan, great video. Love your channel

[@Warny1969]

Thats a good ol tractor.I enjoy watching your videos.

[@rtundlt1]

Good job of hanging in there. Remember, experience is "goof ups" that don't kill you. LOL I appreciate folks who keep the old iron in working shape.

[@vitiller4109]

Oh how I rejoiced when that tractor finally started. Clapped my hands, stamped my feet, danced a jig. Well done.

[@stevenbushnick7745]

Kudos to you for solving the problem.

[@wayofthewordwow7574]

Glad you got it running

[@crslyrn]

Oh the joys & aggravations of working on old equipment. LOL Glad to see you got it going. Stay safe.

[@jerryhill681]

The points problem is quite common today. Also you need to put a little lube on the distributor cam to prevent rapid rubbing block wear. There is a special grease for this. You showed real determination Good Job for a first timer.

[@bethstuart7448]

Glad you got it going. We just spent 20.00 on a seal that doesn't belong on our tiller, even though it was supposed to fit. Lol The at home mechanic struggle is real! Great video.

[@atozrecovery518]

That's awesome. I love tinkering with old stuff. Trying to see if it will ever run. And the naysayers it will never run, trash it. All it needs is some TLC and yes even that gets aggravating every know and again just take a break and come back later and try again. Way cheaper than a new shiny one

[@robertrogish1038]

Our AC model WC had an updraft Zenith carb too from 1939ish. Enjoyed this very much.

[@grpcchurchnortonva.8024]

Nice job !

[@davidking3096]

Brings back memories of my father repairing the carb of our BF Minneapolis Moline on the kitchen table. Every spring he had to change the gasket. He eventually ended up using one of those old cardboard coke containers and it worked.

[@Tonetwisters]

In my mind, it is amazing to me that you can STILL get a carburetor kit for a tractor made in 1959 ... that's incredible. And sooner or later, all those parts you replaced would require replacement anyway ... so you got that done and out of the way. I know this was a frustrating adventure. Just be glad it wasn't a major health issue like some folks have to deal with ...

[@gord9677]

Evan, I'm proud of you. You have no shortage of instenal fortitude! You find a problem and jump right in to fix it. Good job! 🇨🇦

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Good morning Evan and Rebecca, patience is one of your best tools. Searching out the correct way takes patience. The wrong parts get costly. We all have lots of extra parts on hand that don’t fit what we own. In the end you have the tractor running and that’s what matters. Sure glad you were able to save the carburetor and fix the points problem. Both have to be precise and then they work so good. Close only works in horse shoes and hand grenades 🤗. Thanks for sharing with us and glad you came out on top.

[@donmacdonald7758]

Great tractor repair, the mistakes make it a better vid, the more you work on it will make it your best friend and look forward to see you running all those attachments with the old girl.

[@tonyayers1028]

Great job 👍

[@davidpowell4601]

Great job! Way to stick with it and troubleshoot the problems!

[@richardmiller3919]

Well job done!

[@Void9961]

Completing projects like that are very satisfying 🤙

[@fabmaintenance5102]

Again, love the videos and enjoy watching you two working side by side. It's refreshing to see a couple doing what makes you both happy. Keep up the great work and best of luck in the future. Chris from Brenham Texas.

[@brandon_erdman]

I appreciate you taking the time to film everything, even your struggles. I am getting ready to do this on my 1962 A/C D-17 series 3 next weekend after my parts show up.

[@farminnc2007]

Good job, seems like I remember my Grandpa using a small piece of sand paper on the new points before installing them. Looks like you are taking away some useful knowledge from this

[@canuckyank82]

Best video you have made other than the fish videos and.the barn videos. Congratulations! Good work!

[@nautilusshell940]

The carb needle was definitely the problem. The original points probably just needed to be filed down. Lots of new parts are China made junk so use the old parts for as long as you can. Still, you got it running. Great job!

[@nautilusshell940]

Also, be sure to use ethanol free gas and put some stabilizer in it. Cleaning out your gas tank and putting an inline fuel filter and shutoff valve may not be a bad idea.

[@carlthor91]

Generally the old tractors had fuel shutoff and sediment bowl at the tank. Cheers

[@asymptoticsingularity9281]

Me Chinese me play joke me go wee wee in your coke!

[@alphonsotate2982]

Great job nice tractor

[@noocemiller6005]

Hey! You got it to work!! Great job, even if there were some bumps along the way!

[@zarpazzo5430]

Thanks I enjoy your work with the tractor

[@flirjock]

Good job.

[@davidgambler1591]

Save the old coil. Well done 👍

[@henryrodgers3409]

Excellent video . You're a better man than me . There is no way that I would have the patience to do something like that . Changing points . Brings me back to old days when cars had points . I would have used that new axe on the table and let that carb have it . LOL Better yet I'd tell my dad he needs to buy a bigger tractor and I know of someone that would buy his old one . LOL You can hear the rain hitting the steel roofing . It's loud .

[@michaelmason5440]

My first car was a 1964 Chevy Belair. I learned how to tune it up, myself. In Junior high I took small engines, I learned so much. Love watching your video. I never herd o points having a coating, but they might do it now to extend the shelf life.

[@markd1300]

Tractor sounds good. The battery sounds weak even with the charger on it. But look what you accomplished. 1959 was a good year.

[@cousinfester4621]

Agreed on checking the battery. Check your battery cables too. Are the connections pristine clean at both the battery and terminal ends? Take the bolt out where the cable is grounded to the frame. You may need a wire brush on a rotary drillmotor to clean the rust there. Someone may have replaced the cables with an el-cheapo set as well. When you feel like really taking a dare, purchase a cheap timing light and give it a go at checking the timing.

[@rodfair5698]

Well done!!you have bigger ones than I have for even attempting it. Congratulations and thanks for showing us. Rod

[@joedorotik9159]

Happy for you!

[@koabd4351]

one of the best all around tractors you can get , and easy to work on

[@fredhart7904]

Glad you got it running, I have to tune up my old TO35 Ferguson so I feel your pain, Do not know where I heard it or learned it, but somewhere along the road of life, I was told after you install the points, take a thin piece of cardboard, like a part of the box the points come in, drag it between the points, this action cleans some type coating off the point contacts, Again I do not know where I got the information, Good job on getting it running,

[@stevecummings4345]

Thank You for the information on points, I’m having the same problem with my wd.

[@DavidRobinson-mx6cl]

Great job ! Shouldn't need to file all new points yet not a bad idea !!!!! Happy to see you got it going !!!!- i have a d14 that probably needs the same love and attention !!!!! Thanks for the inspiration to get er done !!!!!! Love your channel !!!!!

[@tompowel8454]

I enjoy your videos Evan, Thanks. I grew up in Illinois on 186 acre Farm. I now live in Florida and just bought 28 acres in GA. Going to plant Hay as well. Keep up the great work.

[@macEboy]

Nice sequence of walking us thru the repair steps. "now lets see if that will start" Nope.. now lets try X and Y .. It makes for a great show! Cheers Mac

[@waynek921]

Wow. I really enjoyed the video with the carb and then getting the tractor going That was so cool. Thanks for the tips... great job.

[@aaronvincent7558]

Awesome video that’s no bad looking AC tractor I have watched some of your other videos you are making he homestead look good looking forward to the next video y’all stay safe

[@primus108]

The greater the frustration, the greater the satisfaction when you succeed.

[@darrelfuhrman8217]

Remember that these old gals have solid lifters. Do not forget to set your valves. You should go to Tractor Supply to get an I & T manual for your tractor.

[@notajp]

I&T manuals are the Bible for old tractor owners!

[@margaretpervier8357]

I remember my father using a nail file on points.

[@waynejohnson9855]

that is funny you say that i always remember my grand father saying i need to file the points

[@notajp]

You can actually still buy point files. I’ve bought new ones of fleabay. I believe NAPA (not a sponsor) still carries them.

[@lauriecox6377]

Have run and maintained a WD45 which has the same engine as a D17 for 50 years. ( Tractor was purchased new by my father in 1955 and is still used regularly on my farm.) 9 times out of 10 when it is not running properly or refuses to start the problem is electrical. The coil is where I start as it will fail in damp conditions. I try to keep a spare coil on hand but have got the tractor running by simply removing the coil and warming it a very low heat in my wifes oven. Replacing the ignition wires every 4 or 5 years also helps.

[@williamhager1872]

Excellent video! Thanks for sharing your efforts with all of us.

[@leemoline5408]

Good job working through the points. I gave that up for the electronic ignitions only been disappointing once in the last 18 years.

[@mikemarriam]

Glad you got it running. BTW those new lights look like they are working out well.

[@terryelam7010]

I did exactly what you did. Watched your video and cleaned up my new points. It fired right up. I appreciate the video.

[@geo52041]

You did a great job . I rebuilt a carb from a WC years ago

[@susanorr7535]

Glad you tried to fix it yourself.

[@ashley5619]

You did good you learned from your mistakes that what life is all about. Real good thanks

[@mikenobbe1135]

great job I grew up with two d17 series 4 tractors in fillmore il great tractors

[@RJ1999x]

The series 4 were the holy Grail

[@sammoore3349]

Love the old Allis tractors. We threw a timing light on our D17 and D19 after new plugs and points....made a big difference on how they start. Hit the key and fires right up without grinding the starter. Congrats on your victory.

[@Warrensims318]

Good for you buddy. You always save money when you do it yourself, a little trial and error but, thats with anything!...Nice job.

[@robertmeader4065]

Good job good luck

[@stanherman5604]

I spent a lot of my first 30 years on a tractor with a loader just like that one! Always like the D17' s. Finally got a skid loader it was so much easier and faster to load with.

[@joeford7350]

Good job!

[@yokomzare201]

You did a great job Just the knowledge gained was worth all the work. Karry On. Watch all Your Video's

[@davidhawley3663]

GOOD VIDEO ENJOYED IT

[@cindyjohnson2702]

Points usually need to have contact surfaces cleaned when installed. You need to put some grease on the back side of the rubbing block where it rides on the distributor shaft to prevent wear.

[@wdinns]

non-electrical grease, on the shoe of the points

[@mackrazy09]

Nice job ! Gotta have a tractor runnin

[@leoashrae4199]

You might want to find an old dwell meter. When working on old breaker-point ignition systems, keep in mind that setting the points by gapping with a feeler gauge gives you a starting point. Dwell meters are available at flea markets and yard sales for pretty cheap. I bought my SUN Diagnostic Center, new, back in 1963... no doubt you can find one of those still working for about 1/1,000th of the price I paid. At any rate, once you get your engine running, then set the dwell angle. I'm guessing the spec will be somewhere between 37 to 43 degrees. Then you can set the timing. Take note of the order of the tasks... point gap, dwell, timing. Good luck on your new adventure. In a few years you'll be one of the few who still knows how a carburetor works.

[@millerurbanhomesteading8632]

awesome tool wall in the background in your work shop....

[@Bamaman14k]

Good job, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, replacing the extra parts won't hurt a thing. I'm like you I think it was the carburetor. Great job. Jimmy

[@dylangroff9333]

Wow I never knew how that stupid little spring worked for the needle and float. Now I learned something!

[@pumpkinspicelatte1528]

Sounds really good, but looking like you could use a little bit of exhaust work keep up the good work gr-8 video 🤟

[@pistolpeds]

You'll have a lot less trouble and cost with the Allis Chalmers than you would trying to maintain the mechanicals and wiring on a modern tractor. Service it properly, keep it clean, shed it always and it will probably see you out, old as it is. Col the cornstar's tractors are 30 - 40 years old and look and drive like new. He repairs everything and polishes them every year and they shine !

[@marcerivest6204]

You are doing a pretty good job, whenever you set up your point gap you should run a piece of white paper between the gap with the points closed. What this does it removes any dirt that you're feelers guage may have had. Also try to get the point gap as close as you can. If it off enough the gap can change the ignition timing. Have fun buddy

[@lewisgardner1660]

Enjoyed this video ty

[@antiquecatfishing7068]

D17 sounds great, new subscriber here binge watching your videos, love how you keep things real...keep on keeping,on.

[@jimlong527]

Amen. Just how it happens to all of us.

[@wileycoyotesr8623]

When it didn't start I thought about the difference in rotors. Shows how much I know .. or don't know. :-)

[@ModernMountainLiving]

This just popped up on the same day I broke my 5020 Allis Chalmers. I had just reinforced the from bucket arms. I broke the back left arm then snapped connecting bolts that connect the front axle (4x4) to the block. I'm bummed, but glad to watch your build. Nice

[@RJ1999x]

5020 is a great tractor

[@boathead22000]

Evan, sometimes you buy parts that are new but old stock. points will sometimes get a slight film between where they make contact and need to be cleaned. a little sanding with crokers cloth or a fine file will clean them. never touch the contacts.

[@timgilchrist3065]

AC used 2 different carbs. Marvel was the most common, but when I had an engine fire several years ago, the dealer put a Zenith on as he thought they were better on my 175. Also, last summer I put in 3 different set of points and every one was junk. I switched to electronic and wished I had done it years ago.

[@notajp]

Yep, went thru the same issue on my old Ford backhoe. First with cheap points from the Rural King, then the good ones from NAPA. Finally bought a cheap electronic ignition kit from fleabay and my ignition problems went away...

[@calvary1808farm]

It’s aggravating but you’ll know the old girl well and it’ll make troubleshooting easier down the road. My ‘53 Ford was very reliable but need a carb cleaning every now and then.

[@js-willard4014]

Thank you , I am shocked how few D-17 how to videos there are .

[@ustinman8446]

Next time you're at the parts store get the gallon parts cleaning kit.

[@neilschipper3741]

Attaboy Evan... Persistence pays off, too bad they didn't have that at the tractor parts store.

[@larryfromlincolncountywa3989]

I'm impressed with your attention to detail and the concept of filming everything as you disassemble and rebuild. As for your mistake with the very small needle valve... Its all part of the learning curve(s). In the end I suspect you'll be pleased that you "over engineered" your repair job as you now know what's available, what works and what might need tweaking before its perfect. You done good!! Keep 'er up!! That ole Allis Chalmers will most likely serve you well for some time to come.

[@genewoody7187]

Of all the points I changed on the vehicles I owned prior to 1988, I never had to polish the point contacts. I just installed them and the vehicle started right up.

[@stevemartinez6757]

Great job! I kind of cringed when I saw you working on both the fuel system and the ignition system at the same time (assuming that it would at least start prior to beginning). Believe me, I've made that mistake before. As far as the points, I learned how to change/adjust them at an early age. My first truck (bought when I was just 14 years old) was a 1963 Chevy that had points, carb and a mechanical fuel pump. One of the best things that my father gave me was an actual shop manual (not a Chilton's or Hayne's manual common today) that had all of the information that I needed. Keep in mind, there was no internet or KZbin in the mid 70's so the book is/was all that I had (along with my father's experience to guide me). I learned how everything worked on that truck and did it all myself through my high school years. I would love to find an older model gas tractor to resurrect and use on my property. It can be frustrating working on that older stuff, yet satisfying when you make it work.

[@hvnfun8601]

From an old guy: yes always file new points as some manufactures do put a protective covering on the contacts. If the gap requires 20 thousands - then do 20 thousands. Points wear and the right gap keeps the machine running longer. The carb needed to be disassembled then soaked in a bucket of parts cleaner solution. If you had done this, then blew out all the passages with high air pressure, you screw might not break. Ignition wires - make your own. I get it, you are new and you did get it done. However, this is just the first of many. Get a parts cleaner! As for changing over to 12 volts - do it. Electronic ignition? Pros and cons. Points need cleaning and resetting. Wear they start to wear out, your tractor will start to act up, but won’t quit on you. Electronic ignition works one second, then is dead the next. I prefer the 12 volt system and the electronic ignition, but always carried a new one on the tractor. Strange as it seems, you and your tractor will become friends.