Offset Flail Utter Destruction of Fast Growing Brush. Deere 2038R Ventrac 4520 A Ritter Bit Will Do!

Back at the Tower Project! John Deere 2038R and Maschio Off-Set Flail vs. the Ventrac new 4520 with Tough Cut rotary mower. Jon Ritter from ‪@ritterjon‬ visits Tractor Time with Tim. Flail mower vs. brush hog style mower.
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[@brianr1812]

Two classy fellows. One instructional moment in this video that I appreciated - Jon was talking about hammers vs. knives in the flail mower. Tim responded, "Well I don't have any experience with that." I appreciate that honesty. I'm going to be pondering that for a long time.

[@Kcolby47]

Fun to watch you guys have fun and see both units in action. The units perform admirably. Hard to believe that Vinny’s blades remain in that good of shape over the years. Thanks to all. Blessings.

[@RogerMeinert]

I need to build a KZbin channel popular enough that people come visit me to perform free work in the name of "fun". Thinking about all the hours of work Tim has gotten out of viewers this past year. LOL. Keep up the great work Tim and Ritter Bit Will Do. Love the content both of your publish.

[@ZILAwelds]

Build a boat in your front yard! There was a guy in Oklahoma who build a 75ft steel sail boat in his front yard in 9 years …. (He just finished this year) and he had people from all over the world come out and help him…. He found hundreds is not thousands of people coming out to him and building his boat for him.

[@jimmcknight3021]

Yes Tim and Christy have mastered the Tom Sawyer fence painting method of work. Lol 😆 🤣

[@AdamMuhle]

I was thinking the same thing. Tim could probably charge people much like those adventure places were you can pay to drive a bulldozer or excavator.

[@ZILAwelds]

@@AdamMuhle what a business idea !

[@servihomestead4324]

Yep, haha, Tom Sawyer principle.

[@daveknowshow]

really enjoyed seeing John play on vinny! looks like you guys had a lot of fun hanging out.

[@Wildboyz1987]

It’s great to see you together guys!! Good work here!!🚜👌

[@MJADoingStuff]

Looks like you guys had fun : )

[@stromxtc2033]

"She'll get out of the way", I've trained her well 😉. Welcome to my living room Tim, another new subscriber.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Welcome to our channel!

[@jeffslaven]

I absolutely love this project! Tower Time With Tim! Great video!

[@philsmock4943]

That was fun to watch. Thanks for sharing.

[@terrygroce1594]

Love the mowing project.

[@tinachambers4887]

Hi friends enjoyed this one the ventrac is still my favorite have a day love from TEXAS

[@RockhillfarmYT]

It was fun to see the two of you on video together. John looked great on that green tractor

[@ritterjon]

Thanks Brock, it was a really weird feeling.

[@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri]

I'm here just to see how good that TOUGH CUT looks on the VENTRAC 4520! 😍 I like how he just went into the unknown (toward the end) with the Ventrac! Definitely would have been a FUN brush cutting job! Can't wait to see future vids of the 4520. Have a BLESSED day guys and as always #GodProvides☝

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. Kind of fun to wander out into the jungle!

[@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri]

@@TractorTimewithTim ohhhhh yeah! 😎

[@mgeren]

Potentially the most on point scripture yet! Good to see people working together, and how the a “novice” user can adapt to new equipment.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yea. I think Christy hit a little too close to home on that one!!! :-)

[@GrampysTractor]

Always fun to watch a rookie on a real machine. Tim if you need any mowing done before the snow fly's, you have my number.

[@waynebusse6376]

I'm looking at Peruzzo collection flail mowers that capture the clippings in a hopper so you can use it for mulch and compost.

[@dave.lawrence.3894]

Boy that was fun to watch.. GREAT video

[@68spc]

I have a Peruzzo offset flail and it's an awesome piece. Being able to keep your tractor out of the weeds and see things before you hit them is nice. And for trimming back overgrown brush on trails

[@angus4202]

you should dish the front rims out on the 2038r it will make the ride alot better and give you more stability when using the loader

[@BG-vq9fd]

Another great video with good topic, equipment, and outstanding videographer. I guess those 2 guys were entertaining too. I watch Jon's channel also but my right leg and foot usually start aching by the end.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yea, he picks his leg all the way up to move from forward to reverse. ….and LIKES IT!!

[@ritterjon]

💥 Hey I know that guy! What a fun day this was. Thanks so much for inviting me out to Tim’s Toy Land. 😁👍 *Keep on tractoring!*

[@bjenkins803]

Every tractor needs a brush guard that mows at the same time 😁

[@chriswharton9092]

Oh man. Destruction at a cool level.

[@Harikarikillboy]

Them venttracs are an amazing, all around machine that does a ton of things well. That said, as I get older the less I want to deal with mosquitoes/biting insects, the dirt and debris coving me and honestly, the heat. In south Louisiana those will make ya miserable and I mow acreage, and when I was younger a 72” deck on a Ferris ate it up quick, but I’ll tell ya, kicking that AC on int the John Deere makes it EASY. 10’ batwing, radio jamming (yeah, it’s modified. A lot) and it’s a joy to do. Yeah yeah yeah, costs 3 times what a ventrac does but did I mention it’s got AC? Lol. 95degrees here is much different than 95 in Indiana.

[@charliesperbeck5669]

I’m getting the idea that you shouldn’t even mess with a brush hog unless you are making right trails in the woods

[@jeffreygreen240]

I've found that to mulch leaves in the fall it works much better in reverse.

[@ronaldcamp6757]

I did not know Jon could run a John Deere!

[@conanruisi]

If you go hand dig trees every year then less and less will come up every year and then you can top and sell them. You can leave a couple in the ground and go for a sucker bush if you want to keep the profits. Sucker bushes are great for air layering.

[@jjacres129]

Yup you could’ve had the offset on the Kabota but you made him drive a John Deere good job Tim

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep!!

[@sixosixo]

It looks to me that the flail mowers seem to cut cleaner than a brush hog type mower.

[@brianhillis3701]

Please have the camera lady show more of the discharge rather than the front. Performance is seen at the back end. It looked like some of the autumn olive was mostly pushed over with vinnie.

[@johnseavey6622]

Your rototilling with the offset mower

[@jamesmccracken5400]

I Would love to have the Ventrac i just wonder if they could put the Flail mower on it

[@rickm4938]

Are there any specs on size of tractor needed for the offset flail mowers? not HP but weight of tractor, need to see what my 3038e will handle, as I am in the market for an offset flail, Thanks

[@petenolte4192]

You should have a contest for a mow day

[@davidshipulski4532]

Great video! If you put the original tractor cab on any time soon, could you possibly do a decibel test and or show how loud it is? Just trying to figure if I should get ot cab or Curtis. Thanks Tim!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

OTC is basically no change from no cab. Curtis raises the noise level somewhat.

[@davidshipulski4532]

@@TractorTimewithTim That's great thank you! I guess I can see how the Curtis raises it. Like being inside an egg. Glad I got a 1025r because you know what your talking about 😂 thanks Tim and Christy!

[@brianwoods7569]

Tim, are you missing a lug nut on the 2038 left rear? It may be the video, but it looks like one spot is a little darker than the others.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes.

[@tomkeating65]

There is a fix for the ventrac. Put the flail mower on it. Now available. 🙃😉🙃

[@darrengarlough5121]

I noticed that all these flail mower vidieos show them cutting super low. Is there a reason for that?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

They cut much better when very low

[@georgewelden2507]

Must not be to much kudzu in your area. The flair will catch a runner and roll it up for 50 yards and bog it down. Guessing the Ventrac would be better in that situation. Used a flail mower way back in the early 70's and it was impressive in the right situation,

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No kudzu. Thank the Lord!

[@akbychoice]

Maybe a ventrac with an offset flail mower?

[@lewisblaisdell4962]

WERE CAN I GET THE FLIL MOWER YOU HAVE NO DEALERS SHOW IN THE US.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Agfolks.com use code ttwt for a 5% discount. Have it shipped to your door. …and there are some dealers in the USA.

[@dakillaklown715]

Have you done a full walk around and intro to vinny? I want to know more about it.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We have many episodes about it. The earlier ones a few years ago are more basic. You might find those interesting.

[@dakillaklown715]

@@TractorTimewithTim all the videos aren't answering the 1 main question I have. Does it have a 3pt hitch and pto?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@dakillaklown715 Well, we do answer that...but there are LOTS of videos, I get it. Yes, it has a 3 point hitch. We show it with a landscape rake in one episode. We have also showed it with the Ventrac power bucket on the 3 point hitch. No, it does not have a rear PTO.

[@Chris-jh3tg]

Is that a mower, or tiller? 😁

[@ranger6x660]

I would love to get a off set mower but our Township does our ditches so I don’t have a use for it. That’s what my wife keeps telling me. ☹️

[@t.s.tractorworkstrickland5828]

How come your so wide open throttle ish Tim ? I've been a mechanic all my life and it's never good to be screaming. Is 540 at that high of rpm on them JDs? Thanks for the good videos. I'm not trying to be negative. I love your channel. I just don't understand

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Wide open throttle is just above 540rpm…570 or so. This is how the tractors are meant to be operated. ….such that a small load, pulling the rpm’s down just a bit still maintains the 540 rpm. Spent all my life on tractors. They are meant to be ran wide open throttle. This has been changing recently in the big ag side with the computerized transmissions which work together with engine load to maintain desired speed…but for basic tractors, wide open throttle while running PTO implements is the mfr intended operating approach.

[@t.s.tractorworkstrickland5828]

@@TractorTimewithTim I still love you

[@TractorTimewithTim]

:-)

[@paulkleinschmit9871]

Different mechanic here. Kubota and CaseIH have preached high RPM operations because the emissions equipment need the exhaust heat to operate properly.

[@4-LOW]

Is that flail mowing or tilling? :) Good grief.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. set too low.

[@bigjim5723]

i think our friend Gizmo2 has snuck into ur shop and painted the Ventrac's rims with his famous black paint. i would have to paint them rims ay color other than black to suit me. ha! i guess since it seems everyone now days wants black rims is why they painted them things black, i know u have no control over the color, but pass it along to them, that one of ur viewers don't care for that color.lol

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’m not a fan of the black either. However, as you know, having stuff “blacked out” is all the rage now for the younger folks. Overall, this new 4520 Venny is pretty impressive!

[@shadlundquist2329]

👍👍

[@davemiller3027]

Dose the Flail have Hammers or Y blades? I think a Flail will be my next Big purchase.

[@rebelcitysports1outlook713]

Hammers. If you are cutting anything besides a lawn, I highly recommend the hammers.

[@arthurslife1881]

What size is the flail mower on the 2038r

[@TractorTimewithTim]

55”

[@arthurslife1881]

@@TractorTimewithTim thank you

[@arthurslife1881]

@@TractorTimewithTim could you do a video on how to take off and install the 2038r backhoe

[@larryiowatexasrooster9317]

👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🙏🏻

[@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin]

First

[@Shane_O.5158]

that ventrac mower deck must be the best arrangement i have seen, the spindles are protected with a big steel ring., the underside of deck is clean, the blades are straight.

[@troyeager8877]

I really like seeing all the channels I watch hanging out together once in a while. Very entertaining. Thank you Tim, Kristy and John.

[@photocontrol]

The flail mower does a very nice job, the offset is great for edges and ditch banks for sure!

[@bartonmd]

Yeah, to really kill Autumn olive, you have to cut it short and spray Tordon on the stumps.

[@RCPSU4]

I bet Jon will get a Ventrac after seeing him have all of this fun. To see how much that brush grew in a year is mind blowing.

[@glenbreaks5448]

The beauty of the Ventrac is that it puts one back into a go-cart, can't beat that for fun. It happens to be useful as well!

[@ncrpejxi]

Flail does a better job

[@DLTJR1959]

Flails are great in the right application but expensive when compared to a brush hog. I think of them as a hybrid between brush hog and finish mower. Great video again Tim. Thanks.

[@cashlance4863]

Good times

[@AdamMuhle]

"it's different than the treadle peddle" Pretty sure he means 'better', but you'll never get a Kubota owner to admit it. :-)

[@ohman3500]

I think the JD and the Kubota are the same.

[@Mrbink01]

@@ohman3500 no, Kubota uses a single treadle pedal, John Deere uses two separate pedals for the HST

[@watershedoverlook]

Love it when my KZbin worlds collide! Jon, Tim, Christy...it's a tractor party! (Needed a bit more Orange, but still...😉)

[@RhettLyons-e3y]

Great seeing Jon with you. I watched a lot of his videos (as well as yours of course) using his Flail Mower. I just bought the Frontier FL 1053. It's being installed right now. Along with my Frontier AV20F Grapple & front Hydraulics. Thanks for all the information each of you provide. Very helpful with my new toy (Jon Deere 1023E).

[@bryanadams2793]

The finish produced by the flail is second to none in brush like that. Very satisfying video! Oh and Tim, you remind me of Randy off of Trailer Park Boys. The fact you like burgers as much as Randy was the icing. Lol

[@joshguard9834]

Thank you gentlemen. I started watching the both of you when I was thinking about a tractor. I've been drooling over that offset flail for a bit now. Got the wife to commit to buying one in the spring to put behind our LX2610SU here in SE MN. Thanks again for the great vids! I guess I should say Thank you Lady and Gentlemen.

[@joetterolison4093]

Hi Tim You look like a TV star on My 65" Vizio I finally figured out how to get the APP The only draw back is no way for thumbs Up or comments Ken in Florida

[@jasonhuhare]

The green mower cut the grass well, but the driver always had to turn his head backward to saw the back and I think that it is too tired to do that.

[@ZILAwelds]

0:44 nice tiller you got there😂 This attachment double functions as a mower and a tiller 🤣🤣

[@CapeAnnImages]

That offset flail is awesome! At first I thought it was acting more like a tiller then realized the light made it look like it was digging in the dirt. That copper wire you tangled up with was probably discarded by the antenna contractor. Each guy cable should be grounded thru the anchor itself. I used to work on them climbing up to the top at times back when I was much younger and fearless! Now my knees wobble when I climb a ladder! Best Regards, Jay

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Each of these has a separate copper ground probe. …well, except for this one now :-)

[@schmatzek1]

Way to fast..🙈

[@alexsturz3960]

What is all the Hydraulics that you added to your 2038r that did not come from factory ?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

two rear SCV's. These are optional from Deere.

[@tylerstanley7775]

I think you are missing a lug nut on the left rear ……

[@TractorTimewithTim]

yep

[@countrycaretakerpropertyse7981]

Dang Tim that flail paired with the 2038 really is a great match!

[@RockIslandProject]

Mornin Tim, love the content! Question: did AgFolks assemble the flail for you, mine came in pieces (looks like the original crate from Italy 😆)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Interesting. Mine was assembled. Mine came straight from the company. Does the assembly process look difficult?

[@RockIslandProject]

@@TractorTimewithTim umm, well with zero experience and this being my first pto driven attachment - let’s just say it’s a marginally intimidating.

[@servihomestead4324]

The flail mower cuts so nicely! I need a Ventrac!

[@dsdda4]

These guys are BOTH awesome and informative!!! Good to see you guys together. I enjoy having you guys teach me a lot, so I don’t make so many mistakes! Thank you!

[@Akcd11r2002]

GET THAT WIRE REPLACED. You don't want a lightning strike to burn through the guy wire and take down the tower while its waiting to find a path to ground.

[@rdavidson00555]

Enjoy all of guys doing collaborations it is fun to watch..Subscribe to all of you guys. Have you guys ever decided to get all together somewhere and do a round table of sorts ?

[@jpocketrocket]

Love the video's , would love to see the ventrac with the flail mower and the Deere with the off set mower and see how it does, I saw a different video on another youtube video cutting high thick grass and it did very well. thanks for all the fun ,enjoy so much, You to Christy. God Bless

[@MrCharger70rt]

Bought a 78 inch offset from nova tractor this year to run on my 2018 new holland powerstar 65. Love it.

[@butchmaster5757]

First! Thank you for all the great content and informative demonstrations.

[@cerberus2881]

Tim goes after the brush the way I have, you just have to dive in to see what's what.

[@billfenner7084]

Remember that he has two different colored ones.

[@franklackie2469]

This mower is much better on the u joints than a tow behind brush hog

[@orgeirjonsson3014]

I was afraid you'd get lost in there Tim :D

[@gtroxlar8597]

Another great video Tim.

[@peanutsmith1462]

Lol he was like a kid in a candy store 👍

[@jamesdrumwright7591]

Hey, I volunteer to help mow!

[@flyxingu]

Misuse & Abuse 14:09 🤔?

[@brucep9123]

Tim, Could we see a lawn massively covered with leaves and then see the aftermath when a flail mower is used to "Mulch them up"! The flail mower does great with brush and grass, what does it do with leaves?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good idea!

[@jddriver9565]

I would love to see the 5E with the big brush mulcher....is that even possible or has the 5E to much PTO power´?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We use a different mulcher on it. Cat 2 hitch.

[@robertwilson9012]

Tim !!!! Ventrac has a flail mower attachment !!!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep.

[@fullers1966]

Hey Tim how long have you actually been at the tower site seems like yesterday you started there

[@TractorTimewithTim]

2 seasons. 1.5 years or so.

[@fabioforni5722]

Great video can you do a video that focuses on hay balors that dont require high pto hp

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Have two. One recently. One last summer.

[@noelcahill6707]

If toro put a pto on vinnie u could use the flail on it a rear pto should be a option

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No, rear PTO not available.

[@truckerray7533]

the flail mower looks like it disturbs a very thin layer of the soil. is this good for growth for the next round of mowing??? ive never used one before. take care & God bless!!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I have it set too low.

[@truckerray7533]

@@TractorTimewithTim Okie dokie. Thankya for the reply back. Now this isn't something that a guy would use on his regular lawn around the house. . . . right???

[@geraldhaury4199]

You really need to plaster pictures of Mr. Ritter on the John Deere all over the internet!!! 😆 🤣 😂

[@ritterjon]

Hey now Gerald, 😂😂 That would get quite the reaction. *Keep on tractoring!*

[@geraldhaury4199]

We love you too...... Just have to give you a hard time!

[@mattphillips4260]

would like to try a fail mower on my tractor i do not have the scv like you so it would need to go with the one that does not need them what i am looking for is how it compares to my 4 ft rotery on hyd and horse power needs

[@TractorTimewithTim]

1025r? Or do you have RK?

[@mattphillips4260]

@@TractorTimewithTim i have a ym 1510d gray market tractor if it was to be a deere it would be someplace in the 600 to 700 area what is crazy is it has some jd green and yellow paint on it and matches perfect i have even bought a few jd parts at local dealers and fit perfect not sure where to stand on this

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I run 61” Maschio fixed flail on the 1025r. You should be able to handle that I would think.

[@mattphillips4260]

@@TractorTimewithTim before i went the fail mower way i would like to test one not sure where i could get a try before i buy on one going to wait till next spring and do some looking for one