TradeSkillMaster 4 Noob's Guide | Set-Up, Gold Making and BFA Groups

[@neildoerdan2298]

TSM and apps like it, is one of the main reasons that new enchants are selling at under cost. People are posting at a loss and not realising (or caring!) Great to see you have included the BFA enchants are currently making no money as so many are bulk selling under cost!

[@cat.s.270]

I've been using TSM forever now, and I still learned something here! Thank you :)

[@reikoxan]

going over the instalation makes this the best tsm tutorial alone.

[@maurmair]

Awyeah, thanks for updating your groups!

[@BinPac666]

Great guide to start with TSM 4 I am still a very nood when it comes to gold making and working for TSM, this will help me out lots I think in the long run. and thanks to you I made my first ever flip on the AH a bid ago, bought a BOE for 42k and resold it for 80k. I did buy another at the same time, bought that for 37k but it did not sell and now the price of it went down to under 20k but alteast I can give it to an alt when it hits 120

[@insang5277]

For those having a problem with the import, if you don't see them in your groups, it's because you imported them into another one, before you import a file, make sure to select "Base Group" at the top, you won't have any import problems

[@genemorse4342]

Breg, Thanks for the great video. I just finished importing your paste bin groups. I noticed that Alchemy didn't have any of the BFA stuff in it. Oversight or intentional? Thanks.

[@metal995]

Totally new to gold making and stuff so I tried to import your groups. I keep getting a bunch of errors and things like Alchemy look like they're completely missing BFA. I tried looking for other people's stuff but I really liked how you had it organized. Not sure if you can export your current one but being new to this I'd appreciate it a lot!!

[@Love_OPX]

I'm an old school player, from the Vanilla WoW days. Back then I loved using Auctioneer for the simple fact that you 'd scan the AH several times a day over a period of time (say a month) to get your database going, after which you could search for items that were being sold way below the actual value. I loved finding items that cost just a few gold and I'd sell them for hundreds. I haven't figured out if TSM can do this. Does anyone happen to know? Your clarification would be greatly appreciated.

[@ElKronus13]

I cant post anything! I've coppied your Flip Group:BFA, but when i try auctioning, its says " item/group is invalid ( see chat ) and then, on chat it says: " TradeskillMaster: Did not post [ ITEM ] because your minimum price (max (100%dbmarket, 110%avgbuy)) is invalid. Check your settings. " PLEASE HELP

[@Guguinha30]

Hi Berg, need help here, when i post items ( run post scan ) only recognize 3 of the 10 different items that i have in the beg. I did everything like you did ( i copy all yours groups ) any idea hot to fix it ? in the operation type only appears #default ( if that helps )

[@studleymanhorse3042]

Yo Breg, are your groups stil relevent now? Obviously the market changes, are you updating things or do we need something more recent???

[@YouLikeBosch]

My xmog items are not really posting properly. If they're not undercutting anything, they're posting at exorbitant, inflated prices for some reason (and they're not the only postings on AH) - and then some of the undercuts are not actually undercutting. There will be items with min buyouts of 90g and my items are "posting at normal price" for several thousand gold. I'm missing something and I can't seem to fix it. I've tried auctionator and auctionfaster. They both seem to ignore the fact that there are items posted already at lower prices, and instead of TSM telling me that the price is too low (and will not post at this time), it tries to post at normal pricing. Any ideas?

[@kristinsearight3813]

Love the videos. The only thing I HATE is when Bellular comes after when I have on auto play. You are so quiet so I turn the volume up and then Bellular deafens me haha. I need to set up TSM.

[@frostysauce8296]

bwAAAHHHHHHHHHHH BUM BUM BUM (BAH BAH BAH)

[@KristsGaMeS]

Hello For some reason when I click on shopping and do a RUN SHOPPING SCAN nothing pops up? why ?

[@ZazuriUrimaki]

The alchemy group is only up to legion and does not include BFA Alchemy. Just wanted to give you heads up

[@BladeJaxx]

Thank you so much for the updated paste bin been waiting for this so long sir!

[@redrabbit8059]

only 4 groups worked for me. when i am on the shopping tab, i dont see any expand on the group. what am i doing wrong?

[@redrabbit8059]

@Breg there are a few of us who have this problem. Can you please let us know what we're doing wrong and how to fix this? Thank you!

[@Rompelstaump]

@@redrabbit8059 - Did you ever get the answer? Does Bregg host a discord? You might have better luck reaching out through multiple platforms

[@redrabbit8059]

@@Rompelstaump nope, no answer

[@Rompelstaump]

@@redrabbit8059 - Have you tried to start from scratch? Maybe learn how to make your own groups/operations/functions/etc? Check out the other guides on youtube, then add the content creators on social media like twitter/ facebook/ etc. You may be able to ask them for advice directly. KZbin comments usually get ignored after a certain time period. On the other hand, there are tons of wow discord channels dedicated to gold making and TSM learning. Have you seen WTB gold's video on TSM4 (hint: they mentioned a discord server where people can go with questions) I am not very well versed in TSM or gold making. I am assimilating many different resources to get a complete understanding of the tools and methods used by the most successful gold makers. If they can make billions, then I think I could start by making hundreds or thousands. I can only improve from this point considering I basically know nothing about any of this.

[@Rompelstaump]

Operations and groups explained in full detail www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/93hcpw/sheyrahs_transmog_operation_explained/

[@texxlady]

My great deals search button is greyed out and un-clickable, I do have TSM desktop app installed. Any ideas why this is?

[@frelle6100]

Hello Breg! I really hope you can help me. When I try to import your groups and operations, the groups doesn't come with the operations attached to them. I'm not sure how you have set them up, it's a bit hard for me as a beginner.

[@moepskie]

Hey Breg, you said that TSM sorts out the cheapest way to get certain materials (18:53), but I often discover that TSM is skipping certain materials when using the gathering list. For example, pretty much always it's skipping materials such as "lesser essences" (instead of greater essences)or "motes" (instead of primals). So when I'm making enchants and I need dozens of greater essences, the AH skips canning lesser essences, even though they're cheaper and sometimes the only option (because the greater essences are sold out). Any idea why this is? I've got the gathering settings set up like you do. Pretty annoying because it gives the impression sometimes that a certain item is not available on the AH, while it is.

[@akashadxd1390]

I dont understand the part with ur Import/export to get ur grp+ i cant run a Post Scan its greyed out =/

[@august6029]

i noticed on one of the groups for tailoring it said mailing operations and it said send to (forgot the name) so if i mail something or if i post something will it go to that charcater?

[@pedrodasilva1981]

yap, i've seen that to, mail to bregsbank... not good

[@dubm0]

Probably a leftover from his setup. He must have a character called Bregsbank who he mails all cloth drops to. But that won't affect us as long as we are not on the same realm as him. You can just switch the name to one of your own alts or delete that part entirely.

[@GibsonGaming]

Is this still your up to date groups list?

[@zobzebore]

Hello! for some reason my 'great deals search button' is not avaible..i mean i cant click on it! any idea why?

[@p.r.1308]

Great deal search is grey for me and i can not click it. Also when i enter the for searching for iLevel gear, it does find nothing

[@GeekdOut]

Watched this and used the raw data. Followed the basics of his other video showing how to create groups + importing the data. On my groups > base group only jewelcrafting, leatherworking, and tailoring have an arrow to break the group down into their respective folders all the others do not. What did I do wrong?

[@PhotoshopProTutorials]

I imported all the groups but it still leaves some items in my bag as they're ungrouped for some reason, such as windwool cloth? Any ideas? :)

[@noxelohim]

I copied all of your groups etc from pastebin. And when I started trying to auction my things, it would tell me "Maximum amount of items posted" but then I would still have 1k or more of something in my bag. Why wasn't it letting me post them? Also, It's setting all my auctions to 24 hours, there's no master option like in auctionator/auctioneer to set it to 48 and leave it alone and have that saved. And scrolling my mouse wheel up and down doesn't do anything, even though I have the boxes checked for posting/cancelling and then up and down scroll wheel etc.

[@sricharans2165]

Great video. Would love more videos on TSM to help learn it.

[@kevinmyers6201]

it doesnt let me add a realm to my app for my desktop and it doesnt really seem that anyone covers how to do it every video says add realm shows them click a realm then they clip to a new part no one shows where to go to get to the realm for website or app

[@darthenx2585]

So i downloaded everything and installed and imported everything..... and i have no tool tip pricing or anything. I can not post anything either, it says that the item inst compatible to the operation.

[@ElinRaden]

So I watched this video and I still don't really know how to use TSM, how to make groups, what groups are used for, how to search for the items i need, how to post thing with a prize I WANT, what tsm's benefits are and the only thing I remember about it is that "it's pretty easy once I get used to it". How should one get used to it if noody tells you how to use it. How do I make groups? Do groups help monitor certain items I want to be able to? How do I post stuff on a prize I SET! How do I search for specific items?, like rings (tried it, won't work, just bives me all the crap in the AH or nothing at all). Most of what is shown in the video doesn't work or is useless to me. But hey, it's pretty awesome once you get used to it........Apparently, but how would I know. This confused me more than it actually taught me anything.

[@bobsmith4572]

This video is horrible. He keeps saying this or that is self explanatory! No it isn't to a noob with this tool.

[@Makoshark83]

Hey Breg, your tailoring, jewelcrafting & alchemy pastebins don't include BFA.

[@laurathomas9884]

Thanks for the informative video!! I only have one thing slowing me down...under the ops tab for auctioning, I can not get the cap size and stack size to go up at all. I don't want to spend my life selling my stackables one by one. Please help so I can get back to killing things. thankies xxx

[@vic9279]

Breg, you are awesome. Thanks for posting the great videos :).

[@kevinmyers6201]

the scroll up and down macro thing doesnt seem to work for me and why can i only post 1 item at a time? i copied all your groups

[@TrazedGaming]

When i run the scan it comes back with shimmerscales for 12c and winterskiss for 10c, i just put out 3-4 to test and it instantly got baught by people with long strange names like ghonasdasd. Why does tsm do this?

[@SakuraFishy]

I copied your pastebin but no operation was copied just the groups.

[@shalala2235]

bfa flip group not working... even full scan do nothing

[@DarkWolfy41]

i might be just stupid but i can't make head or heels from this video :( i try to set up groups(might done it wrong) and i cant run those kind of scans

[@NorskHiphop]

I can't get TSM working with the auction posting settings anymore. had a break, came back and it doesnt work now. 70% DBMarket etc. anyone?

[@kenw6335]

I added the first 5 or so pastebins successfully, but after that it stopped loading them in. I hit import but they don't show up in the groups. Any idea why?

[@alessandrorinna2779]

same

[@Memoocan]

I ended up having to /reload when I hit that wall myself. Annoying but can still get them in at least

[@blakecody8524]

you sure you made a new group and then selected it and then import?

[@danieljackson7194]

i cant get like battle pets and bfa filipping to work in the shopping tab or the uldir boe one its in the suctioning one but noit the shopping how can i fix it?

[@halsti99]

you said you use both auctioneer and TSM, but when you hover over an item, you only have one tooltip, how did you get rid of the annoying second one thats comming from auctioneer? i cant seem to figur that one out

[@simeongeorgiev9321]

Hello ! Nice video, but im having troubles not being able to search trough some of the specific groups, like for example battlepets that i might want to flip..why ?

[@Quint1975]

Hi, just wondering if this info is still valid for 8.3? I'm thinking of resubbing as I'm locked down and might as well play some wow even if BFA is a pile of old cobblers.

[@runescaperpglover]

i have question and have been looking for over 2 hrs and i wounder if you know the answer i would like to assign a value to the inscription recipe darkmoon card. it should be a simple matter of averaging the value of all possible cards to give a profit EV it should work the same as the mass milling profit calculations which i would also like to fix as TSM says mass miss value is only 13g . i just don't know where i have to go to change that

[@runescaperpglover]

ok i was able to find a way to update mass milling by making a new crafting operation but the dark moon cards are not linked to the crafting recipe

[@Zysslol]

Hey BregVids - love your content - could u explain how you sell the bfa craftables with 300/310 and 223/233 itemlevel variation with tsm ? cant really figure out how to set it up. It was also a problem with the Beemug that dropped from the last evet that was between ilevel 21 and 335 depending on the character level that queued. for me they all try to sell at tthe same price and i cant find an option to include the itemlevel anywhere. thanks in advance

[@Jedi71]

For the Task List, how do you set your Banker toon, i.e. the one you want to buy mats at the AH? Right now it chooses my LW for some reason. Thanks for the vid!

[@Marcarrian]

ive copied your groups now the auctioning and shopping doesnt work anymore when i select a group.. anyone have an idea what could be wrong?

[@pedrodasilva1981]

Im transfering your groups, and i wounder why in tailoring mailing operations there is "send to bregsbank" this send itens to your mail?

[@dubm0]

Probably a leftover from his setup. He must have a character called Bregsbank who he mails all cloth drops to. But that won't affect us as long as we are not on the same realm as him. You can just switch the name to one of your own alts or delete that part entirely.

[@b4g4b3l]

hy breg, 1 question... your groups dont have x200 stacks operations ? i imported all your groups, and it only posts 1 linen 1 cloth etc.

[@coldfish8245]

I added all of the groups, but I can't see the battle pets, transmog, or random stuff groups in the 'shopping' tab on the tsm auction house. any help would be appreciated

[@thegreekgeek7113]

hey you ever figure out why this happened?

[@tobiasbollig6394]

I have an issue, it shows absurdly high prices for low items and postes it at this price, do i have to run a scan with it? i m leveling a charakter and just tried to sell stuff with it the first time. importet all groups and scanned my bag. but 60k gold for a bubbling water is absurdly high :D

[@Poland805]

Breg, I have a question. What happens when there is a constant large discrepancy between Region Market Value and Market Value? It seems like all operations are based off the base market value which sometimes makes it difficult to sell in my region or predict what I should craft for profit from reports. Any help would be appreciated.

[@BregVids]

Poland805 region market value doesn’t really matter it’s just the average across the whole EU or US! So just look at market value and min buyout :)

[@Poland805]

Ah, I thought region referred to the specific cluster or server. Thank you for the clarification. Additionally I enjoy the content immensely, I am attempting to finally delve into this aspect of the game seriously for the first time and I appreciate the insight.

[@ericlhoskinson]

I've been subscribed for quite a while and thank you for the great videos. Now on to the question. End goal is enchanting materials. If I have let's say a leatherworker it Taylor and a few other crafting professions what is the best way to turn cheaper materials into enchanting materials. For example calcified bones or cloth. How do I know if it's worth buying those materials crafting them on that character and then mailing the Boe to be disenchanted?

[@legodoze308]

Nice clear video, didn't understand tsm. now I do. thank you so much

[@typatmont8781]

Thanks for the updated paste bin! I am just having trouble getting the operations to import with the groups. You see the groups will import just fine but I am not getting any operations imported with them. I do have the button clicked below that says include operations. Any help would be much appreciated!

[@typatmont8781]

Update I found a fix. For anyone having the same problem as me in the paste bin make sure you import the RAW Paste Data not the first 1.

[@johnsvensson6446]

Hey Breg, thanks for the video. I am on a full pop server where prices are fairly low, and when using your groups and operations it posts my things (enchants, specifically) at like twice the price of every other posted one. Market value for rare ring enchants seems to be about 3.3k on my server, and it's posting them at above 6k, with little to no hope of ever selling. Any suggestions on what to tweak in your auctioning operation to make it more sensitive to my server rather than the entire region (hopefully without losing touch with that completely)? Thanks for the groups anyway, they will be very handy even if I have to remake the operations. Cheers!

[@ofiuco7732]

what happens when the addon doesnt show sale rate when sniping items?¡

[@davidbeaudoin3208]

Breg i got a little problem here, The macro Wont use the ScrollDown button to cancel auction,its still keep them posting and i did set it up like you,any idea?

[@sethhuntley8538]

How do I paste your bin into my import tab? Like wheres the button that copies your paste bin?

[@TheDodgerwon]

are your groups in pastebin updated? im finding some mats ect arent showing up when i sell

[@diablosmurf]

when I post using tsm my items don't sell... how do these operations look to you guys is something wrong? set min: max(0.25*avg(crafting,dbmarket,dbregionmarketavg),1.5*vendorsell) set max: max(5*avg(crafting,dbmarket,dbregionmarketavg),30*vendorsell) set normal: max(2*avg(crafting,dbmarket,dbregionmarketavg),12*vendorsell)

[@Frioazulito]

I have a question, do you have the crafting settings (Default Material Cost) by default or did you change something? I am having some issues with profits showing correctly besides Expulsom and those others mats and I don't know if it is because of that, or it is because my server sucks

[@mitko1844]

guys i have problem when i start selling something with TSM addon when i try to sell something it says that i have to sell it for like 400 gold but when it scan it with tsm addon it puts it for like 3000k gold or more how to fix it?

[@thegreekgeek7113]

Hi, great video. Quick question - some imports like Random stuff and Flip Group: Old Stuff dont show up. Any idea why?

[@SaschaKleiber]

Love this addon, but what I don't get: How do you identify which armor items to sell for transmog and which to DE? :-(

[@davidmueller2428]

Does it look cool? There's your answer ;) Or check the AH for it and you'll generally find it if it IS a high value Transmog item

[@laurids2826]

When you click on shopping how do I get the same things as u. Like "Battle pets" and "120 Raid gear?"

[@Evulldream]

Nice new groups. Like them... for some reason though, all of my posts say something like "Did not post [ITEM Name] becasue your minimum price (90% DBMarket) is invalid."

[@BregVids]

Jason Buckley your desktop app up to date?

[@drerudin]

Hi Breg, awesome vid, tyvm. Have a question though. Im trying to post with Alchemy and it wont even scan my potions and trinkets to post them saying theres no operation for them. It only posts all the flasks. Any idea on why or what i can do to fix that? Thank you!

[@drerudin]

nvm, reset profile and reinstalled all groups and it fixed itself

[@wowguy29]

As you mentioned in the end of the video it can be dating to craft all the old world stuff that the groups include. And is i actually worth doing? It might just be me who is in to much of an hurry, but if an item sells at a slow rate I get afraid I will lose my money because it will never sell. Because of this I tend to always focus on quick sells and if the items doesn't sell quick enough I go down in price. Is this a bad approach?

[@wowguy29]

Great video by the way!

[@laurids2826]

Why cant I sell my uncommen ilevel 310 hands? And when im in Auctioning I cant see blacksmith?

[@kyle21nluvnit]

is there a link you could put up to get classic lists for inputs?

[@stevenstone307]

Great video thanks for the groups! How comes my ores keep selling individually though?

[@BregVids]

Stefan Novak you’ll have to make an operation in the group with the items that sells them in stacks of 200. Or just post Manually

[@Dave-tn3eo]

Why are there so many Rings and Necks in Xmog list??

[@Damoklex]

Most of the Flip: Old World and all of the Flip: Legion Mats have no Auctioning ops, also there's some empty groups here and there at least in the transmog group. veiled crystals don't have an auctioning op either... and BfA potions too... am I doing something wrong? is it breaking while importing or do I just not understand how TSM works?^^ oh and btw do you have some formulas you want to share to calc the profit for flasks and other stuff that have procs? or are they in this already? Also Expolsum for 100g? how?? If I wanna do it via tailoring, it costs me 1k-2k each and the cheapest version I found was through alchemy transmutes for around 250g each (without proc)

[@weslleyalcoba]

I'm new to TSM and I didn't import anything yet, so, maybe I'm just seing things from the wrong angle, but wouldn't auctioning operations in the flip group be pointless? If you are flipping something, they are either transmog items or crafted items, so, the auctioning operation would be in those groups instead, right? Otherwise, you may end up with the same item in 2 groups. I don't even know how TSM would handle that. I don't know about the other empty groups though.

[@KamonPlays]

Anyone know what's up with the "send to bregsbank" parts of the groups?

[@jasonsaez3668]

Do you know if Auctioneer or Auctionator plays better with TSM? I used to have a good setup with groups, but now I'm getting error messages for all my groups if it isn't set to the Default. Any ideas from the group will be welcomed too!

[@Selcatys]

so if I understood that well, the groups in your pastebin are only for selling right ? they can't be used for shopping ? because I imported them and now I only see "flip BFA" in the shopping tab, but when I'm in the auctionning tab I can see them all, is there a way to scan for your groups ?

[@Turon69]

you need to go to group tab choose the group you want to see in shopping, for egsample you can choose battle pets, and on the right screen click Group Operations, then you need to click cogwheel icon for Shopping and set default , then u should see battle pets in shopping and you can scan only for battle pets

[@Humanaut.]

Can i Copy_Paste your pastebin with CLASSIC WOW ?

[@dewanfreddy]

yes are there Wow Classic groups?

[@user-ux3jp9oo7r]

Thanks for the video, it's the most helpful TSM guide i have seen out there... Question: How long does a Transmog (0.4+) last to sell? Also i have a lot of BoE greens that "Undercut", yet no one buys them unless its for ~200 , yet my undercutting would be around 1,2k on my server, DO people actually buy at those prices or is TSM giving wrong number cuz of deflation?

[@Daminz]

So is anyone able to import groups with attached operations properly??? Getting burned out trying to get this to work while I wanna keep playing :

[@TheProJectNeBsteR]

any chance of updated strings ?

[@bigrigger5617]

Whenever I try to import groups I am getting message "invalid string". It will not even let me make my own groups

[@enesnature5486]

You guys are so nice as Tsm team love you all

[@Darth_MoonMoon]

I've noticed that a lot of your pastebin stuff has "dbmarket" typed into the pricing configuration twice. Is there a reason for this?

[@Steely33]

Hey love the video man, I was wondering if we could also get your flip group: 101 armor as well as flip group: 110 raid boe for tsm groups, they are not in the copy and paste section of your site. Thanks :)

[@LunaLoveWoW]

There's a string in the groups that says "Send to breg's bank" Can someone explain why that is?

[@wasril]

Hejj Breg, if i copy your stings into my TSM, do i have to accept the "Move already grouped items?" or disaccept it? Idk. :-(

[@bananpyjamas]

do you know where i can find a group for herbs? i can see that u dont have it.

[@jruffner420]

Haven’t played in at least 10+ years been watching a lot of videos but hard to know what matts and everything sells for been almost a week just watching the market any tips suggestions or even friends that are doing this! Help a brotha out

[@MrIncendiarySquirrel]

Thanks for the vid Breg, has really helped me setting up TSM. Do you have a specific sniper string or do you use the TSM default? I copied one from another youtube guide and I seem to get lots of things showing up in my sniper that will never make any profit? Any help is appreciated!

[@Arieseth_]

Don't understand why my tsm literally always wants to post most normal things "At Normal Price" if something is on there for 15k and normal price is 18k instead of undercutting them it just post that shit for 18k and ill never get it sold

[@Flywithcraig]

Would love to know a lot more of how to set up shopping lists mate

hi breg my icon dont appear on minimap any solutions?

[@ruthven78]

heh yeah, you want groups, I ran it straight "out of the box" and it listed some high ticket rare drops for like a few silver

[@vanhelsingx69x]

what sould i paste in "import" ? at pastebin there are 2 codes first "text" and next "RAW Paste Data", which sould i paste it?

[@genemorse4342]

RAW Paste Data

[@tnttara]

Hey Breg hope you read this. I copied your strings (thank you very much :) ) but the groups don't show in the Shopping tab like yours. I only have some Flipping groups, but I don't know if everything is included.

[@Turon69]

same here, to change this i had to go to specific group in groups at switch shoppiing in settings