WoW TSM 4 Beginners Guide - Part 2 - Basic Groups and Operations

[@clincher3751]

Just discovered this series. You're like the Bob Ross of TSM. Loving the content!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thankyou!

[@RonaldReads]

Almost year's end, 2019, and this beginner is happily following along your TSM guides. Great stuff, well made, well paced, I am finally getting things set up. Thank you so much for making and posting these.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You are welcome!

[@fancen]

ahahahahaha

[@Shonpu]

I have been using TSM4 for only a couple of days now and was quite overwhelmed and intimidated with the amount of possibilities. Most other guides did not help with that feeling. Came across your series by accident and have to say job well done. Fantastic presentation, good speed, nice level of complexity. Have a great day :-)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thankyou! That's really good to know!

[@CoraFoerstner]

I'm a newbie, and your videos are perfect. I've watched a few others and had to stop because they were made for people who already know the system. Your videos are easy to understand, and you're going over things at a great speed. Thanks!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad it helped!

[@EquestrianAltercationsLLC]

Wow man I've got to say you are very correct in the notion of start simple, and learn. This is probably my 4th attempt to funnel my moneymaking through TSM, I'm finally getting it, and am able to make edits in operations and such with ease. Really appreciate this guide.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'm glad it's starting to make sense. It took me quite a while before I "got it"

[@dylan_uo9619]

Hello samadan hope your well man. Thanks for the video guides. They are really easy to understand and your going at a nice explanation speed. Top quality mate.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

[@ashamael]

Thank you. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! All these goblins telling me to use tsm's guides are either not for tsm4 or skip a lot of stuff that they take for granted as obvious and don't actually teach you how to do any of this stuff. I was getting frustrated, then I found your series of videos on how to set this stuff up. Now, I'm not only working on doing this stuff, I'm *excited* about doing it. You've earned a sub, my man.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'm glad you found them useful!

[@HopWorksET]

FANTASTIC! The addon is so feature rich, it needs a manual, and here it is. Thank you sir!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You are most welcome!

[@mikekelly1957]

Thanks again for the explanation, much easier to follow than many other tsm guides I've seen.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You're welcome!

[@riddermichi]

thank you so much for this. You're the first people who explained what i wanted to know in a way that's understandable for a complete noob!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'm glad you found it useful!

[@FanBoyBigBoy]

Great video! Was very helpful. Not easy many good videos about TSM setups/tutorials. I enjoyed that your videos took u step by step with explanation rather than assuming we understand all the concepts to TSM by the time we watch the video.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

[@GamerDad-007]

Love the content, and your speaking style. My only critique is to NEVER tell people to not artificially inflate items. The fact is, they do sell (and often). I make massive amounts of gold by selling inflated items. Demand is demand, and timeframes matter. Anyhow, yeah, great content! Thanks for your hard work on this.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You're welcome and thanks for the feedback! Everyone will have their own style and I would encourage people to find theirs for sure.

[@saracakic8216]

Excellent guide mate! I've tried watching other people posting guides but it's just not as good. You did a great job and I honestly enjoy learning from you! Greetings from Finland :)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks, and you're welcome!

[@tonycasello6121]

I'm going to try out your suggested minimum maximum and normal price setting. Thanks heaps and I hit the sub button as this has been very informative and rewarding for me to use.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad I could help

[@chillfishchickenlegs4584]

Hi! Great guide for a TSM newbie. Thanks for this series, hope you're well!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! You are welcome!

[@Kat_meow_kat]

Loving this series of videos helping me understand tsm more and more.keep it up . Would also love some more advance videos if thats something you plan to make.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad to hear it! I certainly do plan on doing some more in-depth ones after this.

[@Jaeghound]

hey, thanks for these guides! i just spent an hour watching and setting up my TSM, just selling the stuff i've collected through leveling in BFA, and made 10k in about 15 min of posting all my stuff. :)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Great! Happy goldmaking!

[@yodasthicc825]

Who would down vote this? lol They need to get their head checked. I can't tell you how helpful this series has been. Bravo.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'm glad it was helpful! New series coming soon on 4.10 !

[@damirkustec1288]

@samadan!!! i am here to express how greatfull i am for finding out your guides! very smooth, very professional, understandable to the core! perfect! thank you very much dear fella

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You are very welcome. Glad they helped!

[@ercarp7847]

The Default operations for posting seem to have changed quite a bit since this video was made. Are the defauls better now or would you still recommend changing them to "60% dbmarket" for this type of operation?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

The defaults are pretty good I'd say and they show many options. Best to double check your tooltip on the prices and decide if they feel about right to you.

[@viziiziv]

Hello, i have a Question about just selling my Stuff. When im in the Auctioning Tab and Scan any Specific Herb from my Pocket, for Example Sea Stalk it just interrupts and stops the scan after some seconds and either tells me "Cheapest Auction below min Price" or "Not enough Items in your Bag" for certain Herbs. The Fact that upsets me about this is that i cant see the existing Auctions of these Items and i have no Chance of creating Auctions for these Items becuase there is no Buyout set for these Items after the cancelled Scan.

[@viziiziv]

I found out what went wrong, i had to tick post on minimum price in the operation Tab for my herbs.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad you found the solution and thanks for posting it here!

[@andyb5216]

great video series sam thank you for taking the time to explain tsm to us newbies, is there any chance you could make one explaining how strings work in more detail. i cant seem to find anyone who goes into detail on that subject. thank you

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! Good idea!

[@afk4dyz]

Is there a way to make sure you never post anything at a loss? i.e. You don't post an item for minus 15% + post cost? Not sure I made this clear enough.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You can factor in posting cost by adding it to your min price. The methods for calculating posting costs are quite complicated now, but are roughly based on a percentage of vendorsell price. I usually just simplify it by bumping up my percentages a bit. Also, worth bearing in mind setting max expires to a value you are comfortable with.

[@afk4dyz]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW awesome thanks! I was just over complicating things.

[@Thorin193]

Great tutorial! Quick question, how do you add items to groups if you don't have the item in your bag. I would like to start creating groups for items I don't have.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It's quite convoluted unfortunately. I use this method - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWO3m4GlrspqgMk

[@gildan]

This is a great and helpful video, thanks very much. Quick question though.. when I run a post scan on my bags it never lists any pets ? anyone know why ? I am just scanning bag using the base grp

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! I'm not sure why pets would be excluded. I've not noticed myself, I'd have to try it. You could always make a Pets ground and add them in.

[@bullbagaren1590]

Having troubles getting the ignore random enchantments to work for me. have it checked yet it always wants to post at the items stat type

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Do you have another group with the items in with random enchants? It's the exception when an item can be in 2 groups. Maybe that's what's causing the issue?

[@housemusicisonlydrug]

nice one, but i relay want to know for the Herbs how to post 1 by 1 herb not stacks :)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Beware of your auction costs now if you post 1 by 1, Blizzard has changed the deposit fee. :)

[@amyp4334]

Thank you so much for this series. Question for you: at 17:45, why does the buyout of dreamleaf when the auctions are collapsed (3g 12s) not equal the min buyout of the dreamleaf auctions when they are all expanded (1g 44s)? Is the 3g 20s the average of all auctions? THANK YOU! I’ve been scratching my head over what the summarized prices on the All Auctions tab represent.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You're welcome! This one got me stumped too! I'm guessing the order is not sorted by price, so the one shown is random or ordered by some other means. One to ask the TSM team!

[@tonycasello6121]

iI have a couple questions. I want to simply auction what I have in my bags and have them be at the market price that tsm calculates but I also want to undercut. Do I need to use groups to do this or do I simply change the normal minimum maximum price strings? I just want to be able to come back from whatever I was doing and list everything in my bags and sell it. How do i set my minimum, normal and maximum prices based on tsm scan?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You can change them in the default base group auctioning operation. If you want to follow just your servers prices you could use ... Min - 50% dbmarket Normal - dbmarket Max - 200% dbmarket or something like that and anything not in a group will get posted. I prefer to manually build a group up as I collect things, so that I have more control.

[@tonycasello6121]

SamadanPlaysWoW Cheers, thanks again for explaining tsm simply and fully.

[@silver_birdcrafting6029]

Thanks for this great video. Can you tell me (knoob question) Is there an easy way to move items you have imported into an incorrect group instead of deleting them please?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You can drag the group you want to put the item into and make it a child of the group that currently holds the item. Then you can pull it in from the parent group into the child group. Once done, you can then drag the child group to where you wanted it in your list of groups. Hope that makes sense. If not, grab me on stream and I'll demonstrate it.

[@silver_birdcrafting6029]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW thank you so much for taking the time to reply,

[@abdullahsoliman6549]

If you were selling battle potions or something of the sort, would you suggest still setting the min/normal/max prices to the dbmarket? Or would you use something like 60%avg(dbmarket,crafting) for the min and so on? Since it's a potion, you would have to take the crafting price into consideration yeah?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Totally up to you, try it and see what the prices look like in the tooltip

[@eliaseconomou9796]

There is no option to set the stack size in the free version nowdays. Any idea how to work around that? Thanks!

[@ophyjenkins8283]

I am finding this too. New to TSM so not sure how to work around. Still excited about using this for AH.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Correct, stack size has now been removed as it's no longer part of the 8.3 auction house

[@thegreekgeek7113]

Love your videos. Very helpful. Running into an issue though for TSM4. Made two operations, one for stacks of 200... another for stacks of 100 for the same group with the same perimeters in it. Any idea why the Sellers would be different for the Stack of 200 vs Stack of 100 after Running post scan? Is it based off of stack size the seller has? It is basically undercutting different prices

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Have you got match stack size enabled? If so, the I would expect to undercut the relevant stack size.

[@thegreekgeek7113]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW That was it, thanks a bunch!

[@MrWheelchairman]

Hi i have one question. All i wanna do i post and undercut by 1c. But i dont get what formela to putt in to minimum price. Its always posting the minimum price even if its 10kg over the lowest on the AH.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

In the Min string entry section there is a drop down menu saying what to do if at minimum price. By default it is Post at Minimum Price. What is yours set to and what does your tooltip for Min/Max/Normal say when you hover over the item? How does it compare with the market & region value?

[@MrWheelchairman]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW Its set to post at minimum price. im trying to sell the engeeneris chopper. TSM Auctioning is min 271g normal 65k and max 271k. its 3 on the AH and they are around 54k. when i try to post TSM wants to post it on 65k, so the normal pricing. Ty for responding.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks for the info. I would expect TSM to try to undercut by 1cp (the default) if there are other auctions on. The only time TSM should post at normal price would be if there are non on at the time of posting. Your Min price seems really low. Perhaps set a manual price on it?

[@MrWheelchairman]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW yeah but it seeams that its posting every thing on normal priceing...

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

That's strange. I would expect that if there are different variations of the same item.

[@SSPGaming]

Fantastic guides. What would suggest as a price source for coming up with a formula for a group of BOE's you farm in dungeons? Would the region market average be better than market average? This is honestly the thing I've been struggling most with in TSM4.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! Yes, I'd use dbregionmarketavg it works for me.

[@smithical100]

I can't seem to add my cloth to different groups. I have one for shopping, then I have one for mailing. Two totally different groups but I can only add it to one of them.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

That's right. An item can only be in one group. However, you can have shopping AND mailing operations assigned to that group.

[@MetalMathiasTP]

Iam enjoying to watch all of your videoes! ;D I have a question. Even tho i made a group for my transmog and ticked the ignore item variations, its still wont undercut the cheapest variation on the auction house. How do i fix that problem? I want to allways undercut the cheapest variation on ah with every green tmog piece i sell. I really hope u can help me out.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

What does tsm say when posting? Is it below min price or undercutting competition?

[@MetalMathiasTP]

I Found a solutions but thanks for your time answering my comment! Ty alot

[@andras19940517]

Hello, great video! :) I have a problem, when i want to post a transmog item on AH, TSM wants to put it on normal price (it thinks there are no items like this), but there are others selling this item too, i can't figure it out why does it do it :/

[@andras19940517]

i know it now, its the item level :D but i don't know what to do about it if my item is 6 itemlevel higher

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad you found out what it was. You can get TSM to bunch them all together by checking the "Ignore Item variations" option in posting

[@SaschaKleiber]

Great video series! One question though regarding the transmog group: You have to add each item manually to the group, but there are dozens of different low level items, so I'd be busy for years adding each of the random green items to the group. Isn't there a way to automatically add e.g. all green items below a specific level to a group?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Not that I know of. I've simply been adding them as I find them. It's pretty easy to as you go. Alternatively, see if there is something in kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWO3m4GlrspqgMk or here www.tradeskillmaster.com/group-maker/top

[@SaschaKleiber]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW Thanks for the answer mate! Just found a transmog group for items < itemlevel 60, which I don't quite understand.... I'm kinda new to selling transmogs, is this a common threshold for transmog items? Also another issue I'm having with TSM 4: Is it somehow possible to edit the bags in the bank with the TSM-UI? I didn't find an option for that, also I can't siwtch to the wow standard ui with a button like in the other windows...

[@BoshinTV]

I have a couple of Xmogs on the auction but how do i set it to post to Max Price when there are no other sellers?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You could set your normal to be just a little lower than your max settings.

[@BoshinTV]

SamadanPlaysWoW I did exactly that, thank you!

[@judiang]

Great tutorials Samadan. Your additions worked fine on one server but when I transferred to another one, suddenly I'm getting errors like "110% crafting" is invalid. Yes, I also changed to the correct server in the app. What do I do?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I've not tried what happens with server transfers, my first guess would be tsm needs to know the new materials prices, or maybe just needs you to open the professions so it can re-register them.

[@user-lc5bu9bm7v]

Maybe you have to link the server with the desktop app?

[@7979bob]

hi mate any ideas why when I create a group like your example herb one then I scan auction house for that group in keeps scanning all the content of my bag?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Is your base group still selected?

[@vovafm]

love ur tsm vvids (would it be possible to get ur groupd and operations imports?

[@Rolfmeister]

Spectacular guide! Liked and Subscribed!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks again!

[@Sage-cw4xl]

Hi on the tooltip I don't have the auctioning min/normal/max. I have everything else but that in the tooltip. Would appreciate it if you can help me.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It should be in your TSM Settings under Tooltip Settings -> Auctioning and check Display auctioning values

[@zzzTrooge]

What would you recommend bfa raw mats min/max/normal price be set to?

[@иринаворобьева-у3ы]

TSM isn't displaying the tooltip for my battle pets. Does anyone know what the problem is?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Is it just battle pets?

[@иринаворобьева-у3ы]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW yes, it was only with battle pets. But i found the problem. Addon Arkinventory blocked it. Thanks for the answer🙂

[@laja6108]

Fantastic explanation, I'm excited to get all of my groups and operations setup :)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad you found it useful!

[@nickdegreef3711]

Why is it on my screen not showing the percentage at the end of the line?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Have you linked your database for your server via the TSM website?

[@nickdegreef3711]

I did, fixed it thanks. :)

[@garyphelps6048]

My buyout prices don't show copper amount. Therefore, if I undercut someone by 20c, and they are selling for 2g30s50c, they will show up at 2g30s. I will be at 2g30s30c, but show up at 2g30s. So, I have to undercut by 1s to ensure I see the difference.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

With the new auction house changes, copper is no longer a thing and undercutting is no longer needed. You just need to match the lowest price.

[@Igwouane]

Hello nice tutorial, but i have a question what is the utility of override parent operation ? And my second question, I don't know at which menu i do apply my operation because my group is compose to minor=>bfa=>Ore/bar/... I don't know which group I apply my ops, my principal, my minus group...

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Overriding the parent allows you to do something specific with a child group. When applying the operation, pick the highest up which you want to include everything below.

[@Igwouane]

SamadanPlaysWoW oh thanks you for your answer, I have 2 questions again ^^'. How its work, if we use for example "60% dbmarket" but in the market, he doesn't have the item, how its calculed ? And how its possible to create differents ops for the same group and he works like this : - priority to 200 stacks (its is impossible we go to second ops) -100 stacks ( its impossible go to third ops) - 20 stacks ..... - .... Thanks you for your help ! :)

[@Igwouane]

And last question, its normal the price estimed by tsm when i mouse over and other is never the veritable price at the ah ? ^^' because sometimes there is a big gap

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

DBmarket is a weighted average over the past 14 days on your server, so for new items in BfA expect this to fluctuate a lot, if there hasn't been an item in 14 days, check dbregionmarketavg which uses the whole region. I've got a video coming up in the next hour talking through multiple operations, i'll link it once it's live.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJStZY2Agbdsm6s

[@nathanjohn589]

Whats your setup for dbmarket and so on when you post stuff in ah

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Usually something like 70% min, 500% max and 110% normal

[@quirin3716]

Great guide, thank you for this! :) I got one problem tho, when i post my transmog items, most of it only posts at normal price value and not undercutting others with same items. How to fix this? :p

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You need to tick "ignore item variations" when making your group

[@Varitok1]

With the way the new AH works. Would you recommend still putting an undercut amount? Or to simply repost when someone posts after you?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'd recommend not undercutting. Perhaps if the market is moving swiftly, post little and often if you can

[@Varitok1]

Thank you!

[@Kimperly420]

At 14:56 I see you're able to select manually stack/quantity, how am I able to do that? I know I can set up operations and groups but in some cases I want to set stack size and quantity manually.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Unfortunately, that has been removed from TSM for some reason. I've flagged it with the team and hopefully it will come back.

[@paulonunes1852]

Hey Will There be a part3? Realy enjoying this

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! Yes there will later this week..

[@FndSuzey]

Hi thank for the guide, I have question items are being put in at higher the price than whats in ah any idea why this is happing

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Are you looking at items that have variations? e.g "of the Peerless" etc.

[@JoeGameVideos]

Wen below min price whatever i drop it it will never undercut the lowest guy i can choose all 5 options it remains same as the other seller i dont get it ..

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Are you listing an item with different variations? Did you put it in the group with ignore variations turned on?

[@JoeGameVideos]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW i put my min to close as 35% and changed all settings of min price even ignore varations or dont post it it still want to post it and still doesnt ignore the price wen like 1 item is 425gold 25s as lowest price i want ofcourse slighly lower lets say in that case 25gold idk how much % it was then but still. it just remains on min settings with all options at 425. it only increases wen i put my price higher... so what am i doing wrong i can give you then settings ive down

[@JoeGameVideos]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW the only way i could fix it for transmorgs but probs losing alot money on it .. 65% dbregmarkavg dontpost - 160% max * yes only * and 115% normal maybe i should put normal to 125 or 130 to get slighlty more out of transmorg in any case

[@JoeGameVideos]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW small edit it wont change again.. even wen my min price is way lower it just doesnt undercut a single penny.. i want to undercut those by 2-5%.. but if go to low then high expensive ones go drop so much that its flipable..

[@IlPane1505]

Followed the guide but when someone undercuts me the add-on don't cancel my auctions to give me the chance to undercut again. How can I setup that?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

The addon won't cancel for you unless you run a cancel scan. All the details are here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGbWenWund16ZsU

[@karimkabbani7325]

Hey! nice video! I wanted to check if you could help me with something. If I place the min normal and max strings it gives me an error when I scan, and only works with the default string. It says that there is an error with the string (in the chat box) thanks in advance.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

What does the error say in the chat box? What string are you typing? Also, check your brackets and commas, they can be easy to miss.

[@themadtux]

Just have to say.. thanks for the tutorials... really easy to understand. Quick question tho. My tooltip does not have the bottom line like yours where it shows the Min/Normal/Max values on an item. Should I be seeing those? Also, when it comes to having the groups, do I have to manually put everything into a group. Say enchanting mats, do I have manually add the dust each time I get a new one? Or say transmog items... add each item so it's under the transmog group and operation?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

The extra information can be added to the tooltip in settings -> tooltip. Yes you do have to add new ones in manually, it's a bit of a pain, but allows you to grow your groups organically as you play.

[@Tjenne92]

Great guide ! Just a question here : So there's no way to add an item to your groups then to have them in your bags ? ... this is such a hassle =/ iv'e scoured the internet and nothing ... can't find a thing ^^

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

There is using a site like group maker or there is one on the TSM site. I did a video here, it's old, but the principles the same. Sady, the whole process is fairly convoluted. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWO3m4GlrspqgMk

[@ryoman7754]

what do i need for the min/avg/max information on the tooltip?

[@Heymateymate]

What's the reason behind scanning your groups taking a very, very, very long time. Is it Addon related or recent fixes on Blizzard's end?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

AH speed is usually Blizzards end with a little bit from Mr. Potato my end :) My server is relatively fast compared to others.

[@Heymateymate]

Fair enough, I'm on Stormscale EU (Horde) I think It's one of the more populated Horde servers on EU and I did the scan prime time yesterday, and that was dreadful. 6-7 AM seems to be fairly fast enough, could be faster tho. But it seems to be an 'issue' on Blizzard's end and of course the population as the deciding factor.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yep, I hear similar reports on many high pop servers

[@ripsterripster8079]

Try Dreanor eu, took me 3 hours to post 16 items.

[@Adohleas]

For the transmog group, I am trying to undercut everyone with the base item name. I made sure "ignore item variation in the group?" is checked, but it still only undercuts people with the same variation when I go to post scan. This means I'm often undercut by someone that is selling different variants of the same item. Is there something else I need to change? The "Ignore item variation in the group?" option seems to just add all variants to the group, but doesn't use the ignore option to undercut all varients.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

That's how I understand it to work, sometimes a /reload helps after adding the items into the group. I'll test it my side to see if I get the same.

[@Adohleas]

I managed to get it working, I deleted TSM's addon folder since I had old files still from several years ago and then added the new version back and it seems to be working. Looks like some of the old files must of been interfering somehow even though I patched it to the newest version.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad you got it working!

[@kieranbyrne3795]

Great video...yet, I followed all your said in the beginning, groups, etc...just tried my first posting of items as a VERY new beginner to this but am now in charge of my guild AH. Anywho, just posted all my herbs...but it only posted them at the min/buyout at the same price...14s...where everything else shows it should have been gold. Thoughts or suggestions?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It sounds like TSM hasn't got pricing data for your realm. When you register on their website, there should be an option to tell TSM which realm data to download.

[@wikigroth7957]

Wow, I cant say how much this videos have helped to understand tsm. Ty so much for this! Is there any way to make tsm register each bought item price and set an auctioning operation to lets say 120% of that bought price? I think it would be awesome to set a shopping operation to for example 70% dbmarket price and an auctioning operation at 120% of that especific price. That way I dont even have to pay too much attention because I will always get a profit. I havent found a way to do it. I think avgbuy is the closest to this idea, but still something different. Thank you!

[@tonycasello6121]

What do I do when most items are being sold at vendor sell or lower than vendor prices? I keep having to relist items and losing money. I’ve tried different values and settings and I can’t figure out how to undercut without having to change min Normal and max prices constantly.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

If they are being sold at less than vendor prices, you can snap them up and sell them to a vendor for a small profit. You don't need to undercut if the lowest price is still within your profit margins. The listing fees can make some thing not profitable in the long run. What kind of things are you selling?

[@Ryan-tg1mx]

@SamadanPlaysWow REALLY enjoying these videos for TSM as a new user. It would be super helpful if you could potentially put a pseudo table of contents in the video description that points to different topics at their time markers. When I remember that you discuss something and I want to come back and hear it again later, it's tricky to locate it since the screen is pretty similar when looking at thumbnails that show up when you hover over the timeline. Again, love the content though, thanks so much for doing this!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks for the idea, I'll look into what I can do.

[@JohnnyUtah71]

A HUGE thank you for these guides.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You're welcome!

[@abaddondestroyer1124]

I want to post in custom stacks on the fly (for items that are not in any group) - but the stacks are not clickable in the UI, in your version on this video as i can see there is a pen that indicates you can change the stack size on the fly, as you can change the bid and buyout price on the fly. Pls help - there are tons of stuff that i dont want to have in groups and just sell it this time, so i really need this .. Thanks! (your tuts are awesome)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I feel your pain. It was there and now it's gone. I've let the team know and hopefully they can put it back soon.

[@user-lc5bu9bm7v]

Is there an advantage to putting multiple operations on the same group?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yes for posting in different stack sizes

[@user-lc5bu9bm7v]

Yeah I just now found the multiple stack size video, watching it now :D thanks for the quick reply!

[@tylerpaul9610]

If I have 2 operations set up for lets say my herbs. 1 operation being for stacks of 200 and the other operation for stacks of 20 under my "herbs group" how to I select which stack size I want under the auctioning menu in TSM

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It's not something you can select each time you post, but you can add multiple operations to one group, see part 7

[@larsirmen1949]

great video series, ty for all the help

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You're welcome!

[@nathanjohn589]

how do you set up the profession groups like in tsm 3

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Do you mean like when TSM3 would give you the option to automatically import all materials and recipes? TSM 4 doesn't do that unfortunately. Not that I know of anyway.

[@Radcliff-1026]

I hope you will still respond to this giving the time length of time between comment and posting the video. First off, I love your series of tsm vids. It is the most useful info i have found, for me, to take and actually start using this add on. I was so confused trying to set this up and understand it, so thank you. My question is this, does the data in tsm get more precise with time (like scanning and gathering data) or use (like me posting and selling auctions)? I am referring more specifically to the Region Sale Rate and Region Avg Daily Sold numbers. I don't know if it is because i am looking at old transmog gear or if it is the fact that I just installed the add on, but those numbers for me always seem very low when i compare them to the ones i see in videos. Any light you could shed on this for me would be greatly appreciated.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'm glad you're enjoying the videos! TSM sale rate and average daily sold come from data from all users of tsm, so it will change over time and be dependent on your region. I'm not sure exactly, but I think it's only the last 60 days data it uses, so will constantly be updating.

[@Radcliff-1026]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW thank you very much for the reply this info helps a lot.

[@fancen]

yes

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It's an oldie, but a goodie :)

[@R1Looter]

I had some ores in my bags which I wanted to sell, but it says the min/normal/max price are 1c/6s/75s and it does not ever change even after altering my settings a bit or creating these price limits for groups. Any tips?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Have you told TSM which realm you are playing on the TSM website? www.tradeskillmaster.com/realms

[@R1Looter]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW yes I have managed to set up after messing around for a while, managed to make 15k on my first day with selling junk. Thanks alot for your tutorials!

[@litebkt]

This was very helpful. Thanks!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jadies87]

Hi great guides! i'm having trouble with auctioning tab and shopping tab not finding the same items on AH. If i shift right click an item from my bag in the shopping tab, it will find the 3 current auctions of this item, but when i do the same in the auctioning tab to quickly post it, its only finding 1 and its the most expensive one. So its not finding the cheaper auctions for some reason. any ideas why this could be? Sometimes when i go to All Auctions, next to Auction log, its not showing any at all even though in the tooltip it is showing 3 auctions.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you mean, the auction tab is showing you all your own auctions and the shopping tab is showing everyone elses, so they will be different. When you say the tooltip is showing 3 auctions, do you mean 3 of your own or 3 since last scan?

[@tempestindustries9446]

For some reason it wont save my numbers I put in to try to change the values of the min and max and all other value changes. Can someone help me, it wont let me change them like after I change it and click to the next it reverts back to 1 or whatever.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

That one foxed me for a while, you need to press enter to apply changes.

[@tempestindustries9446]

Thx I might make my own loadout soon my cousin sent me his

[@EdyGlockenspiel]

I tried doing the ignore item variations option on TSM but when I run a post scan it still wants to post the same type of auction with a different version for my mogs. *edit* I fixed it. Turns out It bugged out with having 148 items in my bags and I simply moved some items around and then it cleared up. I also relogged just to make sure, my post scan went from 148 to 119 items to post.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad you sorted it. I usually do a /reload after adding any items to a ignore random enchants group as TSM often gets confused with them until I do.

[@EdyGlockenspiel]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW Or it might of been that I had nearly 150 items I wanted to post xD but yeah. I had to relog after every time I went to my GB and added more. Had a full GB on my bank alt full of mogs I never got around to selling till now, been saving them up for over 7 years.

[@Viper8796]

for some reason when I try to run a post scan with an operation like the one you did it just says "did not post (xxx) because your minimum price (60% dbmarket) is invalid. CHeck your settings. any idea what Im doing wrong?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Maybe check there is a dbmarket price for your server, some new items won't have one yet. Also, compare it with your normal and max strings, they all relate to each other.

[@dandelionsg]

I had the same problem then realized I didn't have the TSM app running on my computer.

[@tetchyirl2894]

Absolutely fantastic content. Thank you so much. Am recommending to everyone. (Posting same comment on all in series with a thumbs up)

[@Bary471]

when im rewriting the price , tsm4 rewrite back what do to?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Are you pressing enter when done? TSM won't commit unless you do.

[@samuelsovadina4485]

this video helped me to understand a lot of basics things in tsm like operations that i didnt know before, thanks man, now i can finally make my own posting operations that are based to my server THANKS! :)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You are welcome!

[@majidalashari3686]

hey samadan, thanks for the videos they were very helpful I just subscribed :D. also whats your take on sheyrah's Auctioning operations (sheymin,..)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You're welcome! Sheyrah operations I've not used myself, but I know she has done some very comprehensive work on them to account for as many eventualities as possible. I'd definitely recommend checking them out for sure.

[@jollyjay4076]

Okay, I have a question, it's kinda hard to explain, but try to understand... So, BFA launched and I got some herbs, how can I make it so that I can still post stack sizes of like 50 etc, but at the same price that of a stack size of 1. For example, a stack size of 1 Winter's Kiss might go for 41g each, but a stack size of 50 is going for 61g per item, TSM is only undercutting the person of the same stack size that I'm trying to post, not going off the price per item, If it's too hard to understand, let me know and I'll try to explain a little better.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

There is an option in TSM to match stack sizes. It is possible you have that turned on when you want it turned off?

[@Will-ky4qr]

Very well done thank you, best i have seen trying to learn this heading into BoA liked, recommended / subscribed!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

[@MILCHoney]

why am i getting the error Loop detected in the following custom price: sheynorm

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I am not familiar with Sheyrah's groups. She has done such a great job making it comprehensive, I'm sure there is a solution. Try on the Woweconomy discord.

[@Xmenjade]

thank you for providing these guides and sharing your knowlege, really well made guide(playlist)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You're welcome!

[@Wowmantrav]

Hey Samadan, whenever I run my scan for my transmog, only selecting the transmog group,(I did everything for my operation and groups just like you did in this video) it still uses the #Default selection and tells me there are "Not enough items in bags." for my transmog... any idea what's going on here? Thanks!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

That seems strange. Try hovering over one of the transmog items in your bags and look at the tooltip. TSM will tell you which group that item is assigned to.

[@timcross3426]

hey Samadan I'm having the same issue. The error is saying because min price (30% dbregionmarketavg) is invalid. I did it the exact way you did it in your video. Is this incorrect?

[@timcross3426]

@Wowmantrav it still uses Default because under Groups > Transmog > Group Operations > Auctioning you still have both #Default and regionavg as operations. You need to click the little X next to #Default to remove. As far as the error, I'm having the same issue. It says Not Enough items in bags and when I check the chat it says because min price (30% dbregionmarketavg) is invalid please check settings

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Tim, is there any extra information in the chat window when TSM does that? sometimes it can be a bit more descriptive.

[@Wowmantrav]

Tim was right. I needed to delete default from the operations for said group and now it works. Thanks guys

[@Swaelo]

You bloody legend, thanks for doing these videos

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

[@hawncho7198]

I have 8 medallions to sell in stacks of 1 and it caps out at 5 for some reason Not sure why there is no ALL

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

The base #default group caps at 5, yes. You could change it to something like 200 stacks of 200 and turn on allow partial stacks to give it more.

[@hawncho7198]

yeah i figured it out after a bit You have to press enter for the value to stick

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad you got it working!

[@BerrieBadslof]

minimum price is invalid: max(0.25*avg(crafting,dbmarket,dbregionmarketavg),1.5*vendorsell) which is the standard setting

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

What are your other two price settings? TSM will compare all 3 and if one is higher or lower and it shouldn't be, TSM will complain.

[@BerrieBadslof]

thanks for the reply, think they are all standard. The other 2 are max(5*avg(crafting,dbmarket,dbregionmarketavg),30*vendorsell) max(2*avg(crafting,dbmarket,dbregionmarketavg),12*vendorsell)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

That is strange, that should work. Is is for one specific item? Try narrowing down which of those makes it invalid. Perhaps it is crafting, although there should be other data for tsm to fall back on.

[@KerrankiSuomee]

Heya mate! Is there an easy way to add all of my items from gbank to my groups? Just got back to tsm with 2 full guild banks of groupless items and I'm seriously considering retiring

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

The only way I know is to move them into your bags and sort them in batches. The tsm warehousing interface may be of some help, but the guild banks are notoriously slow, so some pain will be involved.

[@Lambofgod2316]

Mine keeps saying, "Cannot post ______ because (60% dbmarket) is invalid, check settings." idk what to do lol if i dont change my settings it tries to sell for 1000% less then what its selling for in AH.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I've had this with a couple of BfA items and haven't found the root of the problem yet. I suspect it might be a bug. It might helps to have a fallback price either manually or some other price source and use first() function in case it's invalid.

[@KerrankiSuomee]

Do you have the TSM application installed and running? If you don't have the separate program running you don't get any price source updates

[@ТодорЙорданов-в5л]

So i copied sheylah pastebin, but now i can't change how much items tsm 4 will post. I mean i am changing it to greater number, but it just returns to 1... Can you help me? or like explain me why this happens ?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'm not familiar with Sheyrah's groups. Try asking in the wow economy discord discord.gg/np3sVP

[@ТодорЙорданов-в5л]

Thank you, asked and fixed the problem :). Keep up the great work :)

[@Rewolloc]

Insta Subscribed. Best video about tsm 4 around so far! Thank you very much!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

same here

[@pyroteamdenbosch9865]

should I sell 0.01 sell rate tmog?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I wouldn't recommend it as a main earner. You'd need a lot of auctions to see daily sales, depending on your server of course.

[@carewzen]

Great entry tutorials, thank you!!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You're welcome!