Traditional Archery: Arrows, what you NEED to know

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Trad Archery 101

Trad Archery 101

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@davidwsmith316
@davidwsmith316 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, Greg! 😊 The information you shared in this video is awesome! I'm 66 years old and a newbie to archery. I started about 6 months ago by taking lessons, joining an archery club, and buying a 35 lb PSE Nighthawk, which is like a Samick Sage. I depended on the recommendation of the guys at my archery shop and have .600 carbon arrows, cut down 1/2". Your information on arrows is invaluable to me moving forward. I saved your video to my list. I will review it over and over until I have the information down by memory until no part is confusing, and I have a fluent understanding of these concepts! 😊 i just bought a 64" 40 lb. Southwest Archery Spider XL. It comes with a Dacron string. I ordered a 60" D97 Flemish Twist string. I understand D97 is between Dacron and Fast Flight. I will consider all these factors to buy new arrows for my 64" 40 lb. Southwest Archery Spider XL.
@Maddie_Madds
@Maddie_Madds 2 жыл бұрын
Remember guys, it's not about length, it's about the stiffness 😅 Thankyou for this, really useful as salespeople always say different things which is frustrating. I'll be crafting my own instead soon for my off shelf recurve.
@steveramsden1
@steveramsden1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this awesome video....I'm new to archery and this video has clarified more about arrows than any other video i have viewed. Thank you for taking the time to make all of your very informative videos. I find you explain everything in terms even a newbie can understand. Thanks again.
@Buckarooskiczek
@Buckarooskiczek 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best, most thorough explanation of arrow performance out there. Take this info and use some of the other guys like, Jake Kaminsky to fine tune if you’re deep into target archery. THIS channel, Archery 101, is THE best for beginners!
@davidwsmith316
@davidwsmith316 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree! I like the way Greg explains every detail simply as a teacher, so beginners, like me, can digest this information to understand what we are dealing with. I will watch this video repeatedly until I have the information inculcated!
@isaabdrahmansosa-dominguez267
@isaabdrahmansosa-dominguez267 5 жыл бұрын
My God this is the best educational video i have seen in a long time on KZbin. I just got my new bow which happens to be a used recorve and this made my life so much easier to understand this part of the sport.
@rurik41
@rurik41 4 жыл бұрын
Clear, concise and direct..Thank You! This has been saved to the library to be watched several more times😁
@wesleybragisson
@wesleybragisson 2 жыл бұрын
That is one killer bass line in the intro music ! just found your channel. Awesome info. Thanks
@KiwiBushcraftAndSurvival
@KiwiBushcraftAndSurvival 4 жыл бұрын
Auto subscribed. Mate YOU ARE THE MAN! Finally someone that knows what they are talking about, but you share all the knowledge in a way that is honest, easy to understand and in full in detail. I learnt more from this video, than watching hundreds of other videos where people only tell you little bits and pieces. It feels like people out there will share little bits and pieces on a subject, but intentionally withhold vital pieces of information from us? You however; share it ALL. my friend and must be commended on that. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. And now I am going to watch all of your other videos.
@douglasrice8548
@douglasrice8548 5 жыл бұрын
first video I've found that gets to the Nitty Gritty of the subject. Great.
@kevinmcmenamin260
@kevinmcmenamin260 5 жыл бұрын
Most informative, easy to understand, VERY relevant information on how & why that I have enjoyed & learned from so easily in my 67 yrs !!!! Goodonya Mate - Thankyou for taking the time to share this vital knowledge !!
@vanislandsteve
@vanislandsteve Жыл бұрын
Best video ever, clear and simple. Thanks 👍🏻🇨🇦
@alfalfaomega9290
@alfalfaomega9290 3 жыл бұрын
hi greg, i can see and hear arrows are definitely one of your passions. watching your video was amazing, that's a lot of information to take in but perfectly put. i'll enjoy watching this again to take notes. thanks.
@yakfish36
@yakfish36 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks so much im brand new to archery and even though i baught my bow from a proper well known shop i learnt more from this than my apparent expert who sold me my gear. thanks for posting such a great vid.
@StevenCHKim
@StevenCHKim 6 жыл бұрын
You think clearly and rationally about matters that are inexplicably emotion charged for some people. Really appreciate the good info.
@jkinney4678
@jkinney4678 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!! I have been looking all over for help spinning arrows for my horse bow, and what you've said explains so much about the issues I'm having.
@mlenz2553
@mlenz2553 7 жыл бұрын
this was a great video! just getting into archery and your channel has helped me learn so much. I especially like the bit of science you include when explaining why.
@davidlackey4873
@davidlackey4873 3 жыл бұрын
been deer hunting with crossbow for about 5yrs. now and wanted to try archery, have a bear flare a friend gave me,but i wanted to start with a recurve blackhunter i got off amazon...watched alot of your vids and tried your technics and i'm getting groupings about the size of a 5gallon bucket at 20yds, never even held a bow before...anyway just wanted to thank you, your vids work for me!!!
@williamlockhart5031
@williamlockhart5031 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! Informative and presented in a way that is easily received and not like you are trying to sell something. Thank you!
@jamesgraham6796
@jamesgraham6796 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic tutorial. I took many note. Thanks Teach.
@tmacs311
@tmacs311 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video Greg 👍 thanks 👍
@yauki1312
@yauki1312 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. You simplified it for me. Thank you so much for that.
@dragonslayer8812
@dragonslayer8812 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel thanks i like the way you explain things, ive learnt so much in such a short time. Appreciate it.
@rodneyhanbaum697
@rodneyhanbaum697 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent information! I'm TRYING to figure this out getting back to Traditional Archery with an Old Bear KODIAK Recurve... have been a compound shooter for 40+ years...it's not been an easy transition but I'm going to do this!!!
@knightingalesaid
@knightingalesaid 3 жыл бұрын
Another great educational video. Thanks again.
@baskhoan
@baskhoan 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Lots of good info. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!!
@unklstepbilly
@unklstepbilly 8 жыл бұрын
great video. this has been overdue. two thumbs up
@rolyebe1066
@rolyebe1066 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff great tips 👍👍👍👍👍
@abirch77
@abirch77 7 ай бұрын
I've watched a lot of these videos and you're the best at explaining well things that practicable and actionable! Thank you! The only thing that throws me once in a while is when you're shooting and show one of your arrows as too weak or too stiff and I'm like; wait, that's backwards! Then I remember you're a left hand shooter (& I'm right handed) so that's opposite & correct. LOL
@perpirak00
@perpirak00 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You made things a bit clearer to us. And made me subscribe to your channel!
@martinmag628
@martinmag628 4 жыл бұрын
Many, many thanks. You enlightend me.
@PBS-nm1uu
@PBS-nm1uu 5 жыл бұрын
great presentation thanks keep them coming
@pierrelauzon5914
@pierrelauzon5914 6 жыл бұрын
i,ve been shooting for many years and i have been using howard hill tecnics and all i can say is you do a great job thanks my friend i i will recomande you and your work good job
@guitarmanmark
@guitarmanmark 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice always, thank you
@rolyebe1066
@rolyebe1066 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff and very interesting clever man 👍👍👍👍👍
@chuckminick9511
@chuckminick9511 2 жыл бұрын
I always learn from you thank you sir
@Paintballinmike1
@Paintballinmike1 8 жыл бұрын
Love those four fletch arrows, beautiful
@TheNockingPoint
@TheNockingPoint 8 жыл бұрын
Nice work on this arrow video!
@cb-cj2ke
@cb-cj2ke 8 жыл бұрын
Great beginner video.
@ricardovieira49
@ricardovieira49 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Learned lots.
@qbuilders9271
@qbuilders9271 4 жыл бұрын
woow mate is so great thank you the fact is still confused yes but yoiur great simple explanation is just great THANK YOU!!!!! so much
@offthearrowshelf
@offthearrowshelf 6 жыл бұрын
Good breakdown and useful information, thanks
@Deuce-G-RC
@Deuce-G-RC 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff - thanks brother!
@samuelpoyry8420
@samuelpoyry8420 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this video... helped me a lot
@alxandr56
@alxandr56 7 жыл бұрын
Really great video!
@MAAAH1581
@MAAAH1581 8 жыл бұрын
excellent work nice explanation greeting from Saudi Arabia
@slackerpope
@slackerpope 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You're totally awesome.
@istra70
@istra70 5 жыл бұрын
I was about to order some carbon arrows for my new coming bow. Couldn't work out with 100% certainty the arrow length. Some manufacturers count overall length, but some count only the shaft or only the shaft and nock ( without a tip). And this is just the length without considering thickness ( diameter) or the weight of the arrows !!!! The only thing I could work out without a problem is a spine from the charts ... Feathers size also vary - and generally the smaller the better.....common bow string I heard is Dynema and not Dacron ( not sure now ).... Time, practice and experimenting will hopefully cure all the bits and peaces ....
@rledmiston462
@rledmiston462 6 жыл бұрын
Great info, I like the way you present stuff so I can understand. Can you explain why an arrow has 3 or 4 flecthing? Why not 2?
@peterjordan4868
@peterjordan4868 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@chrisdakin567
@chrisdakin567 8 жыл бұрын
You explained that really well cheers .
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@savegeorange5162
@savegeorange5162 7 жыл бұрын
This week at archery 101 were going to be talking about archery 102
@timsherman8701
@timsherman8701 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@BennyCFD
@BennyCFD 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible, great video. Can you do a video just for fletching, I heard larger fletch's straighten out the arrow faster and better for shorter distances, and smaller vanes while allow for a faster arrow but straightens out the arrow at a greater distance.
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 6 жыл бұрын
Good idea, I will look into that, thanks.
@corkdecoys1
@corkdecoys1 8 жыл бұрын
when you say center cut, am I measuring the width of the bow at the shelf? or am I not even close? thanks. Became a para a few years back and i'm having to relearn how to shoot sitting down, I have a 45lb L bow and a 50lb recurve. Any tips on a best shooting position sitting down chair level. Any help would be much appreciated, trying to start out right.thanks
@Rubafix989
@Rubafix989 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. The worst thing about modern archery is that the imperial system is all over the place.
@istra70
@istra70 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and he made mistake because 400 of an inch is more than 500 of an inch but the 400 arrow is stiffer ( flexes less) than 500 arrow. The imperial system really sucks ....
@MastaSquidge
@MastaSquidge 5 жыл бұрын
@@istra70 what? 400 is less than 500 lmao 0.4" is always less than 0.5"
@staceyhornsby2415
@staceyhornsby2415 7 жыл бұрын
For mounted archery I was told a stiffer spine is wanted like a 400 since we shoot thumb for right handed shooters and arrow is on right side of the how handle. I assume because the paradox is the arrow is already pointing off to the right a bit since we don't use an arrow shelf and the fact that we are moving on a galloping horse we want to take into account that we actually want the arrow to go left so we hit the target since we are moving off to the right (right handed shooters shoot off left side of the horae). Am I understanding this right?
@ronaldskidmore5478
@ronaldskidmore5478 8 жыл бұрын
Great video You helped demystify arrows for me Thanks
@ronbarr7228
@ronbarr7228 8 жыл бұрын
Greg, another great video on a very complicated subject for many archers. You obviously put a lot of work and effort into this one where many people on KZbin have tried and failed. Just one question though. Doesn't draw length have an effect on choosing the correct arrow spine? A suggestion for another video would focus on he differences between a recurve and American flatbow or longbow. Those differences would be accuracy, flexibility, overall performance and durability.
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
Draw length does play a part because it determines the draw weight, they go hand in hand. As for the recurve / Long Bow comparison, I can't find anyone to agree on anything about them. It is just so subjective.
@vincentdegraaf2222
@vincentdegraaf2222 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks that about the string and if the bow is cut in center I didn’t know
@oldmannoob8105
@oldmannoob8105 3 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks
@sprk11
@sprk11 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Greg great vid. I will have to brush up on my vocab. I can't help but feel this vid has a bit to do with an arrow discussion we were involved in on the trad archery page. I will strive to refer to spine as stiff and not heavy. I have a bad habit of calling a stiff arrow as a heavy arrow . Your vid sets a great platform to move into other things that affect an arrow as well and to set up bow set up. Great vid looking forward to more. And ya the numbering of spine stiffness's is annoying specially the aluminums
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
I made this a while back and discussion was just happenstance. I had a big video in mind and once i started it i realized that was going to be waaaay to big.
@sprk11
@sprk11 8 жыл бұрын
actually after I posted I looked back at the dates on the posting and cross referenced with the calendar and realized that you posted that a few days ago. And yes any video on arrows and how they inter act with the bow could go on and on. Good job nailing down the basics.
@zincyellowmach1523
@zincyellowmach1523 6 жыл бұрын
Finally!!!! Thanks for the info!! Great vid
@MichelCollignon_Weert
@MichelCollignon_Weert Жыл бұрын
Screw-on does not need an insert by definition. If you use a wooden shaft, the screw on can be screwed on directly on and into the wood. Preferably use a battery screwdriver.
@dombadolato1699
@dombadolato1699 7 жыл бұрын
very helpful mate cheers
@Siberius-
@Siberius- 7 жыл бұрын
Well that was bloody good.
@AllenManor
@AllenManor 7 жыл бұрын
well done!
@QuinnWilliamWilson
@QuinnWilliamWilson 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary! One question, you explained that too weak of an arrow is bad because all that extra bending absorbs energy and makes it less efficient. Makes sense. You also said that an arrow that's too stiff is bad, but you didn't really specify why. Do you know any of the (basic) physics behind why you shouldn't overspine?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
Over spine flies sideways (it does not flex enough) and has more drag (due to larger surface area), again robbing you of energy. Can they both work? Oh yes. But if you want to maximize your equipment so it performs at its maximum potential, then you need the proper spine.
@larsblankenfjell9814
@larsblankenfjell9814 4 жыл бұрын
Greg, what about Bamboo arrows or River canes? I started this year, to shoot Bamboo arrows, and in my opinion, I miss less. So do you have any experiance of bamboo arrows with a traditional Long bows?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delay. I have shot them, Jeff Krug had some. Flew nice and seemed to be more durable than normal wooden arrows.
@larsblankenfjell9814
@larsblankenfjell9814 4 жыл бұрын
@@TradArchery101 Thanks Greg for answers, I bought some River Canes from Ryan Gills( I have not tested them yet) need to put some adapters on them, and grind down a bit on the knuckles, but the Bamboo Arrows I bought from Todd Mathis( Khans Arrows), are really great, no matter spine or weight, they fly great and straight! It improves my shooting a lot. I live in Spain half the year, and are camping in Sweden(my home land) in the spring/summer and autumn( I love the nature, hills, mountains, and its always green, due to many rainy days. Nevermind, I do some competions in sweden, and I have after 5 years found my best arrows in Cedar wood, but everything I have learned about wooden arrows, I could forget about, when it comes to Bamboo arrows. I love the Longbow shooting, and I really enjoy all your videos on 101Archery, on Sunday I will go to the Spanish shooting club to pay the yearly fee, and the licens, its so funny, I have a small shooting range in my tiny garden here in Spain, its only 18 yards, but its enough. Thanks for your answers, I really appreciate it, and I follow your intresting movies!!!
@elcazador9963
@elcazador9963 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot a samick recurve. I shoot 3 feathers off a rest. Basically the stick on tab. Should i be using veins?
@tomwarrick4945
@tomwarrick4945 5 жыл бұрын
Good job here
@Josesosajr1
@Josesosajr1 8 жыл бұрын
Hello, I just got a diamond prism bow 5-55 for Christmas and I have no clue what arrows to buy .. I can't see in the manual where it says about centers . do you have any clue about the arrow I would go with ? thanks
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
Go to Lancaster Archery and they have a chart that will show you what arrows to use.
@Josesosajr1
@Josesosajr1 8 жыл бұрын
I looked up the website and I only saw some DVD instructional videos for sale. you meant those?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
You went to the wrong site. Try this..... www.goldtip.com/arrowcontent.aspx?page=chart
@paulmullins4676
@paulmullins4676 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Ben Pearson Colt I bought over 50 years ago 43 lbs. Ever hear of it?😜 I want to shoot a fast mini diameter carbon at near full length cause I want to learn how to gap shoot or a-fixed crawl! Would be great if point on could be 25 yards. I have always shot instinctive and killed 9 whitetail but would like to use this bow. What suggestions do you have for arrows? I’m thinking Victory VAPs. Thanks
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 5 жыл бұрын
I own five Colt's from Ben Pearson. Know the bow well. I use Gold Tip Traditional XT's, love them. I have also used Carbon Express Predator II's with them (small shaft). Have never tried the micro's, so I could not tell you anything anout them, sorry.
@fminc1031
@fminc1031 5 жыл бұрын
best video Ever!!! thank you
@Tatorhead1234
@Tatorhead1234 7 жыл бұрын
okay, so when looking at the spine chart, under draw length, should we look for our draw length or arrow length?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 7 жыл бұрын
Draw Length.
@amigopheasantkiller
@amigopheasantkiller 8 жыл бұрын
New to this. But just like golf....no industry standard for shaft stiffness. Luckily, guys like you can translate this stuff into plain english.
@CaptainSharkbait
@CaptainSharkbait 8 жыл бұрын
there actually is a standard. the shaft stiffness is measured in spine, heavy compound bows use about spine 500, weaker recurve and longbows 700,800 (i use spine 800 for a 28 pound bow at a 28inch draw)
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
Most compounds use a 340, not a 500. There is no standard. One company calls it a 5575, another a 400 and another 300. That is not even mentioning Aluminium or wooden arrows.
@CaptainSharkbait
@CaptainSharkbait 8 жыл бұрын
Archery 101 oh thx that explains what the hugeley different numbers mean. its kindof strange though, everyone i ask sais something different. the guy at my local shop often contradicts the trainers and experienced people in my club and only very little of that actually matches what i read on the internet (and me being rather new to archery doesnt help that either) but what i can say about carbon arrows is that most companies (carbon impact, carbon express etc...) have a chart that includes bowtype,drawweight and drawlength and gives you the number you need for an arrow of their company
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
Most of the charts are off. Why? Because they do not take into account two things; How the bow is cut and string material. I learned this from Byron Ferguson, if you are not using a Fast Flight string, you should subtract five pounds from your draw weight on the arrow chart. Also, if you bow is NOT cut to center, you should subtract five pounds from your draw weight on the arrow chart. So if you have a 50 pound bow, and it is not cut to center and it is not using a fast flight string, you should really be looking for arrows for a 40 pound bow, not a 50. Big difference.
@HyperCazual
@HyperCazual 4 жыл бұрын
"Shot through the roof" *rimshot*
@rob14oct
@rob14oct 5 жыл бұрын
dam good video, but im going to watch it at least once more so I can take in all the info. ps...may be at least twice. rob
@philipsmith518
@philipsmith518 4 жыл бұрын
Really impressed by this video. I have a one piece recurve and only pulling 32lb, am i correct in thinking i need a 900 spine arrow with my 25" draw length. I have made some but they are only weighing 220grain. Hope someone can help.
@DenatBalla
@DenatBalla 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Video, it's very informative, but now I'm even more lost than before. Guess I'll just have to watch this a few more times before I get the answers I'm looking for. Your calculations for Carbon fiber seemed easy to figure out. Do I apply the same logic to Wooden arrows? For instance, I have a 35Lb bow at 28 draw. But I have no rest at all, I rest my arrows on my thumb, yes I know THUMB. I'm learning to shoot eastern style. Do I subtract 5lb for every 1/8th of an inch for it not being center cut? For example, if my arrow is about 1/2 inch from center that would be -20lb ..... making my 35/40(recommended wood arrow) into a 15/20 wood arrow?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 7 жыл бұрын
I have not used wooden arrows in years. I cannot tell you if those rules apply or not. sorry.
@leodegas7731
@leodegas7731 2 жыл бұрын
Six years later, does this info still apply or have companies or charts made it easier. Not buying, just learning about something I know nothing about. So far, I know the all around best inexpensive bow to buy on Amazon. Very interesting.✌️🦁
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 2 жыл бұрын
They have not changed the systems, enough to drive you crazy.
@leodegas7731
@leodegas7731 2 жыл бұрын
@@TradArchery101 🤣🤣🤣 Thank God for people like you on KZbin. Be blessed 🙏.
@knifesharpeningnorway
@knifesharpeningnorway 2 жыл бұрын
You should try the skylon radius pretty cheap and good quality
@SebastianDavidPB
@SebastianDavidPB 7 жыл бұрын
oh cock, and I was looking at dacron for replacement string, guess I'll pass that one and slap on some fast flights to see the difference
@wayneashby5030
@wayneashby5030 7 жыл бұрын
Careful, some bow limbs are not designed to handle the increased shock stresses resulting from the use of fast flight string. Be sure to research that for your bow type before switching over.
@ironpirate8
@ironpirate8 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this is interesting. I agree, the spining system is crazy - the deflection number would work for all materials. I'm not exactly a beginner, but I'm still confused. If arrow spines are measured at 28" and you leave them full length (32" on most wood shafts I think,) aren't they actually weaker than advertised? That's before you add a point, which weakens them further, right? So if you leave your arrows any longer than 28", should you buy a stiffer spine to allow for that? Also, I'm struggling to get my head around the "minus 5lbs for every 8th from centre" rule. For example I have a traditionally styled, modern bow - #47@28. The limbs are fibreglass and bamboo, and quite heavily recurved, so it shoots fast. But there is no arrow shelf - the arrow sits on my hand, half an inch from the centre of the bow, and it has a dacron string. So if I follow your rule, I calculate that my arrows need to be spined for 22lbs. That seems really weak for what the bow is, but again, if I cut them to 30" and add 100 grain points, should I start increasing that 22lbs? I don't like leaving arrows more than a couple of inches out the front at full draw - most people I have spoken to say that if you don't need the extra length, it's just dead weight which slows your arrow down a bit. I'd be interested if you have a different opinion though.
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
I was told and I cannot confirm this, is that the extra distance does not weaken the arrow. But I want to test it. The minus weight is for bows not cut too center, I got that from Byron Ferguson. I do not think it applies to bows with no shelf. The logic is sound though. Due to Archer's paradox, (the arrow not pointing at your target when at full draw) the arrow will need to flex to get around the riser. It really throws a wrench into what you think you should use i will say that much. I shoot a 47 pound bow with an overdraw, so it is closer to 50 pounds. I use 600 spine arrows, with a 200 grain point, that means the were still too stiff. I can easily shoot 800's out of that bow. That is not what the chart says i should use. But it is due to the cut. I have no problem with length, Howard Hill used a incredibly long arrow on his elephant hunt. I keep mine full length because I GAP shoot and that (the length of the arrow) affects the size of my GAP. Let me ask you this, your arrow is how many GPI? Most carbons are around 8 to 9. Sow that is how much more weight? It really is not enough to affect the speed of your arrow that much. The problem with starting with cut arrows is that you cannot get it back. Start full length, test it (bareshaft tune it) and then cut. Too many people just buy what they had before and cut it like the last group, which is not maximizing your equipment.
@ironpirate8
@ironpirate8 8 жыл бұрын
Archery 101 I would guess that the further the arrow protrudes from the bow at full draw, the weaker it is, because the point is the heaviest part, and the longer the arrow is, the more leverage it has when the arrow is loosed and starts to flex around the bow. Ok I see, that rule is for bows that aren't quite cut to centre, but as you say, maybe it also applies to bows with no shelf... again, just guessing, I would think it can't be a fixed number like 5lbs per 8th inch, maybe for a 20lb bow with no shelf, you could subtract 5lbs, for a 40lb bow you would subtract 2lbs and for a 50lb bow, 1lb per 8th inch. I'm just thinking out loud here, about the balance between a flexible enough arrow, and one that isn't going to shatter. I'm afraid I have no idea how many GPI my wooden arrows are, but I agree that the weight difference isn't a lot if they are full length. I do tend to start out with them full length, bare shaft test them, then cut them slowly down until they fly somewhere near right. For a bow from 40-50lbs with any kind of shelf, I have found that I need wooden shafts spined at 60-65lbs. It's all trial and error for me!
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
You are correct and I agree with you. The longer the weaker, especially when it comes to the affect of inertia. I think you are making good points on that. If it applies to bows with a shelf, why not to those with no shelf? I think you are doing it the right way. Every set of arrows I get, I start fresh, no set assumptions. I do whatever that set of arrows tell me to do.
@shi1483
@shi1483 6 жыл бұрын
Ur T-shirt says "eradicate".....cool
@grounded7362
@grounded7362 7 жыл бұрын
Another question! I have a 60 pound take down center shot re-curve. Shooting the same 26 inch short draw. Actual draw weight at the 26 inches is 55 pounds. Shooting 125 grain heads. I believe my string is a fastflight string. Is the 500 spine arrow correct?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 7 жыл бұрын
500 can work, I would say a 400 would be better. I shoot a 50 pound bow and use 600's.
@TheNockingPoint
@TheNockingPoint 8 жыл бұрын
I don't like the way that gopher is looking at me.
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
I could feel a bad vibe, now I know what it was! I will have a talk with him about respect, you can rest assured of that!
@SuperDiggy007
@SuperDiggy007 7 жыл бұрын
Ass
@boblawrence7195
@boblawrence7195 7 жыл бұрын
Archery 101 string waking
@h0tkoko
@h0tkoko 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg @archery101 . , what about bamboo arrows? What say you about them?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Krug has some and they flew great.
@charlesmccarthy2064
@charlesmccarthy2064 8 жыл бұрын
Ty great video
@lilljunior21
@lilljunior21 4 жыл бұрын
They used to attache carve pointed rocks and tree sticks with string and shoot 100 plus yards and hit the target. Meanwhile we spend $100 on arrows and can't hit a target 20 yards away.
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 4 жыл бұрын
They were also shooting at much larger targets.
@binaryvip
@binaryvip 8 жыл бұрын
Cool vid. Thanks
@yaoi698
@yaoi698 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vidro!
@grounded7362
@grounded7362 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 45 pound bow, NOT cut to center. Dead center at the top of the handle is 3/8 inch. So, if I understood you correctly I would reduce the draw weight by 15 pounds on the chart for each 1/8 inch off center for the correct spine of arrows! I am also using a dacron string! Reducing the draw weight at the chart another 5 pounds! My draw length is 26.8 inches, I short draw bringing be to roughly 26 inch draw length. Leaving me at 25 pound draw weight at the chart! I am not finding a chart that takes into consideration 25 pound draw weight. Did I understand you correctly on how much weight to drop at the chart?
@grounded7362
@grounded7362 7 жыл бұрын
I am also shooting 125 heads.
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 7 жыл бұрын
For that, I usually look for an arrow for a 35 pound bow. I know the rule says for every 1/8, but I have found it easier to just do five pounds for it not being cut to center.
@stevehuffman7453
@stevehuffman7453 3 жыл бұрын
What you need to know about arrows? Number one: Arrows are expensive. Number 2 if you shoot a damaged arrow it might have a catastrophic failure when you shoot, causing extensive damage to you and/or your bow. You should therefore inspect your arrow before loading and discard any that have a damaged shaft. 3) Use the right spine for the bow if you want the best accuracy. 4) Try not to "Robin Hood" your arrows. See Number 1, above. 5) Don't use wooden arrows with a compound bow or modern crossbow. They can shatter when shot. See number 2 above. 6) Aluminum, fiberglass, and carbon fiber arrows can be used with any type bow. 7) "Practice" arrows with replaceable points can be used for hunting, too. 8) As with everything else in life, buy the best you can afford.
@lionezekai9799
@lionezekai9799 4 жыл бұрын
So wait.. I’m new in archery and this videos blew my mind. I have a draw length of 28” and a #40 bow cut to center with a Dacron string. it’s okay that I’m using 400 spine carbon arrows?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 4 жыл бұрын
They will fly fine as long as your form is great. Any deviation and it will show. I shoot 600's out of my 40 pound bows, but that is just me.
@lionezekai9799
@lionezekai9799 4 жыл бұрын
Archery 101 thanks
@williamhamer998
@williamhamer998 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Archery 101just a quick question, when you say nock off 5lbs for dacron , does that apply to flatbows as well as recurves. archer11
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 7 жыл бұрын
From what I was told, yes it does.
@edrobinson8956
@edrobinson8956 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about fobs
@backyardarcher9471
@backyardarcher9471 8 жыл бұрын
This is great
@marnix786
@marnix786 8 жыл бұрын
great info there. if my drawlength is 27inches would i cut the shaft only to 27inches then add nick n point or less than 27inches so when i add the point and nock it totals to 27inches?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
Why not shoot full length? If you cut the arrow you stiffen it. Then the arrow you choose from the chart was the wrong arrow. You only cut the arrow if you have to.
@rubenv3026
@rubenv3026 8 жыл бұрын
With 600 spine arrows cut to 30" and a 60 gr insert shot out of a 34# 26.5" what point weight would you recommend?
@TradArchery101
@TradArchery101 8 жыл бұрын
Ruben I have no set preference. I start with the lowest weight and shoot a few then move up until I find the correct weight for straight flight. Everything i do depends on how the arrow flies.
@bobwebber8521
@bobwebber8521 4 жыл бұрын
Were you by any chance a gunnery instructor in the armed forces? Perhaps you should have been. Ha Ha. Excellent video, thought I knew a bit about archery but blow me down how wrong can I be. Think I will buy a gun instead.
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