Traditional Lube Added To Powder Coated 500 S & W Bullets??

[@keith9875]

Slow? Reloading ammunition for me is great therapy and I enjoy every aspect of the operation. You make some very informative and enjoyable videos, thank you.

[@vengenaceearly255]

Love it. I see you like the guy who wears both a belt and suspenders.. to make sure his pants stay up. Very wise. 😁👍

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

VE - Hah..!! Last time at the range, I was wearing sweat pants and the elastic was a bit loose - had to keep hitchin' 'em up like a cowpoke..!! Best to ya, Jeff... Steve

[@vengenaceearly255]

@@FortuneCookie45LC 👍 Powder coated , gas checked and lubed.. you take care of your bullets better than your own pants ! 😂😂

[@Anunnasboy]

Wow! Beautiful job.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Friendly sky - Thanks, but there's no trick to it...cast 'em nice... then Eastwood Mirror Red powder coat, size and gas check 'm and pressure in the lube...done..!! Have a great day, Steve

[@JeffinTD]

Interesting. I’ve just been experimenting myself, and found Eastwood clear followed by White Label canuba red lube gives easiest barrel clean up in a SAA of mine.

[@greglaroche1753]

That’s great FC, now we need to see a comparison with the same bullets without the lube. Let’s see if it makes a difference. Thanks for all your great videos. Comparing the two, would make a good video. Happy Memorial Day to you.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Greg La Roche - You are ahead of me on that one...the video is in the works...Have a great day, Steve

[@jabixl]

Thanks Steve I will look forward to your reply.JOE

[@JeffinTD]

I couldn’t find a follow-up video… did you ever do an accuracy comparison of powder coated vs powder coat with lube/gas check?

[@PyroRob69]

FC, I am glad to see you do this. I have always used the same luber you are using, and wanted to get into the PC lubing, but wondered if I had any issues, if I could still lube, without needing to re-melt the bullets. I also like using gas checks, but it seems PC doesn't lend itself to that easily.

[@chadsleight1805]

As always nice video , I've always thought this was a good idea I've just never seen anyone do it.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Chad Sleight - Like the video said - I got the idea from long ago when this writer put out an article about tumble lubing jacketed bullets... Have a great day, Steve

[@mkshffr4936]

Would love to see some testing of powder coated bullets over black powder both with and without BP lube.

[@thecainer64]

How did they turn out? I have wondered if this would be better than just powder coated alone. I had really great success with tumble lubing. The liquid alox, or 45/45/10 may look less pretty than the powder coated bullets, but man do they shoot amazing. I have had no leading whatsoever in my .30-06 sized to .309. I do usually run a gas check just because of velocity to prevent gas cutting, but I have found most times a proper alloy to bullet size diameter works fine even without gas checks at standard cast bullet velocities. I figure its best to be safe though. No one who has ever seen the bore of my .30-06 believes I only fire cast bullets in it. I think there is a lot of bad press on cast bullets. Love the channel my friend. Blessings in Christ from all of us at Alive Ministries USA. Praying for this Nation! Praying for you Sir.

[@stewstew9756]

Do you have any experience loading berrys 350gr bullets for the 500?

[@darkspire91]

Have you ever considered trying bullet swaging? Turning brass into bullet casings seems really interesting.

[@svendavison]

i need to look up some stuff but at what point is it a required to use a gas check instead of just a good idea? Example: I have a 220gr bullet mold for 308 used in 300 blackout. i dont push it too fast but waht if i wanted to throw it out of 308 win for example? 1200.. 1500.. 2000 fps.. wheres that magical line?

[@kenhelmers2603]

Looking good! :)

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Ken - Thanks, Ken - they turned out just fine...and that linotype is a nice hard alloy for the big 50... Best to ya, Steve

[@jimmypage4753]

FC i'd like to see you run these in your beowulf :)

[@greylocke100]

I've had an idea for a .357/.358 bullet using a hard cast base inserted into a jacket then being swaged with soft lead at the point. The swager, would size the bullet and crimp the jacket in to hold the base and the soft lead together. Does that sound feasible to you?

[@danielwatters1203]

I've heard of folks casting two-piece bullets with different alloys for each section.

[@greylocke100]

@@danielwatters1203 I have as well. I've known a few people who have done it, however as velocities get higher, the weak point becomes the jackets. One gentleman told me that above 930-950 fps the jackets would fail constantly. That's what made me think of a hard cast base, with a swaged in core and swaged on jacket. The mechanical bonding would be much more even leading to fewer jacket separations and allowing higher velocities.

[@greglaroche1753]

For Linotype alloy, try Roto Metals.

[@danielwatters1203]

@@greylocke100 - I was thinking something more like this old article from Ross Seyfried. Per Seyfried, his casting technique kept the two sections fused together. I would imagine that the resulting projectiles would also perform fine with powder coating or even the use of a gas-check. www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/article.cfm?magid=71&tocid=974

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

greylocke100 - Swaging our own bullets was done back in the CH Dies and Corbin dies back in the 70s and 80s - was an alternative to bullet casting. That practice has fallen out of favor, probably because the dies were so expensive. But certainly, you can do such things. We don't need that for our handguns, but for rifle shooting - it's the velocity that will expand the bullets. Today's jacketed handgun bullets are pure lead cores and the rifle bullets are soft lead alloy cores. Too hard makes manufacturing more difficult. You are trying to make a Partition type bullet with your concept to maintain weight while expanding. Our jacketed bullet makers have been able to accomplish that with varying thicknesses of bullet jackets to effect the same - expansion yet weight retention. Swaging jacketed bullets down has a problem in that when the jackets are swaged down, they spring back just a bit while the lead cores do not. Swaging up the bullets (instead of swaging them down) has been the way the factories give us the good jacketed bullets we have today (unless the Hot Core concepts used by Speer are done where the cores are basically soldered to the inside of the jackets. Your home done jacketed bullets are in the same category as trying to cast a cast bullet with a hard base and a soft nose - very difficult to get consistency. But if you are successful your process might be interesting to other shooters. Best to ya, Steve

[@nickjm37fordel1]

Hey Steve after the Lee sizing the RCBS press is only used to lube the bullet ?

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Nick J - No need to double the work, Lee size 'em with out lube or use the RCBS and lube 'em at the same time...one thing is though, the Lee sizer needs a spritz of case lube before sizing or it's really a bad chore. With the RCBS, there's lube in the die from the bullet lube already, so just run 'em through and put the gas check and lube on at the same time. Have a great day, Steve

[@nickjm37fordel1]

@@FortuneCookie45LC Thank you, have a great week end :-)

[@jackiemanasco4658]

Great video! What’s a good source for linotype alloy? Can it be purchased commercially?

[@jackiemanasco4658]

d' Bongocero thanks for the info!

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Jackie Manasco - Yes RotoMetals has been in business selling alloys to bullet casters for 80 years - that's some track record - plus their alloys are certified and if over $100 order, there's no shipping... Have a great day, FC Steve

[@jackiemanasco4658]

FortuneCookie45LC thanks!

[@Namerifrats]

Check out Sage's Outdoors for gas checks. Another great source. They carry 50 cal also, just got an order of them the other day for my 500 S&W. They sell copper and aluminium gas checks.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Namerifrats - Yes on Sage's Outdoors. Eventually, I'll try them and their Gator gas checks. But purchasing 600 gas checks from Matt's Bullets should hold me for a while... Best to ya, Steve

[@jabixl]

FC 45LC can you tell me if the lee factory crimp die will work for the 45 schofield

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

ja bixl - Since I use my RCBS Cowboy Die Set for 45 Colt / 45 Schofield to load the Schofield, I haven't even checked to see if my Lee Carbide Factory 45 Colt Crimp Die will work on the Schofield...It is not specified that it does. I'll have to check this for you tonight after work. Have a great day, FC Steve

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

ja bixl - Pleased to report to you that the Lee Carbide 45 Colt Factory Crimp Die crimps the 45 Schofield just fine...this is good news, indeed.... Best to ya, FC Steve

[@jabixl]

@@FortuneCookie45LC I talked to john Lee at Lee today and said that at this time Lee doesn't make a factory crimp but instructed me on how to crimp the Schofied in the long colt I will let you know how this works out ! Joe AKA leverman336

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

ja bixl - John Lee is a gentleman. I've had contact with him myself as well as his brother Andy (head of casting division). The Lee 45 Scofield set seater die crimps the Schofield case as is usual with die sets - but I just tried with 45 Schofield brass and the Carbide 45 Colt Factory Crimp Die does crimp the Schofield no problemo. We're in business... FC Steve

[@ericlaird7508]

I keep seeing folk's putting gas check's on their powder coated bullet's, do I have to do this ?

[@colsoncustoms8994]

From what I have heard, a bullet designed for a gas check will potentially be more accurate with them in place. If you were doing fast rifle bullets, It would probably be good added protection as well.

[@ericlaird7508]

@@colsoncustoms8994 Will do,when I start making my 55 grain Lee mold...this will be my practice!............

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Eric Laird - The reports from others is that the 500 S & W Maggie needs gas checks on this Lee 440 grain bullet to allow accuracy...We shall see... On other calibers, some gas check design bullets shoot very well without the gas checks. Note that Elmer Keith never designed any of his Maggie bullets to take gas checks because at 1500fps, they are not really needed. Have a great day, FC Steve

[@ericlaird7508]

@@FortuneCookie45LC Thank's FC Steve!........

[@ZERO_42069]

great video, i get my 50 cal gas checks from NOE

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Josue Guzman - Never occurred to me to get 'em there - I do business with NOE so that's another option...Have a great day, Steve

[@wolfgangn.2020]

Question,new reloader here, why could you not use Rust-Oleum high performance enamel spray paint?

[@saviostrawn8737]

Powder coated, gas checked, and lubed? You forgot to coat them in 45/45/10!

[@paulettehilk6874]

I shoot the same bullet in red powder Coat don’t lube them no leading problem.