Trae Young Is The Best Passer In The NBA

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TheKidshere

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@icrashout
@icrashout 28 күн бұрын
Trae Young is so underrated that it’s a crime, he needs to be talked about more
@Lewie-f1w
@Lewie-f1w Ай бұрын
It’s also pretty cool to see the hawks play him off ball to and him not chucking up 30 shots a game
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Ай бұрын
I heard he's been playing on a nagging injury this season that's why he's become more of a facilitator and his stats other than assists have all dropped due to that fact..not sure what to believe but don't be surprised to see him begin to drop pure baskets again in the near future
@Lewie-f1w
@Lewie-f1w Ай бұрын
@@boondockbwoy14yes he has a Achilles inflammation that he’s been playing through, but also Larry nance that said they have designed a lot of plays wit a “decoy Trae” so he’s I think gonna be more of a playmaker this season being a shot decoy, but I think when it is fully healed he will shoot more
@bigzaksnak9998
@bigzaksnak9998 Ай бұрын
@@boondockbwoy14I feel like he’s also accepting this new role so sure he can go back to getting buckets but this team is a it’s best when he mostly play makes so he’ll now score when the opportunity presents itself but is really looking to get assists
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Ай бұрын
@@bigzaksnak9998 Indeed you may absolutely be right on point with that boss..he's now unlocked his faciltating power to the MAXIMUM..his whole squad feeds off of him and he'll always be ready to drop them dimes whenever the opportunity presents itself like he's been doin..but just wait til those buckets that he's missing start falling because we all know in time they will once he's back at FULL strength 🥶
@kiccz39
@kiccz39 Ай бұрын
Idk why people sleep on trae 🤦‍♂️ hes a top 5 PG rn
@thekidshere6955
@thekidshere6955 Ай бұрын
Easily top 5
@Erickdav15
@Erickdav15 Ай бұрын
Facts
@Mrscamtron
@Mrscamtron Ай бұрын
Can be replaced with any other point and have the same outcome
@kiccz39
@kiccz39 Ай бұрын
@@Mrscamtron 😂😂😂
@Kentarius
@Kentarius Ай бұрын
@@MrscamtronL bait😂😂😂
@majestyzx9081
@majestyzx9081 Ай бұрын
Trae's at his best driving, floating, and passing off the Pick and Roll. When he starts jacking up threes late in close games has been a problem throughout his career. When he's on, through 20 and his assists he can easily effect half of the points his team scores in a night. Dude was a monster in Lloyd Pierce's Spanish P&R offense.
@dirtybirdxx
@dirtybirdxx Ай бұрын
2021 he was a dog from 3 idk wtf happened
@Sup_bro23
@Sup_bro23 Ай бұрын
Pick and roll master. Great shooter and floor general.
@dirtybirdxx
@dirtybirdxx Ай бұрын
Great shooter is false lol...he's a hellava playmaker tho for sure
@anb8946
@anb8946 Ай бұрын
Been saying it for years. Good video.
@Joeman_Joeman
@Joeman_Joeman Ай бұрын
Shout-out to his teammates for knocking them down
@adamwatson2132
@adamwatson2132 Ай бұрын
This is facts from top to bottom.
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Totally skipped the fact where Trae is leading the NBA in turnovers. For like the 5th year of his career or some dumb shit. Still the highest volume shooter on his own team, with trash tier efficiency too. At least this year some of the players around him are somehow less efficient. Usually he has been the least efficient player on his whole damn team.
@LLH952
@LLH952 Ай бұрын
He’s by far the best passer on the league but his efficiency and TO rate is a huge concern
@pdlee6567
@pdlee6567 Ай бұрын
No. It's not. Look at the all time turnover list. There is a reason why he has a lot of TOs and it's because he has the ball most of the time.
@thenorthremembers728
@thenorthremembers728 Ай бұрын
​@@pdlee6567His efficiency is a concern rn. But his shot just isn't falling it will start falling eventually.
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS Ай бұрын
his efficiency is being fucked by playing thru an achilles injury (not a tear but a smaller injury) u can see the mechanics on his jumper are slightly different and his drives are even more stunted than before. no idea why hes doing this besides the league pressuring him to cuz nobody will watch hawks games if trae sits all audacious passers have high turnover rates, especially with the difficulty of delivery on traes passes due to his stature
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Best passer? Leading the league in turnovers per game, per 100, and per 36. Yeah, that's stupid. Chris Paul is still a better passer, Tyus Jones is a better passer for fucks sake. Also shooting TRASH TIER efficiency this year. Like never a good shooter, especially low IQ shot selection. Now he's chocking up 20 shots per game, on actual garbage percentages.
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS Ай бұрын
@ what elite passer has a low turnover rate?
@James-cq5sy
@James-cq5sy Ай бұрын
I love watching teams try to trap Trae! He makes the right read EVERY time!
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Yeah, everytime. That's why he leads the league in turnovers, and is shooting terrible efficiency. But hey, they're staying above 500 in a really bad eastern conference, so Atlanta fans can keep pretending like they don't know what winning basketball actually looks like.
@Jordee-B
@Jordee-B 23 күн бұрын
@@mitchtherevolution i see you hating on trae under every comment i hope your not a knicks fan
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution 23 күн бұрын
@Jordee-B New York and Philadelphia are both clown ass, trash tier franchises, with absolute garbage fanbases. I thoroughly enjoyed Trae's performance in the New York series, and I love watching anyone embarrass Philadelphia, especially frauds lile Ben Simmons and Embiid. I just recognize that beating an irrelevant, non-competitive franchise, and a wildly overhyped Philadelphia, isn't actually any indication that Atlanta or Trae Young are actually capable of competing for a Championship.
@Jordee-B
@Jordee-B 22 күн бұрын
@@mitchtherevolution no shit the hawks arent going to the finals this year but trae is only 26, dyson is 21 and has been playing like the best defender in the league. risacher is a 19yo rookie showing some promise and jalen johnson is 22 and looks like mini bron. the hawks have been playing great recently and these players are only gonna get better season after season. even in a couple months from now we know dyson zacch and jalen will be better. if they keep these 4 they will be contenders in a year or two
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution 22 күн бұрын
@Jordee-B I don't care if Trae is only 26. He will NEVER be a starting point guard on a contending team. Johnson is looking like the best player on the team at this point, hardly Bronlike though. Hawks are barely above 500, sure. But 10 of the best 12 teams are in the West this year.
@4ktkaram395
@4ktkaram395 Ай бұрын
Top 12 player in the league
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Bahahahahaha. Top 12 players have good shooting efficiency and don't lead the NBA in turnovers per everything. Trae has been a below average shooter his entirw career, low IQ shot selection, and he has been a turnover machine year after year. Top 12 can also defend the ball better than a 39 year old Chris Paul. This seaspn his efficiency went from bad, to fucking atrocious. His efficiency probably dropped because Quinn Snyder hurt his fragile ego by making him take less shots.
@JustAnAccountLmao810
@JustAnAccountLmao810 Ай бұрын
Difference between him and, Luka , Hali & jokic .. is Trae doing the same thing at 6 inches shorter…
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Luka and Harden never shot below league average efficiency rates in their entire career. Trae only shot above average efficiency one year, and he is usually far below league average. That was before Trae's efficiency fell off a cliff this year. Luka is a legitimately good player. Harden used to be. Trae was never a good player, he never played winning basketball. If you're a high volume shooter, then you need to be shooting AT LEAST average efficiency. Trae has been the least efficienct pkayer on his own team most of his career, chocking up 20+ shots a game. That is loosing basketball, and it's absurd that Atlanta front office was stupid enough to let that shit happen as long as it did. Fortunately his volume also went down with his reduced efficiency, but he still takes way too many shots. I suspect his efficiency is ass, after Snyder effectively made him stop lobbing up soo many stupid contested shots.
@JustAnAccountLmao810
@JustAnAccountLmao810 Ай бұрын
@ last time I checked this convo was about playmaking ? And Trae has always had above league average true shooting besides his rookie season.
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
​​​ No, he has not, most seasons Trae is the least efficiency guy on his team. (Among players who actually get minutes) Trae has only shot above league average percentages one season, I believe it was his second year, pleas look it up before you just say shit. You want to talk playmaking, what's his assist to turnover rate the is year? Because his assist to turnover rate has been bad every single year of his career. By the numbers, accounting for volume, Tyus Jones is a MUCH better playmaker than Trae Young. There are lota of PG's who are better playmakers than Tyus Jones, I just picked one young PG that doesnt get alot attention or hype, that I KNOW is stastically better than Trae Young when adjusted for possesion, volume and usage. Because usage and volume isn't a measure of how good you do something, it just measures how often. Trae does it more than anyone, he doesn't do anything at an elite level. He doesn't do most things at an average level, most of game is below average across the board. The only thing thats exceptional about Trae Young, is why Atlanta was ever stupid enough to try to build around a player that plays fundamentally losing basketball
@JustAnAccountLmao810
@JustAnAccountLmao810 Ай бұрын
@ you have no idea what TRUE SHOOTING percentage is sir. Good day.
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
​@@JustAnAccountLmao810 NBA League Average, True Shooting percentage is 57.4% this season. Trae Young is 54.0 TS%. Squarely, BELOW AVERAGE. Meaning, it is stupid for him to be taking 20 shots a game.
@TherealDexterMorgan
@TherealDexterMorgan Ай бұрын
Goat 🐐
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Goat of what exactly?
@TherealDexterMorgan
@TherealDexterMorgan Ай бұрын
@ everything he does
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
@@TherealDexterMorgan Trae isn't even the best foul baiter. Extremely overrated player, bad shooting efficiency his entire career, terrible efficiency this year, leads the league in turnovers for multiple seasons, and he is a worse defender than 39 year old Chris Paul. Yeah, if you think that's the goat of anything, then you're mentally disabled.
@HandsomeBoyGarion
@HandsomeBoyGarion 15 күн бұрын
His Ass looking 39 years old Out there in the Damn League
@oledei
@oledei Ай бұрын
Double double on underdog every time🤑🤑
@TezMalone-u7z
@TezMalone-u7z Ай бұрын
You should do a vid on Tyrese Halliburton
@sssamui286
@sssamui286 Ай бұрын
so far this season traes the second best passer in the league and the only reason why hes not the best is bc jokic is a better passer than anyone except for magic johnson
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Trae Young is leading the NBA in turnovers for like the fifth year. Tyus Jones is a better passer for fucks sake. Trae fans only want to look at the volume, oh look how MANY assists he makes, look how MANY points he scores. Ya'll just want to ignore how he is a huge turnover machine, or how he is atrociously inefficient for such a high volume shooter. If Trae Young was really that good of a Point Gaurd, then why doesn't Atlanta have a good offense? Atlanta only has a winning record and 6th seed at this point because half of the Eastern Conference is literal dogshit right now. Team didn't even get better, the East just got worse.
@ChucKxsh
@ChucKxsh 26 күн бұрын
​@@mitchtherevolutionTBF to trae jokic is only average 1 less turnover per game
@brucebaker-s8p
@brucebaker-s8p Ай бұрын
Def rating of 121.5 last year… easily bottom five in the nba. It’s not flashy like 3s and dimes, but it’s just as important. Gotta play on both ends to be great.
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Bigger defensive liability than Chris Paul, who is 39 years old and a full inch shorter. Trae isn't even a great playmaker, shooter, or decision maker. Trae clearly isn't even the best player on his own team, and the Hawks aren't actually good. They're barely above 500 in conference where the teams are terrible.
@brucebaker-s8p
@brucebaker-s8p 28 күн бұрын
@@mitchtherevolution I'd have to agree with you. the Sporting News rated him 10th among the 30 starting PGs last year, and that's hardly elite, let alone best. He is showing improvement in both playmaking and decision making this year... maybe now with improved talent around him, he can take the next step. But he absolutely has to learn how to at least not be such a huge liability on defense.
@Scarfo_
@Scarfo_ Ай бұрын
I hope that he come to the Spurs
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Wemby needs a teammate who is actually good. Trae Young plays fundamentally losing basketball.
@salvell
@salvell Ай бұрын
Steve Nash
@J-Hue
@J-Hue Ай бұрын
Nash couldn't get double digit assists without D'antoni's system. On his own, in any other offense, he was just a good passer.
@salvell
@salvell Ай бұрын
@ bro Steve Nash was an MVP hof he got out there and played
@adamwatson2132
@adamwatson2132 Ай бұрын
Steve Nash + halfcourt bombs
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS Ай бұрын
@@J-Hueyou huff paint
@rb-go6wt
@rb-go6wt Ай бұрын
He need to get out of Atlanta quick time tbh otherwise we’ll see another dame situation I feel
@finessethaprofit7325
@finessethaprofit7325 17 күн бұрын
I cringe every time this dude does his little hesi carry. When you can carry 4 times in one possession you’re unguardable.
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Great passers don't lead the league in turnovers. Trae is a career 2.3 assists/turnover. Even with his volume and usage, that isn't great, it actually isn't even good for a gaurd. Chris Paul was averaging 4.2 assists per turnover with the Clippers. Most of these kids don't have any idea what an elite passing gaurd even is.
@rockysalvatore7352
@rockysalvatore7352 Ай бұрын
Thy don't like him bc his complete pg play makes curry fans insecure
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Bahahaha, yeah, Curry fans are super jealous of all those bricks and all those championships that Trae will never win. They just wish Curry would shoot garbage efficiency while leading the NBA in turnovers. Man I love Curry, I just really wish he was bad shooter with low basketball IQ, and turned the ball over twice as often. Bahahaha, what an incredibly stupid thing to say.
@Kodreanu23
@Kodreanu23 Ай бұрын
The question remains what would his game look like with stricter calls for cary.
@thekidshere6955
@thekidshere6955 Ай бұрын
Im mixed on this… because literally every player uses that outside pocket dribble, witch on paper is a carry. But then your gonna be spamming calls on Luka, kyrie, Chris Paul, and every advanced playmaker out of pick and roll. And maybe that will clean up the game, but your then missing a bunch of entertaining and dynamite plays
@Kodreanu23
@Kodreanu23 Ай бұрын
@@thekidshere6955 no, I am not talking about that dribble (Iverson cary). I am talking about how late he actually makes the dribble in order to not be a travel. I see this Brunson does also. Sometimes is almost three four steps with one dribble.
@marqicewalker1766
@marqicewalker1766 Ай бұрын
@@Kodreanu23He does it a lot but if the call him for that I’d lose my shit. They already made rules specifically for him and harden and don’t even use those same rules for Brunson doing the same shit. Luka embiid and fucking SGA gets away with so much bull shit it ain’t even fair.
@Kodreanu23
@Kodreanu23 Ай бұрын
@@marqicewalker1766 we think a like. I would really like to bring NBA rules to FIBA rules and let's see who's who.
@marqicewalker1766
@marqicewalker1766 Ай бұрын
@@Kodreanu23 Hell yeah
@steph899
@steph899 Ай бұрын
The crazy thing is that he’s certainly NOT the best passer in the league but he’s a legitimate all-time level passer. IMO at best he’s third behind Jokic and Luka and arguably LeBron but he’s a top 10 passer of all-time lock for me. Just shows you how crazy the talent in the league actually is.
@thekidshere6955
@thekidshere6955 Ай бұрын
Those are all fair points
@J-Hue
@J-Hue Ай бұрын
You have no verifiable reason to say he's behind either of those players as a passer. He averages more assists overall and doesn't have the height and what not to see over the defense nearly how the other two do.
@steph899
@steph899 Ай бұрын
@@J-Hue yeah unfortunately there’s only really the eye test to make any of these statements so this will all be subjective but I’ll explain my points. IMO Trae is the 3rd best passer in the league. I think LeBron is a better passer all-time but 1. Lebron is older now and the passing windows aren’t as open and 2. We’re talking about hilariously good passers. If you have Trae ahead of LeBron that’s totally understandable. However I’d pretty strongly say Jokic and Luka are better passers than Trae right now. I’ll skip the stats because imo they’re all too close for this convo. Trae is more pass-first than Luka because Luka is a much better scorer and utilizes it more so Trae’s assist rates look better, Jokic plays a completely different style from the other 2 so pure assists or assist/TO doesn’t help and turnovers are murky because you have to take scoring into account. Luka is less affected by doubles and has one of the tightest handles ever so his turnovers are lower than Trae’s despite the passing variety of both and willingness to throw crazy dangerous passes being pretty similar. So Jokic is no.1 for me and pretty clearly. His style as a big man leads to his passing being deadlier because he can dime up cutters for layups more on a standstill. Also, he just makes the right pass so often. Seriously he can go weeks without missing a cutter and his court-mapping given his style of play as a handoff hub(which is more dynamic than Trae and Luka’s style makes the passes he can throw due to the court mapping more effective on kickouts( although he and Luka are pretty equal there IMO.) He has a pretty clear case for best passer ever imo. Luka vs Trae: The extra height for Luka is why I think he’s a better passer. He has more passing angles against double teams and added with his better handle, you can’t trap him or pressure his passes basically at all. Luka beats Trae in some other areas and Trae in others but it really comes down to the fact that Trae’s passes can get tipped while Luka can always make a decision that always stops his passes from being tipped. So Luka and Trae are the 2 great passers ever at blending their shooting into lobs. To me Luka is better at it because he’s more in control which pressures the big more to make a decision ( bonus Trae points for frequency of trying it) but both are in a tier of their own. As pick and roll operators I’d call it a tie for passing. Both can make every read in the book with any hand and consistently do it, Luka is a better court mapper which is why his behind the back passes are possible but Trae’s shooting range really strings out defenders and leads to more structural breakdowns which he exploits well. Both are endlessly creative. Luka improvises better in large part because he’s more under control but Trae is more creative with his decisions which shows up in all those wild between the legs passes that he literally planned to do from the start. Manipulation could go either way. Watching Luka’s manipulation is more fun for me because of his scoring and the helplessness that defenders feel but Trae’s manipulation especially with how strung out the defense already is incredibly effective. Another case of no.1 and no.2 best ever at eye manipulation( could go either way). Neither has the passing variety of a LeBron, Magic or Jokic( with the post ups) and that shows up most in their lack of extra passing and extra passing skills. LeBron and Jokic( add Bird here) make immediate passes in a way that neither Luka nor Trae can. Trae adds the extra layer of his passing windows getting cut off more which is why I’d have him 3rd at best but again…he’s a top 10 lock ever for me.
@waff6ix
@waff6ix Ай бұрын
@@steph899GREAT EXPLANATION BRO 💯👍🏾
@leif5861
@leif5861 Ай бұрын
@@steph899 An extremely rare insightful youtube comment. Luka may well be a better overall passer than Trae, but talking "skill", what Trae does for Atlanta while being barely 6'0 sets him over Luka for me. Jokic is a freak though. Not only the best big passer, but he will end up as the greatest passer ever, I agree wholeheartedly. As a diehard Hawks fan, I'll never pass up a chance to shout my boy out. Someday, when fans reevaluate this era of basketball, maybe 15 years from now, I wonder if they'll call Trae "the last true PG". This decade, the only short PGs drafted in the lottery ( < 6'3) are Kira Lewis Jr. (2020) and Davion Mitchell (2021) - both of these dudes are washes. For now, Ja, Garland, Brunson are still carrying the torch somewhat, but none of the young guards are as joyful of passers as Trae. I can see him being #2 on the assist lists by the time he retires. He's been steadily averaging 9-10 apg, and this year it Quin and the Hawks have a roster/scheme that allow him to enjoy himself more as facilitator. He could average several 13 APG seasons (crossing my fingers that Zacch becomes an elite shooter/Dyson learns to shoot 33%+). Never going to take Trae for granted.
@nycnow811
@nycnow811 Ай бұрын
FG% 39.3 3p% 31.7
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
You forgot he's leading the league in turnovers, and he's a bigger defensive liability than 39 year old Chris Paul.
@bossyk0
@bossyk0 Ай бұрын
Best passing pg maybe, best passer and playmaker in the nba is jokic
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
He is absolutely not the best passer. Trae is a 2.5 assist per turnover gaurd. That isn't even particularly good for a gaurd, it certainly isn't close to elite or the best. Chris Paul is 39 and still averages more than 4 assists per turnover, on similar usage per 36.
@FirstnameLastname-qb2bg
@FirstnameLastname-qb2bg Ай бұрын
But he's ranked #68 in assist/to ratio though.
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
Trae Young fans only care about volume. They actually think he's a good shooter for fucks sake. Atlanta fans aren't even smart enough to undestand shooting percentages. They just see big numbers, and that's as far as they can comprehend.
@sunghan8324
@sunghan8324 Ай бұрын
Should defenses stop blitzing him and live with his shaky shooting?
@harrislaurent429
@harrislaurent429 Ай бұрын
the shooting is shaky because of the blitzes
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS Ай бұрын
maybe right now cuz of his injury but long term no teams should be full court pressing a healthy trae its safer to force the role players to beat you
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Ай бұрын
​@@harrislaurent429 He was never a good shooter.
@jaaifromatl4907
@jaaifromatl4907 29 күн бұрын
@@harrislaurent429 nd cuz he shoot contested logo 3s every time he shoot people don’t take that in
@Kng_12.12
@Kng_12.12 29 күн бұрын
id put ja over him ngl
@skimmy93
@skimmy93 Ай бұрын
It’s pretty clear to me that you trade Trae and reset around Jaylen Johnson and company. Move that burden elsewhere
@babyzorilla
@babyzorilla Ай бұрын
You trade the best facilitator in the NBA and build around a bunch of young inexperienced players? Exit stage left bro.
@kylanfleming9362
@kylanfleming9362 Ай бұрын
Idiotic twke
@4ktkaram395
@4ktkaram395 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah trade the walking 25 and 12 who is leading the team to a top 6 seed lol
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Ай бұрын
I smell a casual
@InsidiousFork
@InsidiousFork Ай бұрын
33% from 3 and averaging 5 turnovers a night lmao dude is so overrrated and jokic is a way better playmaker and passer
@harrislaurent429
@harrislaurent429 Ай бұрын
one is 7 foot and one is barely 6 feet?
@kylanfleming9362
@kylanfleming9362 Ай бұрын
12/5 assist to turnover ratio is still pretty good little bro
@marqicewalker1766
@marqicewalker1766 Ай бұрын
High turnovers because the team is constantly ass with no ball handlers😂😂😂 Hawks gonna forever be trash until they get a real GM
@InsidiousFork
@InsidiousFork Ай бұрын
@@harrislaurent429 why does that matter? If anything it should be even more impressive a 7 footer is doing it than a dude who’s barely 6 ft
@harrislaurent429
@harrislaurent429 Ай бұрын
@@InsidiousFork maybe cuz the 7 footer can actually see over the defense and is harder to double?😭
@MrThrock09
@MrThrock09 Ай бұрын
Well, while Tre, is it fine playmaker there’s another Du that’s just behind him and making plays but he’s also leading the league in scoring and rebounding which makes his playmaking more significant because he’s doing more also three blocks shots and three steals game. Do I have to say his name I don’t think so.
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