Tragedy of Lebanon,carved in constitutional sectarianism & caught in Israel-Hezbollah-Palestine trap

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@ThePrintIndia
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@kmbonjovifan
@kmbonjovifan Жыл бұрын
As elections come closer, Mr Gupta seems to become more overtly propagandist Appreciate how he can make a propaganda video under the mask of a pseudo sermon, giving the example of a distant, failed state with many complex problems of its own...
@dilipapte205
@dilipapte205 Жыл бұрын
0yc
@Bhuyan_G
@Bhuyan_G Жыл бұрын
​@@kmbonjovifanExactly 😂
@sahilbharti7047
@sahilbharti7047 Жыл бұрын
Even Tamilnadu did it. Gupta ji.
@rajatdeeprana
@rajatdeeprana Жыл бұрын
کبھی جاں اور کبھی تسلیم جاں ہے زندگی
@parvadhami980
@parvadhami980 Жыл бұрын
The Christians declined to become a minority in Lebanon. Muslim Palestinian people poured into Lebanon. The demographics changed and lead to Civil war
@satishchandraGK
@satishchandraGK Жыл бұрын
Wish he had explained how Christians became minority in Lebanon
@rajx7120
@rajx7120 Жыл бұрын
Palestinians have high birth rates. That's why Israel wants to keep them out. They are not stupid. Lebanon took them in, and sufferred. Even Egypt doesn't want them.
@lovekanaujia345
@lovekanaujia345 Жыл бұрын
Gupta hid that beautifully with his eloquent presentation Such a Muslim bootlicker
@satishchandraGK
@satishchandraGK Жыл бұрын
@@rajx7120 Same with Jordan. They had trouble with Palestinians and put down few thousands of them with help of Pak army. Black September.
@nko0nko0
@nko0nko0 Жыл бұрын
An Islamic terrorist state can't survive. They don't know how to govern. Inflation poverty can be rest assured. From childhood they are taught that they are born to die not to live. Example Pakistan, Seria, Lebanon, Palastine, jorden
@bappadityadas2170
@bappadityadas2170 Жыл бұрын
Mr Gupta Told everything but consciously suppressed how within few decades Lebanon became Muslim majority from Christian majority and what others can learn from this.
@rrrkk
@rrrkk Жыл бұрын
That's normal for him, "obvious".. But if in a relatively poor country like India, somewhere someplace a poor law & order situation happens, more specifically a Muslim is a once in a while victim, he gets all preachy
@salabh2389
@salabh2389 Жыл бұрын
What do you think he was given Padma Bhushan for?
@amj.composer
@amj.composer Жыл бұрын
Biased Stories?
@Grand-Rose
@Grand-Rose Жыл бұрын
Especially considering the demographic trends even he didn't deny, you'd think it was important.....
@pradipray1251
@pradipray1251 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right.
@psnatarajan6131
@psnatarajan6131 Жыл бұрын
Indian secular nationalism prevails so long as Hindus are in majority.
@SidhantDhagare
@SidhantDhagare Жыл бұрын
That's why we need more atheist people.
@Grand-Rose
@Grand-Rose Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed. Israel's not the only democracy in the middle East without reason.
@bhinbhinkaka6514
@bhinbhinkaka6514 Жыл бұрын
​@@SidhantDhagareatheists are never nationalists and are disloyal.
@SidhantDhagare
@SidhantDhagare Жыл бұрын
@@bhinbhinkaka6514 atheist muslims are more nationalist than muslims because they hate islamic Islamic cuntry
@yiyer1988
@yiyer1988 Жыл бұрын
Hindus have been the majority all along but we haven’t seen anything adverse. Comparing a shitty Lebanon with India itself is wrong.
@sumeettanwar1608
@sumeettanwar1608 Жыл бұрын
Love how he don't tell us how many Christians used to be in Lebanon before demography change and a civil war 6:25 They never forget their agenda.
@nirmalwagh920
@nirmalwagh920 Жыл бұрын
yes he didn't tell how Palestinians entered and changed demographic structure of Lebanon
@viswanathrolla5320
@viswanathrolla5320 Жыл бұрын
C'mon do you expect Sekhar to tell this truth
@tommythomsen2507
@tommythomsen2507 Жыл бұрын
Woh hawk hai aur hawk rahenge
@sanjaychauhan1116
@sanjaychauhan1116 Жыл бұрын
Thats why i will prefer chinas 🇨🇳one party system bcz them they dont have to play divide and rule game and focus on development. Regarding freedom of speech and expression, vo to aaj bhi utni nahi hai . I want BJP to take over India 🇮🇳 and implement one party system else Congress and other leftist party will destroy india and they will make islamic india
@satishchandraGK
@satishchandraGK Жыл бұрын
This is the problem with Indian so called left! Until early 70s Lebanon was a Christian majority nation. Trouble started when they lost the majority status and most Christians migrated to west. Lesson for India is to remain Hindu majority so that all Indians can live in peace
@harshb747
@harshb747 Жыл бұрын
Guptaji thinks we all suffer from insomnia that's why he uploads at midnight. He is not wrong though 😢
@prakhartripathi8465
@prakhartripathi8465 Жыл бұрын
Ambedkar said - "I want to free India from all kind of ism and allow free flow of all ideas". This jitni abaadi, utna haaq is an absurd demand. It would be better if we pursue universal education, heathcare and good infrastructure rather than create permanent social barriers.
@ExploringAngel
@ExploringAngel Жыл бұрын
And end up like Lebanon or Palastine.
@karankapoor2701
@karankapoor2701 Жыл бұрын
Wonder what changed in a country that was called Paris if the middle east .....must be something to do with change of demographics
@ChandranPrema123
@ChandranPrema123 Жыл бұрын
Yes Palestinian Immigrants took over in 3 decades
@anujkhare1234
@anujkhare1234 Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened is a lesson in itself for all. This is exactly why Shekhar skirted the issue saying that is a different story. Read between the lines.
@sanjaychauhan1116
@sanjaychauhan1116 Жыл бұрын
Thats why i will prefer chinas 🇨🇳one party system bcz them they dont have to play divide and rule game and focus on development. Regarding freedom of speech and expression, vo to aaj bhi utni nahi hai . I want BJP to take over India 🇮🇳 and implement one party system else Congress and other leftist party will destroy india and they will make islamic india
@k-map224
@k-map224 Жыл бұрын
Even our pappu Rahul Gandhi wants to implement the similar Lebanon system in India of demographics. He said jitni abaadi utni haq or more the population more development for that particular community. Such is the IQ of this specimen who will lead our country to chaos if ever implemented just for political power.
@satishchandraGK
@satishchandraGK Жыл бұрын
Lebanon started becoming a basket case once Christians became minority! Now it's failed state!
@AnemoiaGuy
@AnemoiaGuy Жыл бұрын
Already we have a lebanon type government All higher government posts are reserved only for brahmins 😂
@k-map224
@k-map224 Жыл бұрын
@@AnemoiaGuy What is your proof to back up your statement. Is it just some random assumption or your inherent bias towards Brahmins that makes you think so because in reality it's not true.
@repanh1979
@repanh1979 Жыл бұрын
​@bookreview1109 r u ignorant no one can stop u if u r competent 😢it is a excuse statement from an incompetent person
@akshayde
@akshayde Жыл бұрын
​@@repanh1979lol. Bhaiya caste discrimination toh hota hi nahi hai tumhari duniya mein.
@sb9060
@sb9060 Жыл бұрын
Pre 1977 Iran was a fascinating country... Pre 1980 Afghanistan was a fascinating country... Pre Islamic Persia was a fascinating country... Pre Islamic Egypt was a fascinating country.... Turkey is most underdeveloped country of Europe and Malaysia is way inferior to Singapore...
@0900370pian
@0900370pian Жыл бұрын
India is way inferior and underdeveloped than China.
@ashleynakamura9540
@ashleynakamura9540 Жыл бұрын
India is way inferior to China, what is your point?
@hamzahussain7598
@hamzahussain7598 Жыл бұрын
And India has lower per capita gdp than all of them, your data is either irrelevant or massively opinionated.
@sb9060
@sb9060 Жыл бұрын
@@hamzahussain7598 And India is the fastest growing major economy in the world which doesn't depend upon below earth oil without human resource... India, due to it's geo-historical reality, should only be compared with Pakistan.... And you know the pathetic reality of Pakistan due to the same religious saga ...
@ChainSawMann3d
@ChainSawMann3d Жыл бұрын
@@hamzahussain7598 U KNOW THAT CHINA HAVE LOWER PER CAPITA THAN US , because of population about 1.5 billion and increasing though they have more money than us around 33trillion usd . dude its population , if u r indian please go out of india go to egypt
@libshastra
@libshastra Жыл бұрын
Lebanon (and our own Partition - Jinnah argued for the same) is a good example of why Congress party's Jitna Haq Utna Abadi is a terrible, treasonous and poisonous idea. Proportionality derived from confessionalism is a disaster, you will never get the right person with the right skill set and experience to the do the job. If you want social justice, you need to remove barriers, not add new ones. You need to grow the economy, increase opportunities, increase the amount of choices a person has access to pursue opportunities.
@siddave549
@siddave549 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. It is a poisonous idea.
@boilendimngel8181
@boilendimngel8181 Жыл бұрын
As if hindutva is not dangerous...it is much more dangerous.
@rajatranjith8694
@rajatranjith8694 Жыл бұрын
@@boilendimngel8181 Still better than Islamism. Nobody seems to say that before pointing out hindutva.
@siddave549
@siddave549 Жыл бұрын
@@boilendimngel8181 yes hindutva executes gays and they take away women’s rights. They are trying to take over the world and convert everyone to Hinduism. Yeah thanks! Hindutva does not hold a candle in front of Islam!
@nobody4u77
@nobody4u77 Жыл бұрын
@@boilendimngel8181 it is less dangerous than caste , language, North vs South, etc Divisive politics, hindutva brought in huge development and political stability. The war cry against hindutva is the tears of casteist elites who have lost their family fiefdoms, corruption money Nd now cannot see india developing.
@rexplorer.official
@rexplorer.official Жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you Mr. Gupta for explaining geopolitics in a way I can better understand. Love from the US. 🇺🇸🤝🇮🇳
@boomerang0101
@boomerang0101 Жыл бұрын
Hatt bay
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 Жыл бұрын
Jay Maharashtra bhau 🎉
@zk658
@zk658 Жыл бұрын
Shows how much ignorant you are.
@Bhuyan_G
@Bhuyan_G Жыл бұрын
​@@boomerang0101😂😂 Akal ghutnon mein rakh diye?
@aemssw2387
@aemssw2387 Жыл бұрын
Lebanon was peaceful until Muslim became majority
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 Жыл бұрын
Democracy & Political Islam cannot go together !! It is necessary to keep state Separate from Religion & whosoever leader is elected should respect everyone's Religion & should not discriminate on basis of Religion keep his own religious belief personal to himself !!
@SR-mv2mf
@SR-mv2mf Жыл бұрын
Political Islam is more dangerous than Chinese CCP. Atleast CCP uses science islam will be stuck in 7th century
@RaspberryPiKNSITbatch
@RaspberryPiKNSITbatch Жыл бұрын
Same with any other religion.
@mg.f.9023
@mg.f.9023 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@pradipray1251
@pradipray1251 Жыл бұрын
There is no difference like islam and political islam. Islam aka koran is ahate speech against all other faiths.
@dnadsh2311
@dnadsh2311 Жыл бұрын
They want it to go together
@hi4743
@hi4743 Жыл бұрын
When peaceful religion is in majority, they always mix religion and politics. There are 50+ such countries. They officially call it the Peaceful Republic of ABC. Lebanon is not unique. Peaceful want Secularism only as long as it is in minority.
@keshavkhanna6028
@keshavkhanna6028 Жыл бұрын
My grandparents came from lahore and they suffered for some time after partition. But today my father believes that a partion was a much better solution than otherwise.
@Prat2023
@Prat2023 Жыл бұрын
I am sure he would also agree that the partition was incomplete as Muslims that voted for Pakistan never left India.
@filmy2666
@filmy2666 Жыл бұрын
​@@Prat2023soon thy will make new pak
@onestar627
@onestar627 Жыл бұрын
​@@filmy2666they will leave india
@craumm
@craumm Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this episode 🙏🏻 Lebanon is a perfect example of why Too Much Reservation and Jitni Aabadi Utna Haqq can destroy nations. Nevertheless INC has done more Divide and Rule than even the British did in India and definitely more than BJP. BJP only does based on religion. INC does it on religion, caste, regional divide and elitism.
@tvpuram
@tvpuram Жыл бұрын
how shameless you are, mr. bhakth. your god modi will publicly say that Muslims can be identified by their dress. He shamelessly chant jay sree ram and har har maha dev. Nothing wrong in chanting those things but not as PM of India.
@boilendimngel8181
@boilendimngel8181 Жыл бұрын
Tell modi to stop his obc politics...i still remember insulting narendra modi is an insult to all the obc.
@stalinsampras
@stalinsampras Жыл бұрын
bruh what about the divide and rule by brahmanism ideology, the creation of whole groups as untouchables is pretty divisive, not allowing around 25% of the population inside temples is very non divide and rule right, and not marrying out side of ones own caste is definitely not divide and rule but rather unite and rule policy right? And most importantly not allowing certain population to accuqire education and thus inturn prevent power going into their hands is definitely not meant to divide and rule
@Nikhil-qi2vp
@Nikhil-qi2vp Жыл бұрын
​@@tvpuramIf owasi can say Allah Allah, so what is wrong with Modi saying Jai Shri Ram... Owasi is also a MP.. You people should have gone to Pakistan if you had problem with Hindu..
@paulhall1612
@paulhall1612 Жыл бұрын
Modi/BJP has raped countless Muslim women
@rajeshshetty5532
@rajeshshetty5532 Жыл бұрын
Unable to comprehend every country where Muslim population has become biggest religious majority have gone to ruins. Probably exception is Bangladesh, but then almost 20% of Bangladeshi population has moved to India thereby creating artificial control on population. If there were to be the illegal bangladeshi back in thier country, we would know the real situation
@37sairam
@37sairam Жыл бұрын
Let the world wake up to this hard reality
@pointtobenotedyespointtobe2762
@pointtobenotedyespointtobe2762 Жыл бұрын
​@@37sairamandha bhakts are barking here
@sachinmoghe9162
@sachinmoghe9162 Жыл бұрын
Excellent & timely episode. This confessional type of governance was implemented in 1943 but it could not survive for even 25 years because of the civil war which began in 1975. Your analysis and particularly your comments about applicability of this sort of arrangement in India is 100% accurate. Apart from the article which you have recommended & attached, "From Beirut to Jerusalem" Is an excellent book for anyone wanting to know more about Lebanon. Nationalism certainly runs deeper among us indians thats why despite multiple languages, religions, castes, huge size, centuries of colonial India has not only survived but progressed as a nation. Great episode 👏👏👏
@lovekanaujia345
@lovekanaujia345 Жыл бұрын
No caste has ever been threat to nationalism. Only religion particularly Islam is threat to Indian nationalism which already divided the country in 1947. Don't hide behind jargon, call spade a spade.
@minalruhela
@minalruhela Жыл бұрын
Is this book by Friedman?
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sachin, for the book recommendation. I'm also glad to know you enjoyed this episode. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
@sachinmoghe9162
@sachinmoghe9162 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrintIndia Thanks Shekhar Sir for writing to me. I regularly watch videos posted by you and your team. Your prompt and in-depth coverage of almost every national and international issue/event is truly fantastic. Best wishes to you and everyone at "The Print". Thanks once again for your message..🙏
@Kudupa
@Kudupa Жыл бұрын
Jist of this story is, population is Destiny. Paris of the east was reduced to a infighting mess. All due to one great & peaceful religion.
@saiappaji1043
@saiappaji1043 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Shekar Ji for this episode to educate about Lebanon. I do hope that people in India will rise above the caste wars that Nitish Kumar and Congress are unleashing on the Indian masses.
@sdesigan85
@sdesigan85 Жыл бұрын
ful sapot to hindu nashnul modiji
@c.i.a.932
@c.i.a.932 Жыл бұрын
People like you hurt our country
@adwaitsharma6915
@adwaitsharma6915 Жыл бұрын
Where were you when modi was perpetuating relegious division? The indian political ethics has been altered forever thanks to your blind devotion for the ruling dispensation, what you reap, is what you sow.
@krisgopi_8
@krisgopi_8 Жыл бұрын
Modi After becoming pm should have modified himself and not indulgence into religion matters n differences in his speeches post 2016 onwards in functions n elections rallies. After all he is prime minister of india
@ravishankarperumula518
@ravishankarperumula518 Жыл бұрын
I respect your work sir , but there is need to exapnading internal democracy within the political system to avoid sectarianism, why only fraction of caste people controlling political and judicial control , In Telangana BC share of population is 56% but seats in assembly 24/119 which is meagre 20% SC/ST s are becoming MLAs because of reservation but they have to bark like street dogs as per higher instructions, They don’t have any actual powers in the party(ALL parties), Why govts offering schemes on the basis of castes, In these times how many people are doing only caste based professions, Eg.If dominant caste hegemony on other castes is the mandate then majoritywill fight for their share of power, whats wrong in that “Jithni Jiski Aabadi Uthna Uskaa Hakk’
@mayanksingh0044
@mayanksingh0044 Жыл бұрын
Many experts argued to remove this reservation System for betterment of Lebanon but once given to people it is impossible to take it back from them, hence only option it left is to keep digging as Lebanon did, a self perpetuating vicious cycle and race to bottom
@sanjaychauhan1116
@sanjaychauhan1116 Жыл бұрын
Thats why i will prefer chinas 🇨🇳one party system bcz them they dont have to play divide and rule game and focus on development. Regarding freedom of speech and expression, vo to aaj bhi utni nahi hai . I want BJP to take over India 🇮🇳 and implement one party system else Congress and other leftist party will destroy india and they will make islamic india
@Skyboy564
@Skyboy564 Жыл бұрын
Another less known fact: Lebanon has a glorious 5000 year old civilizational history and was held up as a beacon of liberalism as they kept making concessions to their so called minorities. It has now devolved from one of the richest countries in the world to one of the poorest. Many lessons for India there.
@ramsharma4702
@ramsharma4702 Жыл бұрын
Lebanon was once like Las Vegas ! A wealthy 50-50 divided between Muslims and Christians . Everything worked well till Palestinians forced out after a war with Israel entered Lebanon and as it always is with Islamists , everything went to hell . Majority Christmas from here are now in US .
@therahulrs
@therahulrs Жыл бұрын
This is jitni abadi utna haqq for anyone watching.... it ends in tears and people leaving the country
@skaran00
@skaran00 Жыл бұрын
Sir yours & the print's commitment to speak what is right against popular opinions is something we don't find anymore in the country. People blindly choose side according to their ideological inclination without looking at the bigger picture.
@mg.f.9023
@mg.f.9023 Жыл бұрын
" Mixing religion and politics is like mixing ice-cream and manure. It doesn't do much to the manure but it sure does ruin the ice-cream." - Anon
@PanakaluPoonakam
@PanakaluPoonakam Жыл бұрын
If the color of religion is green its okay to mix it with religion though. Color manure goes well with it.
@krisgopi_8
@krisgopi_8 Жыл бұрын
Whatever be the argument but mixing religions into politics is most cruel thing happened not only in India but also in most parts of the world
@sanjaychauhan1116
@sanjaychauhan1116 Жыл бұрын
Thats why i will prefer chinas 🇨🇳one party system bcz them they dont have to play divide and rule game and focus on development. Regarding freedom of speech and expression, vo to aaj bhi utni nahi hai . I want BJP to take over India 🇮🇳 and implement one party system else Congress and other leftist party will destroy india and they will make islamic india
@mg.f.9023
@mg.f.9023 Жыл бұрын
@@sanjaychauhan1116 Sanskari BJP MP Brij Bhushan will be minister of women development..
@nobody4u77
@nobody4u77 Жыл бұрын
@@mg.f.9023 sanskari priyank kharge ji will be the head of ministry of anti hindu and conversions .
@sanjaysaksena619
@sanjaysaksena619 Жыл бұрын
The problem is not proportional share in the power structure, the problem is democracy in deeply divided societies of the Thitd World. The truth is democracy evolved in small European nations with negligible diversity till the end of the Second World War. In third world conditions of deep fault lines, democracy gives rise to civil war ( Ceylon) dismemberment (Pakistan) perpetual ferment ( Nepal ) authoritarianism ( East Bengal) and violence and general lowering of standards to accommodate competing interests ( India) .
@samyvik2888
@samyvik2888 Жыл бұрын
3 things we learnt 1. Everything in Lebanon has deteriorated since 1950 EXCEPT the population of muslims 2. Lebanon changed from a thriving nation to a rogue nation, failed state - correlation? rise of Islamic population 3. it debunks the theory that caste doesnt exist in christianity - there are so many sects, practices in christianity also and one doesnt mingle with the other. Same with muslims - they have various tribes in addition to faiths like sunni, shias, deobandis, ahemadia etc who kill each other, nations are at wars based on intra muslim faiths
@MARKCRASTO
@MARKCRASTO Жыл бұрын
There is a difference between caste and denominations. Educate yourself.
@samyvik2888
@samyvik2888 Жыл бұрын
@@MARKCRASTO you can call it 'denomination' or 'yourshit' for all anyone cares - bottomline is that serious differences exist within the Abrahamic faiths and more wars have been fought between two muslim nations and between christian faiths in recent centuries - thats the point you need to understand. Yes, you can get fancy with the terminologies but you are missing the root of it.
@harshithgowda202
@harshithgowda202 Жыл бұрын
@@samyvik2888 I too taught the same that theres no sect in Christianity but there's Secterian Divide between them also but an Important Example of Christianity is the European Union after the Destruction of 2nd world war all the christian countries came together for economic development and prosperity backed by Marshall plan of US the Divide in Islam is so deep that they wont come together although having oil resources, although having resources many states are rogue or failed like LEBANON, and the Tech Disruption which is taking place in the World makes Major Economies like CHINA,US,INDIA to not be dependent on oil and move to EV's with clean source of Energy once the Energy Bills are reduced i dont know where these Gulf Countries will go its high time for the ISLAMIC world to come together for PEACE and PROSPERITY but not for SHITTY SECTERIAN divide and Wars.
@sharathbbengaluru1145
@sharathbbengaluru1145 Жыл бұрын
meritocracy should prevail.
@Smiling-Monk
@Smiling-Monk Жыл бұрын
With RESERVATION Lebenon is the Future of INDIA 🇮🇳😒😒😒😒
@swagata1234
@swagata1234 Жыл бұрын
I read, when bengal was partitioned, there was a proposal floated by Surawardy, backed by Sarat Bose for a United sovereign bengal as a seperate country. They proposed this lebanese style power sharing between hindus and Muslims. Surawardy had an affinity towards lebanon. Probably he died in beirut. But the plan did not materialize, mainly because congress top brass like Nehru, patel and majority of bengali congrese (dominated by caste hindus) and hindu mahasabha (led by SP mukherjee) opposed it.
@lovekanaujia345
@lovekanaujia345 Жыл бұрын
What we got in return? A "secular" country with veto to Muslims which allowed Muslims to breed to again swell their numbers to further create chaos.
@prasitchowdhury3896
@prasitchowdhury3896 Жыл бұрын
And this foresightedness is the reason why we bengali Hindus are safe and have our own land and culture in our state West Bengal under the umbrella of our country, India
@khushboobharadwaj7877
@khushboobharadwaj7877 Жыл бұрын
Dear sir , You did not talk about why the Christians fled. Why the demography changed . Ofcourse Muslims have more babies but it's also true that once their population is in majority, nobody matters . It can be a separate episode as to why such a beautiful country ,once called the Paris of East in 70s was brought to such deplorable condition. You need to say some hard facts And that you won't do because you need to diplomatic Good episode though But I don't think indian politicians are going to learn anything from it
@vivekanandholla6730
@vivekanandholla6730 Жыл бұрын
It is an interesting over view on what people espouse in India for caste based reservations. I have always been against reservations based on caste population. If reservations have to happen, make it happen based on economic wellbeing of the society irrespective of caste or religion. This will "hopefully" slowly allow reservations to be completely be removed. Thank you for the video.
@minalruhela
@minalruhela Жыл бұрын
This is already happening - above poverty line OBCs are not suppose to use their reservation caste certificate anymore.
@manjariakhoury8332
@manjariakhoury8332 Жыл бұрын
For a change Gupta gave an honest analysis of situation in Lebanon in context of Caste survey in India and its pitfalls if implemented on the basis of ,’ jiski aabaadi uska utna huq’.
@shashank__singh
@shashank__singh Жыл бұрын
Every evening I'm curious about what will be the topic of CTC & when Shekhar Gupta will upload. Nowadays its getting too late.
@pranjalsoni1743
@pranjalsoni1743 Жыл бұрын
Rahul wants to replicate Labnon through "Jitni Abadi utna Haq"
@Avocabobo
@Avocabobo Жыл бұрын
Lesson for India is that during partition 100% population exchange should have been mandatory ❗️❗️❗️
@Bhuyan_G
@Bhuyan_G Жыл бұрын
Sekhar Gupta Drawing parallels between Labanese Constitutional structure and the recent calls by the INDIA bloc, originated by late Kanshi Ram : 'Jitni Abadi, Utna Haq' , multiple times in the CTC is hilarious. It looks almost intentional to some extent.
@sujithkumar2041
@sujithkumar2041 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. How he use a scenario of a country of size of Arunachal to gas light empowerment of oppressed lower caste for centuries. That too even before taking a census. That’s the reason the north is still a asylum of cast oppression
@abhi.c137
@abhi.c137 Жыл бұрын
Great episode, thanks Shekhar!
@paragkale1159
@paragkale1159 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. Be sure to send it to Rahul and his supporters. There is or was another country where the presidency was reserved for an Orthodox Christian, prime minister ship for Sunni Muslim and speaker of the Parliament for Shia Muslim. I am referring to Cyprus, which was plagued by civil war and then invasion by Turkey which has resulted into de facto partition of the small island into a Greek Cypriot speaking larger portion and tinier Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.-recognised only by Turkey. Another not so funny fact. During the Mandal case hearing, advocates appearing for pro-reservation parties had cited Cyprus as an example to follow. But the judges of the Supreme Court observed that Cyprus had also faced a civil war and division. These were oral observations and are are not part of the judgment but the interchange between lawyers and the judges was reported by the press.
@iArpanMishra
@iArpanMishra Жыл бұрын
One of the best CTCs ever!
@jaideepsingh2405
@jaideepsingh2405 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Gupta, I believe the modern English thesaurus has a word that quite succinctly yet accurate defines Lebanon’s situation. It is, quite simply, a clusterf*ck. 6:58
@SudharshunRavichander
@SudharshunRavichander Жыл бұрын
This is the one reason why partition was only way out. Only nonpracticing abrahamic faith adherents, or dharmic eastern civilization adherents can be secular or democratic. We this throughout the world, or ethnically homogenous. We see this even within our northeast in nagaland, people often underplay the impact of religion in destabilizing the state. Had we offered Jinnah the prime ministership, we e would have Lebanon 20x , fractured forever poor and having clamorous call for sharia to be implemented . So contrary to populist versions of Shashi tarroor asking for reparations, the British did a favor by partitioning India and in a way amputating gangrenous arm and saving civilization body.
@Jeff_in_96
@Jeff_in_96 Жыл бұрын
The downfall of Lebanon being liberal to the peaceful community has caused its demise, will other countries ever learn
@lakshitsareen
@lakshitsareen Жыл бұрын
All this information is in the NCERT Civics book of the 10th class. Chapter Name is Power Sharing.
@yashagarwal1032
@yashagarwal1032 Жыл бұрын
GUPTAJI INDIRECTLY CRITICISES CASTE CENSUS, AMBETKARITES, MANDALITES WILL SAY CASTE HIERARCHY IN PRACTISE
@nobody4u77
@nobody4u77 Жыл бұрын
If caste hierarchy were in practice then modi could never become pm . It is the mixture of general, obcs , ST Nd very less SC voteshare that modi got majority twice . The ambedkarites Nd mandalites have achieved their objectives of giving power to backwards and Harijans (dalits) which has led to collapse of these parties and a huge chunk of mandalites , ambedkarites are amalgamated into hindu identity which is why the political parties are desperate to divide hindus to play identity politics once again.
@ChandranPrema123
@ChandranPrema123 Жыл бұрын
​@@nobody4u77exactly like the entire gandhi family was Brahmins lmao
@yashagarwal1032
@yashagarwal1032 Жыл бұрын
@@nobody4u77 IT IS THE LARGE SCALE PROPAGANDA IN ACTION WHICH HAS LED TO NON DOMINANT OBC TO COME WITHIN HINDUTVA FOLD. MR MODI ALSO PLAYS IDENTITY POLITICS. HE HAS ALSO BROUGHT NOTHING GOOD TO ECONOMY. THUS THESE REGIONAL FORCES ARE NOT TO BE SINGELY BLAMED. NATION WANTS A NEW IDEOLOGICAL FORCE AGAINST HINDUTVA
@sahilbharti7047
@sahilbharti7047 Жыл бұрын
​@@yashagarwal1032 Baniya of Bihar are OBC.
@PanakaluPoonakam
@PanakaluPoonakam Жыл бұрын
@@yashagarwal1032 Using all CAPS is considered equivalent to shouting , being rude, immature and lacking in etiquette. And Hindutva for win. jo ukhad sakta hai ukhad lo
@vinnychauhan9871
@vinnychauhan9871 Жыл бұрын
Lebanon was a great country when it was Christian majority until Palestinian peacefuls became majority and is now a basket case.
@maksrms
@maksrms Жыл бұрын
I have known talented Lebaneese and they are actually best educated in GCC. Unfortunately Beruit economy and law and order detoriated in last 7-8 years. A mixed society , similar to earstwhile Turkey would have been ideal, but religion is culprit here again.
@badaburner
@badaburner Жыл бұрын
Gupta ji has successfully skirted around the fundamental problem. He has presented the data but again shyed from mentioning the root issue. Let's see if people can pinpoint the root cause.... Hint its the same problem as the rest of the world
@PanakaluPoonakam
@PanakaluPoonakam Жыл бұрын
Shhhh ... we can't talk about it.
@viswanathrolla5320
@viswanathrolla5320 Жыл бұрын
hahaha you expect the great liberal Sekhar to talk about this
@anonymous_4276
@anonymous_4276 Жыл бұрын
Root problem is overdose on gaumutra. Brain-dead fanatics talking about "root-cause".
@anshuraj4277
@anshuraj4277 Жыл бұрын
Root cause is system
@PanakaluPoonakam
@PanakaluPoonakam Жыл бұрын
@@anshuraj4277 hukumat tumhari magar system hamari
@venkataperumalrangaswamy8227
@venkataperumalrangaswamy8227 Жыл бұрын
Ok. Nice. Having said this, whether DMK mixes religion ( atheism ) with the politics or not? If the DMK is not mixing, why the State Government occupies Hindu Temples?
@VijeDerm
@VijeDerm Жыл бұрын
Sg,fantastic discourse. Ours is a strong constitution. Raga has a similar medieval mindset of jitna abadi sada haq
@ganapathibhat4413
@ganapathibhat4413 Жыл бұрын
The RSS had quoted the example of Lebanon long ago .
@sbhati513
@sbhati513 Жыл бұрын
This should have been a "national interest" rather than CTC, because a lot of it seems to be just opinion. No evidence was mentioned, no references or citations given to show that the Lebanon is struggling as a nation pre-dominantly because of identity-based power sharing or that the situation in Lebanon is comparable to India's situation.
@vidyadharkhare6265
@vidyadharkhare6265 Жыл бұрын
A good beginning by you SG some fresh air in the thought process. Show perseverance. You are slowly graduating from third party obsevations to concerned suggestions.
@dev.0122
@dev.0122 Жыл бұрын
Another awesomeeee video, I have watched over 1000 episodes of CTC and the knowledge I have gained is immense. Thank you Print
@akshetmohanka345
@akshetmohanka345 Жыл бұрын
Terrific case study. You can do a similar case study for Nigeria.
@patmclaughlin107
@patmclaughlin107 Жыл бұрын
Nigeria is another disaster waiting to happen because of the changing demographics.
@lovekanaujia345
@lovekanaujia345 Жыл бұрын
Wherever I$lam has become majority by exponential & targeted breeding, the country became s$hit-hole.
@blackjacka5350
@blackjacka5350 Жыл бұрын
Where ever these peacefuls are in abundance there will be Chaos… unless you call it it won’t be stoped…. In India we lost our land before and we still continue to do the same mistake…. Now it is inevitable someday when they have even 30% of population, more chaos will be there… they will expand….
@trichynandha6570
@trichynandha6570 Жыл бұрын
Very appropriate to have picked up this topic for this talk. The issues of human identity and there on tribe identity and there on caste (in India / creed elsewhere) identity has always been a sour point of co-existence. A modern sophisticated society has to understand this and be able to exist above this idea. Thank you for the talk.
@plungeintotheabyss
@plungeintotheabyss Жыл бұрын
Thanks SG for this episode.
@striker13390
@striker13390 Жыл бұрын
What a stupid governance system. Except for their cuisine nothing is good.
@santomenon3689
@santomenon3689 Жыл бұрын
Fabulouse Gupta'ji. This is worth a content.
@t5ruxlee210
@t5ruxlee210 Жыл бұрын
In happier times, Beirut was "the Paris of the Middle East", both as a financial centre and as a tourist destination. The growing/ exporting of illegal recreational drugs and the mass importing of used Mercedes sedans were just modern outgrowths of the ancient expertise in foreign trading that had lasted for thousands of years.
@schmetterling4477
@schmetterling4477 Жыл бұрын
That title was given to any number of cities... and it's just romanticizing bullshit. Neither are drugs the problem. The problem was always religious sectarianism which was used by external powers that were fighting proxy wars in countries like Lebanon. The only rational response of a citizen of such a country is to leave and to apply for political asylum in a rationally governed country... which the intelligent people did, of course. The resulting brain drain eventually finishes these countries off completely, economically, culturally and politically. The success of a society is determined by its top 1%, whether we like this or not. Societies that lose that resource are doomed. They descend into cycles of needless violence... like Lebanon and Palestine.
@pichumanisankar2617
@pichumanisankar2617 Жыл бұрын
I wonder whether our netas, particularly RAGA, would ever read this episode and ponder over it.
@krisgopi_8
@krisgopi_8 Жыл бұрын
Modi retiring at 74 n going back to his home town Raga taking vrs from his mom n kharge and heading back to Brazil to be with his first love ,marry n settle. Wishing both of them 👍 End of headaches to India
@punnavanamsubbiah7434
@punnavanamsubbiah7434 Жыл бұрын
SG sir why go to Lebonan to learn about failure or death of political confessionalism.. Make your legal reporters read about the case in Madras High court between a Hindu activists vs government of TN on the speech by Minister Udayanithi Stalin on eradication of Sanathanam. The submission made by lawyer/MP Wilson 20 pages with 40 points clears when Sanathana could not win votes comes to courts. It is fascinating and thought provoking.
@optimusprime3389
@optimusprime3389 Жыл бұрын
If you want to know what happened with Lebanon just listen to videos of Brigitte Gabriel she has talked comprehensively about downfall of that country
@avinashasitis
@avinashasitis Жыл бұрын
Lebanon is a lesson for those who don't want to accept the fact that demography change can wreck a country. We all have seen the Brigitte Gabriel video on KZbin.
@pravinmeher2036
@pravinmeher2036 Жыл бұрын
SG, quran says stay low until you become the majority. My Malaysian colleague tell how non Muslims are treated. Muslims get tax cut. Anybody marrying non Muslim doesn't convert his spouse he-she has to give up citizenship. You wouldn't talk about it
@alchemist.3
@alchemist.3 Жыл бұрын
Woww... simply woww. Very very good content and articulated brilliantly. Jiski jitni aabadi utne unki hissedaari. This video should also be watched from the Lok Sabha delimitation point of view as well. If the South states feel victimized, nothing stops them to roll up their sleeves and get down to "business". They will definitely incentivise population growth and prepare for the next delimitation possible another 20-25 yrs time. Viola... we need a new Parliament building then. Jokes aside... this video should be watched and pondered upon by the law makers.
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and writing in, my friend. I'm glad you liked this episode...best wishes, Shekhar
@2010anilshukla
@2010anilshukla Жыл бұрын
Share this episode with your favourite Rahul Gandhi - the saviour in waiting….
@ajaytjosephyourmentor8773
@ajaytjosephyourmentor8773 Жыл бұрын
Druze can be considered as the precursor of sufis. Excellent session
@helencarvalho4999
@helencarvalho4999 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating history of lebanon
@punitmodhgil624
@punitmodhgil624 Жыл бұрын
Lots to learn for Bharat from Lebanon example.
@kallachi729
@kallachi729 Жыл бұрын
With malice to none. It would seem from various media reports (including The Print) that India has a lesson to learn from whatever is happening in the world whenever with whoever and the media and experts will teach her. Tailpiece: A bit intriguing and bordering on preposterous.
@lastleaf5282
@lastleaf5282 Жыл бұрын
Indian media needs reason to target BJP .. however it is all welcome
@satishchandraGK
@satishchandraGK Жыл бұрын
Correct. Only lesson India has to learn is remain Hindu majority for every citizen to live peacefully as an equal
@thiru_asc1
@thiru_asc1 Жыл бұрын
Typical of Shekar Gupta to give a biased history,Shame on Shekar ,why not One word how a Christian Majority Lebanon become a Muslim Majority country ,how Christians were driven out from Lebanon...are a worthy of Journalism which you are ,It is utter Shame ...
@pichumanisankar2617
@pichumanisankar2617 Жыл бұрын
This CTC is an indirect call to end reservation of all types.
@vivekpai3987
@vivekpai3987 Жыл бұрын
Jitni abadi utna haq makes you a Lebanon
@kolakrishna4604
@kolakrishna4604 Жыл бұрын
This guy seriously has some problem with rising Hindu identity and BJP...Always tries to teach some lessons from other country issues...anyways what I understand with this episode (Lebanon) not to encourage all religions.. I think bjp is doing right...😂
@harisundar8698
@harisundar8698 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting political history of lebanon..
@aemssw2387
@aemssw2387 Жыл бұрын
Lebanon was peaceful, until Muslim became Majority
@shyamnair5196
@shyamnair5196 Жыл бұрын
Lebanon used to be a Christian country. Now....with change in demography....it's a Muslim majority country. He didn't say that.....he said "a broken country". Clearly.... everyone has their biases. There is no good journalism and bad journalism.
@ebony1404
@ebony1404 Жыл бұрын
Excellent research for political science and PhD thesis
@macharun123
@macharun123 Жыл бұрын
Excellent sir, fantastic analysis
@bhaskardatta2001
@bhaskardatta2001 Жыл бұрын
You draw the wrong lessons from Lebanon. The only lesson to be drawn is by NRC and population control bill are required. Else,if a particular religion becomes a majority,this is what happens
@karamsings
@karamsings Жыл бұрын
Hi Shekhar. NICE NARRATIVE . One on how Lebanon was affected by influx of people from neighbouring Isreal will be interesting
@chandramoulikanavi3363
@chandramoulikanavi3363 Жыл бұрын
Guptaji thanks, learnt a lot about Lebanon
@Uneducatedopinion57
@Uneducatedopinion57 Жыл бұрын
Hi SG, I usually love your videos but this seems to be a very superficial understanding of Lebanon. The political situation in Lebanon is not comparable to that of India. Political instability in Lebanon is a mix of sectarian divisions, corruption, economic mismanagement, syrian refugee crisis and most importantly regional interference by Iran, Israel, Saudi, western countries
@lovekanaujia345
@lovekanaujia345 Жыл бұрын
Mulla came to defend the monstrosity of other mullas
@ravindraagate2704
@ravindraagate2704 Жыл бұрын
Lesson from Labanon ,India should abolish cast/ religion based system of giving reservations & subsidees
@prakashraghunathan2685
@prakashraghunathan2685 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou shekar sir for the insight on the geopolitical situation.
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, Prakash. I'm glad you liked this episode. Thank you also for supporting our journalism...best wishes, Shekhar
@tanmayparmar2208
@tanmayparmar2208 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@sauravghosh7064
@sauravghosh7064 Жыл бұрын
Jiski jiski abadi uska uta haq Rahul gandhi wants india to become next lebenon He plays dumb in front of people acting as if bullshit comes out of his mouth randomly ,as he is like innocent who doesn't understand things but in reality he speaks with deep evil mindset and is most crocked politician in india
@luciddoggo5094
@luciddoggo5094 Жыл бұрын
Lebanon was a christian majority country with a large Muslim minority that turned to hell after the Muslims started to outbreed the Christians. Les see how Gupta will try and blame this somehow on hindu nationalism
@nagpatibhat2241
@nagpatibhat2241 Жыл бұрын
The idea of 'jiski jitni abadi uska utna haq' is only with reference to reservation which is capped at 50 percent. Though even this idea for reservation is also flawed, it's certainly not what you seem to suggest.
@AmitKumarAlphaX
@AmitKumarAlphaX Жыл бұрын
SG, YOU NEED TO READ THIS.🙏🙏 👇👇👇👇 AGAIN A VERY UNPOLISHED VIEW POINT OF "JISKI JITNI ABAADI, USKA UTNA HAQ". BECAUSE BY "JISKI JITNI ABAADI USKA UTNA HAQ", WE AREN'T SAYING THAT THE POSITION OF THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR SCs, POSITION OF PM FOR STs & THAT OF THE SPEAKER FOR OBCs. THIS IS ABOUT THE PARTICIPATION OF LOWER CASTES IN THE MACHINERIES OF THE STATE. WE'RE SAYING THAT WHY DO SC-ST-OBCs WITH A 85% POPULATION HAVE ONLY 10% OF GROUP A POSTS, ONLY 20% OF GROUP B POSTS & ONLY 40% OF GROUP C & D POST?? WHY DOES AN AVERAGE GENERAL CATEGORY PERSON HOLD 3 TIMES THE LAND OF AN AVERAGE DALIT?? WHY DO THE 10% GENERAL CATEGORY HAVE CONTROL OVER ALL THE RESOURCES OF THIS COUNTRY??? WHY DO THE 85% SC-ST-OBCs HAVE LESS THAN 5% REPRESENTATION IN THE MEDIA?? WHY DO THE SC-ST-OBCs HAVE MINISCULE PORTION OF PRIVATE SECTOR LEADERSHIP POSITIONS??? SHEKHAR, WE HAVE A HISTORY OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF DISCRIMINATIONS & PRIVILEGES BASED ON CASTE. THAT'S HOW THIS GAP HAS BEEN CREATED BETWEEN SC-ST-OBCs & GENERALs. "JISKI JITNI ABAADI, USKA UTNA HAQ" HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LEBANON. LEBANON DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A CASTE SYSTEM OF HISTORICAL DISCRIMINATIONS. SO, IT'S TIME YOU STOP STRETCHING IT SO FAR. IT'S BECOMING RIDICULOUS. IT'S THE SECOND TIME YOU'VE EQUATED LEBANON'S SYSTEM TO THE DEMANDS OF REPRESENTATION BY SC-ST-OBCs. IT'S KILLING ME TO SEE A JOURNALIST LIKE YOU, WHO I ADMIRE SO DEEPLY, TALK ABOUT THIS IN SUCH AN ABSURD FASHION.💔💔💔💔💔
@madhup100
@madhup100 Жыл бұрын
Need to tell RaGa about the terrible ways of dividing ppl :( Tragic and horrendous conswquences
@ramnathpaip
@ramnathpaip Жыл бұрын
You just have to watch this to understand how dengerous Congress party is for India
@amalkantiray9346
@amalkantiray9346 Жыл бұрын
This man comes off an on, for what! I only see he has improved his English. I prefer to hear him speak hindi. Written text, of course, has an advantage. Anyway, could he explain the transformation of Lebanon conclusively? Why does he have to take up this Lebanon issue? What was the provocation?
@Letmethinkformyself
@Letmethinkformyself Жыл бұрын
Please sir, we will be very grateful if you can research and explain how democracy works in India. We,as Indians don't know about our rights and from what I can gather from the news...our rights getting more and more narrow. Do we even have an Universal right anymore?
@Victor-y9g1w
@Victor-y9g1w Жыл бұрын
@krantiveer5116
@krantiveer5116 Жыл бұрын
Yeah you have the right to go somewhere else.
@anwarsaeed3731
@anwarsaeed3731 Жыл бұрын
Best of the best my brother 💝💝💝💝💝
@adarshwanderer5704
@adarshwanderer5704 Жыл бұрын
It's is not at all jiski jitni abadi uska utna haq. Shekhar ji it looks like you just cluttered it more instead of decluttering it.
@ramadasshanmugam9617
@ramadasshanmugam9617 Жыл бұрын
Sirjee, what does delimitation do if not dividing the number of seats according to strength of populations? Isn't that wrong then?
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