Trailer or Fifth Wheel? WATCH THIS FIRST!!

[@tumbleweed4185]

Your PHD comment was great. I have a friend that runs a business that was started by his father who is now semi-retired. He calls his dad the CIO. He "Comes in Occasionally".

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

#StealingThis

[@tumbleweed4185]

@@JoshtheRVNerd "insert smiley face here". LOL

[@shyguy2481]

Like Dave ramsey says. A PhD in DumB

[@ghostdog662]

I have no intention of buying a trailer or fifth wheel but your content is so honest and well spoken, I will subscribe.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Welcome aboard. Great profile pic btw :)

[@wadfasfsdfdsfsf]

Just bought my first towable this year. I'm Far from Michigan but subscribed for his honesty as well

[@carolinagoldbug983]

I’m an RV hauler. You are spot-on in describing the differences in ‘towability’ between the units (TT vs 5th Wheel). And I’m using a 3500 SRW….and 1-ton pickup or no, I can tell the differences. One thing folks should consider is wind. You get into strong winds (like you are GOING to do in the Western and prairie states…..and Canada)…..the TT wants to sway, and the 5th-Wheel stays MUCH more stable. And yeah….I have a weight-distribution/anti-sway kit for the rear-tow TT. But you hit all the high points, and I hope the novices pay attention to what you just taught. Kudos.

[@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV.]

do u really need a anti sway kit and a leveling kit ?

[@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV.]

@Peter Angles men that buy 2500 or 3500 who do not have any type of hauling or construction job are just Jokers and posers that want a big truck to make up for their inadequacies

[@HalfCrazy520]

@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. -- It depends on how much truck you're using... I tow a 35' travel trailer with a GMC 3500 Denali diesel (SRW) and I just drop it on the ball and go. Tows like a dream... but this is a truck that weighs 8850 lbs as driven and has a (real/actual) payload of 2,750 lbs full of fluids/fuel, everything I always carry, and we are sitting in it. The 10.000 lb trailer squats the truck 2".

[@HalfCrazy520]

@Peter Angles -- A dually is too wide for parking spaces and is a real hardship when not towing. On the road you have maybe 8" outside the truck on each side to remain inside the lines of the travel lanes. There are many of us who choose a SRW 3500 because you're not ALWAYS towing.

[@HalfCrazy520]

@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. -- And men who join the Air Force aren't man enough to be Marines? In my world, the poser truck is a 150/1500 all jacked up with big tires and looking like a monster truck, but it can't tow or haul any real weight. I have a Ram 2500/Cummins and a GMC 3500/Duramax. They both DO WORK more often than not. My daily driver is the GMC and my grandson is driving the Ram. I actually prefer the Ram but I'm not handing over the keys to my Denali to a 19-year-old.

[@NGLCOCONUTS]

I’ve owned two travel trailers and upgraded to a fifth wheel last year. I can give you a laundry list of why one is better than the other. The deciding factor for me was the mistake of asking my wife and kids to come “look” at a fifth wheel with me. I had no other choice after they saw the Eagle 29.5BHOK. So the answer to your question “Which one is better” ? Ask your wife and kids lol

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

*deciding factor for me was the mistake of asking my wife and kids to come “look” at a fifth wheel with me. I had no other choice after they saw the Eagle 29.5BHOK. So the answer to your question “Which one is better” ? Ask your wife and kids lol* is the most honest real-world feedback I think I've ever read lolololol

[@NGLCOCONUTS]

Glad you can appreciate my honesty haha.

[@horaciosalinas8145]

Happen to me when I buy my first Tahoe back in 2010 , I was just going to look and little daughter got in it and said “ Daddy I like it “ and I took it 😔

[@christopherhodson4049]

A 5th Wheel over a Travel Trailer, in short, is the Best for Me. I Don't Travel. I Live in a 5th wheel now, and have Never towed it. I've seen plenty of nice Travel Trailers, but for Me, the 5th Wheel has more room and is Best for Me. BTW Josh, that's is a Great way to approach a sell. Honesty. I almost was a Safety Manager in the Past, so I Respect getting to Know the customers and showing Safety features. Thanks.

[@brianm1916]

Your sales team should have this video setup to play in the lobby as required viewing for new customers. Great info!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I actually have them watch content like this and lead training sessions every monday to help reinforce

[@geoben1810]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Smart. 👌

[@brianw7449]

Thank you for this honest take on RV purchasing! It’s so refreshing to hear the truth rather than the sales pitch. We upgraded from a travel trailer to 5th wheel earlier this year and struggled to find info on my 1/2 tons ability. Despite both dealers saying I’m fine towing a Cougar 29MBS with it, this video helped me understand it was not safe. Upgraded to a 3/4 ton with ample payload and I barely even know the 5th wheel is behind me. 4500 miles this summer and the peace of mind can’t be underestimated. Thanks from Northeastern Ontario. Keep up the great work!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That was a good call. Glad we could assist you!!

[@josealberto890]

Hi Josh! This is my first time listening to you, and watching your video on "trailer or fifth wheel". You are a true professional Josh! Your family must be very proud of the way you represent your family business. "Getting to know you better" applies to everything we do in life. It never turns out good if one is in a hurry (even in marriage or living together) and doesn't thoroughly investigate what they are getting themselves into. In public schools, this philosophy should be taught more, but it isn't. We are in south Florida but would like to buy a trailer or fifth wheel to travel around once in a while. My spouse prefers a fifth wheel (of course) but she is just admiring how beautiful they really are. An ancient philosopher once said, "A good reputation is better than any riches in the world". We sincerely wish you continued success, Josh! Joe & Myrta

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow thank you! Welcome to our channel!!

[@engineeringVirtue]

Been thinking about this for months. I think there are really 4 stages to RV'ing: under 23ft travel trailer for short weekend camping type events. Easy to stow, Easy to tow, Easy to buy and setup. But won't last very long, be upgradeable, or comfortable for longer trips or more than 2 people. A good sweet spot is 30ft Travel Trailers with Expedition or F150. A very good base to work from, let's you go nearly anywhere, relatively easy to get going with...definitely right path for those that just camp a few times a year. Next level up is 32-36FT Travel Trailers or Fifth Wheels. Flexible platform that can support a full time family, but better for those that camp 2-7 days/month. Tow with F350 SRW, short bed with 7.3 gas might work...but big learning curve balancing trailer weight and wdh. Lastly, if you are pretty much thinking if your trailer as your home for 5+yrs and frequent driving...go get that 40ft 5th wheel, but you are going to want f450 dually truck and will need to be careful with narrow lanes on winding mountain roads, finding big campsites, or backing in. On the other hand, you might actually get built in laundry machines and near full size appliances and bathrooms. If I can get through the storage limitations, 35ft travel trailer with long bed f350 srw is my choice. However, the most livable floorplans have limited payload and toyhauler designs get confusing.

[@chrisgrobbelaar4658]

I love the idea of a "Mom and Pop" shop because you guys are more people oriented. Not ram an RV down your throat kind of business. The more I watch your tidbits. The more I'm trusting you and your business. And that is the kind of business ide cross the country for

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

We're not perfect certainly (who is?), but we've earned some pretty respectable ratings over the years.

[@Masterchief68a]

Excellent description of the differences between the 5th wheel and TT! I recommend anyone getting into camping research your channel first!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for that!

[@billiwickey]

Thank you for the honesty, it truly is a rarity. I've had a dealer tell me that the Chevy Colorado that I was driving "could easily tow a 1/2 ton 5th wheel." I literally laughed as I got back in the Colorado and drove away. I've been pulling hay wagons for a few decades so I knew that there was no way that was a good idea. It's scary to think of how many people have listened and followed that kind of advice. I tell everyone thinking about getting a RV to check out Josh the RV Nerd then when they're ready give his team a call. I know it's worked once. 😉

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY! I won't claim to get it all right, but never for a lack of trying!!

[@HRCfan17]

Great video. Wish all RV dealerships were as honest. I started out with a travel trailer. Moved on to a fifth wheel and wouldn’t go back. Fifth wheel tows so much better. It overcomes all the cons in my book.

[@captainskippy6622]

I’ve owned three travel trailers and am in my third 5th wheel. For me, for my age (62) it’s still a 5er for me. We love the luxury, towing stability, and space. However, in the future when I can’t crawl in and out of the truck bed, etc, we’ll probably go to a class C. Great video as always Josh.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Makes sense. TY for sharing :)

[@craigleidigjr4170]

Pickup 4 Dr flat bed no crawling

[@Fuzzy_Noodle]

Very good video. We traveled 2500 miles to Haylett to get our RV. It was so worth it. I knew exactly what I was looking for although they are great and yes you should give them a call if you have questions. I did tons of research before I went and yet they still looked it over to see if it was “safe” to tow. I was within my numbers with margin to spare. I know this comment is getting long now but I do have to say if you are willing to have a 1 ton I couldn’t believe how much better a fifth wheel tows than a bumper pull. Even if I don’t travel that much it is worth it to me to have so much more peace of mind on the road.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY for sharing this :)

[@nickzalan4762]

I remember my uncle had a 5th wheel from the 90s that had a crawlspace style queen bed which he could tow with his half ton, it would be nice to see those mini fifth wheels make a comeback for those folks that want an easier towing rig but don't want to upgrade to a 3/4 or 1 ton truck.

[@chomp54321]

How about the Escape 5.0? With a dry weight of less than 4000 lbs and a GVWR of 5500 lbs, I think it is with reach of a 1/2 ton truck.

[@jeffforbess6802]

Look at horse trailer toy haulers.

[@WallaceDunn]

@@chomp54321 just looked at ordering one. Loaded with all options $50k US AND delivery in December 2022...

[@chomp54321]

@@WallaceDunn That's a long wait.

[@waynesorensen7071]

@@chomp54321 you didnt gulp at the price ????

[@w.j.guidry8459]

If Coldwater wasn't 1000 miles from me I would probably buy my next RV from you! Great videos and information!

[@rickysnyder7603]

Sounds like a road trip drive up and go camping on the way back home

[@littlebitty7633]

Heck, I'm from Alberta Canada and I would think about going to get one from Haylett RV!! Covid aside!

[@billhughes4731]

Great info.

[@AlanMuratet]

I'm in CA and this guy just might get my business

[@paigeslemp4340]

Josh I love your videos and would love to buy from Haylett but my question is how does that work long distance? Meaning if we drive up there and purchase how does warranty work happen? We live in Virginia, a good hump from you. 😆

[@MyLifeThai371]

In my city people used to always have gooseneck trailers to show off their money. This year I have only noticed one fifth wheel around here. Everyone around here, traded in their fifth wheel trailers for brand new bumper pull campers. Most of these bumper pulls have slideouts and start out at $35,000 in our area brand new.

[@philip2774]

Not really a flex..

[@Lavendaraw]

We purchased our camper from Haylett- we were steered away from a wider camper due to our tow vehicle at that time. After a year of towing, we sure were glad! In hindsight, our only regret 3 years later is not upgrading our truck and getting what would be our forever camper at the get go. HOWEVER, we have zero regrets about getting out there and starting! If we had not, we wouldn’t realize how much a quality camper enhanced our camping experience and that we just want to do it MORE now. ❤

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for sharing! Thanks for hanging around the channel!!

[@trumpwon8231]

Everything you’re say is right and correct. The issue is when a customer comes to a lot and wants to be asked all these fit mint questions. Thank makes the purchase and later finds out 90% of all dealership folks do not Rv themselves. The fitment just becomes a sale and not a relationship. 90% of us buyers will ever get to talk to you or the likes of you….. You always rock my Brother.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I try Ty

[@robertgilliam7668]

I know what my truck will handle safely, and it is not a much as I thought it was when you go through mountain passes. Good video, and I appreciate a dealer that makes safety the main consideration.

[@littlegoobie]

I've seen people in trouble going through mountain passes. loooooong steep climbs and they'll pull over and start draining water and unloading stuff on the side of the road to get the weight down

[@robertgilliam7668]

@@littlegoobie I didn't have to reduce the weight, I just had to pull off and let the transmission cool down. My truck didn't come with a transmission cooler.

[@nans969]

I'm not in the market for a 5th wheel or a huge trailer. I just watched to know the difference. We are kinda new. Got a 19ft wolf pup in 2019. Only got to take 3 trips before covid. Now, everything is booked or prices went up more than a hotel room. I discovered your channel by chance. I've learned a lot from watching you. I'm in Virginia. If I lived near you I would consider checking out your campers when we go to upgrade.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thx for joining us regardless :)

[@ChadWinters]

As a doctor, I had an elderly couple give me a reason I hadn’t thought of before. They traded their 5th wheel in for a travel trailer so they didn’t have to struggle with the stairs inside the camper. Travel trailer is like the ranch house

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Oh absolutely. It’s a common thing as folks age a bit. My grandparents had a small camper. Then a big trailer. Then a fifth wheel. Then a BIG fifth wheel Then she got her first knee replacement Stepped back to a smaller FW THEN knee replacement #2 Back to a big trailer Another knee replacement Back to small trailer Then they were done She just had her 5th knee replacement btw.. crazy what medicine can do

[@nursenasdaq]

@@JoshtheRVNerd guess they were pretty lucky to have family in the business lol

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@nursenasdaq It was kinda sad... I was the guy that had to take pictures/video of their camper when we sold it for them. It was like cleaning out your attic and throwing away your memories. But it was the right time for them

[@davealessandria3034]

Don't forget the fact that a fifth wheel plus truck is about 8' shorter than a similar floor plan travel trailer plus truck.

[@rabbi7933]

Do you have one? I’m considering one for my next trailer. How is it navigating through state parks and the such?

[@davealessandria3034]

@@rabbi7933 I've owned both in a similar length. The TT is more of a challenge to maneuver because the entire rig is so much longer but it's not insurmountable. It's also really nice to have the entire bed of your truck usable if you have kids and bikes and coolers and strollers etc etc etc. He said it well, if one was just better, they wouldn't make both.

[@rabbi7933]

@@davealessandria3034 just the wife and dog along with me. Bikes can go on the back of or in the trailer. My pickup does have the 6.5’ bed though. But I’ve seen sliding hitches for them. But not sure I would even need that.

[@davealessandria3034]

@@rabbi7933 some fifth wheels work fine with a 6.5' bed. It depends on the front profile and the kingpin. Don't believe anyone who says you MUST have a slider unless you have an 8' bed.

[@skunkbucket9408]

Another advantage of a 5th-wheel is that you can go to a full 90 degree jackknife while maneuvering if you need to. I've gotten my 33' 5th into places that I couldn't take my old 27' travel trailer using the same truck.

[@cindydegraaff5083]

Thanks for your honest comments!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I always try. Won't claim to always get it all right, but man I try!

[@rickoliver9162]

Well stated and hit the nail on the head - too many dealerships just want the sale and are worried about losing it.

[@rabbi7933]

I was being shown a floor plan I didn’t even care to see. “You’ll grow to like it”. 🙄

[@ragles87]

Another excellent video, and should be watched by anyone pulling a trailer! In the last 40 years, I've learned a lot. Just because a truck is a 3/4 ton doesn't mean it will pull a trailer well. Many other factors play into it. After driving Fords for 40 years, I switched to a Dodge, but that means nothing. My Dodge has a 5.7 Hemi but came with the complete factory towing package, most important was the rear end ratio. My Fords with the 4.8 Triton did an acceptable job, and pulled many miles, but seemed to be stressed doing it. Honestly, this Dodge does it easily. One of my fords had the 351 engine, and a GVW weight rating of 8600 pounds, but didn't do well (and rode like a lumber wagon). It is critical to get a good, honest dealer who will work with you to match the truck to the type of trailer you plan to pull, and then the trailer dealer to make sure you have it set up correctly to pull the best. My current set-up pulls so easily I hardly know it's back there, which is what you want. Having to much truck is far better than not having enough.

[@robertcolpitts4534]

His discussion of payload related to a half-ton pulling a 5th-wheel was a winner! Maybe you can pull it, but should you. I'm always amazed that truck makers put tow ratings on half ton trucks that will never work. The best a half-ton can realistically pull is less that 9000 pounds. Your tongue weight required to pull that alone takes up much of the available payload not to mention pushing the limits on the receiver hitch (1000 TW/10,000 Trailer Weight). Glad to see an ethical trailer dealer.

[@velvetsqueeze]

There's also the personal ability factor. Just because you have a truck that can pull a 37-foot RV doesn't mean you have the driving skill set to handle a 37-foot RV. Maybe you would be more comfortable (and safer) with a 29-foot RV. Just be real with yourself.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

omLurd that's the truth

[@vernonchristopher1379]

I just purchased a 5th wheel (23'8" long - no slide outs). I live in California. Thanks for the great info! For me, based on what I want to do, your info really helped! THANK YOU!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad it was helpful! Please consider offering us a quick review in return for our efforts at www.haylettautoandrv.com/review-us/ -- We'd certainly appreciate it!

[@celestepalm6949]

Thanks for clarifying, Josh. As a fulltime RVer who hates the idea of towing, I was seriously looking into truck campers for a long while, but had to admit even the largest didn't have enough space for me. With my F-550 dually, a smaller, used fiberglass 5th-wheel is an ideal set-up. I love Class As, but you can't park them in the city for those essential errand runs or having a day out on the town.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I know truck campers have some benefits. But man.. they’re a lot of money for no more than you get. And the truck you have to have to haul one is spendy as well

[@archygrey9093]

An advantage of a caravan is that its still pretty easy to tow with most other vehicles, for example if your truck breaks down and needs to be taken for repairs you can still usually have a freind or even a kind stranger move your caravan to a safe location for you.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Solid point too!

[@MrPAULONEAL]

Dodge Caravan?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@MrPAULONEAL No. He means "Travel Trailer" in American-English Often called Caravans across the pond or down under

[@fitnessforhealthandhappine1746]

My mother in law went from a fifth wheel to a travel trailer and has regretted it every day since. She misses the higher roof, overall better build quality, more storage... Once you go fifth, you don't want to go backwards. However, if you are starting out, a travel trailer is awesome and you will be so happy. Like he said, less cost, less wait, better resale, etc...

[@billdoerge6605]

I really appreciate your passion and desire to get the facts out there and take care of your customers. My wife and I will be buying our first family camper in a year or two (been camping with my parents since I was a kid) and I’ll be very tempted to make the drive to Michigan from Ohio to give you our business. Keep doing what you’re doing Josh.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad to have on you on our channel and would love the opportunity to also have you as a customer if the timing is right for you!

[@MowBeta]

Great job of setting safety ahead of the sale. As an experienced RV'er who's had those nail-biting experiences of creeping up a mountain pass with an underpowered vehicle or literally standing on my where's-my-breaks going down a slope into the red light of a small town, your points are well-presented. I definitely like more power than I'll ever need with an emphasis on more brakes than I'll ever imagine.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty. We try!

[@wmschooley1234]

Josh: Great posting! Totally agree with you. Form follows function. Philosophy of use is (or at least should be) a major factor is selecting between a travel trailer and a fifth wheel. Become fluent in tow vechile alphabet: GVWR, GCVWR, GAWR, FAWR, RAWR etc. Factor in things like weight distribution, carrying capacity, pin weight, safety margins etc. Then select a floor plan that's within your specs. For wife and I, it's a simple bumper pull travel trailer with a bed, a head and a mess rolling behind us. For others, the calculus is likely to be very different. Respectfully, WS

[@DanKuhn]

One thing I noticed for features that were important to me: you can't throw a rock in an RV lot without hitting a 5th wheel that has an auto leveling system. Whereas auto leveling travel trailers are pretty rare even in the high end. Coming from a pop up I did NOT want to level a camper.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think that’s mostly a cost vector

[@actionA06]

A half inch Dewalt impact gun solves that problem

[@donboulter3941]

Once again, you have proved why I watch your vides! I have towed from tent trailers to Fifth wheels over the years and as I am preparing to retire I want as much info about "trailers" as I can get for my Wife and I to enjoy our retirement. Even though I live in LA, I will consider the drive to your place when I plan to buy!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That is awesome! TY :)

[@jamesbecker3420]

I have towed them all(including slide-ons), nothing has towed better overall than an Airstream!! Pricey yes, but overall a great experience!! Good luck and travel safe!!

[@wendybenson5903]

Catching up on older videos and I have to thank you for explaining hitch weight verses payload! I finally understand it now! Whohooooo!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Awesome! I have another video coming at some point where I really break that down further

[@wendybenson5903]

@@JoshtheRVNerd yes! Perfect! I'm here to learn! Aaaand maybe to giggle at song and show throw backs 😂

[@cindydegraaff5083]

Weight, stairs, cost and the availability of 5th wheel floor plan in a trailer sent me in that direction.

[@balsumfractus]

I have had both, and agree with Josh's assessment 100%. Once underway, with a high quality hitch system, you may not notice any difference - although I did find the 5th wheel more affected by cross winds. Having a floor plan that works with your camping life style is probably more important......

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY for sharing this :)

[@kembrskaggs]

I just watch this video and I wanted to thank you so much for your honesty and upfront honest and not just being a dirty salesman I wish you were in my area so that I can buy from you thank you for being a decent human being

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Man I try thank you :)

[@machfive916]

So many great points in this video. However, the request to let Haylett "get to know you as a customer" is the key to getting the perfect setup. A brief conversation with a sales specialist will definitely get you into the right size and style trailer (or 5th wheel). I like that Haylett is low/no pressure dealership (I know this personally) and that they are only going to sell you what you can safely tow. Not many dealers are preaching about pickup truck payload capacities, which is often the limiting factor when towing before actual towing capacity. On a lighter note, at 5:02 into this video, Josh's "lifestyle of the rich & famous" impersonation is hilarious, as he sounds like the voice of Yacht Rock radio on Sirius. Lastly, on an even lighter note, who else took note of Josh's brilliant neon white t-shirt. LOL

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Champagne Wishes and Caviar Dreams!

[@rainneygirl]

We need an honest salesmen like you here down under!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I am fortunate to have both received good training and found a place that allows me to operate like this

[@Hayek321]

Not enough people think about payload rating, even with a TT. It's just ridiculous what people try to tow with. Great video

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

We see it every day. What's tough is when people have shopped around 3-4 places for their dream camper, then they meet us and we check closer into towing safety and find out it doesn't match up They're almost angry with us and don't believe us at first until you say "WHY would I tell you NOT to get this? I don't get paid if you don't get this. I'm sorry NOBODY else cared about your safety, but we do."

[@Tikitah]

DUDE! I cannot express how much I appreciate THIS information. Tons of thanks!

[@olemancharles4108]

You sir, are straight up and forward, which is rare today. Appreciate your honesty.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I guess that’s just how I was raised. I’ve always felt it if I bumped India at the grocery store then I don’t wanna duck down the dog food aisle while you’re buying a head of lettuce know what I mean LOL

[@AlanMuratet]

This guy is great. I might even travel across the country to shop at this dealership

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow! Ty Alan!

[@bikerunswimjb]

He's a son of a ....rv dealer. Born into the biz

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@bikerunswimjb Not born into actually. I'm a step-son. Started here 13 years ago. I'm Josh Winters -- not Josh Haylett ;)

[@tufelhunden5795]

Digging that eagle!!. Thank you for talking hitch and pin weight. Most dealers won't or can't discuss it. When buying my 5er the salesman and manager looked at're like I'd lost my mind when I asked about it. "You have a diesel 350 you can tow anything." No I can't there are trailers to heavy for my single rear wheel truck.

[@rmccabe117]

Appreciate the info. As soon as we moved from an SUV to 1/2 ton pick up, me and my wife were like "now show us the 1/2 ton 5th wheels"! Turns out, not really any out there that a good match for a 1/2 ton. Listening to you and seeing all the options is why we've been able to create a short list of 3-5 models with none of them being 5th wheels. We have learned a lot from you and with safety being on the forefront. Thanks!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Good for you folks. Don't compromise your safety.

[@whitetailhollowacres6917]

Hey Josh, I really enjoy your videos. I wouldn't say my wife and spend a ton of time on the road or camping. But we do have a fifth wheel. I can't ever see myself going back to a travel trailer. I will say that the fifth wheel we bought was older and affordable. It's the trade off one must think about. Thanks for this video.

[@JRsVsO]

I had to pick between 2 travel trailers a week ago and before I even went to the dealer I knew what I could tow that would be full yet 1,000 under my max tow weight and a 5th wheel never entered my mind. Thanks for your continual educational videos.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for sharing

[@ratdog3055]

Great info for a lot of new people. Saw too many times a 30 foot FW with a sign on it "Half ton towable)! You were the first dealer to make me aware of what a pin weight was. The other reason we went with a TT was no steps. My wife has a bad knee and we could see problems down the road. Thanks again.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It gets tricky sometimes when the NAME of the RV has the word "Half Ton" in it when the RV itself is clearly NOT reasonably ½ ton towable.

[@billleslie2251]

Liked this discussion. It's even difficult to find a 3/4 ton pickup which has enough cargo capacity to tow a 5th wheel. It's counterintuitive that diesels, because of the weight of the engine, have lower cargo capacity than a similarly equipped gas model. I need a toy hauler and those pretty much require a 1 ton truck. I'm glad I purchased a dually. May be overkill, but rock solid even in windy conditions.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You won't regret too much truck when towing You might regret not enough, though

[@johncroden6380]

Great info. Want to. Thank you, we have an 275RLS, your videos convinced us to buy one. After two years we still love it.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

AWESOME rig! Was always one of my favorites. They nailed it right from the start. If you haven't already, then would you mind sharing a review for us at www.haylettautoandrv.com/review-us/in return for the efforts?

[@SarahsAtticOfTreasures]

We would want the 5th wheel. We loved the one we had. Larger inside. We like to tow a 5Th Wheel. Yet, we will probably have to go with the Trailer. Cheaper and less weight.

[@misbehavenrheaven333]

This is the video I've been looking for....I've asked about this previously, but didn't know you've already made a video...I've been watching your videos for over 2 years and I'm just about ready to make a trip to Michigan to buy an RV or Fifth-Wheel from you...I wish there was someone closer that would be just as honest and knowledgeable as you!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Since I recorded this we've joined with Bish's RV and currently have 21 stores to assist you. We might be closer than you thought! Check our stores here: www.bishs.com/locations

[@misbehavenrheaven333]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Yes, but will you be working there? I need your honesty and expertise 😉 Longview, TX is 3.5 hours away...

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@misbehavenrheaven333 I spend the vast majority of my time in Coldwater, MI where i've long called home. Not being in sales myself I'm not able to assist clients directly in that capacity typically. This video-thing I do is a full-time job and then some. Maybe another way to say it is I don't personally work "in" our stores but rather _out_ of them?

[@chuckd5479]

This is great info. Everyone should watch this before they start shopping for a camper.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty Chuck! Feel free to share in your social groups :)

[@dishcleaner2]

Invaluable info. I'm trying to live in one of these full time and you made me realize I should get a fifth wheel.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad to help

[@loribeaumont5333]

Thank you for that video, Josh. I own a barbershop, which is in my home. Our various RVs throughout the years have been parked on our property and my customers see them. We pretty much buy a new RV every four years so they have seen us go from pop-ups to travel trailers, to motorhomes and back to travel trailers but never a fifth wheel. I get asked a lot about which I prefer and what the differences are, but had no answers for them as far as fifth wheels. Now I can refer them to your video! And I have also have some knowledge on how to answer that question. So thank you 😊

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you for directing some folks this way!

[@preacher1965]

What was said @8:09... has sold me on buying mine from this place within a year. I'll be coming from Pennsylvania and am truly looking for a Rockwood.

[@g.stephens03]

I got more usual info from this video than any dealer, that I have recently visited. Thank you!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad we could be of service. When the time comes all I ask is you consider giving her team a crack at working with you

[@stephencrandellsr4915]

Your exactly right get to know the customers needs and be sure they are safe🤠

[@geoben1810]

Excellent video! And very well presented, clear, concise and informative! There's more to it than meets the eye and different factors that must be considered when choosing between a trailer and a 5th wheel. Thanks Mr. Haylett. 👍

[@brownsbloomtenders]

Awesome content! So glad you are now adding hitch weight to the videos, AND repeatedly explaining the difference between load capacity vs towing ability!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You bet!

[@marlaplunk2833]

GREAT video. Content/info, and very entertaining personality. (the whiplash after the SOB with a PHD comment was gold)

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

lol Glad you liked it. Thx for watching. We have literally THOUSANDS more videos for you to enjoy as well :)

[@CryingIsntAnOption]

I have been shopping around for some time now. You Sir are my favorite host/seller. My goodness, who would have thought that an rv sales person would make you laugh 😃. I think after I have made my purchase, I will keep watching your videos. Count me as a subscriber.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Well thank you and welcome

[@rabbi7933]

**Opens bottle of wine** Let’s get to know each other.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It's not the wine so much as when you turned on the Careless Whisper that I got nervous

[@sgtbilkothe3rd]

@@JoshtheRVNerd lolz!

[@TheGramee]

Thanks bro...great video very knowledgeable and helpful. Going from a camper to a 5th wheel gmc dually. Much appreciated from Vancouver BC . We need dealers like you here!

[@lornegiven6890]

This is the best video iv ever seen. My wife sells trailers and is always asked these questions, I'm going to send her this video

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

LOL - not the first time we've helped educate other sellers :) Thanks for watching and sharing!

[@tedharvick9010]

Turning radius is generally less in a 5th wheel, due to being able to get under it while turning. You can still jackknife it. It just takes more to do it vs a bumper pull. But I'm a trailer guy. I like to be able to put stuff in my truck bed, or a topper on it. When it comes time, I'm definitely making the drive from OKC to see you, Sir.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It kind of depends on how the truck/hitch/FW interact, but I understand what you're saying. It's a good bit of info to share. TY

[@austinp1124]

In my opinion - If you’re in the market for either a fifth wheel or travel trailer, first things first is, what are you comfortable with towing? Does a 40’ fifth wheel make you anxious? Or any other size of fifth wheel? Then maybe a travel trailer is a perfect fit for comfortability factors...

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I would 100% agree. If you aren't comfortable with it, then you're never going to be happy using it.

[@robmathias9986]

Great video Josh. One thing rarely talked about is you have full access to your truck bed including the use of you bed cover with a travel trailer.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Great point! TY

[@johnblair2779]

Good info as always.. thankyou for being here .. your pops should be proud!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I'm a lucky man really. I have collected three great dads all of whom have taught me different and valuable lessons

[@arneservatius8686]

Been looking at the Benz and Italians pull behinds $220,000 euro’s. Just high quality birch/maple bright warm colors. Their just amazing for warmth and coziness American brands are like lockers or living in garages. We are 74 yrs and are also looking at vans.we are a long way from buying, just started looking. We go to Marshal to antique. You do a great job..

[@TheBandit7613]

Who sits inside their camper? We are always out doing things. Enjoying the mountains in the Jeep or fishing in the stream.

[@jasonvanoss2217]

Great information I have a one ton van so I went travel trailer and I only tow within a 250 mile radius anyway

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad it was helpful! Thx for watching :)

[@lindakettles4982]

One variable that may be less common is my situation. I've had 3 5th wheels, multiple truck campers and even a gooseneck horse trailer with LQ. But I want to go full-time now, and mainly boondock in remote areas. So I'm buying a small travel trailer (under 25ft) with great suspension, double axle, large freshwater tank and large CCC. Way less than my truck has capacity for, but practical for me in terms of height and maneuverability. As you say, there is no such thing as one type fits all!!

[@ricbrady]

Great Job in breaking down all of the issues!!! Entertaining and information, a winning combination. Thanks for your effort in producing these great videos!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty for taking the time to watch!

[@kiplambel4052]

I'm glad you mentioned the truck's actual payload, in relation to those "Half ton towable" 5th wheels! I have a 1960 lbs payload in my half ton, but probably couldn't deal with more than a 1300 lbs pin weight, or certainly not much more!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Safety BEFORE the Sale :)

[@ssu7653]

I find it funny how "half ton trucks" are nowhere close to "half ton" payload. Most modern "half ton" easily take a ton and cars with half ton payload are not considered trucks by anyone...

[@debbieslawnbusters]

You really are so awesome. Your family should be very proud of you and the great honest job you do. I WILL BUY FROM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WHEN I DECIDE TO UPGRADE SOON. YOUR A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you so much!

[@sylvainparent428]

Simple and effective explanations. Start with the beginning and you’ll risk less than making a bad choice.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻

[@Rochellemarieschwab]

This was a fantastic video. My husband and I are considering selling our home and going full time in our RV. We aren't retired so we would be working remotely. We are going back and forth regarding 5th wheel or TT. We've never owned either.

[@alphabetsoup7918]

Rochell: Don't know what vehicle you have, see my note above.

[@ajs96350]

5th wheel all the way. Much safer on the road. I hate large bumper pulls, they try to move you all over the road, and that's with a dually, I can't imagine how bad it is with a single rear wheel.

[@nephibahr7101]

We have owned both. A 32' travel trailer and now own a 42' 5th wheel. I would never go back to a bumper pull trailer. A 5th wheel feels so much bigger, is so much easier to tow, backs into tight spaces easier and literally takes about 2 minutes to hook up. Hooking up a travel trailer with the weight distribution bars and sway control easily takes 20 minutes.

[@KavioMiles]

Dude... I am so impressed. Amazing video. If I was closer you would have my business.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow, thanks!

[@Jean-qx4gl]

I agree! I like your style,presentation and honesty comes across..wish I was closer too

[@jah-jah87]

As a newbie it was really awesome to find someone who took the time to explain all the differences and even explain about marketing tactics used by sellers, lol. KZbin can be overwhelming some times... Im looking towards the "used" market and I find this very helpful. Thanks...

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad it was helpful! Remember to come home for dinner once you've got that appetite! :)

[@agentorange2554]

Hey Jah-Jah, check out their website. They do carry used models, you'll even see video's on them occasionally here. Be sure to subscribe.

[@anthonyvasquez486]

Im just another full timer stuck with a 97 xlt 4.0 ranger so the pickens are slim would like a 5th wheel scamp but not sure if the pu can do it, i have seen it being done, But not enough info like can it go uphill

[@lindacrawford5029]

Great way to explain the differences! Everyone RV’s differently

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Exactly! 🙌🏻

[@melissaurquidezvalle2559]

Great explanation. I delivered rvs for a couple of years. Yes, truck payload is key when it comes to fifth wheels.

[@droningharry]

My ideal tow would be an F-250 and a 28 to 30 Ft Rig to pull. Yeah we're big Ford people, always have been. In the meantime we have our 2014 Expedition and 24FT 2012 North Trail which we love. It's a great Mom and Pop Rig but not our "Forever Rig". That's a few years aways I think. We're towers, my wife has desire to pull one so I want a nice Trailer maybe like the Jayco. We actually liked the Cougar you showed off a couple weeks ago, that's an ideal Rig. Great Video. Josh, You Da Man!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY Harry! :)

[@Edlo101]

I really appreciate your honesty and If I decide to pull the trigger in one I would like to spend my hard earned money in a reputable and knowledgeable company. Keep up the great job brother!

[@patriciaelliott9524]

You helped me a lot on deciding whether I should get a trailer or fifth wheel. Now just looking to firm up that I should not have a class C RV. Right now I will probably not go with class C cause do not want to use it for 100% driving and do not want to maintain two engines/vehicles.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That's how I see them as well. Thx for watching :)

[@mikehood5705]

I have watched a buttload of RV videos.....you are one of the best and do an awesome job.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow, thank you!

[@natescott8632]

Great info!! Sometimes its a pain trying to find the right one to get. Being the 1st time rv owner hopefully more sooner then later. Leaning towards 5th wheel but I have seen some really nice travel trailers. It's becoming a headache lol

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I fully understand. Everywhere you turn there's someone else saying "THIS one's the best" then another person say "NO! THIS ONE is the BEST!" They're all great for different reasons. My goal is to help a viewer understand what makes each RV great and whether or not it's a good fit for you :)

[@TS-nj9lg]

Hey Josh, Mr Canuck here from the Canadian Great West. Thanks for your videos "eh". My wife and I have subscribed to your channel for a long time and appreciate your unvarnished, insightful approach to RV purchasing. I only wish we lived closer to your dealership. Keep up the great work. BTW, absolutely love the Jayco Eagle 2021 321 RSTS!!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for being an INTERNATIONAL member of the #RVNerdHerd :)

[@tinabrinson3385]

Josh I'll be calling. I'm in the same (can't decide) place as you describe in this video!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Operators are standing by! lol :)

[@Kiltabago]

Thank you for your honesty.

[@KellySimon]

This two-year old content is evergreen! Thank you! We’ve been searching for our next trailer and have just started considering fifth wheels instead of a fiberglass TT. This is very helpful information. Also, the dealer of our first trailer (2011 S&T no slide Zinger, bought in 2021) thought nothing of putting us in that trailer knowing we didn’t have an appropriate tow vehicle, and also failed to disclose some repaired damage that I know they knew about, because I later found the insurance paperwork tucked in the owners manual. Suffice it to say that we now have a much bigger budget and I know that sales person still works there, but we will build our own travel trailer from the wheels up before we go back to that dealership.

[@KellySimon]

I should say - we probably would have bought the trailer anyway if they disclosed the damage - though maybe not at that price. It has been a great rig to learn in and figure out what we really wanted in a camper. But specifically because they didn’t care about our safety, we’re much more selective about the dealerships we’ll consider. And fwiw, if we’d looked at the dealership’s Google reviews, we would have been forewarned. Now we know better.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad to lend a helping hand, Kelly! I have videos for things like "stick and tin" vs. laminated builds as well as things on how to avoid hidden dealer fees, how to calculate towing data, etc I have a "Learn about stuff" playlist you may find useful!

[@barbarakellycox594]

Hi Josh. Thank you for your honest information concerning travel trailer vs. fifth wheel investment and towing information. You really gave me a lot of good information and helped me understand the differences between the rv investment. Good job!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

My pleasure! :)

[@summerrider8373]

Thank you for the videos. I know for me I'm very much in the exploratory phase of the RV world, by that I mean I have not owned one before. I find you videos very informative and educational. It has given me a lot more knowledge of just what is out there. I will confess at this point if I even do decide to get into the RV world, I will be making a trip to your dealership.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for sharing!

[@davegrant4239]

Good stuff Josh, we use our truck bed far more often than we camp, so we are bumper pullers.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Makes sense!

[@mariaguilar930]

I know this video is 3 years old but it was still helpful. I've never owned an RV or TT but will be looking into renting each kind, at least a couple of times for weekend "getaways". My plan is to live in one FULL-TIME. I want something roomy and with enough space to work, since I work from home full-time. It'll be my son and I...and I want him to have some privacy. I just don't know what kind would be good to live in full-time. We do plan on getting away on some weekends, since we're 30 minutes from the beach and about 2 or 3 hours from RV Resorts near the river. Any suggestions and advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[@jimgeiger3749]

I have a bad back and I went with a fifth wheel mainly because the hitching . The hitch for the back of the truck and bar were just too heavy for me to lift and remove and install.