RV CONSTRUCTION COMPARISON Stick & Tin vs Laminated Builds

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Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV

Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV

3 жыл бұрын

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Stick And Tin Campers / Laminated Campers -- WHICH ONE IS BETTER?
It's a common question that doesn't have the clear-cut answer you might expect. In this video we deep-dive into the differences, benefits, and drawbacks of multiple types of RV construction to help you better understand what you're purchasing with your hard-earned money!
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@udmbfckx2916
@udmbfckx2916 10 ай бұрын
Finally a salesman educating the general public. If this dude is the owner (or one of) of the dealership then it’s worth a visit. I know there are other newer tech like the totally synthetic bonded honeycomb floors that will never get water damaged, etc but this is a primer.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 10 ай бұрын
I try! We have a bunch of videos like this
@jos9569
@jos9569 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is actually worth the time investment. Thanks for what you do.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Ty Jo!!
@brentmiranda9597
@brentmiranda9597 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of value you provide to your viewers is off the charts. If we were closer and in the market I would without a doubt shop your store and none other. I WISH there were other RV stores with your knowledge, expertise and humility. Please keep up the great work.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you Brent. This is always very welcome on a Monday :)
@theresad6990
@theresad6990 Жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video, but this was such great info. Thank you for all the time you spend on these videos Josh. They really are a huge help!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Please consider sharing this one in a camping group where you think it might be beneficial
@garymccarver5006
@garymccarver5006 Жыл бұрын
I've had both over the last 25 years. I'll never consider fiberglass again. Too many issues associated with them. Delamination, spider web cracking at stress points, losing the bond with the aluminum studs creating a wavy surface and yellowing over time, regardless of how much wax or UV Inhibitors you use. My campers are stored inside my shop, so they only see daylight when they're in use, and I've still experienced these problems with fiberglass. Once these problems begin, their value tanks and you you can't give one away because the fix is cost prohibitive unless you want to tackle it yourself, have the knowhow, tools and indoor space to do it. These issues are not as bad with shorter units because they don't flex as bad. But all RVs will still flex to some degree. But like he said, it all comes down to maintenance and inspecting seals. If you don't keep it sealed, it's not going to matter either way on either unit.
@jerrytalley802
@jerrytalley802 Жыл бұрын
I had a gut feeling and you and my sales guy agree, they can still delaminate. You mentioned cracks as well. One thing about aluminum, it lasts forever
@joyce7892
@joyce7892 Жыл бұрын
That doesn't sound good.
@jerrytalley802
@jerrytalley802 Жыл бұрын
@Gary, thanks for the honest feedback. I started with a gut feeling to stick with stick and tin. Then liked the looks and features of some fiberglass, weight, etc. Thankfully I have taken my time, watched a million reviews from Josh, and stumbled across your post that confirmed my suspicions. I have a 1967 Trailblazer, stick and tin. If someone didn’t put a house widow Ac in the back which rotted it, the whole trailer would still be nice. The rest of this trailer is still in great shape. I’m inclined to believe if you kept the stick and tin under a covered area, at a minimum all the aluminum would still be in tact, if kept under cover, no significant leaks, JMHO
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 Жыл бұрын
they use Azdel now ...not fiberglass ! , Azdel is far superior to fiberglass
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
@@northlander4370 I fear you have been terribly misinformed. That’s not how azdel is used Azdel is not a fiberglass replacement. It’s a lauan wood panel replacement below the fiberglass Sidewalls with azdel still have a fiberglass exterior. The azdel is swapped out for the wood paneling below the fiberglass or potentially on the inside wall of the rv “Azdel sided” rvs are a common misconception. They don’t have azdel siding
@russell1265
@russell1265 Жыл бұрын
Your knowledge makes it so hard for me to pick out a small full time camper Thera so many out there
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
There’s likely more than one that would work well for you so it can be tricky to boil down some of the finer points
@whosnext2005
@whosnext2005 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to let you know I really do think you do the best camper videos on KZbin.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Wow.. TY man. I appreciate the vote of confidence!
@machfive916
@machfive916 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for revisiting this topic on RV construction. This updated version is more in depth and even better and more informative.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for revisiting. I was looking back at some old topics and thought "Man.. those are HUGE topics to cover" and realized how much my presenstations and our channel had progressed since. It's kinda crazy seeing how much we've evolved since the original cut here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/faWQhKttp9RmjKM
@billcoulter1984
@billcoulter1984 Жыл бұрын
You’re the best Josh. This is an older video but provides great info for me now that I’m researching a new Rv.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Bill! :)
@Darkside_co
@Darkside_co 3 жыл бұрын
the RV whisperer... Very helpful videos. Just bought a Jayco slx 264bh.... Your videos are always my go to.
@mattpurcell3369
@mattpurcell3369 3 жыл бұрын
Your vids are so helpful...thank you. We were previously burned with a 'lemon' (Fleetwood Pioneer) that was a leak machine, so now we are 'buy-shy' for getting another. We seem to be priced out of the market for a Rockwood/Flagstaff, so I'll keep watching you stuff to gather information Thank You!!!
@dadpool3519
@dadpool3519 3 жыл бұрын
Just re-viewed this video again! Great info, Josh! Thanks. - Dan
@jimcollins8097
@jimcollins8097 3 жыл бұрын
When we ordered our Cherokee 264RL we had a choice and picked stick and tin due to delaminating concerns and ease of repair. Stored under cover, waxed 1 or 2 times a year, 12k miles in 8 years and looks almost new. An inexpensive trailer that has given us outstanding service.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
The black label edition doesn't change to aluminum framing and laminated walls by the way. It's still a stick built trailer. You're changing ONLY the skin.
@jimcollins8097
@jimcollins8097 3 жыл бұрын
Okey dokey.
@jimcollins8097
@jimcollins8097 3 жыл бұрын
Now you've got my curiosity up. Ours is officially a 2014 model but delivered to us 4/13. Any idea what we actually got back then?
@MrBklein31
@MrBklein31 3 жыл бұрын
Really great information! You have such a talent for making the information easy to understand. Thank you Uncle Josh!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just a simple midwestern boy who speaks in simple terms :)
@pogveteranar9415
@pogveteranar9415 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you so much for all the no cost RV training.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Tell my boss it’s no cost next time he pays me lol Actually don’t do that hahaha
@clintceholski2515
@clintceholski2515 2 жыл бұрын
Josh I appreciate your take on RVs and really appreciate the knowledge you share!
@HeathInHeath
@HeathInHeath 2 жыл бұрын
This is really a great primer on construction methods and benefits of the common types. Very helpful. Thanks.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Feel free to share among any sort of social media camping groups you may enjoy! :)
@jrambo7495
@jrambo7495 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for everything, Joshie!! You're great!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
There's only three people that have ever called me Joshie. I questioned the mental stability of all of them. You make number four and based on our banter back and forth I don't think that statement is in danger of becoming invalid any time soon
@imillionaires
@imillionaires 3 жыл бұрын
Great detailed description. Thanks Josh!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
TY! I'll keep brushing off some old footage and seeing what we can drum up
@craigmonteforte1478
@craigmonteforte1478 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice and Video i’ve owned many boats and Campers and as a general advice when freinds and family ask me for my Advice on either Purchase i tell them to purchase what they can afford and use the heck out of it to enjoy their large purchase as much as possible because often at some point in their ownership it may be some cost that is prohibitive of repairing the unit for use again things like a roof leak or needing a replacement of one if it’s insured will often have the Insurance Companies just totaling the Unit out and buying the Policy owner out of the Policy One Exception to the rule is Airstream built units that miraculously do hold their Value fairly well
@mejoe943
@mejoe943 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the info I've been seeking!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Glad we were able to provide then! If you haven't, then be sure to sub up to catch more videos like this in the future!
@tyflesh
@tyflesh 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the knowledge on this subject! I'm looking for a durable rv and this video helps a ton thanks again
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!!
@kevinfoley7704
@kevinfoley7704 2 жыл бұрын
That was a very helpful video. I really liked the explanation of the hybrids.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was useful for you!
@xracer2239
@xracer2239 3 жыл бұрын
Josh I definitely appreciate, and like your Videos. Keep up the Great work. Many questions I had were answered in this video alone.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@tlm7767
@tlm7767 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Very informative. Thank you. Wish you guys were here in Ontario, Canada.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Love your viewership. Very appreciated. Wish you guys were here in Southern Michigan LOL :)
@spreadthemessage51
@spreadthemessage51 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. All I want to do is stay on top of everything. Appreciate providing the maintenence info for all of us.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure :)
@cherylyoung440
@cherylyoung440 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I need the smooth one this time because I’ll be pulling it further and more often then I did when I had kids and a metal and wood camper. Your very helpful.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure Cheryl. Thank you :)
@simonwright9916
@simonwright9916 Жыл бұрын
That’s changed my search criteria considerably - thanks for the info!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Glad it helps!
@michaelscott8430
@michaelscott8430 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and person explaining tin vs fiberglass . Very good communicator ! I had no idea about the hybrid construction . Would like to see a Starcraft 145 with laminate . We are leaning that way even more.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@derekboonstra
@derekboonstra 3 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I've heard. Thanks very much.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Ty! We have plenty more videos you may enjoy as wel!
@williamquestmagic
@williamquestmagic 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video Josh and I learned a lot from it about the construction differences in RV types. Thank you very much. A must watch for really anyone looking to buy a RV these days. bill in Florida
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Hit that share button and spread the word :)
@lavernedofelmier6496
@lavernedofelmier6496 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos with RV wisdom. We live in the desert southwest with extreme temps reaching 123 at times. Have seen many laminated RV with what they call delam, large areas with bubbles and aren’t pleasant to look at. We have had 2 stick and tin with no issues and now have a motor home which is all aluminum roof and side walls with the end caps fiberglass.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@vap0rtranz
@vap0rtranz 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Checking your maintenance checklists now.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you!
@suziemyers9855
@suziemyers9855 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all the education I've gained by watching your videos. I'm off to look at my first TT (aka teeny-tiny) and am loaded with questions for them.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@edcarbone1663
@edcarbone1663 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review
@lilmouseygirl79
@lilmouseygirl79 3 жыл бұрын
Yay!! I am so glad YOU made this video because I've got questions and your going to probably answer some of them :)
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Let me know how we did after watching :)
@lilmouseygirl79
@lilmouseygirl79 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd hey Josh!! I sent an email to yall last night via the website. You answered 2 of biggest concerns at the beginning! How easy/affordable to repair and tow ability. It's a very well done video !!! ( It took a couple days before me and my husband had time to sit down together and watch it due to work and Thanksgiving aftermath haha)
@DaveSabol
@DaveSabol 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for referring this video to me. It's one of the best, if not THE best - and well articulated - responses to the traditional vs. laminated RV question that I've seen and you're doing the entire industry a favor sharing it. Thanks for sharing awesome content, being great at it, and by all appearances really enjoying what you do.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Ty Dave. I try!
@richardkoch8752
@richardkoch8752 3 жыл бұрын
One of your very best Vids ever Josh....Three Thumbs Up LoL!!! For every push there is a pull, for every give there is a take. You explained the benefits and the downs so very well. Thank you Josh for the honesty. Honesty and Haylett's go together like turkey and stuffing! Happy Thanksgiving!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it's three so you click the button, turn it back off, then turn it back on again LOL :)
@richardkoch8752
@richardkoch8752 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd anything for a cheap thrill....at my age Josh LoL
@shawnhouse7557
@shawnhouse7557 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome info!! Thank you!
@TheATeamriders
@TheATeamriders 2 жыл бұрын
We love your videos! If you get those upkeep guides up we would love to see what you have!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah apologies there. When we joined the ranks of Bish‘s RV our website changed and I no longer control our website. We have a lot of things in the works right now so it’s likely not something I’m going to be able to get the team to fulfill for me In the near future anyway
@christianlazar7025
@christianlazar7025 2 жыл бұрын
Everything you put out is fantastic. You've got a great camera personality as well. Look forward to all the future content
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you for that
@charlesrose7212
@charlesrose7212 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion. Thanks Josh! 😀
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure :)
@cindylcarrasco8889
@cindylcarrasco8889 3 жыл бұрын
Your right! Smooth side repair is not cheap and Delamination is NO cheap thing. I love a smooth side BUT bad divorce, lack of funds, so didn’t check my roof as it sat in storage...and a small leak developed and wasn’t discovered right away on a 2006 Outback and now I need a new roof, side wall repair, possible front wall and maybe even some flooring damage. Was just quoted 10-15,000.00 and I still owe on it! Moral to the story, regularly check for leaks and keep up on maintenance if at all possible, or keep it stored indoors. These videos are very informative and helpful. I’m a case of hindsight is 20/20 I say this as a warning to newer campers consider ongoing maintenance, when you buy new or used, it’s a big part of having an RV. And maybe don’t try to keep your RV in a divorce 😕
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh.. sorry a lot of that took place But ty for sharing your experience with everyone
@cindylcarrasco8889
@cindylcarrasco8889 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd your welcome and thank you 😊
@muzerhythm2242
@muzerhythm2242 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for the breakdown on the two builds! And I saved the link for upkeep guide.😁 I'm the type of person when I buy any electronics or expensive item FIRST thing I want to learn is maintaince. My stuff lives WAY past any warranty. 😁
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you, and thx for the visit :)
@loriw2661
@loriw2661 3 жыл бұрын
Just love this channel!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thx Lori!
@andrecornellier7716
@andrecornellier7716 3 жыл бұрын
Good information as always!
@ianberry5879
@ianberry5879 4 ай бұрын
Every camper dealer needs a Josh. Just found your videos as I'm searching for the best choice in trailers, moving up from full timing in an older motorhome, and quite impressed by the content. Subbed.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 ай бұрын
TY so much for joining! I have over 7,000 videos on this channel for you. Most are various walk-thru tours showing the ups and downs of each model but I also have hundreds of purely informative vids like this designed to help you "learn how to fish"
@ofontela
@ofontela Жыл бұрын
I'd say there is a spiritual aspect to this video. Good job, my friend.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Spiritual? How so?
@CopCat34
@CopCat34 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for spending the time to explain the difference. They aren't built better ... just built differently which about sums it up.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@JeffinTD
@JeffinTD Жыл бұрын
Super excellent video. Back in the early 90’s Kit Mfg had units with fiberglass over wood frame. RE Azdel, years ago you’d have heard people saying vacuum bonded and brand X adhesive solved delamination. It didn’t. Azdel I believe is an improvement, however, but I agree it didn’t end eventual deterioration of Rv’s. Foam core laminate is also more difficult to modify/retrofit. Hard points to add a ladder or grab rails/mobility assist in a bathroom, for example- generally a simple task on a stick/tin. Of the newer units that get dismantled for recycling and sent to land fill, often the main reason they couldn’t be fixed is delamination. Some don’t seem to show water intrusion, and I suspect years of sun on 110 degree days, winters below zero, high humidity, and flexing down the road takes its toll. That said, I do prefer smooth sides.
@arcticparatrooper11b2p
@arcticparatrooper11b2p 3 жыл бұрын
Another great comparison video. I just subbed.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Glad to have you here :)
@vikkibair1546
@vikkibair1546 2 жыл бұрын
Once again Great inf. Thanks bunches. Learn alot from you Josh
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to be of service Vikki!!
@jacobbeebe8259
@jacobbeebe8259 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. So informative and I learn so much by watching it. The part I really like is the straight forward approach about the good and bad on the units that you review. Thanks so much for what you do. It makes a difference!
@ratherbecamping809
@ratherbecamping809 Жыл бұрын
I was really thinking about how much easier the cleaning would be on a smooth sided camper. But Man I never thought about the surface area of tin! Thanks Josh for all the great info!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! #science!! lol
@tincansailor9437
@tincansailor9437 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! I was originally all about fiberglass until I started noticing delaminations on units I see on the road. That scares the heck out of me despite its many advantages.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Personal care maintenance and upkeep is truly the most important thing on any RV. And regardless of how the walls are built or what skin they have it’s always those seals said are the lowest common denominator. And every RV with any type of construction shares them
@johnwimer4891
@johnwimer4891 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video....very informative!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was beneficial for you. This comparison-type of video is SUPER time consuming, but it's such a common question I just don't see answered elsewhere frequently
@kathleenjettlund7617
@kathleenjettlund7617 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video, really appreciate this!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure, Kathleen! Imagine the work we'll do for you when get the the chance to meet you :)
@kathleenjettlund7617
@kathleenjettlund7617 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd I spoke with one of your sales reps and appreciated his honesty. I've got an RV on order from someone local and am sticking with that order. BUT...I will be ordering from your excellent online parts department which you should market better. And down the road when I'm ready for my next RV it will be from Haylett. At the end of the day buying local for my first RV was important because I can hop in the tow vehicle and drive to them when I have a question or a problem and that is important as a first-time owner.
@JV_214
@JV_214 2 жыл бұрын
Very educational video, I learned a lot! Good job
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Hope it helps!
@DavidHBurkart
@DavidHBurkart 3 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks Josh!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
You bet! I'll keep dusting off some old footage & seeing what I can come up with
@MrSpankysPub
@MrSpankysPub 2 жыл бұрын
We're good with having ordered a Rockwood Mini-Lite 2516S where we did, but had we known about you guys before ordering, we would have stopped in to see you. Great Vids!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless -- hope it treats you well and glad to have you hear among our channel :)
@dnicol73
@dnicol73 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help and information. Following up 👋
@stevenfoster5737
@stevenfoster5737 3 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@NewVisionLCS
@NewVisionLCS 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison Josh!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@NewVisionLCS
@NewVisionLCS 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd You're welcome!
@dominiccampbell1989
@dominiccampbell1989 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thank you
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again! More to come :) Going to make a regular diet of dusting off some of that good topical footage I created years ago before our channel grew so much
@martyb3783
@martyb3783 Жыл бұрын
Another great video full of great information.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@edwise8275
@edwise8275 3 жыл бұрын
Very good information thanks
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for liking!
@brendatrimble9528
@brendatrimble9528 2 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@susanjspaulding
@susanjspaulding 3 жыл бұрын
*Thanks for the FAB comparison video* !! *Learned more about Stick & Tin Vs Laminated Vs Hybrid construction* !! #HaylettRVRevewsNewsAndMore
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thx Susan!
@ewdavis77
@ewdavis77 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. After owning two stick-n-tin, I do think the fiberglass exterior is way easier to clean. Time will tell if we like it more...30+ year old stick-n-tin still look good when cared for!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
It's DEFINITELY easier to clean * Less Surface area to begin with * Less Nooks and Crannies for crud to hide
@patrobinson1873
@patrobinson1873 Жыл бұрын
Thanks this was very helpful
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@randomspirit
@randomspirit Жыл бұрын
Good informative video! Thank you!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@campnut6076
@campnut6076 3 жыл бұрын
In the mid 80's I worked several years as an RV tech. I got to tour the Pace Arrow Motorhome factory in Pennsylvania. They were fiberglass laminated with aluminum frame and luan on the interior. They had a demonstration set up for us with a sledgehammer to see if anyone could put it thru the lamination. Absolutely nobody could. Yes it dented the fiberglass but that's it. Very strong rigid construction. I think it looks better and is easier to maintain also. Thanks for the video.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's crazy -- never heard that before
@chomp54321
@chomp54321 3 жыл бұрын
It could be construed that since you are selling RVs with both types of construction, you are being "diplomatic" and don't want to piss off buyers of either kind of RVs. However, I do appreciate how you lay everything out, being honest with the pros and cons. You are absolutely right that everyone has their own priorities, and they should be able to choose armed with the knowledge you are sharing here. The advantages and disadvantages of wood vs metal roof trusses is something that I've never thought about. Love your videos. Please keep up the good work. Wishing you a belated Happy Thanksgiving.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
There's always someone that says something to that extent, but when I say things like "This one is Heavier and that one is more expensive" those are clearly *NOT* positive factors and just straight facts. Through the video I certainly share the benefits of each method of construction, but not JUST the benefits. Thx for watching and having an open midn.
@mikesh9639
@mikesh9639 3 жыл бұрын
another great bit of information!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful for you Also -- Don't be a stranger! Let us know what you like when you see it! :)
@rvail136
@rvail136 2 жыл бұрын
Josh, you're a salesman. What I appreciate you for is that you seem to be reasonably honest. I'll drive 1k miles to buy from you guys (even though ya'll sold out to Bish's) because I would rather buy from someone who will point out flaws as well as what makes a unit worth buying.
@tammy707
@tammy707 2 жыл бұрын
100% and ask for the famous RV Nerd
@robertburgess6100
@robertburgess6100 Жыл бұрын
Great video Josh.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jasonspellich2440
@jasonspellich2440 Жыл бұрын
That's why I'm leaning towards the wolf pups, stick and tin with the look of laminate.
@davesanders7893
@davesanders7893 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure. Always happy to educate in return for a fair shake at working with you when you're ready. Meanwhile -- enjoy the videos :)
@joyce7892
@joyce7892 Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of delamination in the fiberglass and I understand it is tricky and expensive to fix. As a single woman, I don't think if want to take the chance unless I were to get it new and keep up on the maintenance. This was awesome in being able to see the pluses and minuses of both. Thank you.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Joyce! Glad it was helpful :)
@bigoldal2436
@bigoldal2436 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Repairing floor in my 04 r vision now. They went crazy for lightweight using1/4 plywood with foam and something under then compressed them together. I see today's rvs use5/8 s plywood even on lightweight rvs for flooring. Old Holiday Ramblers didn't use corrugated aluminum. Personally hate rubber roofs 😀
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Those old R-Visions had some REALLY awesome qualities, but they were lighter than everyone else for a reason. A lot of people like to say things like "they don't built them like they used to" which is true -- RVs are thicker and heavier now than ever before. But.. along the way there have certainly been some growing pains. I bet that'll be a great rig once you're done touching it up!
@bigoldal2436
@bigoldal2436 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks. Love the layout of the r vision. Now that I've replace a roof with TPO and repair the floor I'll have a great trailer😀
@TheHockersmith
@TheHockersmith 3 жыл бұрын
Great information.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We have a lot more than just RV tours! :)
@mikemonroe5195
@mikemonroe5195 Жыл бұрын
Big fan of yours. Have owned both, I’ll stick with a stick and tin. Just wish I had a better way to keep the black streaks under control
@jamessmith989
@jamessmith989 Жыл бұрын
Valuable information. 👍
@kilpel2
@kilpel2 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative 👌
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
TY! Our goal is to make sure you know what you're getting when you visit here :)
@jerrytalley802
@jerrytalley802 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your honest feedback, which affirmed my suspicions. Thankfully I have an honest sales guy here that admitted even on brand new fiberglass campers of all of them can and on occasion de laminate. You also mentioned cracks, etc. I’m glad my gut told me to still avoid them. The stick and tin has worked for 75 plus years, proven by the fact they’re still around and can and are being restored in large numbers. I can promise that far in the future, the fiberglass ones will be in the landfill.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
I'm no afraid of laminated models but I'm a simple guy with simple needs and a stick and tin camper suits me just fine
@waynelarremore516
@waynelarremore516 3 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
TY Wayne! Dusting off and updating some older content right now. We have a LOT more to come (plus hundreds of RV Tours on the way over the next couple of months!)
@brotherheed00
@brotherheed00 3 жыл бұрын
Lol...we/I got hooked on the Azdale aspect along with one other feature that our first trailer has. Was completely blinded by many other features that turned out to be just as important. Lesson learned.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I get it. There's a lot get to excited about on these things
@tbamagic
@tbamagic 2 жыл бұрын
Josh- you really do an awesome job with these videos. I wish your place were in our area.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Where’s that? Never know if we might pop up closer to home some day 😉
@tbamagic
@tbamagic 2 жыл бұрын
Sonoma County, Ca
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@tbamagic So... I can't say anything officially since nothing is "done" yet but we MIGHT be popping up a lot closer to your doorstep in the future... just gonna leave that here and let it marinate
@chuckmckee2741
@chuckmckee2741 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best .because I believe you
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
While I welcome that vote of confidence I always encourage anyone to "Trust but Verify"
@dieseldrax
@dieseldrax Жыл бұрын
This video, while not very new, is great info without adding in personal bias. Indeed, proper care is absolutely the biggest factor in how long anything lasts and this is especially true with travel trailers. If you're buying new and keep up on proper inspections and maintenance then chances are you'll have a very positive experience and will have a trailer that shows this when you go to sell it. However, if you don't know what you're doing or you don't care about your equipment then it will definitely show when you go to sell it. This was the problem I ran into recently while looking for a used trailer, the laminated fiberglass trailers made it very easy to tell who cared for the trailer and who didn't. Finding a used, laminated trailer with zero delamination was nearly impossible and this was for trailers that were less than 10 years old. I'd been looking for something roughly 2015 or newer and they were either very faded or had one or more areas of delamination due to leaks. They claimed the leak(s) had been fixed, but by that point it's too late. The damage had been done. Now, I'm not saying leaks aren't a problem with stick&tin trailers. Any trailer will leak if not properly sealed/maintained, however if a stick&tin trailer has a leak it's much easier to repair and get back to new condition. I also see folks saying that aluminum lasts forever. While not wrong, that's skipping over the problems that aluminum trailers can have; Fatigue, especially in sub-par welds. Wood-framed trailers aren't without potential problems, but to suggest that aluminum-framed trailers will last forever and cannot develop problems is simply false. All else being equal, I'd take a laminated trailer over a stick&tin trailer if both were new or in like-new condition. I know myself and my maintenance routines would ensure the trailer would stay in very good condition. Used? All bets are off, and in fact it's purely due to the generally-poor/rough care that a lot of "nice" trailers have been subjected to that drove me to buy a used stick&tin trailer this time around, it was well cared for and was the layout we wanted. Previous trailer was laminated and while it never had a leak there was a very minor delam problem over one of the vertical frame pieces that caused a small bubble to form, possibly due to frame flex. Josh nailed it when he said one isn't better than the other, they're just different.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Ty so much!
@dam4274
@dam4274 3 жыл бұрын
Like the Wilderness for example, the front is smooth and round giving you the benefit aerodynamically of a smooth skin camper.
@demohub
@demohub 3 жыл бұрын
So insightful. Thank you for the video. And the verdict is ..... ???
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to provide! What "style" did you prefer?
@landerson1012
@landerson1012 3 жыл бұрын
Our first camper was a Mallard 27X....waxed it once....that was enough in the 5 years we had it. Weight doesn't seem to affect gas mileage much. We pulled the 7200 lb. Mallard at around 8 mpg. current camper is 10,000 lbs being pulled by a 3/4 ton and the mileage usually runs between 10 and 11 mpg....with a 6.4 hemi engine.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Those classic *true* Mallards were... heck.. ARE STILL such tanks!
@8machines62
@8machines62 3 жыл бұрын
Our JaycoJayFlight 24 ft is in the shop. We came through New Mexico with winds, and the siding came off!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
That's wild! I hope you were able to stay safe in those winds!
@mikepansini4904
@mikepansini4904 2 жыл бұрын
Good topic.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Ty. Hope it helps. We have a bunch more of these “info” videos for you to enjoy as well!
@christophermcmichael880
@christophermcmichael880 Жыл бұрын
Another way to look at it is. If it's your first camper and have no experience with towing Rv's or towing a trailer in general. Get a stick and tin unit for your first RV. Until you get the experience of getting used to trailer swing out around corners and maneuvering them around in tight spaces. A lot of new inexperienced RVer's may tend to be more accident prone and a stick and tin unit would be more cheaper and easier to fix if something happens, backing into a tree at a camp site, miss judging a corner and the rear of the trailer swings out and smacks something causing damage to the RV's rear blind corner.
@TJPhone-to7lb
@TJPhone-to7lb 2 жыл бұрын
Good Video.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 2 жыл бұрын
TY!
@philipgerry5228
@philipgerry5228 3 жыл бұрын
We are on our 2nd Jayco travel trailer, both have aluminum/fiberglass sides. I like that you explain things clearly. We seasonally camp by Warren Dunes State Park in Michigan. Will probably look you up in a few years for a Cougar 22MLS when we downsize to travel in State/National parks more often.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Man nice pick!!
@melodymakermark
@melodymakermark Жыл бұрын
That Cougar 22MLS is at the top of my want list currently. I’ve only been researching a short time, though, so something may knock it off, but that MLS seems perfect for me and the Mrs..
@bobbyb.6644
@bobbyb.6644 Жыл бұрын
No substitute for tender loving care ! 👍
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Жыл бұрын
Man that’s so true
@Chris.Donley
@Chris.Donley 3 жыл бұрын
Every potential RV buyer should be required to watch this video. Well Done... I have always considered "Molded Fiberglass" bumper pulls to be the best quality units on the market. But, with the Introduction of Azdel and Vacuumed Aluminum Frame side walls, they have probably surpassed that typical "Molded" quality. Now if these manufacturers can just implement dual side Azdel, full aluminum Roof Trusses, and anti-moisture man made subfloor materials like the Marine industry has implemented for years, we finally have a near Bulletproof Formula. Bringing over more of the UK/Australian modern design cues also wouldn't hurt. C'mon U.S. RV industry, your getting close!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Those advances are certainly possible now, but it's a matter of cost vectors. Nicer stuff demands a higher cost & market trends strongly support current build production My hope is as time rolls on more and more advances will work into at least SOME more mainstream brands to give buyers more options
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