Train Sim World 5 Class 390 Avanti Pendolino First Play WCML Review

[@AlexJames-s8x]

I remember being a kid on one of these and being thrilled at the train tilting around bends. I think this was the train which ignited my fear of derailing, and then the virgin trains pendolino crashed.

[@DadRail]

A horrific event that never should have happened, but worth noting the modern design features of the train were credited as one of the factors that saved many lifes

[@AlexJames-s8x]

Sorry mate, but at 18.46 what do you mean not doing another Knebworth 😅

[@DadRail]

⁠@@AlexJames-s8x Ahh the good old Knebworth reference, almost as iconic as “tea and biscuits with the manager” 😂

[@HandymanRomileyIsBetterThanBnQ]

If you know you know if you dont, just sit there oblivious ​@@AlexJames-s8x

[@TrainSimLondon]

I've travelled on the Pendalino quite a few times up North and I must say it does look pretty accurate. The lighting looks a bit off in the interior as it isn't as white in real life. Sounds are pretty good, overall a good route and can't wait to pick it up!

[@Thetrainexpertyouknow]

OMG this is amazing. A real train driver tests a train simulator. I like the way u talk and how u talk. Amazing video and definitely gonna subscribe!!🔥🔥🔥❤❤❤❤

[@zgov]

3:50 TASS stands for Tilt Authorisation and Speed Supervision

[@kswindlehurst]

Good tip I learned for stopping at Watford Junction in the 390 is as you pass the speed limit for 110 you pass the station Bushey if you move to brake step 2 as you enter the platform and hold it there you should get into the platform at a reasonable speed also I believe TASS is Tilt and Speed Supervision

[@DadRail]

Braking point noted thank you 😁

[@paulcurran2977]

It would be good one day to see our old stomping ground available, see how well I remember the braking points lol Paul

[@terryslaytor9249]

That must be Tornado train spotting he visits Watford from time to time 😎👍

[@richardelkin6109]

I have travelled on the 390's all the working life of the train as I am on the WCML I have even been in the cab of a pendolino when the sets were new well 2 or 3 years old!

[@tp175]

31:04 P-way says to the driver, "Beware there's a cant on the tracks". Driver says "Bloody hell, I'll have to get on the signaller about that!"

[@theblockybanana5537]

Trainspotters have been in the game since TSW2, just not in timetable service. Some were dotted about on the 1972 stock new journeys addon

[@theblockybanana5537]

In the scenarios for that route, sorry. One is at Picadilly circus from memory

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

11:19 kensal green dad. Kensal rise is on the other part of the overground which runs through willesden junction.

[@jonathaneley3651]

I was watching a video by Dovetail about the train/route and they said they couldn't get a east coast main line recording for the motors sounds ect, so they just carefully manipulated existing sounds they had for the Class 390 😊

[@jonathaneley3651]

West coast* I mean

[@SpeccyMan]

The abbreviation of et cetera is etc. and the punctuation isn't optional as it is an abbreviation.

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

12:08 imagine i just mentioned the suggestion of that route and then you go on to talk about it🤣 Hope they add it man, it makes sense! Otherwise why add the 377🤷🏽‍♂️

[@coffeeguy6673]

Crafty developers, on Steam the deluxe version is available to play now at 53 quid, standard version not available until September 17th at £35.

[@DadRail]

I believe with the Deluxe version you get the class 390, whereas the standard version is the route and the 350. Early access is just one of the perks, but there is more content included.

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

38:45 what branch of track is that coming from the left looking all cool and realistic?

[@thenortherntrainspotter7449]

Regarding your comment about you only sitting in standard, theres been a couple times before where ive shown the TM my staff pass and they send you to standard premium (or first if you're lucky 😉) just a tip! Great video!

[@nacktschneckel]

Once again a nice video! But track shadows sounds like a TSW5 feature, but as Matt showed us, this is only for new routes available. When using route hopping at Fulda the shorter rendering distance of the tracks were proudly shown as contrast to us on Kassel Würzburg. This fact is showing us the unlucky way the system was programmed. Having such a key parameter in each route based on the included track element although it is such a basic parameter which should be handled separately. Perhaps waiting for a sale on your prefered route is the best way to switch to the new version. Up to now there is so little improvements that even the free version will only cause a heavy download for a photomode v1.1 an improved map and route hopping, which is not relevant for me, playing only single rides each session. Just my point of view watching this and other previews.

[@TrewStudios21]

Sorry to say. WCML south in train sim classic is so much better: 350 has the TOC livery on. 390 has somewhat decent sounds (get the AP one) The full route

[@DadRail]

It’s a great route! I’ve streamed it before on the channel using the AP packs.

[@fokuz2025]

Fr

[@Robert.S459]

Sorry this is a large comment I was writing things down as they came to mind. Great video. Nice to see a couple of sparks coming off the panto as you left Euston. What are you running the game on, and what version of the game is it? The track does need some debris, works materials and removed track sections. It looks way too new. Also needs track workers here and there. Track shadows are good. Needs a lot more AI in general especially local traffic. I think the in cab bounce is from the drivers seat, the Azuma seat bounces around. Do trains have Air suspension seats like large trucks? There is a fair bit of rubber-banding going on, even when the AI left the Watford Junction. When the Pendo went through the tunnel coming towards you the whole train was lit up. When the 350 came though it was only lit by the 390 lights which is as it should be. The 390 sounds are a little off, but okay. I have a 390 in cab vid from Euston to Manchester and in the cab the track makes more noise than the transmission.

[@Keyaans_Photography]

18:45 what did you mean by not doing a knebworth?

[@BAGGIES6677]

Are Watford junction and Milton Keynes central the only 2 stops then? It's a shame if it doesn't at least stop at some of the intermediate stations.

[@DadRail]

The class 350 does the stopping services as well as the 710 and Bakerloo line trains on the south end of the route.

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

I dont get the secretness (not a word lol) around the 377, haven’t seen a second of video time on it, but its cant play much of part from whag im anticipating. I really hope they add watford - east Croydon as a dlc because theres plenty of layers and work already done that could make that route make sense

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

If the tilt was to be disabled, would your speed then have to be reduced going round certain bends?

[@SuperSuperAllons93]

Yes, you’d run to non-EPS speeds (110 instead of 125, for example)

[@athavanainkaran2499]

Nice

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

We know what the west, south & east coast is and also , so what route is considered to be the north coast?

[@datguy6101]

Get in

[@HandymanRomileyIsBetterThanBnQ]

It has the drone of a shed in the cab

[@joesphford7618]

I know that we can get the main game for free but I want to know how much is the 390 will be

[@Dan-pz2cw]

I’m sorry what? AWC service to Blackpool north??

[@enes5917]

i just bought the class 390 separately and it isn’t appearing for me when I go on the west coast main line, anyone know the fix for this or why it’s not showing ?

[@cauapro08]

Did you download it?

[@enes5917]

@@cauapro08 yes i was able to download it, usually when i download a game, its add-ons download automatically with it but with this one i had to go on manage add-ons and download it separately. bit weird but that’s how it was for me on my Xbox Series X.

[@jordanbazunu4674]

Any idea how I can get overground on TSW 5 it’s not showing up in the store I’ve alr got it from TSW 4

[@DadRail]

If you are on console your old content will not port over until the 17/09

[@jordanbazunu4674]

Ohh so I’ll be able to play the Watford dc line after the 17th

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

44:21 its because you said yes to giving up service, should have pressed no

[@animaltvi9515]

The west might be best. But the east is a beast

[@officialbpmyt]

Blue seating? I got on a 390 not long ago and the seating was all red 43:10

[@DadRail]

The red is the Ex Virgin trains branding. The blue is the refurbished Avanti seats.

[@officialbpmyt]

@@DadRailThanks for the reply and clearing that up! Love the video, excited to give it a go myself!

[@malachiandmicah]

Hello mate. Ik you will probably not respond but, I have just to TSW5 And logod on my Existing acount from TSW4. But, all my routs and Trains haven't Transferred over??? Do you know what I need to do

[@roblichfield8119]

I believe they will transfer over when the game official releases on the 17th, it's just your levelling up stats at the moment.

[@DadRail]

As Below I think they will come over on the 17th

[@malachiandmicah]

Hey mate sorry to be a pain again, But ofc TSW5 For None Deluxe players has came out today. Ofc all our routes come today, but mine still haven't came? I'm on Xbox X. Could u do a Turorial on how to get them on

[@DadRail]

@@malachiandmicah There have been some issue I believe with Microsoft store. See the below link forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/tsw5-xbox-compatible-content-update-17th-september.84884/

[@HandymanRomileyIsBetterThanBnQ]

Sounds more like a 319 than a 390

[@liverpooltrains]

why cant i spawn a train in in free roam

[@DadRail]

As long as you are playing on TSW 4 or 5 you can spawn a train using the tab key. What exactly isn’t working? Happy to help.

[@liverpooltrains]

@@DadRail its working now it just said my memory was out

[@tylercardy6644]

Looks like another version of TSW I’ll be skipping. Stutters still present all over the place.

[@mariiisssa]

Interior inaccurate, the carpet isnt ripping apart

[@davidtsw]

I'll check back again in late 2025. Maybe they'll figure out by then how to model objects around the train properly, so they don't change the level of detail when you're 100m from them.

[@DadRail]

Valid feedback, although I think it’s done like this to save on performance. TSW is already really performance heavy, so compromises have to be made to keep a half decent frame rate.

[@davidtsw]

@@DadRail For sure but let's be honest, this isn't the best looking game out there to start with. And it doesn't offer a massive, open world either. There's only so many objects that have to be rendered at once. They really need to optimize TSW better. I was hoping TSW 5 would finally get rid of these rendering issues but nope.

[@SimonWitt]

So a typical DTG route then. Underdone, not as long as it could/should have been, timetable lacking out of the box. The features that TSW 5 brings in are nice, but really there's nothing to justify a new iteration of TSW over TSW 4, it's basically the same game. Also not a fan of the new fad of releasing a route and a loco pack at the same time just to charge us twice. It looks nice enough, if a bit too 'clean', but I'll likely be just grabbing the free upgrade to TSW 5 (that is a decent thing DTG have done at least) and picking up the Preston-Carlisle route when it's released and I'll get the WCML & 390 in a future sale

[@DadRail]

That’s the good thing about the free update at least you’re not forced to pay for the game to get the newest DLC. Preston Carlisle should be brilliant if Blackpool Branches is anything to go by.

[@HandymanRomileyIsBetterThanBnQ]

Really disappointed with the sound

[@aviamonix]

No way dovetail have managed to release another scam I mean game

[@DadRail]

The base game is completely free. Same as with train sim classic. You only pay for the routes and trains if you want them.

[@crazzykilla]

@@DadRail only took them 5 games to get that right at last

[@aviamonix]

@@DadRail That's brilliant, Glad it's not another soleless duplicate :)